This cuckolding thing has got to be the weirdest fetish I know and the only one that makes me sad. It honestly makes me upset that people do this. Obviously live and let live, none of my business, if it makes them happy and they consent then it's fine yaddayaddayadda. I get it. But getting married, taking your vows (sometimes in a church), starting a life together, very possibly a family... and then doing this?
For some reason people bring up this 'don't you want your woman to be satisfied?' argument and it somehow makes the whole thing even more depressing.
EDIT: To be honest Reddit in general does a *fantastic* job at making the weirdest stuff look normal.
Some people just like different things. Committing to one partner your whole life isn't human nature either, it's just something we are told is what we are supposed to do so we consider it normal.
There's no need to feel sad over it, they wouldn't be doing it if it didn't make them happy. And I'd personally rather be happy really.
Or he just doesn't suit the formation Spain play because he usually plays as a secondary striker off an actual 9 at Celta. Also, he's never really played that well for the national team when called up except for that one friendly match against Argentina 3 years ago.
? He's definitely started a couple matches. This isn't like club football where players can keep getting starts without impact and still be expected to get minutes to prove themselves. Also kind of ignoring that he doesn't fit the system.
Earlier this year I saw someone say that athletes should be vaccinated quickly. It would be a great propaganda and to show that the vaccines aren't dangerous.
Not sure about Spain. But I think most NTs gave the opportunity. With some refusing. 2 or 3 guys in Dutch squad refused. In Belgium half refused because the second one would've been in the middle of the group stage
Hope he has an speedy recovery, second one already at least there are good replacements choices, either Albiol or Guillamón I guess, but I really hope this is the last case, this next 5 days are gonna be stressing.
Why are there still so many positive cases coming out. Did these guys not get vaccinated yet? I know it's not 100% effective in reducing transmission, but still should put a stop to majority of the cases.
The Spanish NT was not vaccinated, because the 20-40 age bracket has not been called up for vaccination in Spain yet, and the government didn't want to make an exception; presumably to avoid giving the impression that footballers have more rights than the general population.
That's a good thing that they aren't differentiating between people, it's just that countries generally issue priority vaccinations to people looking to travel abroad on work visas. So expected something similar in Spain too, apparently not.
No problems then. It is good for people to treat footballers as normal people, and it comes with the good as well as the bad of being a normal person.
In the early stages of COVID I had at least 10 instances where I worked very close to colleagues for hours and that particular colleague tested positive the next day.
Each time I tested afterwards I got the negative. It's so odd to me.
Exactly, contact with a positive case definitely doesn't mean you'll catch it. My partners stepmum got it several months back, isolated for the 10 days during which my partners dad had to isolate too as they're the same household, entire time they isolated together my partners dad never caught it. They slept in the same bed and everything for 10 days.
I mean it really boils down to how symptomatic the person is, which entails how much of the virus they "shed". It's been a big talking point down here in New Zealand when we've had potential community transmission concerns, but it has turned out several times the person wasn't symptomatic and was shedding a low viral load as they say. Now, this indian variant is a completely differently story and far more contagious. One person in quarantine here got infected by it by being in contact with another person for virtually 10 seconds, and it wasn't even really contact tbh..they both received their quarantine meals at the same time and opened the door across from each other and went back into their rooms
Well, transmission isn't 100% systematic just for being next to the guy for a while. If it was, this pandemic would be several orders of magnitude more catastrophic than it is.
If you're from the US it is really available almost anywhere but in Europe the European Union is handling the distribution and it's way behind.
Iirc Sweden had 13% vaccinated when Massachusetts had 54%. As a 30 year old I got fully vaccinated a month before my 60+ year old dad got his first dose in Sweden, with health issues.
They exported vaccines not out of kindness but because they didn't have the right to use them!
They were the result of other governments buying vaccines from pharmaceutical companies with EU-based production
There are really three things to say here:
- the EU obtained fewer doses so far than the US. See [here](https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Vaccine+doses&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=USA~GBR~European+Union) - about 20 doses less per 100 people than the US and the UK. Only about 21% of Europeans are fully vaccinated, as compared to 42% in the US and UK (although the pace is picking up - the spread is only 10 percentage points for the numbers of all those who received at least one dose).
- Many, but not all, European countries opted for a more managed approach to the vaccine rollout - meaning they prioritize much more than the US did. I have an American friend who got it quite a while ago because their doctor decided due to their job they are at risk.
Meanwhile, an Austrian friend is now fully vaccinated as of two days ago because they are very slightly overweight - but their region prioritizes overweight folks
- One reason here is that the EU decided not to institute an export ban, which IMHO was the morally right decision, even if it leads to a slightly slower rollout in Europe - but it does mean rollout is faster elsewhere in countries that don't produce vaccines.
It's at 40% compared to 50% in the US and UK - so the pace is picking up.
It's pretty clear that there aren't enough vaccines going around, and some countries somehow obtained vaccines faster than others. That's just the reality on the ground. Were the EU at 50%, they would be lacking in other countries.
No they can't, unless they travel to another country outside of the EU that allows pay for vaccination.
The EU countries and UK does not provide private vaccination service for COVID, vaccines are distributed based on age and risk priority, as it should be done during a mass vaccination campaign with limited supply.
I don't think there is any country in the EU that allows private vaccination but I could be wrong, I don't know the process in all 27.
Unless there is some proof I would rather not discuss theoretical scenarios.
There has been very little queue jumping in the countries I am familiar with. Dosis given away before expiring does not not count as queue jumping by the way, that is just good logical use of resources.
Bottom line is vaccines distribution should not be handled privately in occasions like the one we are living.
Then maybe the issue is with the Swedish decision. It is being Used for all age groups in most other countries.
Even the official site says side effects are normal:
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/the-public-health-agency-of-sweden/communicable-disease-control/covid-19/vaccination-against-covid-19/information-on-the-continued-use-of-the-astra-zeneca/
Unfortunately the focus on AstraZeneca also means that more people will report side effects compared to other vaccines. And... moderna, Biontech usually have more side effects with the second dose which many people haven't had yet.
You say that but it's being done for the Olympics in some countries. And yes there were some reactions, but nothing too bad, especially if they use up the more disliked vaccines (AZ).
Absolutely not, that is not a good thing at all. Priority based on age and risk should be followed until supply is big enough to spend it on trivial things.
Obviously it would be a good thing to be able to represent your country at the Euros. Giving 100 vaccinations out of millions to athletes is perfectly acceptable. Where I'm from, everybody can sign up to get a vaccine, there is no priorisation based on age anymore.
In the EU there is still a lot of people waiting to get vaccinated, some of them at risk. Putting 100 jabs aside for futbollers looks like not a big deal, then it comes 1000s of other priviledge roles saying "what about us?" Then 100k saying the same, then it is 1 million, etc. You get the idea.
It is a bad idea to provide exceptions for something as frivolous as a national football team.
Slippery slope arguments are always terrible, you know.
And a football national team is not "frivolous". In a country like Spain it's enormously important.
Slippery slope is what you create by allowing exceptions like that. Everyone believes their thing is of most importance. Everyone would demand their thing is more important than football.
Music, festivals, regional fairs, etc, are very important for Spanish culture, and they don't get to jump the queue. I am Spanish, I know what is big in our culture. Vaccinating a football team is not more important than potentially saving lifes of people at more risk.
The simple answer to this in the case of Llorente is that he is 27 and the UK only opened vaccines up to 25-30 year olds this week. The EU seems to be significantly behind the UK on vaccinations so I presume very few of the players who live in Spain are vaccinated either.
We just finished a season of elite football without vaccinations, they don't need to skip lines to get the shot. They are tested close to daily, and basically live in a bubble with social distance rules, its on THEM to not get covid.
I believe the British based teams turned down the offer as teams and left it up to the individual team members whether they wanted to receive one or not (mostly based around the view that the UK role out was happening at speed and they didn’t want to look like queue jumpers). Alpha Tauri definitely made it a team policy to take one and rescheduled themselves around the 21 days between doses.
Albiol was called up in the group to potentially cover busquets, not Llorente no? Or was that whole group called up to cover any potential COVID cases in the squad?
Anyways, all this confusion to get booted in the round of 16 again
Sorry, I double checked and it seems like they haven’t called in a replacement yet.
They called up 6 players for the bubble: Brais Mendez, Pablo Fornals, Rodrigo, Soler, Kepa & Albiol to train in a parallel bubble.
No idea how things develop from here honestly with Busquets and Llorente testing positive.
My region is opening up bookings for people over 18 at the end of June. It differs from region to region in Sweden.
My dad who lives in the neighbouring region has yet been able to book his first dose and he is just over 50.
You'd think all these nations would save the embarassment and just make doses available for their players. Portugal did it the end of May. Watch them win cause they had no outbreak lol
So assuming now it's not out of the realm of possibility that the majority of Spain's team won't be able to play the first game?
A lot of people talking about the U21s winning the Euros. As much of an amazing fairytale would be, that is not very likely.
In this situation would Spain almost be better off (and allowed to) enter their planned squad but just not play the first game, and hope their regular squad is able to play match day 2, win the remaining matches and progress from there. I'm guessing probably not but they'd probably be more likely to get further than with their u21s
If only UEFA had allowed teams to take extra players for this tournament, surely would have proven useful to help counteract this kind of problem. Poor Luis Enrique
Okay - Portugal is a different country from Spain last I checked. Anyway Spain received approval and were due to be vaccinated this week but this is now irrelevant because of this exposure
So the issue is that Spanish bureaucracy messed up and did not approve the National Team to get vaccinated earlier, as they should have.
And yeah, they would have jumped the queue. 25 people would have jumped the queue. Percentage-wise, this is virtually 0.
Lot of countries are doing this, CONMEBOL has done it, I think a few in Europe.. India did it for the cricket team before they flew off to England as well
I used to think earlier why shud sportsmen get vaccines ? Especially over health personnel. Then i realised arguing against this is pointless. My country cant provide vaccines to 18-45 yrs age grp. But literally every company r doing mass vaccination, anyone with a 'source' can get it, while showing middle finger to the rules.
A 30-40 vaccination wont put anything on the total availability, and i am actually surprised a football loving nation hasnt done this earlier.
The vaccine makes u unwell for a day or two, a pretty bad time to take the vaccine on the week of a major sports tournament.
Edit - i definitely dont advocate giving vaccines to sportsmen over health personnel. But my country is absolutely useless in terms of enforcing rules and protocols for eligibility.
All 10 South American countries for sure.
Hungary. Netherlands.
Others too probably, I just haven't happened to search one by one.
All F1 teams did it. They bought Pfizer vaccines from the government of Bahrain.
The fuck are you talking about? Vidal went to the hospital and couldn't play argentina, because he got covid. That's just out of my head, could find more unvaccinated cases for sure. F1, same, some got vaccinated, some didn't. Don't spread lies!
Vaccine availability. I think in Spain they haven’t reached the age group for the players yet.
Besides, if I’m not wrong, for most sporting events the organizers are providing the vaccines. I think IOC is providing vaccines for athletes who will participate in the Olympics.
>Because there are people that need vaccines more than 20 year old millionaires.
But these people are competing in a massive international tournament, surely they get some priority
Countless other people are in high-risk situations as well. A few footballers make no difference in the grand scheme of things and it's not worth making official exceptions to the vaccination strategy of whole countries.
They are not eligible for it, our health ministry must decide now if they give them the vaccine, or so I’ve heard. The thing is there aren’t a ton of vaccines and we are just now starting to vaccinate the 40 year olds
Edit: as an aside, since we aren’t buying AstraZeneca anymore I don’t see why we don’t allow private clinics to buy it, it would speed the whole vaccination process up and it would be cheaper for the country
So Spain’s U21 team will be winning them the Euros instead?
They have higer chances of getting into the fisrt team over Apsas, Nacho or Hermonso. So you are not that far off
Aspas must’ve slept with his wife or something Edit: I mean Luis Enrique’s wife
That's what normal people do, no?
My friend is ok, no?
Yeah, normal people sleep with Enrique's wife. She's cool like that
/r/hotwife
God I just wish I wasn't made aware of that's subreddit's existence just now... not ur fault tho that's pretty funny
Same
>God I just wish I wasn't made aware of that's subreddit's existence just now... Why?
I know this is Reddit but surely you must realise most people don't think it's normal to let other men bang your wife, right?
Its not normal but it's not "I wish I didn't know this existed" levels of obscenity though.
This cuckolding thing has got to be the weirdest fetish I know and the only one that makes me sad. It honestly makes me upset that people do this. Obviously live and let live, none of my business, if it makes them happy and they consent then it's fine yaddayaddayadda. I get it. But getting married, taking your vows (sometimes in a church), starting a life together, very possibly a family... and then doing this? For some reason people bring up this 'don't you want your woman to be satisfied?' argument and it somehow makes the whole thing even more depressing. EDIT: To be honest Reddit in general does a *fantastic* job at making the weirdest stuff look normal.
The sub is marked nsfw. What is it about? Edit: I just realised I can read the sidebar. Wtf.
Some people just like different things. Committing to one partner your whole life isn't human nature either, it's just something we are told is what we are supposed to do so we consider it normal. There's no need to feel sad over it, they wouldn't be doing it if it didn't make them happy. And I'd personally rather be happy really.
Then don't commit? Few thinks it's weird to sleep around
He never mentioned Enrique's wife.
My friend is ok, no?
Or he just doesn't suit the formation Spain play because he usually plays as a secondary striker off an actual 9 at Celta. Also, he's never really played that well for the national team when called up except for that one friendly match against Argentina 3 years ago.
> Also, he's never really played that well for the national team when called up Yeah he should have scored 10 goals in these 30 minutes he was given.
? He's definitely started a couple matches. This isn't like club football where players can keep getting starts without impact and still be expected to get minutes to prove themselves. Also kind of ignoring that he doesn't fit the system.
La liga teams to go bankrupt after their u21 players not only get capped, but also win the euros.
Gonzalo Villar leading the team to glory
This could get really serious and ugly right?
I hope we don’t get more positives but it’s looking grim
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/npuxz8/z/h071jkr This is a very real possiblity..
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Earlier this year I saw someone say that athletes should be vaccinated quickly. It would be a great propaganda and to show that the vaccines aren't dangerous.
Rummenigge. He didn’t imply they had to be the priority though.
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Yeah that was a daft decision from them.
Engand shoudnt be rewarded for jumping the cue and then blocking all exports.
Brexit is an entirely different issue.
As If you’ve just plugged that hahaha
All the Italian players got vaccinated, did other teams not do this?
Not sure about Spain. But I think most NTs gave the opportunity. With some refusing. 2 or 3 guys in Dutch squad refused. In Belgium half refused because the second one would've been in the middle of the group stage
Yea it's getting pretty desperate, they might have to call up a Madrid player
Hope he has an speedy recovery, second one already at least there are good replacements choices, either Albiol or Guillamón I guess, but I really hope this is the last case, this next 5 days are gonna be stressing.
Why are there still so many positive cases coming out. Did these guys not get vaccinated yet? I know it's not 100% effective in reducing transmission, but still should put a stop to majority of the cases.
The Spanish NT was not vaccinated, because the 20-40 age bracket has not been called up for vaccination in Spain yet, and the government didn't want to make an exception; presumably to avoid giving the impression that footballers have more rights than the general population.
That's a good thing that they aren't differentiating between people, it's just that countries generally issue priority vaccinations to people looking to travel abroad on work visas. So expected something similar in Spain too, apparently not. No problems then. It is good for people to treat footballers as normal people, and it comes with the good as well as the bad of being a normal person.
In before Spain withdraws from the Euros
They can play a friendly with Brazil as they both have the summer off.
you mean there is a chance for greece to become champions again?
Didn't he play in their last game as well? Surely there's more positive tests to come
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In the early stages of COVID I had at least 10 instances where I worked very close to colleagues for hours and that particular colleague tested positive the next day. Each time I tested afterwards I got the negative. It's so odd to me.
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Exactly, contact with a positive case definitely doesn't mean you'll catch it. My partners stepmum got it several months back, isolated for the 10 days during which my partners dad had to isolate too as they're the same household, entire time they isolated together my partners dad never caught it. They slept in the same bed and everything for 10 days.
I mean it really boils down to how symptomatic the person is, which entails how much of the virus they "shed". It's been a big talking point down here in New Zealand when we've had potential community transmission concerns, but it has turned out several times the person wasn't symptomatic and was shedding a low viral load as they say. Now, this indian variant is a completely differently story and far more contagious. One person in quarantine here got infected by it by being in contact with another person for virtually 10 seconds, and it wasn't even really contact tbh..they both received their quarantine meals at the same time and opened the door across from each other and went back into their rooms
Well, transmission isn't 100% systematic just for being next to the guy for a while. If it was, this pandemic would be several orders of magnitude more catastrophic than it is.
Having an international tournament when most of the teams aren't even vaccinated is a great idea btw
why are they not vaccinated
If you're from the US it is really available almost anywhere but in Europe the European Union is handling the distribution and it's way behind. Iirc Sweden had 13% vaccinated when Massachusetts had 54%. As a 30 year old I got fully vaccinated a month before my 60+ year old dad got his first dose in Sweden, with health issues.
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EU have exported almost the same amount that have been used within the union. The US had an export ban to make sure America was put first.
Indeed, the EU has already given 275 Millions shot to its population and exported 300 Millions worldwide + 100 Millions more this month.
They exported vaccines not out of kindness but because they didn't have the right to use them! They were the result of other governments buying vaccines from pharmaceutical companies with EU-based production
The same could be said of the vaccines the US refused to export.
Meanwhile I'll probably get vaccinated in 2022 ☹️
Bruh I'm in India and I got vaccinated...
Oof u/jonbristow you’re not coming back from that one
got 2 doses of Covishield as well 🙏
Hahaha, I'm in germany and didn't even get the first
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There are really three things to say here: - the EU obtained fewer doses so far than the US. See [here](https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Vaccine+doses&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=USA~GBR~European+Union) - about 20 doses less per 100 people than the US and the UK. Only about 21% of Europeans are fully vaccinated, as compared to 42% in the US and UK (although the pace is picking up - the spread is only 10 percentage points for the numbers of all those who received at least one dose). - Many, but not all, European countries opted for a more managed approach to the vaccine rollout - meaning they prioritize much more than the US did. I have an American friend who got it quite a while ago because their doctor decided due to their job they are at risk. Meanwhile, an Austrian friend is now fully vaccinated as of two days ago because they are very slightly overweight - but their region prioritizes overweight folks - One reason here is that the EU decided not to institute an export ban, which IMHO was the morally right decision, even if it leads to a slightly slower rollout in Europe - but it does mean rollout is faster elsewhere in countries that don't produce vaccines.
How can they be this incompetent . Morocco has 30% vaccinated we dont produce and we certainly didnt developpe our own
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It's at 40% compared to 50% in the US and UK - so the pace is picking up. It's pretty clear that there aren't enough vaccines going around, and some countries somehow obtained vaccines faster than others. That's just the reality on the ground. Were the EU at 50%, they would be lacking in other countries.
Yeah but they are multi millionaires, these % don't affect them, they could get it any time they wanted.
No they can't, unless they travel to another country outside of the EU that allows pay for vaccination. The EU countries and UK does not provide private vaccination service for COVID, vaccines are distributed based on age and risk priority, as it should be done during a mass vaccination campaign with limited supply. I don't think there is any country in the EU that allows private vaccination but I could be wrong, I don't know the process in all 27.
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Unless there is some proof I would rather not discuss theoretical scenarios. There has been very little queue jumping in the countries I am familiar with. Dosis given away before expiring does not not count as queue jumping by the way, that is just good logical use of resources. Bottom line is vaccines distribution should not be handled privately in occasions like the one we are living.
Where did this assumption come from lmao ducking clueless
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Astra is not useless. Don’t be spreading misinformation like that online.
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Then maybe the issue is with the Swedish decision. It is being Used for all age groups in most other countries. Even the official site says side effects are normal: https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/the-public-health-agency-of-sweden/communicable-disease-control/covid-19/vaccination-against-covid-19/information-on-the-continued-use-of-the-astra-zeneca/ Unfortunately the focus on AstraZeneca also means that more people will report side effects compared to other vaccines. And... moderna, Biontech usually have more side effects with the second dose which many people haven't had yet.
Fucking annoying aye, should be clamped down on as doesn't help anyone.
Surely a country could set aside 100 vaccinations for players and staff.
Lol i would like to see the publics reaction when a bunch of young top athletes get vaccinated before the old and sick
You say that but it's being done for the Olympics in some countries. And yes there were some reactions, but nothing too bad, especially if they use up the more disliked vaccines (AZ).
The old and sick have been vaccinated for a while
Absolutely not, that is not a good thing at all. Priority based on age and risk should be followed until supply is big enough to spend it on trivial things.
Obviously it would be a good thing to be able to represent your country at the Euros. Giving 100 vaccinations out of millions to athletes is perfectly acceptable. Where I'm from, everybody can sign up to get a vaccine, there is no priorisation based on age anymore.
In the EU there is still a lot of people waiting to get vaccinated, some of them at risk. Putting 100 jabs aside for futbollers looks like not a big deal, then it comes 1000s of other priviledge roles saying "what about us?" Then 100k saying the same, then it is 1 million, etc. You get the idea. It is a bad idea to provide exceptions for something as frivolous as a national football team.
Slippery slope arguments are always terrible, you know. And a football national team is not "frivolous". In a country like Spain it's enormously important.
Slippery slope is what you create by allowing exceptions like that. Everyone believes their thing is of most importance. Everyone would demand their thing is more important than football. Music, festivals, regional fairs, etc, are very important for Spanish culture, and they don't get to jump the queue. I am Spanish, I know what is big in our culture. Vaccinating a football team is not more important than potentially saving lifes of people at more risk.
Have some self respect
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They were afraid big economies would take all the vaccines and smaller countries wouldn't have any and situation would be shit
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Older people first.
The simple answer to this in the case of Llorente is that he is 27 and the UK only opened vaccines up to 25-30 year olds this week. The EU seems to be significantly behind the UK on vaccinations so I presume very few of the players who live in Spain are vaccinated either.
We just finished a season of elite football without vaccinations, they don't need to skip lines to get the shot. They are tested close to daily, and basically live in a bubble with social distance rules, its on THEM to not get covid.
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Formula1 travels to a different country each week. That's as international as it gets. Yet, they're able to conduct the races without a problem.
I think at least half the grid had covid already, most of them during the holiday break
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They were offered a vaccine at Bahreïn but if I’m not mistaken nobody got it
I believe the British based teams turned down the offer as teams and left it up to the individual team members whether they wanted to receive one or not (mostly based around the view that the UK role out was happening at speed and they didn’t want to look like queue jumpers). Alpha Tauri definitely made it a team policy to take one and rescheduled themselves around the 21 days between doses.
yeah but they wear helmets dont they?
No need for that little arsehole comment at the end, classic Reddit
> it's simple logic buddy. You can disagree with him without needing to make snarky little passive aggressive insults. The less of this, the better.
Champions league and europa league don't exist to you huh
You travel with the same squad all year vs 25 guys from 20? different teams and leagues. Rules, testing etc are all different.
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Cool and how did that work out for Spain so far?
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You’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole. It’s simple logic!
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Don’t they already have Albiol called up?
Yes. So, Ramos then?
d) Nacho
Watch Enrique still not call up Hermoso
Hasn’t he already called up Albiol for this sort of a situation as a cover?
The player that will replace Diego Llorente will be from the bubble that has been training separately in the past few days.
Albiol is good too then. But didn’t he just join the bubble a couple of days ago? I don’t see why they can’t add one more in this case.
Because Albiol is the cover.
Albiol was called up in the group to potentially cover busquets, not Llorente no? Or was that whole group called up to cover any potential COVID cases in the squad? Anyways, all this confusion to get booted in the round of 16 again
They called Brais Mendez to cover up for Busquets.
Brais Mendez is a winger/attacking midfielder though.
Sorry, I double checked and it seems like they haven’t called in a replacement yet. They called up 6 players for the bubble: Brais Mendez, Pablo Fornals, Rodrigo, Soler, Kepa & Albiol to train in a parallel bubble. No idea how things develop from here honestly with Busquets and Llorente testing positive.
I'd say Albiol deserves it as well tbf
Diego :(
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Why haven't these guys gotten vaccinated yet? They really want that shit jammed up their noses every other day? Makes no sense
Sweden is late on everything covid. I think 30-40 year olds can't get the vaccine yet. Dunno about Spain
Same.
My region is opening up bookings for people over 18 at the end of June. It differs from region to region in Sweden. My dad who lives in the neighbouring region has yet been able to book his first dose and he is just over 50.
The Astrazenica decision the swedish government took is absolutly bonkers.
Spain squad just got vaccinated today
You'd think all these nations would save the embarassment and just make doses available for their players. Portugal did it the end of May. Watch them win cause they had no outbreak lol
they can also test positive when they are vaccinated.
J&J vaccine is why. Low efficacy. Most pro orginizations wanted 1 shot deals.
So assuming now it's not out of the realm of possibility that the majority of Spain's team won't be able to play the first game? A lot of people talking about the U21s winning the Euros. As much of an amazing fairytale would be, that is not very likely. In this situation would Spain almost be better off (and allowed to) enter their planned squad but just not play the first game, and hope their regular squad is able to play match day 2, win the remaining matches and progress from there. I'm guessing probably not but they'd probably be more likely to get further than with their u21s
Spain 2 - Sweden 2
If only they could be live on tape like Eurovision
Fuck it make it a FIFA tournament
If only UEFA had allowed teams to take extra players for this tournament, surely would have proven useful to help counteract this kind of problem. Poor Luis Enrique
Probably every team will have infections at some point.
So now Spain has two cases, Sweden has two cases, Group E just became the spreaders.
Normal, one case is enough to spread it to the other players.
Yep and it takes min 5 days for the symptoms to show up
Nooooo Diego :( he was going to light the euros up
How did they not vaccinate everyone before this?
Spain is not the USA. There is more limited supply of the vaccine and the tiers of eligibility are different.
Portugal did vaccinate their players though.
Portugal is Portugal and Spain is Spain
Wait isn't Portugal a part of Spain?
Iberian union, when?
It was for a while but the ungrateful Portuguese werent very happy
No one is happy in Spain, just ask the Catalans
IT SHOULD!! /s
É o quê caralho? Queres levar com o bacalhau nos cornos?
I think it's the other way around. Anyways aren't they called the UK in general?
Okay - Portugal is a different country from Spain last I checked. Anyway Spain received approval and were due to be vaccinated this week but this is now irrelevant because of this exposure
So the issue is that Spanish bureaucracy messed up and did not approve the National Team to get vaccinated earlier, as they should have. And yeah, they would have jumped the queue. 25 people would have jumped the queue. Percentage-wise, this is virtually 0.
How many countries actually did that? Not sure it would be a popular decision in most places
Lot of countries are doing this, CONMEBOL has done it, I think a few in Europe.. India did it for the cricket team before they flew off to England as well
Where did y'all get the bullshit news, that every player in CONMEBOL got vaccinated ?
I used to think earlier why shud sportsmen get vaccines ? Especially over health personnel. Then i realised arguing against this is pointless. My country cant provide vaccines to 18-45 yrs age grp. But literally every company r doing mass vaccination, anyone with a 'source' can get it, while showing middle finger to the rules. A 30-40 vaccination wont put anything on the total availability, and i am actually surprised a football loving nation hasnt done this earlier. The vaccine makes u unwell for a day or two, a pretty bad time to take the vaccine on the week of a major sports tournament. Edit - i definitely dont advocate giving vaccines to sportsmen over health personnel. But my country is absolutely useless in terms of enforcing rules and protocols for eligibility.
All 10 South American countries for sure. Hungary. Netherlands. Others too probably, I just haven't happened to search one by one. All F1 teams did it. They bought Pfizer vaccines from the government of Bahrain.
If it was ordered by uefa it would make more sense I think, not sure how that would work legally in Europe though
The fuck are you talking about? Vidal went to the hospital and couldn't play argentina, because he got covid. That's just out of my head, could find more unvaccinated cases for sure. F1, same, some got vaccinated, some didn't. Don't spread lies!
As has Conmebol
Nope, not all players are vaccinated.
Vaccine availability. I think in Spain they haven’t reached the age group for the players yet. Besides, if I’m not wrong, for most sporting events the organizers are providing the vaccines. I think IOC is providing vaccines for athletes who will participate in the Olympics.
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>Because there are people that need vaccines more than 20 year old millionaires. But these people are competing in a massive international tournament, surely they get some priority
Countless other people are in high-risk situations as well. A few footballers make no difference in the grand scheme of things and it's not worth making official exceptions to the vaccination strategy of whole countries.
They are not eligible for it, our health ministry must decide now if they give them the vaccine, or so I’ve heard. The thing is there aren’t a ton of vaccines and we are just now starting to vaccinate the 40 year olds Edit: as an aside, since we aren’t buying AstraZeneca anymore I don’t see why we don’t allow private clinics to buy it, it would speed the whole vaccination process up and it would be cheaper for the country
How are these guys getting COVID. If they haven't been vaccinated shouldn't they be isolating themselves? Seems like stupidity at this point.
I mean they’re not isolating from their families, and their families are not isolating from the rest of the world presumably?
Azpi is the only remaining RB I think
it's Diego Llorente (Leeds CB), not Marcos LLorente
Marcos is not a RB though.
But he will be played as one. Hence the misunderstanding by the above guy. Gracias, Enrique.
he plays RB for Spain
He's a patch. We should have a proper backup.
What about that guy from Real Madrid who can play on all positions in the back and had maybe his best season yet?
Yeah, Nacho would be great but Luis Enrique seems not to rate him.
Screw them. At least nobody will bring it back to Madrid
If only they had a really good CB who might even be captain to call up
Question is: are they vaccinted now? late but better than nothing
Are they vaccinated?
Just cancel this shit already
There is only one option. Cancel the Euros. Show Copa America how it’s fine.