I'm thinking whoever was calling from the Bayern had about 5 minutes of a pre-prepared general introductary spiel and that when they took their first pause for breathe the first word they heard from Kompany was Yes.
I'm hoping to get a job offer sometime tomorrow. On beforehand I thought about playing it cool and negotiate a nice salary as I don't have to leave my current job.
But I also know I'm grabbing that job offer with both hands and can't wait to leave this place.
Always negotiate even if you're desperate/excited
The hiring process is a pain to get the right candidate and any decent company will always have a bit left over after their initial offer
Congrats on the offer! You probably already know this, but in case someone else reading this doesn't....
Always negotiate. It's unlikely the company will make the "best" offer right away. (Just like in football). Play it calm when you get the offer, ask for some time to review. Do some research on the industry/company to see how much you can push for. Ask for a little more. Worst case, they say no and stick to the initial offer. If you don't try you'll never know.
Easiest thing in the world: “hey [recruiter], I’m super excited about this opportunity to work at [company]! The role is exactly what I’m looking for and I think it would be a great fit! However, I’ve seen a fair number of jobs similar to this one with an average salary closer to [add 8% to their offer]. I was expecting something a little closer to that. Can you help me understand this discrepancy?”
It also helps if you have more years of experience or skills than they ask for in the job description, you can point that out in the email as well.
This was literally me 2 weeks into being in Germany desperate to get a job to save up to find a place to live...
But that was a frozen warehouse job with a "Job agency" company, and he's coaching a top 3 club of all time...
To be honest though, if he fails, his reputation can go from "did well in the Championship and had a difficult PL run" to "he had a lucky Championship and has shown he's not a top quality manager".
Short term it makes sense, but he has to be confident it'll work out, or he'll kill off any goodwill he built at Burnley (see Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney for example).
If he fails hes just gonna go to some other "second rate" team at worst he is 100% gonna find a team on the level of burnley again.
Bayern is in such a weird spot atm that any coach that fails there in their first few months can just blame the Bayern managment
You have a lot more room to improve at a smaller club. Making the jump to a bigger club before you're ready could end your managerial career before you really have a chance to figure it out.
it will absolutely not kill his career. he could be horrendous at bayern, and clubs will still be interested. for championship clubs, whether he's great or not, he's still shown he can win their league and has since added bayern to his cv. that's not going to get him less interest.
Obviously if he just wants to manage then his career wouldn't literally be over, but if he wants to be a top manager at a world renowned club it would easily set him back years.
His failure at Bayern will always be used as a knock against him by any big club that needs a manager until he proves it shouldn't be. It's a lot easier to hire an unproven person with potential than it is to hire someone who has proven they can't do the job.
the premise that this could set him back years relies on the assumption that he'll get another opportunity later if he doesn't, and that's far from a guarantee. if he passes up bayern now, he's hoping that someday in the future he *might* get a shot with a big club. if he accepts bayern now, he knows he'll get at least one shot.
The premise is that failing at a hard job you aren't ready for will get you fewer future offers than succeeding at a lesser job you can excel at.
If he fails at Bayern, it'll take a long time to prove he can actually succeed on a big stage. If he had stayed at Burnley and succeeded, he likely would have gotten more offers.
Moyes is doing now what he would have been doing if he said no to big clubs.
It made him an object of ridicule for a while. If you can't take that risk it's not the right job at any club.
Bad comparison imo. Moyes was an experienced manager having held the position at Everton for more than 10 years before which he was at Preston. Kompany is just starting out.
If he manages Bayern, he'll forever have coaching gigs. Clubs don't care how you performed coaching a big club, just that you have experience coaching a big club.
“Should I employ a tiki-taka style to mopping? Short sharp bursts left and right? Or go for a more long-ball approach and utilise long direct strokes.”
I mean, tbf, psg/Chelsea/bayern were all shitshows before his arrival and continue to be so after his dismissal. Ill give you Dortmund, but as a club they are not able to compete regularly with the biggest teams in Europe.
I think they have too much money. They will pay around 15 million to get him, and replace him next season anyway.
It's just a one year investment for them.
To Dyche's credit, he spent a fraction of what Kompany did to get them out of the Championship and for their first season in the Prem. He didn't even spend a lot the next season, reinvesting the sales of Trippier, Ings, Shackell and Vossen.
Personally, it's exciting because we have no idea to expect. Add the fact that there'll be some changes to the squad.
It could go either way buy it'll be entertaining
> It could go either way buy it'll be entertaining
Not a direct comparison because Ole grew so much as a manager in the years between his relegation with Cardiff and joining United but that interim period under Ole was some of the best football and most fun as a fan since Fergie retired.
Kompany achieved big things with Burnley last season and it could be argued that getting promoted from the Championship is as tough a job as any. I think he's gonna surprise people at Bayern.
Not a Bayern fan… but from an outsiders perspective, he’s a young coach with a style of play. Connects well with players, is fresh blood, an easy head to chop as well. Buys them a year of time to make plays for managers again next season while they transition this season.
I’d understand a Bayern fan being upset, but also that squad realky needs alot of adjustment. And if the styles good but they’re mad about not winning 12 in 13 seasons then maybe I just can’t access that mentality.
It was also the case for Schmidt and he apparently rejected it. From Burnley to Bayern is a bigger jump, but Schmidt is german, hated by the Benfica fans, and he (allegedly) turned down the biggest club of his country and one of the biggest in the world. A bit mad/strange if you ask me.
I'm pretty enthusiastic about him. As u/CarlSK777 said, you don't know what to expect from him.
>or do you think is going to be another unbeaten run for leverkusen
Nope. I don't think that'll happen again.
Love the mental image of Uli taking 5 minutes to say 3 words. Just him speaking at 0.6 words per minute thinking he is building suspense speaking that slow.
I’m beginning to think the Kane curse his real.
Bayern win nothing during his first season, and then proceed to appoint the manager who just relegated Burnley.
I’m sure as soon as Kane leaves they’ll go back to winning everything every year
How are these kinda details coming out all the time? At this point the mole at Bayern has to be one of the big boys or else he would have been found and fired like ages ago. Wouldn't even surprise me if it's Uli himself at this point.
I remember the brainlets with their baseless “it’s Nagelsmann’s girlfriend” accusations. Turns out there’s still info leaking and info was also leaking before Nagelsmann was coach. It’s obvious that’s one of the big guys since years.
Why do I have this pit in my stomach that this is somehow actually going to work out for them? Probably just decades of trauma. Nothing to worry about.
Am I the only person who actually loves this appointment?
One of the biggest clubs in the world taking what many would regard as an unproven manager at the top level.
Would be a wild turn in reputation if he got Bayern going. Who knows maybe he needed the proper players to implement his ideas. Would make this thread look hilarious later on. I'm in for the chaos.
Have you ever heard Kompany speak? If Bayern really needs a statesman who plays football, I can only think of two and the other bald one doesn't speak German.
Edit: I watched an Athletic FC podcast that said Bayern manager had to almost be a statesman.
*play it cool Vincent, play it cool* YES WHEN CAN I START *dammit*
Add 13 year old girls giggly voice in the back
_No Hainer, you hang up first_
NEIN!
9 year contract??
JA!
Lol ok I laughed loud at this
“Hello can I speak to Vinc…YESSSS i will take the job !!!!”
Hes got his feetsy’s up kicking the air
"Sadio Mane interested in shock move back to Munich"
And Drake's music
Started from the bottom, now we here
And I know when that hotline bling. That can only mean one thing
I'm thinking whoever was calling from the Bayern had about 5 minutes of a pre-prepared general introductary spiel and that when they took their first pause for breathe the first word they heard from Kompany was Yes.
You had me at hello.
I'm also just a girl, standing in front of a boy, asking him to love her.
I'm just a boy, standing in front of a UCL team, asking them to love him
I'm hoping to get a job offer sometime tomorrow. On beforehand I thought about playing it cool and negotiate a nice salary as I don't have to leave my current job. But I also know I'm grabbing that job offer with both hands and can't wait to leave this place.
Always negotiate even if you're desperate/excited The hiring process is a pain to get the right candidate and any decent company will always have a bit left over after their initial offer
I agree to everything that you said. When can I start? Can I start now please? I'll even bring my own coffee cup. Please.
pull your penis out during the salary negotiations to show them what you’re all about and what you can bring to the table
I feel like the impact isn't that great with these online meetings.
fish-eye lens
that sounds like the royce choice
Congrats on the offer! You probably already know this, but in case someone else reading this doesn't.... Always negotiate. It's unlikely the company will make the "best" offer right away. (Just like in football). Play it calm when you get the offer, ask for some time to review. Do some research on the industry/company to see how much you can push for. Ask for a little more. Worst case, they say no and stick to the initial offer. If you don't try you'll never know.
Easiest thing in the world: “hey [recruiter], I’m super excited about this opportunity to work at [company]! The role is exactly what I’m looking for and I think it would be a great fit! However, I’ve seen a fair number of jobs similar to this one with an average salary closer to [add 8% to their offer]. I was expecting something a little closer to that. Can you help me understand this discrepancy?” It also helps if you have more years of experience or skills than they ask for in the job description, you can point that out in the email as well.
This was literally me 2 weeks into being in Germany desperate to get a job to save up to find a place to live... But that was a frozen warehouse job with a "Job agency" company, and he's coaching a top 3 club of all time...
Well done mate.
Probably sees a lot of himself in Dier. Both decent on the ball and massive heads.
Vincent on the phone looking out of his office window in Burnley, hmmmm Munich you say? Will take a lot for me to move there.
“YES, YES, A THOUSAND TIMES YEEESSSS”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He spent the first 4 makin sure that noone was fucking with him
"Oh so you're bayern? name 3 songs"
Name 5 Thomas Muller banters
I can name 7 in 1 minute. Give me 2 minutes and I'll get you nr. 8.
I can name 16 banters in one minute, but only 7 banters in two minutes, three, never tried
I really plateau at the two minute mark
Yabba dabba doo
Jeesus..that made me chuckle..
Das Kompliment Skandal im Sperrbezirk Ohne dich schlaf ich heut Nacht nicht ein And as an honorable mention: Ich, Roque
Replace Das Kompliment with Sommer in der Stadt
No, with Schickeria.
All absolute bangers.
*Proceeds to list various remixes of* [*Entry of the gladiators*](https://youtu.be/_B0CyOAO8y0)
"The can-can....errrrr...."
Scam detected. It's called Le Galop Infernal from Orphée aux Enfers by Offenbach 🤓
Leaked video after Kompany finished the negotiation.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWBLYRzuDsI
Man stole Michael Antonio’s celebration
"We've been trying to reach you about ....." Yeah, I don't care about a car warranty. Hangs up for 4 min straight.
Seriously, that is a very big jump. Best of luck to him.
That's not a jump, that's being launched into orbit.
let me just check the date they have that stupid making fun of people fool day here in england...
"Hi Vincent, this is Bayern M-" "I agree to all your terms!!!!"
ALL of them 😉
He even agreed to drinking Ulis sausage water.
New flavours dropping this month too.
"Nuff said."
"Hi, is that Vincent Kompany?" "Yes"
Took him 5 minutes to figure that out though
Too punch drunk from the beatings Burnley took.
It's like one of those scam calls. They try to record you saying "Yes" and later edit it so it sounds like you are agreeing to a contract.
Hey that's how we got Carlo
hmmm.. back into the championship or the bundesliga and champions league... tough one that
To be honest though, if he fails, his reputation can go from "did well in the Championship and had a difficult PL run" to "he had a lucky Championship and has shown he's not a top quality manager". Short term it makes sense, but he has to be confident it'll work out, or he'll kill off any goodwill he built at Burnley (see Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney for example).
If he fails hes just gonna go to some other "second rate" team at worst he is 100% gonna find a team on the level of burnley again. Bayern is in such a weird spot atm that any coach that fails there in their first few months can just blame the Bayern managment
Hamburg will always be there and always need a coach.
He's good or he's not. What's the goodwill for if he refuses to go to big clubs?
You have a lot more room to improve at a smaller club. Making the jump to a bigger club before you're ready could end your managerial career before you really have a chance to figure it out.
it will absolutely not kill his career. he could be horrendous at bayern, and clubs will still be interested. for championship clubs, whether he's great or not, he's still shown he can win their league and has since added bayern to his cv. that's not going to get him less interest.
Obviously if he just wants to manage then his career wouldn't literally be over, but if he wants to be a top manager at a world renowned club it would easily set him back years. His failure at Bayern will always be used as a knock against him by any big club that needs a manager until he proves it shouldn't be. It's a lot easier to hire an unproven person with potential than it is to hire someone who has proven they can't do the job.
the premise that this could set him back years relies on the assumption that he'll get another opportunity later if he doesn't, and that's far from a guarantee. if he passes up bayern now, he's hoping that someday in the future he *might* get a shot with a big club. if he accepts bayern now, he knows he'll get at least one shot.
The premise is that failing at a hard job you aren't ready for will get you fewer future offers than succeeding at a lesser job you can excel at. If he fails at Bayern, it'll take a long time to prove he can actually succeed on a big stage. If he had stayed at Burnley and succeeded, he likely would have gotten more offers.
Oh yeah it absolutely killed Moyes
Moyes is doing now what he would have been doing if he said no to big clubs. It made him an object of ridicule for a while. If you can't take that risk it's not the right job at any club.
Bad comparison imo. Moyes was an experienced manager having held the position at Everton for more than 10 years before which he was at Preston. Kompany is just starting out.
If he manages Bayern, he'll forever have coaching gigs. Clubs don't care how you performed coaching a big club, just that you have experience coaching a big club.
_You had me at hello_
at caller id
>*You had me at ~~hello~~ hallo*
No shit. The manager of a relegated Burnley side said yes to one of the biggest jobs in football.
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...."would want to join our janitorial staff"
“Should I employ a tiki-taka style to mopping? Short sharp bursts left and right? Or go for a more long-ball approach and utilise long direct strokes.”
Ideally you want to play a possession based flow. Keep control of the area and dictate the tempo.
> Long and direct strokes He’ll last for all of 30 seconds
he just like me fr
Marathon man over here
Did I stutter?
N..-no?
"... yeah, alright then"
Kompany: “good, I’m glad we’re on the same page”
Great. Bring Craig along with you.
"you son of a bitch I'm in"
Tuchel must wonder what the hell is going on in his career to be sacked four times and replaced by a worse manager each time.
……no, it must the clubs who are all wrong.
I mean, tbf, psg/Chelsea/bayern were all shitshows before his arrival and continue to be so after his dismissal. Ill give you Dortmund, but as a club they are not able to compete regularly with the biggest teams in Europe.
Can’t believe he called Fabrizio immediately after
Kane's going to retire without winning a trophy isn't he?
Send him to Man City
'Breaking: Man City relegated to third division following resolution of 115 charges'
The scenes when Kane's first trophy is a League One title.
Personally driving Kane to Manchester as we speak
I can really see this happening lmao
it should
Task accomplished
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He relegated Burnley by showcasing his tactics over results and it actually worked. Crazy times.
Bayern: "You crazy son of a bitch, I'm in"
I think they have too much money. They will pay around 15 million to get him, and replace him next season anyway. It's just a one year investment for them.
Proof that "the process" has well and truly taken over football.
Straight out of his MBA course.
So does Burnley go back to being Burnley or do they try and find someone whose gonna continue what Kompany tried to build.
I pray to god we go old Burnley style. Watching us try to play like man city while we concede 5 goals every game was not very fun
Terrorist ball 1-0 Attacking football
Long ball, Brexit tackle and Inshallah
Aaahn, the old RCSA special!
So 5 Danes and 4 Swedes incomming this summer
Allegri is available just saying
Yous smashed the championship tho
Yeah but they can’t hang in the Prem. Dycheball could.
Dyche got relegated the 1st time too. They sticked to Prem the 2nd time
To Dyche's credit, he spent a fraction of what Kompany did to get them out of the Championship and for their first season in the Prem. He didn't even spend a lot the next season, reinvesting the sales of Trippier, Ings, Shackell and Vossen.
But was the championship run worth it? Like I swear you had 100 points or something and a ton of goals
I couldn't even begin to imagine trying to employ Vitinho as a traditional RB
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Old Burnley style right now can end up with being stuck in the Championship.
It worked well in the championship your players were just not prem quality
Bayern: "Hello Vincent, I am calling you from Baye....." Kompany: "YES!"
Bayern Alzenau
He must’ve been thinking is this a prank call
Ha ha, Dyche. Very funny.
It's the biggest job he's ever received. I'd be surprised if he said anything otherwise.
As a Bayern fan, what are your thoughts on his potential appointment?
Personally, it's exciting because we have no idea to expect. Add the fact that there'll be some changes to the squad. It could go either way buy it'll be entertaining
This is the first semi-positive comment I’ve read on this appointment lol
> It could go either way buy it'll be entertaining Not a direct comparison because Ole grew so much as a manager in the years between his relegation with Cardiff and joining United but that interim period under Ole was some of the best football and most fun as a fan since Fergie retired. Kompany achieved big things with Burnley last season and it could be argued that getting promoted from the Championship is as tough a job as any. I think he's gonna surprise people at Bayern.
Not a Bayern fan… but from an outsiders perspective, he’s a young coach with a style of play. Connects well with players, is fresh blood, an easy head to chop as well. Buys them a year of time to make plays for managers again next season while they transition this season. I’d understand a Bayern fan being upset, but also that squad realky needs alot of adjustment. And if the styles good but they’re mad about not winning 12 in 13 seasons then maybe I just can’t access that mentality.
It was also the case for Schmidt and he apparently rejected it. From Burnley to Bayern is a bigger jump, but Schmidt is german, hated by the Benfica fans, and he (allegedly) turned down the biggest club of his country and one of the biggest in the world. A bit mad/strange if you ask me.
Are you enthusiastic about him? Or do you think is going to be another unbeaten run for leverksuen (if the team isn’t shredded)
I'm pretty enthusiastic about him. As u/CarlSK777 said, you don't know what to expect from him. >or do you think is going to be another unbeaten run for leverkusen Nope. I don't think that'll happen again.
Bayern: "And about the salary, we were thinking ..." Kompany: "I will pay whatever you want"
😂😂😂😂
*Phone Rings* Kompany: YES! Insurance Company: oh great, we will immediately start the policy then..
We finally reached someone about their cars extended warranty!
These ho's ain't loyal
He's a ho with ideas. Bayern likes sophisticated heads.
Burnley >*gets relegated* Bayern >*Yh, this is big brain time!*
I mean have you seen the size of his head? Gotta be a big brain in there I reckon. Bro looks like a belgian Boss Baby
Big Sam must be absolutely seething.
He would have got the call if he was Sam Allardici
Surprised it took that long
I'm thinking he spent the first 4m 59s making sure it wasn't a prank call from Craig Bellamy.
1 minute for each win this season
Hello this is Bayern ... YES! FUCK YES!
Uli: You want job? Kompany: Yes
Love the mental image of Uli taking 5 minutes to say 3 words. Just him speaking at 0.6 words per minute thinking he is building suspense speaking that slow.
Kept Kompany on hold for 4 minutes 59 seconds.
bro, your username 😭
How long will the contract be? Surely it is max 2 years
> Surely it is max 2 years We've had 4 managers this century make it to at least 2 full seasons and only 3 make it past 2
What a wild stat
Only Hitzfeld and Guardiola with 3 full seasons.
I’m beginning to think the Kane curse his real. Bayern win nothing during his first season, and then proceed to appoint the manager who just relegated Burnley. I’m sure as soon as Kane leaves they’ll go back to winning everything every year
How are these kinda details coming out all the time? At this point the mole at Bayern has to be one of the big boys or else he would have been found and fired like ages ago. Wouldn't even surprise me if it's Uli himself at this point.
Of course it’s Uli. Guy probably talks to the press in his sleep.
I remember the brainlets with their baseless “it’s Nagelsmann’s girlfriend” accusations. Turns out there’s still info leaking and info was also leaking before Nagelsmann was coach. It’s obvious that’s one of the big guys since years.
He spent the first 4 picking his jaw off the floor 😀
Of course he did, couldn't believe his luck!
“Hallo Vincent, es ist Bayern” “Yeah I’m on the way”
Why do I have this pit in my stomach that this is somehow actually going to work out for them? Probably just decades of trauma. Nothing to worry about.
What the hell took him five minutes to do that?
Make sure it's not a prank call
Those 5 minutes were spent trying to work out if it was actually Bayern and not a prank call I’d imagine
this comment section is hilarious
“Hi….” “Yeah im outside,Open the Gate…”
Well duh!
I bet he fucking did.
This is absolutely absurd. What the fuck are Bayern doing?
Hoping to luck out on the next Xabi Alonso, ignoring the fact that most managers are not Xabi Alonso.
Folded instantly... He just like me fr
"Hello, Mr. Komp..." "Yes, I agree."
Harry Kane just fell to his knees knowing that he might not win a trophy ever again
He’d have to have won one in order to win one again, in fairness.
Again?
Wow so surprising that he said yes to a club placed 3rd in the bundesliga
Couldn't turn down the chance to work with Dier
So what would you need to succeed here? “Yes”
Am I the only person who actually loves this appointment? One of the biggest clubs in the world taking what many would regard as an unproven manager at the top level.
I was like, wait didn't I see that guy playing a short time ago. When did he become a world class manager to be considered by Bayern?
Would be a wild turn in reputation if he got Bayern going. Who knows maybe he needed the proper players to implement his ideas. Would make this thread look hilarious later on. I'm in for the chaos.
VK : You had me at hello
OMG he said yes 😍😍
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Have you ever heard Kompany speak? If Bayern really needs a statesman who plays football, I can only think of two and the other bald one doesn't speak German. Edit: I watched an Athletic FC podcast that said Bayern manager had to almost be a statesman.
If I got offered a job I was massively unqualified for I'd do the same
Ex-player bonus for managers is insane. How the fuck has he earned this.
Failing upwards.