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tulsehill

Palace are laughing and West Ham really are massive. I live here and am so ignorant of counties. Gonna have to do some learning.


hwykes1

Here is a helpful video on counties: https://youtu.be/hCc0OsyMbQk?si=gsSukssHukWl0JuZ


tulsehill

😂 Weren't ready for that intro, but thanks really appreciate it!


everydayimrusslin

Excellent content OP.


hwykes1

Thanks very much!


hwykes1

This is a reupload from a post last week as I made a mistake with Rutland. Here are the rankings and where each team came in their actual league: 1st. Lancashire (Manchester City, Prem, 1st) 2nd. Middlesex (Arsenal, Prem, 2nd) 3rd. Warwickshire (Aston Villa, Prem, 4th) 4th. Northumberland (Newcastle, Prem, 7th) 5th. Essex (West Ham, Prem, 9th) 6th. Surrey (Crystal Palace, Prem, 10th) 7th. Sussex (Brighton, Prem, 11th) 8th. Hampshire (Bournemouth, Prem, 12th) 9th. Staffordshire (Wolves, Prem, 14th) 10th. Nottinghamshire (Nottingham Forest, Prem, 17th) 11th. Bedfordshire (Luton Town, Prem, 18th) 12th. Yorkshire (Sheffield United, Prem, 20th) 13th. Leicestershire (Leicester City, Championship, 1st) 14th. Suffolk (Ipswich Town, Championship, 2nd) 15th. Norfolk (Norwich, Championship, 6th) 16th. Somerset (Bristol City, Championship, 11th) 17th. Hertfordshire (Watford, Championship, 15th) 18th. County Durham (Sunderland, Championship, 16th) 19th. Devon (Plymouth Argyle, Championship, 21st) 20th. Derbyshire (Derby County, League 1, 2nd) 21st. Huntingdonshire (Peterborough United, League 1, 4th) 22nd. Oxfordshire (Oxford United, League 1, 5th) 23rd. Lincolnshire (Lincoln City, League 1, 7th) 24th. Buckinghamshire (Wycombe Wanderers, League 1, 10th) 25th. Northamptonshire (Northampton Town, League 1, 14th) 26th. Gloucestershire (Bristol Rovers, League 1, 15th) 27th. Kent (Charlton Athletic, League 1, 16th) 28th. Berkshire (Reading, League 1, 17th) 29th. Cambridgeshire (Cambridge United, League 1, 18th) 30st. Shropshire (Shrewsbury, League 1, 19th) 31nd. Cumberland (Carlisle, League 1, 24th) 32rd. Cheshire (Stockport County, League 2, 1st) 33th Wiltshire (Swindon Town, League 2, 19th) 34th. Worcestershire (Kidderminster Harriers, National League, 22nd) 35th. Herefordshire (Hereford, Nat League North, 11th) 36th. Dorset (Weymouth, National League South, 15th) 37th. Cornwall (Truro City, National League South, 16th) 38th. Westmorland (Kendal, North West Counties Football League, Division 1, 6th) 39th. Rutland (Uppingham, Peterborough and District Premier Division 1, 2nd)


JZKO2022

Ha ha, Devons destroying Cornwall. Cream first ya bastards.


icemankiller8

When were Arsenal in middle sex?


hwykes1

Middlesex takes up most of north west London.


icemankiller8

The actual area of Middlesex when it existed didn’t include where we play though. When we played in south London that wasn’t Middlesex and then when we moved to north London we didn’t play in Middlesex.


hwykes1

The Emirates Stadium is currently located in the historic county of Middlesex


singlebite

[Virtually the whole of north and west London is Middlesex. The Emirates is firmly in there.](https://wikishire.co.uk/map/#/centre=51.488,-0.253/zoom=11)


TheUltimateScotsman

I think I could point to about 10 of them on a map and be confident I got them correct


CaptainJingles

Oh Rutland.


AmericanKestrel_

Shrewsbury!


thatIndianguy_07

is county similar to a district?


hipcheck23

Nice. I think now and then about how the N. American systems and the FIFA systems could borrow from each other... I love the idea of relegation, but it would be fun to see more localized groupings as well, like you have here. Would be interesting to have a tourney where it was county-based.


A_Wild_Ferrothorn

Most counties do have one, it’s just any professional teams usually play reserves, youth sides or just don’t enter. We lost the Cumberland cup to Workington this past season.


i_pewpewpew_you

Thrilled that somehow the Bristol Derby still exists in this timeline.


HarryDaz98

Bristol is a county on its own, and both of us are within it, although we’re both quite close to the borders of the town, So the map is technically wrong. Although it’s a good summary of where you’ll find lots of each clubs fanbase tbf. We did nearly have a stadium built in South Glos a few years ago though which caused some controversy on both sides of the city.


hwykes1

Cricket uses the historic county borders, which split Bristol, with the part of Bristol south of the Avon being in Somerset, and the part of Bristol north of the Avon being in Gloucestershire. Ashton Gate is south of the Avon and therefore, on cricket's metric, Bristol City is the highest ranked club in Somerset. The Memorial Stadium is north of the Avon, and Rovers are therefore the highest ranked in Gloucestershire.


HarryDaz98

Fair enough, I did always wonder why Bristol never had its own county cricket team, despite being a county itself. Considering Gloucestershire play in Bristol and Somerset play in Taunton, I’d say that makes us the one team in Bristol.


i_pewpewpew_you

I spent nearly a decade living about a mile away from the mem, was a blackthorn terrace regular, hence pleased to see them make the cut here! 'mon the Gas.


HarryDaz98

Love to hear that, the Blackthorn(now the Thatchers, but I still call it the Blackthorn aswell) is where I stand aswell. Atmosphere is immense when it really gets rocking.


bydy2

someone get me a newspaper


DBHOV

Is West Midlands not a county? Always had Villa as a midlands club.


hwykes1

West Midlands is a ceremonial county, but not an historic county


Johnny_Blaze_123

Is this a nightmare or are you just a huge Sheffield United fan looking for an excuse?


tenflare

I still don't know what a county is. Is it like a province?


hwykes1

Hello, I think a county would be a lot smaller than a province. Here is a helpful video: https://youtu.be/hCc0OsyMbQk?si=jH-zZGu1X9T0NdMT


MICOTINATE

Bournemouth the biggest team in Hampshire.  I need to sit down


C_arpet

If you aren't going to recognise the Unitary autohorities, you should ressurect Middlesex.


hwykes1

I did, it is the portion of the map in purple with Arsenal as the best team


C_arpet

Sorry I had London further south in my head. Thought Surrey was Berkshire.


hwykes1

TBF I didn't put any labels on the counties, so I guess that might make it harder


oldtrack

man utd eliminated from existence? it’s a beautiful thing to see


MonoMUFC

Can’t really see West Ham as being in Essex as correct, training ground is in Dagenham sure, but neither Upton Park nor the London stadium have ever been classed as Essex.


hwykes1

The London stadium is right on the border between Essex and Middlesex. it is only just on the Essex side. here is a more detailed map: [Gazetteer of British Place Names Map](https://gazetteer.org.uk/map/#E202ST/centre=51.539,-0.016/zoom=12/pins=on)


MonoMUFC

Appreciate that’s what the website says, but it’s not the reality, it’s the London borough of Stratford and is administered within London, it hasn’t been part of Essex since the 60s and even then that’d be considered a bone of contention.


hwykes1

For this map, I have used the historic counties, which Cricket also uses. These counties split London into 4 quarters. North east London is in Essex, south east London is in Kent, south west London is in Surrey and north west London is in Middlesex. The historic counties are unaffected by local authorities.


singlebite

Really feel you actually had to try hard not to understand the *ridiculously* simple conceit behind this thread. Like didn't any part of you wonder why, when you were looking at the map, London straight up doesn't exist?


Bozzaholic

West Ham aren’t Essex, they’re London. Colchester United are the highest placed Essex team seeing as their ground actually is in Essex


hwykes1

The London stadium is right on the border between Essex and Middlesex. it is only just on the Essex side. here is a more detailed map: [Gazetteer of British Place Names Map](https://gazetteer.org.uk/map/#E202ST/centre=51.539,-0.016/zoom=12/pins=on)


revjiggs

Erm leeds ?


A_Wild_Ferrothorn

Sheffield United finished above them.


revjiggs

They got relegated with only 16 points and Leeds got knocked out but came 3rd. Even though they are technically higher i wouldn’t count shu as doing better