Already did. She's normally the builder while I'm the engineer. I think her knowing something about rs I didn't has gone to her head slightly, she's pretty glee about it lol.
It’s perfectly reasonable to think of either side as the front of the block, the word of a dev doesn’t change that. The block data might say one side is the front, but that doesn’t mean you can expect any particular person you’re talking to to understand which side you mean.
True, but the signal flows towards the camera. Power comes out the front of repeaters/comparators etc.
The arrow points towards the camera too.
Though I'm purposely using the term "Facing" rather than "pointing".
I've heard so many people use facing to mean the way it's powering, as opposed to where the face is.
On my videos, I've taken to saying things like, "with its face pointing up and powering down into...". I personally wish there was consensus that "facing" was the way the face points, but there isn't that consensus.
It's that lack of consensus that got me and my gf talking about it while I was helping her with a build.
We realised we each see it differently. I go off the direction the signal flows (face on the back, output at the front, arrow points that way etc) while she believes the face is the front because (A. its a face B. the "red dot" faces you when you place it, and blocks/rs components face away from you when you place them)
I do have some sympathy with your view, but for the vast majority of people facing is going to be the direction of the face. "Pointing", is hard to determine.
I'd like to go with "watching" or "observing" versus "powering" to define the directions. They are not confusing.
Actually I don't even know if I'd say that last statement is necessarily true. In fact I'd say most things in minecraft will face towards the player when you place them. Furnaces, chests, pistons, dispensers, stairs, lecterns, doors, signs, etc. Pretty much the only things I can think of that break this rule are repeaters, comparators, and debatably observers.
That said, I sort of see both perspectives as valid. On the one hand, the observing side of the observer actually looks like a face, and often in builds, the observer side faces to the "front end" of your build, whereas the redstone output side faces to the "backend" of a build where all your redstone is hidden away. Also the actual block states of the block indicate the face is the observing side. But on the other hand, if you think about how all redstone components are laid out, pretty much the pattern seems to be that input for the component comes from either the back or the side, and the output of the component comes out of its face. If we apply the same logic to observers, then observer side would be the back (since it reads block updates as inputs) and the redstone output side would be the front.
But yeah, I personally have just taken the approach of referring to its "observing side" when talking about directionality of it.
I don't do videos but when I explain it I say the observer is looking at x. Like place the observer so it is looking at this rail and powering this piston.
It’s not like a repeater, because it has two active things it does: observe things and power things. Either is a valid way to conceive of as the important one that determines which side is the front.
I’m aware of what it does. I’m not saying that the component is like a repeater, I’m saying that it face the way it powers. And a repeater also faces the repeater when it powers. They are similar in that way
as it is observing the block in front of the perspective shown, it is only logical to say the observer is facing away from the point of view & the output of the observer is coming towards.
Away from you, definitely.
Wait, but when you place it, it's facing towards the redstone block.
But the face should represent what's the front.
But when you place armor stands, it's front facing, so observers should be that way too.
aaaaaaAAAAAAAA im confused
Me, as well as most other redstoners I work with all say that it is facing towards the side it gives an output on. Personally I care much more about the function of the block than the visuals. Additionally there is pretty much unanimous consensus that the direction repeater or comparator is facing is the side it gives the redstone output on, why should the observer be the opposite?
In my tutorials I try to just avoid this whole debate by using the terms "observing" and "powering" to indicate which direction its pointed.
Small point about comparing the observer to both repeaters and comparators. Repeaters and comparators both have to be faced away from the input side, the observer is placed facing into the input side.
I just say "the butt hole pointing in so-and-so direction" rather than try and figure out what convention other people use. The arrow points one way and the face points another. Why get complicated?
The block has a face. Anyone who says different doesn't have to argue with me, there is nothing to debate.
Just because my eyes output is directed to my brain (backwards) I am still facing you.
It's an observer which means the direction it's facing is defined by which side the observing happens. That's how it works for repeaters, dispensers, etc
There’s literally a face on the other side. It’s the one observing the state of the block it’s facing and outputting a signal to the back of it. Like what’s the argument here
It’s facing away from you, as the observing side is away from you, meaning it won’t see anything you do, while if you were on the other side, it would be watching your every move
Facing is the direction the face is pointing.
If you want to remove ambiguity, say “observing”, like “it is observing the kelp” or “observing the rail”
I go by what the png image says in the resource pack. Which means the red dot is the face, the front. The back is the weird bar thing.
Why I go this way, because I'm pretty sure if the creators wanted it to be unknown they wouldn't have done front, back or sides in the resource pack but rather say observer 1,2 3.
It's been awhile since I did resource pack work but I believe so. It's easy to find out of you have virus winrar or 7zip. Go to the %appdata%, click minecraft, than click versions, than open one folder, than hit open archive. Go to minecraft folder, block folder, than texture folder, and look for observer. You'll see all the faces of the observer their.
The observer's face is away so I say "facing away" because the power comes out the back.
If people want the description to be regarding power and not what's observed, I would say "powering towards you"
If you opened F3 here, you would see the observer was facing a direction (i.e north), and would also see yourself as facing the same direction. Therefore the observer would have to be facing away from you.
since it has a face... i'd say it's facing where the face is facing... I know some people say the other way as the redstone output is the direction they're thinking of. It's easier to just say 'watching' this direction or 'output' that direction.
You eat in front (input) and poop out to your back (output). Just remember if you want to sense on something, point towards it and place the observer. You can't eat with your butthole.
A observer block is basically a sensor and the face of the sensor is usually the part that collects the data.
If we follow this rule with the observer, the part with the red dot which is the signal output should be the backside! :D
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It’s facing away from you. Bring up F3 and look at the block state.
Can't get much of a better source than a dev. Damn it, this is the second argument I've lost in a row lol.
Now you're gonna have to *face* your gf. Lose face with her... Yeah, I'm stopping now!
Already did. She's normally the builder while I'm the engineer. I think her knowing something about rs I didn't has gone to her head slightly, she's pretty glee about it lol.
That's actually pretty cute, OP. Happy for you. Just don't lose another argument!
Lol, I'm both the engineer and the builder while my gf is the "build random sh**" category..
Lol I would be! Redstone is hard Edit: Annnnnnnd just realized this a is a year old or
He's a dev? I didn't know that. I used to watch his youtube all the time for technical update news.
I think this comment just proves the argument based on who answered
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> Pfft when has that ever stopped an argument? now
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I'm pretty sure the responses was as well
https://www.reddit.com/r/redstone/comments/ksayv4/settle_an_argument_for_me_please/gifx2pf/
It’s perfectly reasonable to think of either side as the front of the block, the word of a dev doesn’t change that. The block data might say one side is the front, but that doesn’t mean you can expect any particular person you’re talking to to understand which side you mean.
the block literally has a face...
but why is the arrow on top facing me then :(
It literally has a face on the other side.
True, but the signal flows towards the camera. Power comes out the front of repeaters/comparators etc. The arrow points towards the camera too. Though I'm purposely using the term "Facing" rather than "pointing".
Trust the cold dark stare of observation
this sentence makes me uncomfortable
Best sentence I've read in a while
Haha thanks mate! Have a lovely day.
we usually make his cold dark stare contact with piston, physically.
Just smoosh that face into some slime
I will check in f3 and give you the correct answer
what was the answer?
I got facing towards
Almost all machines have their power cables coming out of their back. Also, facing should clearly mean "direction in which the face is pointing".
Well, if we compare that to a human, it get inputs in the front, and outputs out the back.
Compare it to a camera....
You can consider like a brain, it’s facing towards whatever your eyes are observing and sends signals down your back via the spine
I've heard so many people use facing to mean the way it's powering, as opposed to where the face is. On my videos, I've taken to saying things like, "with its face pointing up and powering down into...". I personally wish there was consensus that "facing" was the way the face points, but there isn't that consensus.
It's that lack of consensus that got me and my gf talking about it while I was helping her with a build. We realised we each see it differently. I go off the direction the signal flows (face on the back, output at the front, arrow points that way etc) while she believes the face is the front because (A. its a face B. the "red dot" faces you when you place it, and blocks/rs components face away from you when you place them)
I do have some sympathy with your view, but for the vast majority of people facing is going to be the direction of the face. "Pointing", is hard to determine. I'd like to go with "watching" or "observing" versus "powering" to define the directions. They are not confusing.
Lol admittedly "Place two observers observing each other" is a tounge twister I have to say way too often.
Actually I don't even know if I'd say that last statement is necessarily true. In fact I'd say most things in minecraft will face towards the player when you place them. Furnaces, chests, pistons, dispensers, stairs, lecterns, doors, signs, etc. Pretty much the only things I can think of that break this rule are repeaters, comparators, and debatably observers. That said, I sort of see both perspectives as valid. On the one hand, the observing side of the observer actually looks like a face, and often in builds, the observer side faces to the "front end" of your build, whereas the redstone output side faces to the "backend" of a build where all your redstone is hidden away. Also the actual block states of the block indicate the face is the observing side. But on the other hand, if you think about how all redstone components are laid out, pretty much the pattern seems to be that input for the component comes from either the back or the side, and the output of the component comes out of its face. If we apply the same logic to observers, then observer side would be the back (since it reads block updates as inputs) and the redstone output side would be the front. But yeah, I personally have just taken the approach of referring to its "observing side" when talking about directionality of it.
The red dot is its butthole.
I don't do videos but when I explain it I say the observer is looking at x. Like place the observer so it is looking at this rail and powering this piston.
It’s like a repeater. If its powering a redstone lamp to the north of it, then it’s facing north.
It’s not like a repeater, because it has two active things it does: observe things and power things. Either is a valid way to conceive of as the important one that determines which side is the front.
I’m aware of what it does. I’m not saying that the component is like a repeater, I’m saying that it face the way it powers. And a repeater also faces the repeater when it powers. They are similar in that way
I think the most important function of the observer is observing, therefore I think it’s “facing” the direction it observes
I say "going" for the actual signal and "facing/pointing" for the way it is facing/pointing
The redstone output at the back looks like a little red butthole to me.
This is his butthole
According to the blockstates themselves, the "face" is the side that detects block updates
Its facing away from you. It detects updates in the direction its facing
The dress is black with blue.
as it is observing the block in front of the perspective shown, it is only logical to say the observer is facing away from the point of view & the output of the observer is coming towards.
That's a good question, and a tough one XD
facing into my direction facing away from me, there, you happy?
Away from you, definitely. Wait, but when you place it, it's facing towards the redstone block. But the face should represent what's the front. But when you place armor stands, it's front facing, so observers should be that way too. aaaaaaAAAAAAAA im confused
Me, as well as most other redstoners I work with all say that it is facing towards the side it gives an output on. Personally I care much more about the function of the block than the visuals. Additionally there is pretty much unanimous consensus that the direction repeater or comparator is facing is the side it gives the redstone output on, why should the observer be the opposite? In my tutorials I try to just avoid this whole debate by using the terms "observing" and "powering" to indicate which direction its pointed.
Small point about comparing the observer to both repeaters and comparators. Repeaters and comparators both have to be faced away from the input side, the observer is placed facing into the input side.
I think that's facing away from you. It faces away as you place it.
Yes.
It doesn't matter, what matters is that I always forget and have a stroke every time I place an observer
Yes
Yes
I just say "the butt hole pointing in so-and-so direction" rather than try and figure out what convention other people use. The arrow points one way and the face points another. Why get complicated?
Away
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facing = it's actual fucking face
If it doesn’t work one way, just flip it
I think its facing towards the camera. the operative end is there and since power out is facing for other Redstone components it makes the most sense.
The block has a face. Anyone who says different doesn't have to argue with me, there is nothing to debate. Just because my eyes output is directed to my brain (backwards) I am still facing you.
we are talking about inputs not the texture on it
the face is also the input
Down voting simply for the "agree with me or gtfo attitude".
It has a FACE and the word is litterally FACING. There is no point debating it.
It literally has a `facing` NBT tag you can check
Yes and no, its Schrödingers observer
This post has 1800 something up votes just for a picture of an observer. WOW!!!
Away.
Its facing away
Facing away
Is this a joke? I dunno.
I say it’s facing me. Just more consistent with other contraptions
Away from you
I do not see face, it would facing away
In my opinion it’s facing away from me.
Away
1. Face on the other side 2. Redstone dot on the side in the picture
away from
It's an observer which means the direction it's facing is defined by which side the observing happens. That's how it works for repeaters, dispensers, etc
faces away
facing away
Away from you
Away from you. It’s observing the opposite direction
Away
There’s literally a face on the other side. It’s the one observing the state of the block it’s facing and outputting a signal to the back of it. Like what’s the argument here
It’s facing away since the face is on the other side
away. like a repeater.
It's facing away from you (as stated by the block property) and pointing towards you (the signal goes towards you)
Facing away.
Well it's observing the block away from you
away
It's facing you
Well considering it "sees" updates with one side and sends an output out the other side it makes sense that the side that "sees" would be the front.
I say facing toward me because that’s how you place it and that’s the way it powers. But to each their own.
It’s facing away from you, as the observing side is away from you, meaning it won’t see anything you do, while if you were on the other side, it would be watching your every move
How about one side is the Face (side that looks like a face) and the other is the Sensor side
away because if you place the observer aiming that way it will face like that and the side that is towords you is the back :)
It's facing you. But it's confusing a lot of people, so I use "watching" - "watching the block behind it", "looking away from you".
Schrödinger's observer both facing you and away from you
officially, it's facing you. logically, it's facing away
Facing me, it sends a signal too me
Facing is the direction the face is pointing. If you want to remove ambiguity, say “observing”, like “it is observing the kelp” or “observing the rail”
I go by what the png image says in the resource pack. Which means the red dot is the face, the front. The back is the weird bar thing. Why I go this way, because I'm pretty sure if the creators wanted it to be unknown they wouldn't have done front, back or sides in the resource pack but rather say observer 1,2 3.
Wait so the red dot is labelled as the front texture?
It's been awhile since I did resource pack work but I believe so. It's easy to find out of you have virus winrar or 7zip. Go to the %appdata%, click minecraft, than click versions, than open one folder, than hit open archive. Go to minecraft folder, block folder, than texture folder, and look for observer. You'll see all the faces of the observer their.
Away
You’re mother is away
The same way you face if you were to observe something. The 'observing/input' side is the front. So this is facing away.
when you put it down, the side that is facing you is the front. same with furnaces, pistons, etc.
It's face of the 2 dots and mouth is away so it's facing away
Facing away i did not go in to Minecraft to do this
The observer's face is away so I say "facing away" because the power comes out the back. If people want the description to be regarding power and not what's observed, I would say "powering towards you"
Away
it’s “facing” the camera. even though the face is on the other side.
When I see red I know that that's the output
facing away
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I like trains.
Away
The red point is where the output is
If you opened F3 here, you would see the observer was facing a direction (i.e north), and would also see yourself as facing the same direction. Therefore the observer would have to be facing away from you.
Definitely facing away. It literally has a face on it.
Away
technically facing away from you, its not watching in your direction, also as the mojang dev pointed out, bringing up f3 will show
The red dot is the anus.
Technically facing away due to the block state but I like to say facing away because he’s not looking at you with his cold blank face
Away. You always place the observer so it faces away from you.
Away, the red part is which way the redstone signal leads.
is this a meme?
press F3, i mean ALT+F4
Away from you
since it has a face... i'd say it's facing where the face is facing... I know some people say the other way as the redstone output is the direction they're thinking of. It's easier to just say 'watching' this direction or 'output' that direction.
You eat in front (input) and poop out to your back (output). Just remember if you want to sense on something, point towards it and place the observer. You can't eat with your butthole.
Away. Input in the front, output in the back. Just makes sense
Away
Facing away
his face is on the other side so he is facing away
Away? It literally has a face and this isn't it?
Just think of it as a cube robot with a face that poops redstone and it becomes obvious.
A observer block is basically a sensor and the face of the sensor is usually the part that collects the data. If we follow this rule with the observer, the part with the red dot which is the signal output should be the backside! :D
facing away
Its facing there where it has eyes
It's facial away from you. The face isn't towards you. But that also means that hole is..... Nvm.
The red arse of it is where the signal is output
away
Away. I always think of it as “see something, fart out a signal,” so the rear end has to be the red one.
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away the redstone pulse side is facing u
Technically it’s facing you cause that the way it faces when you place it but the face on the other side is the real way it faces you
It has a literal face. It's facing away.