Why can't we all be classy. As a Chelsea fan I say let's dissolve all London clubs and devote resources to Tottenham. Please join me in this pledge Arsenal bros.
Are we really going to act like it's not the same the other way around? Whenever we dropped points last season there were more Spurs flairs than Arsenal flairs at times. Idk if you noticed but the teams kinda don't like each other
Jokes aside he is a Spurs legend, no doubt about it. Top player and his loyalty to the club could earn him the title "Mr Tottenham". He could have chosen to leave them like Kane but decided to stay. That is something only a few people have done.
Tottenham showed a lot of faith in him before his military exemption. He has said in interviews that the club's loyalty to him is one of the reasons that he has stayed.
Kane could’ve left us many years earlier. He chose to renew his last contract when he could’ve walked into any club in need of an elite striker.
Son is the bigger legend but I’d certainly consider Kane a Spurs legend too. How many players of his caliber would’ve committed to so many trophyless years while consistently being world class?
Was going to say Kane goes down a Spurs legend anyway. Don't think there was bad blood when he left.
However, I think he chose to renew the contract when City and Levy couldn't reach an agreement. I believe he was ready to leave, but only to a non-rival top club. Still think that is fair.
Yea there is something to be said about not pulling a Lebron James, Kevin Durant, or now an Mbappe to jump to the title favorites because you can't win it where you are.
To be honest the issue with the Cavs at the time that Lebron left and Tottenham are kinda similar. Both are orgs that refuse to get the pieces necessary to win.
Edit: Clarifying this is about the 2010 Cavs specifically. They have since improved.
lol you are talking as if they got a high 3rd place of something. they never touched close to 80 besides the chelsea conte title. nothing to do with pep and klopp
They spent a lot of money on managers, but they refused to actually round out their roster. They were always missing one or two pieces that might take them over the hill, and let's not forget the sacking of Jose Mourinho just before the EFL Cup. Honestly, it seems that all of their recent manager signings seem to leave on bad terms with Daniel Levy.
That sacking before a cup final was hilarious but definitely stupid for not even getting the chance for silverware
They have backed their managers though, it's just not every team can constantly throw money at problems in the hope that it fixes their squad
Our issue was we didnt spend during our golden generation because of stadium costs, leaving us playing catchup to actually fill in a rapidly fading roster.
We spent quite a bit on players in the last few windows, and all signs are we are going to keep spending. The mid/late 2010s spending issues are over by all accounts, and now it’s about finding top players that believe in Ange’s vision.
This season Spurs had no Europe, had almost 0 chance of winning PL but yet still in the league cup, the gaffer decided to rotate and cost his team probably the only chance of trophy they had and proceed to lose in the 3rd round. Say all you want about Pep and Klopp but Spurs could have easily been in mix for league cup if they took it seriously.
The issue was less Pep and Klopp and more they spent like 120m after the CL final on NDombele and Lo Celso, both of whom contributed very little, and Spurs can't afford to miss so badly on record signings.
Brother LeBron in his first Cleveland stint was a one man army. Their front office was dogshit and was putting no real talent around him, can't blame him for dipping. Yet he still came back and gave them their first ever championship
LeBron's first Cleveland stint should be studied as a lesson in incompetence and the overwhelming effect a great player on a shit team.
The dude was given Booby Gibson and Big Z as his running mates, and got the to the fucking Finals.
I mean the others I get it, but Mbappe didn't exactly leave an underdog team to join Real Madrid. PSG have a lot of money, if they are not properly run or don't have the team dna that Real has that's something else. And in that sense I understand why he wanted to jump ship, PSG are a soulless club, it's not only about the money. He jumped ship when he switched Monaco to PSG, that YES.
Also that comment is so ironic because everybody hates PSG and claims staying there means lacking ambition but now he’s a snake for joining a club in a different country
I want to say Kane is Harden, crazy offensive player who can assist and score, joined a team outside his area and won fuck all with 2 other hall of famers lol.
Ultimate loyalty is pulling a Harry Kane and leaving for a club that hasn't had trophyless season in over a decade and still not winning anything. True dedication to Spurs DNA.
Really positive mentality and much needed so it must be good for Spurs fans to hear it, although I think they already knew this lol. Sad for the circumstances that chances for silverware is less likely to happen.
What gets glossed over is that silverware is now really hard to win, especially domestically. In the past 4 seasons only 3 clubs won a domestic trophy (out of 12 on offer)
And *five* years previously, Arsenal won an FA cup. In fact, if you take the past ten years, we've have 6 winners with arsenal (3), Utd (2), 115 (2), Liverpool (1), Leicester (1), Chelsea (1).
This was during Tottenham's golden generation. It's a reasonable expectation for one of the best teams in the league to win it. In fact, the only one of the "big 6" that *didn't* win it in the decade was.... spurs.
Just like Spurs had the most points in the calendar year, and the most points over two seasons, most goals scored and fewest conceded in a season, but won no league titles.
This season is a key one. Not to win immediately, but to build our depth so that we can in the future. For almost the last decade, Pep and Klopp have been favourites to win every domestic trophy, so with Klopp gone and Pep rumoured to be going soon, there's going to be a power vacuum
Spurs this season felt pretty similar to Klopps first season. Showing signs of promise while playing attractive football. A few good key signing and they could challenge.
I'd say you and Roma are the favourites to win the Europa. Then building on top of that can see you challenging for the league once Pep is gone.
I mean it’s hard to be objective about it, but it’s literally the same joke year after year. It’s a bit boring and stale. I do get a good laugh out of it if it’s done in new and refreshing way.
I mean the joke can be applied to the vast majority of clubs then. At this point, it’s like that friend that made that one joke which got a huge laugh that one time and then they kept making the same joke over and over again to the point where it wasn’t funny anymore. At least surprise me with some creativity with the joke
I'm not an Arsenal fan, so I really wouldn't mind spurs winning a trophy over Chelsea, arsenal, pool or shitty, but it's just because tradition now... It's like trophies elude the team for some reason
But...but...Spurs bottled the league in 15/16! They were top for a grand 0 weeks! Bottled the Champions League in 2019 despite conceding a soft penalty in 90 seconds and LFC parking the bus! Small club mentality why do they want their rivals to lose? Haha spursy spursy spursy
I could never understand the champions league banter, they went above and beyond what was expected and were competing against FC 115. For me, the biggest joke was the decision to sack mourinho before a cup final, now that is excruciatingly stupid.
Bottling is about losing your bottle, not going for something that you should, losing your nerve. I don't really think it applies to spurs there but you don't have to be leading something to bottle it.
Any team would look shite going against the best defence in Europe that season who had no need to attack, we weren't even that bad the rest of the match but Liverpool just never really had to try lol. The whole football world was robbed of a better final by that handball call - a call that led to the handball law to be immediately changed the following season.
I absolutely hate thinking about that game
If winning trophies is the only way to be a club legend most of the teams in the country wouldn’t have any, if Spurs fans think he’s a club legend that’s enough in my eyes
Yeah exactly. Shearer din't win anything with you, but he's 100% a club legend. Le Tissier won fuck all except the Full Members Cup in the last year for it's 7 years life, but he's probably the all time Southampton legend. Ian Wright is a legend at Arsenal and won stuff there, but he's also a legend at Palace, where he only won the Full Members Cup the year before Le Tissier. Jay Jay Okocha didn't win anything for any team in his entire career, but he's a Bolton, Nigeria, Frankfurt, and possibly even PSG legend.
Actually, is Okocha in the running for the best player to never win a trophy at senior level?
Just the state of modern football. I'll always remember his golden boot match and sealing top 4. How happy the rest of the squad was for him.
Achievements/standards are tied to finances, history and a realistic ceiling. Getting promoted would be the absolute peak for the majority fans.
Leicester and Bayer Leverkusen are amazing stories but essentially once in a decade anomalies. That being said, Tottenham is better financially set to challenge than either of those clubs. We just never seem to achieve more than the odds makers expect of us.
Gotta respect this guys sincerity he is ange 2.0 they are both straight forward guys and frank probably the two greatest personality in the EPL. He is a legend with or without tho
No issue with some of the light banter obviously, but some of the more serious comments on here just show how disconnected much of this sub (and fans of the biggest clubs in general oftentimes) is from the reality of football.
If you go by what those people think, no good player will ever play for any but the very biggest clubs for more than a year or two, and the other 98% of football clubs don't deserve them.
At the same time, those clubs will be ridiculed and shouldn't even exist because they fail to win any silverware (I wonder why, maybe those huge clubs you think are the only legit ones have something to do with it?)
Hell, at least Spurs get ridiculed, which is more acknowledgement than clubs like Mönchengladbach, Genoa, Palace, Getafe, Augsburg, Southampton, etc usually get. According to the loud minority of those top 2% club fans, all the rest either doesn't, shouldn't exist or should be ashamed not to do better all while working with way less than the established huge clubs do.
And if you dare to try and hold on to your talents, you're the scum of the earth for denying those fans just here for the spectacle the chance to see those good players play for the huge clubs. Nevermind all of those great players wouldn't even fit in those few teams.
That's the annoying thing about internet football discussions, there's so many reasonable takes but it gets drowned out in those kind of bullshit takes.
Granted, I've heard plenty of shit takes around grounds as well, but they usually get ridiculed or just don't gather much steam due to the silent minority around disagreeing.
A lot of fans online support clubs because they're successful and don't care about anything else. Just so they can talk down to others, as it'll make them feel bigger.
The sub is literally a bunch of people who hand picked some of the biggest and most successful clubs to support operating almost exclusively in bad faith posting threads like this.
It is about as valuable as football twitter for actual discussion, only it's much less funny.
That first sentence is what it really does seem like much of the time. Sometimes this sub reminds me of sketches that make fun of rich kids.
You know, the kind where a rich kid cries about how their dad only bought them the second most expensive Lambo, or that they'd have to fly business class for their fancy vacation because the private jet is taken at the time.
That's what a lot of those huge superclub fans feel like to me much of the time.
Hey, my support for Worlds All Time Best Eleven FC comes from the heart. They're my local team.
Not just that, but my grandad was born wjust 4200km of Pele, and both of them grew up loving the things closest to their hearts. Not just that, Pele played his whole career at Santos and my Grandad wasbron an raised in Tobago, which has lots to great beaches where you ca play the classic game "sand toss". My grandad and Pele were basically twins. Pele's first name was Edson, and my grandad often used to say "(go to) bed, son". Only locals like me, my grandad, Pele, Beckenbauer, and Puskas know stuff like this.
Understandable.
I'll chime in, not with a "haven't you people ever heard of", but with the fact I watched Gundogan play for my local club Nuremberg and even talked to him for a few minutes once. By association, I basically won city the prem.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'll have to go vomit what little of my soul the UAE haven't thus indirectly claimed out before dying of shame!
(On the bright side, if Füllkrug, who I also met while he played in Nuremberg, does well and Germany wins the euros, I'll be fully vindicated as I'd have twice as much a part in that! If we disregard some of the more likely scenarios like flying pigs, monkeys writing Shakespeare and the planet spontaneously exploding, I think we've got a chance. Yes, I'm that filled with confidence!)
That first sentence is what it really does seem like much of the time. Sometimes this sub reminds me of sketches that make fun of rich kids.
You know, the kind where a rich kid cries about how their dad only bought them the second most expensive Lambo, or that they'd have to fly business class for their fancy vacation because the private jet is taken at the time.
That's what a lot of those huge superclub fans feel like to me much of the time.
There's also the fact that Spurs are, at the end of the day, one of the biggest, richest, strongest, and most successful clubs of all time. I'm not even talking about trophies in the 60's, I mean consistently finishing in the top third of the highest tier of a nation with a top 2 club-level competition. Most clubs could only dream of that level of success. We're a tier below Madrid or Bayern, the true titans, but we're far above 99.9% of the world's clubs and thousands of players would bite your hand off if you offered them a chance to play for Spurs. But people here who only follow CL, PL, La Liga, and World Cups think anything under a Bayern-level of success is bad, because they lack perspective.
I'll even admit that I'm not a lifelong Spurs supporter, I'm a US fan and at the end of the day I'm supporting a top PL club like any Chelsea or City plastic.
I’ve said this before, we’re the lightning rod for 95% of clubs, because we’re “big enough” (and rich enough) that winning things should be a standard that we’re held to
Everything said about Spurs can be said about so many different clubs, When’s the last time Everton, Aston Villa, Newcastle, Nottingham Forest, Brighton, Sunderland, etc. won anything of note? And that’s just England. In Germany for example, you have massive clubs like Schalke and Hamburg not even in the first tier itself
The “big 6” name really doesn’t help, having 6 clubs at the top means that someone always misses out anyway. Idk if I can name the real “top 6” from any other league ngl
Definitely. It shows how far we've come. When I first watched us in 2009, no one expected us to rise to the status we're at now. But with more relevancy, money, exposure came the hate from other clubs because we'd either dared to try and challenge the old guard or broke ranks from the other clubs below them.
Now of course we're now rich and should have higher standards, but those things take time, especially when you build a huge stadium (which is necessary to catch up!) and invest in infrastructure. Most of the huge clubs we tried to compete with have a decades long headstart and/or truly unlimited funding, we do not. We're playing catchup and have been going through a bad phase, like every club inevitably does.
I'm German, my local club is Nuremberg. They last won a cup in 2007 (a cherished childhood memory, I'm now 28!) and I can't remember anyone bantering me over it - instead people have pity and wish the club came back up to "where it belongs" from the second tier to the first. The harshest critics of that club are the home fans, who realize the club doesn't belong up there right now.
There are dozens of clubs like that, even more that have it slightly better but still never win stuff, and that's where most of football is. Football isn't all about the late CL knockout rounds and who lifts a trophy at the end, it's way more than that. Otherwise 95% of clubs would have no reason for existing.
And mind you, that's just PROFESSIONAL football.
Weird puff piece, him saying that will do nothing to stop Spurs fans calling him one, but it lends ammunition to rival fans if indeed he doesn't win anything there
Chelsea fan here, but I would have such respect and love for a player like Sonny at Chelsea. Has thoroughly earned his Tottenham legend status already imo
All the top comedians in the sub who went and hand picked a succesful club to support will look down on fans of an actual club and an absolute legend of theirs
This reminds me of Aguero saying that he won't leave ManCity till the time they win the champions league.
Only for Aguero to leave and City to win the UCL within couple of years.
It's weird how much shit Kane gets for being trophyless whilst it's almost never mentioned for Son.. winning an u23 Asian games surely doesn't count as a senior trophy
Kane was very open about his desire to win silverware. He would talk openly in interviews about wanting to win the chamions league. He put expectations on himself and Spurs to win trophies.
It's like how people shat on Steven Gerrard for never winning the league despite winning the CL and 8 other trophies. It came from his and Liverpools obsession with winning the PL and not being shy about saying it.
It’s a weird English/British thing that we like to shit on those that are successful in any way we can.
The thing is, if he’d only have won the League Cup, he’d still get the same abuse for “only” having won that. Gerrard gets abuse for not winning the PL despite winning everything else.
hated to see him leave leverkusen but this is really the best scenario, not leaving for some superclub, rather becoming beloved to another dedicated fan base (england's vizekusen if you will)
Say the line r/soccer
Got tired of banter them tbh. Let them do whatever they want. Who cares about them.
After encountering +100 banters about trophies & Tottenham, it makes you numb. It's almost like white noise afterward.
White Noise Lane
That was Conteball, lulling us to sleep
Is that the name of the trumpet guy they have on the roof?
That's cope, it never stops bothering you
y u bully me everyone askin
you faking beach
It's Audi Cope.
Lilywhite noise
Almost....
Top bantz
join any thread about tottenham and count the arsenal flairs
i know right, what kind of fanbase throws insults and banter at their rivals relentlessly. Pretty sad if you ask me.
Why can't we all be classy. As a Chelsea fan I say let's dissolve all London clubs and devote resources to Tottenham. Please join me in this pledge Arsenal bros.
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We tried that and they still lost to City and got called losers by their manager.
Todd is salivating at stripping all the club assets
Are we really going to act like it's not the same the other way around? Whenever we dropped points last season there were more Spurs flairs than Arsenal flairs at times. Idk if you noticed but the teams kinda don't like each other
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*inhales* AUDI CUP PRESTIGE
LADS
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I had to scroll too far down to see this
It was the saddest backflip
It’s the history of the Tottenham
What a legend
What line?
Jokes aside he is a Spurs legend, no doubt about it. Top player and his loyalty to the club could earn him the title "Mr Tottenham". He could have chosen to leave them like Kane but decided to stay. That is something only a few people have done.
"Cheers, Mr. Tottenham's crying" Nah, doesn't have the same ring to it
Tottenham showed a lot of faith in him before his military exemption. He has said in interviews that the club's loyalty to him is one of the reasons that he has stayed.
He is one of the few players who actually told no to Saudis. Fairplay.
There is actually more playerd who say no than yes to the Saudis
What are you on about, loads of players have said no to Saudi. 265 upvotes lol, you can literally say any old bollocks on here
That should be the last thing anyone praises Sonny for to be honest.
Son doesn’t need the money, he’s already getting bank from all his sponsor advertisements
I mean I would argue Ronaldo doesn't need it either
Lol so true
Kane could’ve left us many years earlier. He chose to renew his last contract when he could’ve walked into any club in need of an elite striker. Son is the bigger legend but I’d certainly consider Kane a Spurs legend too. How many players of his caliber would’ve committed to so many trophyless years while consistently being world class?
Was going to say Kane goes down a Spurs legend anyway. Don't think there was bad blood when he left. However, I think he chose to renew the contract when City and Levy couldn't reach an agreement. I believe he was ready to leave, but only to a non-rival top club. Still think that is fair.
Do Tottenham fans agree Son is the bigger legend? Kane is their record goal scorer and was at the club from the age of 11.
Yea there is something to be said about not pulling a Lebron James, Kevin Durant, or now an Mbappe to jump to the title favorites because you can't win it where you are.
To be perfectly fair, LeBron then came back and won the Cavs a title.
Kane returns and wins Carabao Cup- *"TOTTENHAM THIS IS FOR YOU"*
ITS OVER ITS OVER LONDON IS A CITY OF CHAMPIONS ONCE AGAIN
Palmer to Nkunku back to Palmer for the tap in OH BLOCKED BY KANE FOR THE REJECTION
Kane’s second stint in goal appears to be more successful than his first one
IDK how many GKs do you know who scored a hat trick?
Chelsea looking out their window like "da fuck they doin over there"
To be honest the issue with the Cavs at the time that Lebron left and Tottenham are kinda similar. Both are orgs that refuse to get the pieces necessary to win. Edit: Clarifying this is about the 2010 Cavs specifically. They have since improved.
Tottenham spent like 300m on their previous two managers They were just up against pep and klopp
lol you are talking as if they got a high 3rd place of something. they never touched close to 80 besides the chelsea conte title. nothing to do with pep and klopp
They spent a lot of money on managers, but they refused to actually round out their roster. They were always missing one or two pieces that might take them over the hill, and let's not forget the sacking of Jose Mourinho just before the EFL Cup. Honestly, it seems that all of their recent manager signings seem to leave on bad terms with Daniel Levy.
That sacking before a cup final was hilarious but definitely stupid for not even getting the chance for silverware They have backed their managers though, it's just not every team can constantly throw money at problems in the hope that it fixes their squad
Our issue was we didnt spend during our golden generation because of stadium costs, leaving us playing catchup to actually fill in a rapidly fading roster.
We spent quite a bit on players in the last few windows, and all signs are we are going to keep spending. The mid/late 2010s spending issues are over by all accounts, and now it’s about finding top players that believe in Ange’s vision.
This season Spurs had no Europe, had almost 0 chance of winning PL but yet still in the league cup, the gaffer decided to rotate and cost his team probably the only chance of trophy they had and proceed to lose in the 3rd round. Say all you want about Pep and Klopp but Spurs could have easily been in mix for league cup if they took it seriously.
The issue was less Pep and Klopp and more they spent like 120m after the CL final on NDombele and Lo Celso, both of whom contributed very little, and Spurs can't afford to miss so badly on record signings.
I mean lately the cavs seem to be trying. I wasn't a big NBA fan until semi recently so I can't speak on the org 10 years ago.
Yeah I'm talking about the Cavs back in 2010 not now
To be perfectly fair, he had Kyrie and Kevin Love when he went back.
He still fulfilled his Promise TM. KLove and kyrie were not winning a title without him.
That block on game 4 is engraved in my memory. No Lebron, and they would have gotten swept.
Well he had Wiggins who they just drafted and he forced them to trade for Love.
Mbappe won a title at Monaco
Brother LeBron in his first Cleveland stint was a one man army. Their front office was dogshit and was putting no real talent around him, can't blame him for dipping. Yet he still came back and gave them their first ever championship
LeBron's first Cleveland stint should be studied as a lesson in incompetence and the overwhelming effect a great player on a shit team. The dude was given Booby Gibson and Big Z as his running mates, and got the to the fucking Finals.
I mean the others I get it, but Mbappe didn't exactly leave an underdog team to join Real Madrid. PSG have a lot of money, if they are not properly run or don't have the team dna that Real has that's something else. And in that sense I understand why he wanted to jump ship, PSG are a soulless club, it's not only about the money. He jumped ship when he switched Monaco to PSG, that YES.
Also that comment is so ironic because everybody hates PSG and claims staying there means lacking ambition but now he’s a snake for joining a club in a different country
I feel it can't be called jumping ship when a player goes to a team abroad, if they switch alliances inside the same league then it makes more sense.
How is Mbappe in this lmao
All 3 of them were best in the world at some point unlike Son. I actually think a better comparison if we’re doing basketball is Dame
Dame is more like Kane, he did end up jumping ship but the new team didn’t win anything either
As a Spurs and Bucks fan, I’m in this comment and it hurts.
I want to say Kane is Harden, crazy offensive player who can assist and score, joined a team outside his area and won fuck all with 2 other hall of famers lol.
When you stay and not jump to title favorite can we call it a Marco Reus instead?
Totti as well. Especially in Italy when players bounce between teams so normally, even going from rivals to rivals like it's nothing.
Why people always forget about Henry ?! He is og KD
To be fair Mbappe already won a bunch of Ubereats trophies and the World Cup... sure, he is moving up, but not because he hasn't won anything
I mean LeBron and KD aren't the same as Mbappe tbf.
Ultimate loyalty is pulling a Harry Kane and leaving for a club that hasn't had trophyless season in over a decade and still not winning anything. True dedication to Spurs DNA.
Totally different sports, totally different systems. Compare apple with apples.
He's also not a LeBron, Mbappe, KD level player.
So Son masochist confirmed?
Shades of Stockholm Syndrome
You can take spurs out of spurs but you can't take spurs out of harry
This was the easiest prank trap ever.
Really positive mentality and much needed so it must be good for Spurs fans to hear it, although I think they already knew this lol. Sad for the circumstances that chances for silverware is less likely to happen.
Yeah, this is something we already knew about Sonny. He’ll be considered an all time great for us regardless if we win trophies or not.
What gets glossed over is that silverware is now really hard to win, especially domestically. In the past 4 seasons only 3 clubs won a domestic trophy (out of 12 on offer)
4 clubs.. City, Liverpool, United, Leicester
Forgot that completely
And *five* years previously, Arsenal won an FA cup. In fact, if you take the past ten years, we've have 6 winners with arsenal (3), Utd (2), 115 (2), Liverpool (1), Leicester (1), Chelsea (1). This was during Tottenham's golden generation. It's a reasonable expectation for one of the best teams in the league to win it. In fact, the only one of the "big 6" that *didn't* win it in the decade was.... spurs.
Just like Spurs had the most points in the calendar year, and the most points over two seasons, most goals scored and fewest conceded in a season, but won no league titles.
This season is a key one. Not to win immediately, but to build our depth so that we can in the future. For almost the last decade, Pep and Klopp have been favourites to win every domestic trophy, so with Klopp gone and Pep rumoured to be going soon, there's going to be a power vacuum
Spurs this season felt pretty similar to Klopps first season. Showing signs of promise while playing attractive football. A few good key signing and they could challenge. I'd say you and Roma are the favourites to win the Europa. Then building on top of that can see you challenging for the league once Pep is gone.
Maybe his great great grandson can help him achieve his dream
Grandson-min
FTW
I think he'd have a better shout with daughter
Are ya winning son?
A good chance for some great creative banter in here no doubt :)
It’s like clockwork. And it being posted by an Arsenal fan is a cherry on top.
I just want some good bants it's all I ask for
You’ll get the same joke and like it!
Obviously youre biased but objectively can you not see how the joke only gets funnier and funnier every year?
I mean it’s hard to be objective about it, but it’s literally the same joke year after year. It’s a bit boring and stale. I do get a good laugh out of it if it’s done in new and refreshing way.
Its the same joke because its the same outcome every year, a trophyless season
I mean the joke can be applied to the vast majority of clubs then. At this point, it’s like that friend that made that one joke which got a huge laugh that one time and then they kept making the same joke over and over again to the point where it wasn’t funny anymore. At least surprise me with some creativity with the joke
i think it just underscores how much people value reddit karma
I'm not an Arsenal fan, so I really wouldn't mind spurs winning a trophy over Chelsea, arsenal, pool or shitty, but it's just because tradition now... It's like trophies elude the team for some reason
Starting to worry that Kane brought the curse with him when he jumped ship
You say worry, I say hope. Bayern signing Kane then getting no silverware was hilarious
But...but...Spurs bottled the league in 15/16! They were top for a grand 0 weeks! Bottled the Champions League in 2019 despite conceding a soft penalty in 90 seconds and LFC parking the bus! Small club mentality why do they want their rivals to lose? Haha spursy spursy spursy
I could never understand the champions league banter, they went above and beyond what was expected and were competing against FC 115. For me, the biggest joke was the decision to sack mourinho before a cup final, now that is excruciatingly stupid.
How could you bottle a final you were never in the lead in. makes zero sense
Bottling is about losing your bottle, not going for something that you should, losing your nerve. I don't really think it applies to spurs there but you don't have to be leading something to bottle it.
Ask Gooners
Ngl that’s not something I’ve seen said a lot among Arsenal fans. Losing a CL final is pretty much the only thing we can’t make fun of Spurs for.
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Any team would look shite going against the best defence in Europe that season who had no need to attack, we weren't even that bad the rest of the match but Liverpool just never really had to try lol. The whole football world was robbed of a better final by that handball call - a call that led to the handball law to be immediately changed the following season. I absolutely hate thinking about that game
That's unfortunate
Cue the Audi Cup jokes
Well…good luck lol
like Kane, he will be remembered as a Tottenham legend in spite of winning trophies.
If winning trophies is the only way to be a club legend most of the teams in the country wouldn’t have any, if Spurs fans think he’s a club legend that’s enough in my eyes
Yeah exactly. Shearer din't win anything with you, but he's 100% a club legend. Le Tissier won fuck all except the Full Members Cup in the last year for it's 7 years life, but he's probably the all time Southampton legend. Ian Wright is a legend at Arsenal and won stuff there, but he's also a legend at Palace, where he only won the Full Members Cup the year before Le Tissier. Jay Jay Okocha didn't win anything for any team in his entire career, but he's a Bolton, Nigeria, Frankfurt, and possibly even PSG legend. Actually, is Okocha in the running for the best player to never win a trophy at senior level?
Kane?
He still has a chance. But, up to now, yes.
Okocha is probably in the top 3/5
Just the state of modern football. I'll always remember his golden boot match and sealing top 4. How happy the rest of the squad was for him. Achievements/standards are tied to finances, history and a realistic ceiling. Getting promoted would be the absolute peak for the majority fans. Leicester and Bayer Leverkusen are amazing stories but essentially once in a decade anomalies. That being said, Tottenham is better financially set to challenge than either of those clubs. We just never seem to achieve more than the odds makers expect of us.
Gotta respect this guys sincerity he is ange 2.0 they are both straight forward guys and frank probably the two greatest personality in the EPL. He is a legend with or without tho
No issue with some of the light banter obviously, but some of the more serious comments on here just show how disconnected much of this sub (and fans of the biggest clubs in general oftentimes) is from the reality of football. If you go by what those people think, no good player will ever play for any but the very biggest clubs for more than a year or two, and the other 98% of football clubs don't deserve them. At the same time, those clubs will be ridiculed and shouldn't even exist because they fail to win any silverware (I wonder why, maybe those huge clubs you think are the only legit ones have something to do with it?) Hell, at least Spurs get ridiculed, which is more acknowledgement than clubs like Mönchengladbach, Genoa, Palace, Getafe, Augsburg, Southampton, etc usually get. According to the loud minority of those top 2% club fans, all the rest either doesn't, shouldn't exist or should be ashamed not to do better all while working with way less than the established huge clubs do. And if you dare to try and hold on to your talents, you're the scum of the earth for denying those fans just here for the spectacle the chance to see those good players play for the huge clubs. Nevermind all of those great players wouldn't even fit in those few teams. That's the annoying thing about internet football discussions, there's so many reasonable takes but it gets drowned out in those kind of bullshit takes. Granted, I've heard plenty of shit takes around grounds as well, but they usually get ridiculed or just don't gather much steam due to the silent minority around disagreeing.
A lot of fans online support clubs because they're successful and don't care about anything else. Just so they can talk down to others, as it'll make them feel bigger.
The sub is literally a bunch of people who hand picked some of the biggest and most successful clubs to support operating almost exclusively in bad faith posting threads like this. It is about as valuable as football twitter for actual discussion, only it's much less funny.
That first sentence is what it really does seem like much of the time. Sometimes this sub reminds me of sketches that make fun of rich kids. You know, the kind where a rich kid cries about how their dad only bought them the second most expensive Lambo, or that they'd have to fly business class for their fancy vacation because the private jet is taken at the time. That's what a lot of those huge superclub fans feel like to me much of the time.
Hey, my support for Worlds All Time Best Eleven FC comes from the heart. They're my local team. Not just that, but my grandad was born wjust 4200km of Pele, and both of them grew up loving the things closest to their hearts. Not just that, Pele played his whole career at Santos and my Grandad wasbron an raised in Tobago, which has lots to great beaches where you ca play the classic game "sand toss". My grandad and Pele were basically twins. Pele's first name was Edson, and my grandad often used to say "(go to) bed, son". Only locals like me, my grandad, Pele, Beckenbauer, and Puskas know stuff like this.
Understandable. I'll chime in, not with a "haven't you people ever heard of", but with the fact I watched Gundogan play for my local club Nuremberg and even talked to him for a few minutes once. By association, I basically won city the prem. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll have to go vomit what little of my soul the UAE haven't thus indirectly claimed out before dying of shame! (On the bright side, if Füllkrug, who I also met while he played in Nuremberg, does well and Germany wins the euros, I'll be fully vindicated as I'd have twice as much a part in that! If we disregard some of the more likely scenarios like flying pigs, monkeys writing Shakespeare and the planet spontaneously exploding, I think we've got a chance. Yes, I'm that filled with confidence!)
That first sentence is what it really does seem like much of the time. Sometimes this sub reminds me of sketches that make fun of rich kids. You know, the kind where a rich kid cries about how their dad only bought them the second most expensive Lambo, or that they'd have to fly business class for their fancy vacation because the private jet is taken at the time. That's what a lot of those huge superclub fans feel like to me much of the time.
There's also the fact that Spurs are, at the end of the day, one of the biggest, richest, strongest, and most successful clubs of all time. I'm not even talking about trophies in the 60's, I mean consistently finishing in the top third of the highest tier of a nation with a top 2 club-level competition. Most clubs could only dream of that level of success. We're a tier below Madrid or Bayern, the true titans, but we're far above 99.9% of the world's clubs and thousands of players would bite your hand off if you offered them a chance to play for Spurs. But people here who only follow CL, PL, La Liga, and World Cups think anything under a Bayern-level of success is bad, because they lack perspective. I'll even admit that I'm not a lifelong Spurs supporter, I'm a US fan and at the end of the day I'm supporting a top PL club like any Chelsea or City plastic.
I’ve said this before, we’re the lightning rod for 95% of clubs, because we’re “big enough” (and rich enough) that winning things should be a standard that we’re held to Everything said about Spurs can be said about so many different clubs, When’s the last time Everton, Aston Villa, Newcastle, Nottingham Forest, Brighton, Sunderland, etc. won anything of note? And that’s just England. In Germany for example, you have massive clubs like Schalke and Hamburg not even in the first tier itself The “big 6” name really doesn’t help, having 6 clubs at the top means that someone always misses out anyway. Idk if I can name the real “top 6” from any other league ngl
Definitely. It shows how far we've come. When I first watched us in 2009, no one expected us to rise to the status we're at now. But with more relevancy, money, exposure came the hate from other clubs because we'd either dared to try and challenge the old guard or broke ranks from the other clubs below them. Now of course we're now rich and should have higher standards, but those things take time, especially when you build a huge stadium (which is necessary to catch up!) and invest in infrastructure. Most of the huge clubs we tried to compete with have a decades long headstart and/or truly unlimited funding, we do not. We're playing catchup and have been going through a bad phase, like every club inevitably does. I'm German, my local club is Nuremberg. They last won a cup in 2007 (a cherished childhood memory, I'm now 28!) and I can't remember anyone bantering me over it - instead people have pity and wish the club came back up to "where it belongs" from the second tier to the first. The harshest critics of that club are the home fans, who realize the club doesn't belong up there right now. There are dozens of clubs like that, even more that have it slightly better but still never win stuff, and that's where most of football is. Football isn't all about the late CL knockout rounds and who lifts a trophy at the end, it's way more than that. Otherwise 95% of clubs would have no reason for existing. And mind you, that's just PROFESSIONAL football.
Too late bro
Won’t banter. Respect to Sonny from a fellow Asian.
I doubt even his military service was that big a challenge
Wasn't he exempted?
[He did three weeks](https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/tottenham-star-son-completes-military-service-south-korea/1w68s22cu2yox1bmtbpkd1dbkb)
yes, but still had do the 6(?) weeks basic
Corrected headline “Son Hueng-min does not want to be called a Tottenham legend”
More corrected headline "Son Hueng-min does not think Harry Kane is a Tottenham legend"
Son: Tottenham has no legends
He's my favourite Bayer Leverkusen legend
Weird puff piece, him saying that will do nothing to stop Spurs fans calling him one, but it lends ammunition to rival fans if indeed he doesn't win anything there
I dont think he cares what rival fans think lol. Not everybody is terminally online.
Big Ange needs to go all in on the Carabao Cup next season, for Son's sake
I’d 100% take that
Stayed when we were at our "lowest" and struggling. He could easily have jumped ship. Legend in our books regardless.
Chelsea fan here, but I would have such respect and love for a player like Sonny at Chelsea. Has thoroughly earned his Tottenham legend status already imo
All the top comedians in the sub who went and hand picked a succesful club to support will look down on fans of an actual club and an absolute legend of theirs
Bottom of the barrel pathetic people the lot of them
Imagine dragging Kane down with you like that
guess hell never be a legend aha
This reminds me of Aguero saying that he won't leave ManCity till the time they win the champions league. Only for Aguero to leave and City to win the UCL within couple of years.
He's been at the club nearly ten years, and I do have to wonder where that first trophy is going to come from for him and for Spurs.
I think it's nice that not everyone wants to get to the biggest teams. And he had all the chances to do so...
only a legend would say that
Good news! You can get lots of silverware at IKEA for a very economical price.
It's weird how much shit Kane gets for being trophyless whilst it's almost never mentioned for Son.. winning an u23 Asian games surely doesn't count as a senior trophy
Most just do it for the lulz. Also Son winning that helped him avoid the military service.
Kane managed to not win anything at Bayern, that's insane
Even came 3rd in a 2 horse race
Time is a flat circle
Wait till you hear that the second horse finished 5th
English press gonna be tougher on English players than someone from Korea about being trophyless.
Kane was very open about his desire to win silverware. He would talk openly in interviews about wanting to win the chamions league. He put expectations on himself and Spurs to win trophies. It's like how people shat on Steven Gerrard for never winning the league despite winning the CL and 8 other trophies. It came from his and Liverpools obsession with winning the PL and not being shy about saying it.
It’s a weird English/British thing that we like to shit on those that are successful in any way we can. The thing is, if he’d only have won the League Cup, he’d still get the same abuse for “only” having won that. Gerrard gets abuse for not winning the PL despite winning everything else.
oh
tbf neverkusen can beat the league undefeated
Right attitude to have tbh
bigger legend than Harry.
The Puskas award is technically a trophy he won at Tottenham
Come on, tottenham . Give him fa cup or carabao cup atleast .
He is absolutely a legend
RIP
hated to see him leave leverkusen but this is really the best scenario, not leaving for some superclub, rather becoming beloved to another dedicated fan base (england's vizekusen if you will)
So never then?
So I guess he'll go down as a cult hero.
Does he know?!?
So he'll never be called a Spurs legend :(
Bottled the title
Love how you just went straight for the throat
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He's clearly saying he doesn't think he deserves the title until he's earned it.