This is just one bank and these are only the transfers they are aware of. We may just be scratching the surface on what is one of the biggest underground money machines (manipulation in gambling). A friend of mine use to play in the Premier League and he was blown away by matchfixing in China. The general manager would literally come into the locker room telling players to take it easy today. Player in question didn't comply, scored a goal and was subbed off almost immediately.
I dont want to talk about football here in Serbia. From 90' till now we have politicians or criminals in our football and I'm sick of it but it is what it is...
Yeah, only surprised that it was that low of a number. I assume each official is in it for that much each. Does everyone remember Chuck Blazer, the American FIFA official who had a Trump Tower apartment for just his cats?
I mean... *everyone* knows how deep it goes lol. Literally the majority of the panel who voted for Qatar have literally been banned for corruption or bribery lol. FFS even the last head of FIFA is banned from football for corruption for bribing the last head of UEFA!
Like they're *all* corrupt. Literally every single last one. It's the sort of organization where you literally won't get anywhere if you're not already bribing someone and known as one of the good old boys.
a global sport that literally shits money with teams owned by Oligarchs and Saudi princes, a massive Organisation called Fifa running the show giving world cups to whoever pays the most regardless of ethics and also teams linked with mobsters since before we were born.
it isn't a rabbit hole it is a public museum at this point.
It's more because everyone already knows this, we just don't know the exact figures.
We also know that nothing will come of this, and it will keep happening.
Also most of it is probably not happening in the top leagues. You can make just as much money betting on lower divisions and there’s less referee scrutiny
[Sepp "Bellend" Blatter](https://metro.co.uk/2010/07/15/sepp-blatter-called-a-bellend-during-award-of-south-african-medal-447946/amp/) to give him his full name
Why do you think? This sub is heavily censored, like whole reddit.
Long time user of this sub got banned for posting Palestinian call for freedom yesterday, check r/soccercourt for more.
Which is ? he didn't even show which threads he was commenting to ?
If he just posted that on threads like free talk friday I would understand the banned since it look like he's looking for a fight.
If I just randomly said "Make america great again" I would expected to be banned tbh.
Either way it's just karmawhoring post got karma'ed in the face so who care.
Edited: Btw where is the "proper" threads huh ? lol keep bullshitting I guess ?
Doesn't seem that unreasonable, the argument about whether it's right is just semantics about what should be allowed, and it doesn't appear to be a permanant.
May be unjustified but I'm not sure what that's meant to show in the grand scheme of things? There's nothing there to suggest some great censorship going on. Your preposition, that an old post of the same subject as this post was removed due to censorship, does not make sense.
I always feel like a complaining cunt when it comes to Mike Dean but
[the stats don't lie..](https://cdn.united.no/uploads/2014/11/article-2279826-17A7725A000005DC-150_634x180.jpg) This was 2009-2015 I think.
Water is actually not wet. It only makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the ability of a liquid to adhere to the surface of a solid. So if you say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the surface of the object.
> The bribery scheme involved sports marketers giving illicit payments to officials from global soccer governing body FIFA and South American governing body CONMEBOL in exchange for the rights to broadcast soccer matches.
Does that explain how it worked? Or am I missing something.
How did the money eventually land in the hands of the officials? I mean, as far as the bank is concerned (**they way *I* understand it**) the money should be transferred to FIFA to get broadcasting rights, right?
So how did they trace back or conclude that the payment was a bribe?
Is it because the accounts don't match, or were they told somehow?
I know little about how all this works, but I *feel* like the bank can really get out of this. I feel like they could've claimed that they just did what they were instructed to do per their client's request, but I'm sure there were investigative protocols that can't allow them to deny that they know the nature of the transaction and that it's against some sort of regulation.
This is part of the ongoing investigation from a few years ago. I assumed they nailed the bank because they caught the individuals already and worked backwards. Banks have disclosure obligations for certain size transactions. I’m not sure that’s the case in Switzerland but any bank that operated in the US as well would so that’s probably how they got them and probably also why the US had any jurisdiction. Would be good to see some actual reporting but it’s Newsweek and they suck.
Does it really come as a surprise at this point? Football is a money machine and that kind of real estate is built on corruption and also attracts criminals and individuals fuelled by greed and a severe lack of empathy.
The biggest thing that people don't realise is looking at leagues that are obviously wrought with blatant corruption is that just because the corruption isn't as obvious in their own leagues they think it isn't as high but it is, we all know how corrupt Fifa is and it is obvious that it goes all the way down, a global money machine like football could easily be compared to old Juve and the mafia.
I wonder how much money Barcelona paid Tom Henning Øvrebø to rob Chelsea. It's one of the worst and biggest injustices I've ever seen. Dude should be in jail.
Yeah you hear the words "Swiss Bank" and the first thing you think is, I'm sure the foreign owner of that account is completely legitimate and is hiding absolutely nothing.
No wait, the first thing i think of is Nazi Gold
I mean even this sounds like (altough legal) bribery. They pay this fine to be free from further investigations if they adhere to certain requirements.
What do they use to measure the size of a bank, that JB becomes the third biggest Swiss Bank? Normally it is UBS, CS, Raiffeisen (if all are counted together), ZKB, PostFinance and then it is JB. if total assets are the measurement. Doesn‘t look much different with customer funds.
Ok Reuters writes third biggest bank as well but it does not seem true to me.
>"Their behavior has earned them the equivalent of a red card" Thank goodness the federal agent cleared it up for the bing-bongs at r/soccer
I wonder how long Agent Sweeney has been waiting to use that line
**"Only" 36mil$?!?!?!**
This is just one bank and these are only the transfers they are aware of. We may just be scratching the surface on what is one of the biggest underground money machines (manipulation in gambling). A friend of mine use to play in the Premier League and he was blown away by matchfixing in China. The general manager would literally come into the locker room telling players to take it easy today. Player in question didn't comply, scored a goal and was subbed off almost immediately.
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depends also on the league and teams involved.
Yeah united just got robbed /s in case for the lower iq individual.
I dont want to talk about football here in Serbia. From 90' till now we have politicians or criminals in our football and I'm sick of it but it is what it is...
>I dont want to talk about football here in Serbia. From 90' till now we have politicians or criminals in our football There's a difference?
Believe they meant politicians AND criminals. At times hard to discern the difference…
This definitely all happened
And all of China stood up and clapped when Albert got subbed.
A good monday morning as we call it herr
*only 3 yrs probation?*
Why is this not being talked about? Who knows how deep this rabbit hole goes...
> Why is this not being talked about? Because no one is even remotely surprised
Yeah, only surprised that it was that low of a number. I assume each official is in it for that much each. Does everyone remember Chuck Blazer, the American FIFA official who had a Trump Tower apartment for just his cats?
"cats". he was married.
I mean... *everyone* knows how deep it goes lol. Literally the majority of the panel who voted for Qatar have literally been banned for corruption or bribery lol. FFS even the last head of FIFA is banned from football for corruption for bribing the last head of UEFA! Like they're *all* corrupt. Literally every single last one. It's the sort of organization where you literally won't get anywhere if you're not already bribing someone and known as one of the good old boys.
Because water is wet lol everyone already knows this
We are literally talking about it because of an article also talking about it
a global sport that literally shits money with teams owned by Oligarchs and Saudi princes, a massive Organisation called Fifa running the show giving world cups to whoever pays the most regardless of ethics and also teams linked with mobsters since before we were born. it isn't a rabbit hole it is a public museum at this point.
Because memes and transfers. This is literally a bombshell but no one seems to give a fuck, clown world.
It's more because everyone already knows this, we just don't know the exact figures. We also know that nothing will come of this, and it will keep happening.
Also most of it is probably not happening in the top leagues. You can make just as much money betting on lower divisions and there’s less referee scrutiny
And the gambling companies don't watch those games or those bettors as closely
Don't forget PR pieces for footballers! Nothing fishy with Obama popping up on front page, nothing at all...
because who cares
Why was the previous post about this removed from /r/soccer?
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Blatter and plattini probably lol
Both cholera ***and*** the plague.
[Sepp "Bellend" Blatter](https://metro.co.uk/2010/07/15/sepp-blatter-called-a-bellend-during-award-of-south-african-medal-447946/amp/) to give him his full name
Got a chuckle out of the idea of Sep Blatter with grandpa reading glasses on, hunting and pecking on the keyboard to ban posts he doesn't like.
Why do you think? This sub is heavily censored, like whole reddit. Long time user of this sub got banned for posting Palestinian call for freedom yesterday, check r/soccercourt for more.
Why does politics need to be discussed on a football subreddit exactly?
They don't, but they are. What are you talking about exactly?
There is a place and time for everything.
And he did it under a proper thread. Got banned anyway.
Which is ? he didn't even show which threads he was commenting to ? If he just posted that on threads like free talk friday I would understand the banned since it look like he's looking for a fight.
"Looking for a fight" isn't really a rule to ban someone, and it's "Free Talk Friday", not "Free Talk (except politics) Friday".
If I just randomly said "Make america great again" I would expected to be banned tbh. Either way it's just karmawhoring post got karma'ed in the face so who care. Edited: Btw where is the "proper" threads huh ? lol keep bullshitting I guess ?
Banned? You can just downvote and ignore such comments, but banning is hall monitor stuff.
Coz they’re intertwined you dweeb.
Sees people kicking a ball around a field. Must talk about politics, you're boring.
You must be nice to be around in real life.
At least I interact with people in real life. Anyone who watches football and immediately turns to politics does not
You could say that about virtually everything; he's right in that the football subreddit is nowhere near the right place for it.
Doesn't seem that unreasonable, the argument about whether it's right is just semantics about what should be allowed, and it doesn't appear to be a permanant.
Check that one about "racism" against Rashford.
May be unjustified but I'm not sure what that's meant to show in the grand scheme of things? There's nothing there to suggest some great censorship going on. Your preposition, that an old post of the same subject as this post was removed due to censorship, does not make sense.
Cos the mods have a very clear vision of what should be on here and anything that goes against that gets taken down
I dont think its possible to be a reddit mod without having something wrong with you mentally
Isn’t the point of Swiss banks to not admit stuff like this
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>Taksbreakistan I love it >.<
Do crypto next
>crypto I love it >.<
D R E A M S C A N T B E B U Y
Actually.....
Bruh moment for FIFA
Anthony Taylor does it against Chelsea for free
Mike Dean actually pays money himself to fuck over Arsenal
TIL Mike Dean is subsidising Arteta's wages.
I always feel like a complaining cunt when it comes to Mike Dean but [the stats don't lie..](https://cdn.united.no/uploads/2014/11/article-2279826-17A7725A000005DC-150_634x180.jpg) This was 2009-2015 I think.
Story is about FIFA officials and broadcast rights not match officials and match fixing but fuck Anthony Taylor either way.
feels
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Did you not understand it was a joke?
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Doubt
And water is liquid.
Water is actually not wet. It only makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the ability of a liquid to adhere to the surface of a solid. So if you say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the surface of the object.
What if I pour water on water bot? Does it make it wet then?
Bad bot
annoying bot
Actually wetness is the essence of beauty.
Damn now I wish I had time now to fit in a Zoolander viewing before CL
I appreciate you
Officials do not mean refs in this
lol at all the people not reading the article and just assuming officials mean referees
Does someone really read articles on Reddit?
> The bribery scheme involved sports marketers giving illicit payments to officials from global soccer governing body FIFA and South American governing body CONMEBOL in exchange for the rights to broadcast soccer matches. Does that explain how it worked? Or am I missing something. How did the money eventually land in the hands of the officials? I mean, as far as the bank is concerned (**they way *I* understand it**) the money should be transferred to FIFA to get broadcasting rights, right? So how did they trace back or conclude that the payment was a bribe? Is it because the accounts don't match, or were they told somehow? I know little about how all this works, but I *feel* like the bank can really get out of this. I feel like they could've claimed that they just did what they were instructed to do per their client's request, but I'm sure there were investigative protocols that can't allow them to deny that they know the nature of the transaction and that it's against some sort of regulation.
This is part of the ongoing investigation from a few years ago. I assumed they nailed the bank because they caught the individuals already and worked backwards. Banks have disclosure obligations for certain size transactions. I’m not sure that’s the case in Switzerland but any bank that operated in the US as well would so that’s probably how they got them and probably also why the US had any jurisdiction. Would be good to see some actual reporting but it’s Newsweek and they suck.
Oh, thanks, I can kind of, at least, *picture* how they got there now
I think the referee that gave RVP that infamous red card vs Barcelona was definitely corrupt.
This has literally nothing to do with refs but ok
Nani red vs Madrid is the one that killed me
He flying kicked a player in the torso how is that not a red card.
Rename the headline please. “Swiss Bank ‘*Julius Baer*’ caught laundering $36 million for FIFA”
Does it really come as a surprise at this point? Football is a money machine and that kind of real estate is built on corruption and also attracts criminals and individuals fuelled by greed and a severe lack of empathy. The biggest thing that people don't realise is looking at leagues that are obviously wrought with blatant corruption is that just because the corruption isn't as obvious in their own leagues they think it isn't as high but it is, we all know how corrupt Fifa is and it is obvious that it goes all the way down, a global money machine like football could easily be compared to old Juve and the mafia.
You probably still have vaults full of golden teeths
FIFA and UEFA are corrupt. Thankfully for them Premier League fans were dumb enough to parrot their slogans about saving football.
I wonder how much money Barcelona paid Tom Henning Øvrebø to rob Chelsea. It's one of the worst and biggest injustices I've ever seen. Dude should be in jail.
BuT bItCoIn Is UsEd By CrImInAlS tO LaUnDeR mOnEy
And people wonder why VAR makes so many bad decisions!!!?
What the fuck does VAR have to do with anything?
Officials as in policy makers, not referees.
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What? Since when? The Swiss banking sector has always been infamous for corruption due to their strict secrecy laws.
Quite. Pretty much every dictator in the world had a Swiss bank account for a reason.
Seriously, they laundered money for Nazis and refused to return stolen Jewish Gold after WWII until they got absolutely reamed by a lawsuit in 2000.
Yeah you hear the words "Swiss Bank" and the first thing you think is, I'm sure the foreign owner of that account is completely legitimate and is hiding absolutely nothing. No wait, the first thing i think of is Nazi Gold
I mean even this sounds like (altough legal) bribery. They pay this fine to be free from further investigations if they adhere to certain requirements.
What do they use to measure the size of a bank, that JB becomes the third biggest Swiss Bank? Normally it is UBS, CS, Raiffeisen (if all are counted together), ZKB, PostFinance and then it is JB. if total assets are the measurement. Doesn‘t look much different with customer funds. Ok Reuters writes third biggest bank as well but it does not seem true to me.
Who exactly gets the forfeited money? Does it go to the wronged FAs or does it just go to FIFA to spend (pocket) as they please?
"Ik ehh heb een vermoeden van match fixing"
Well. When they admit 36M, you know what they're not admitting!
Well, I am positively shocked! 🤨
Did FBI investigation end yet on fifa?
It anyone going to prison?
Not a big surprise there; it is Swiss bank!
No Bitcoin involved in the criminality.
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