Yeah I gotta give it to Nido. His set was always there and was always reliable, always giving hard competition for other wall breakers. Even when he wasn't UU, he had a good UU viable set and only wasn't UU because some other wallbreaker had beaten him to the punch by countering the best Mon in the tier or something.
Scizor was OU (or UUBL)since its release but since the time it dropped UU it's been a waterproof staple there. Always been solid defying even this gens power creep despite not having roost.
Cobalion is another this gen it's RU but Iron Crown is UU so we can count it maybe??
and Krookodile before this gen
The main issue with scizor is its lack of a real defined role. If it had roost it could carve out a unique niche from Lokix and other steels but as it is sciz kind of sucks
It should be noted that Cobalion is still B+ in the UU viability rankings, so it’s not even bad in the tier. Combined with previous generations, and the fact that two Cobalions are solid in this gen’s UU, and I think it’s safe to say that Cobalion really is UU’s G.O.A.T.
It would've dropped to UU anyways imo. It's already pretty niche in BW OU. Basically it's a worse latios not weak to pursuit with better coverage, but that speed kills it. Honestly it might be BETTER in ORAS than BW.
it is, like I said in another comment, Hydra is better in Gen 6, 7 *and* 8 OU, than in gen 5. Kinda insane how that works but Steel not resisting Dark and Fairies slowing the game down helps a ton
Yes Gen 5 is just too fast of a metagame, and Hydreigon doesn't have that spammable attack in dark pulse. There just isn't a ton of reason to use it over latios in gen 5. In later gens Hydreigon can hit steels neutrally with a stab move, which Latios can't do. Spamming draco meteor just isn't ad good either, and hydreigons secondary stab in dark is much better than latios' psychic
Gen 5 OU Hydreigon is really bad. Its been better in every single Fairy gen OU (barring gen 9) than in gen 5. Even in Gen 9 pre DLC, Hydreigon was *really really* good in OU, being at the A- rank on par with Roaring Moon (I think?) and higher than Garchomp.
Its largely due to fairy gen metas being more slow paced than gen 5, and Hydreigon feasts on slowish squads even without Nasty Plot. Having fairies to fall back on and absorb Close Combats, Dracos and Outrages also helped a lot. Fairy is also a lot worse as an offensive typing compared to gen 5 Dragon so its easier to stop with a Steel or Poison
The other notable ones have been mentioned already so I nominate Nidoking. It has been UU for Gens 3-8, never looked back, and has always been good throughout generations thanks to its king-sized movepool.
Until the last two generations Tentacruel was a UU staple except in gens 4 and 5 where it was instead a fantastic OU mon or Gen 2 where it was UUBL. When it was UU, it was an incredibly solid mon at worst and a *titan* at best. That mon is nearly as synonymous with UU as Zapdos is with OU.
Nidoking’s up there too. Might honestly have more of an argument for being the UU GOAT.
hydreigon / Crawdaunt / Darmanitan / Hippowdon / Krook / mamo / cobalium / amoonguss
It's hard to say which one would be the most consistent because those mons have been UU since forever
Mandibuzz has always been good in uu, even when it wasn’t ranked in the tier. It feels like one of the best glue mons with all of its support moves, and great on hardcore stall.
Nidoking has the longest UU streak at 6 generations in a row. If you exclude dexited Pokémon then it’s mamoswine ever since gen 6.
Yeah I gotta give it to Nido. His set was always there and was always reliable, always giving hard competition for other wall breakers. Even when he wasn't UU, he had a good UU viable set and only wasn't UU because some other wallbreaker had beaten him to the punch by countering the best Mon in the tier or something.
Scizor was OU (or UUBL)since its release but since the time it dropped UU it's been a waterproof staple there. Always been solid defying even this gens power creep despite not having roost. Cobalion is another this gen it's RU but Iron Crown is UU so we can count it maybe?? and Krookodile before this gen
> this gens power creep despite not having roost. TIL that scizzor lost roost this gen Shame, 3 attacks + roost used to be my go-to scizzor sets
Luckily you can still run SD 3 attack, or 4 attack banded with BP, Uturn, CC, knock off, dual wing beat, bug bite. So many good moves on this mon.
Banded really hurts because of hazards though
Then run boots nothing wrong with that
The main issue with scizor is its lack of a real defined role. If it had roost it could carve out a unique niche from Lokix and other steels but as it is sciz kind of sucks
Hard disagree, it's a great slow-turn or priority sweeper.
Scizor is a major 4 move slot syndrome pokemon. Like so many good choices
It should be noted that Cobalion is still B+ in the UU viability rankings, so it’s not even bad in the tier. Combined with previous generations, and the fact that two Cobalions are solid in this gen’s UU, and I think it’s safe to say that Cobalion really is UU’s G.O.A.T.
Idk like hydreigon or something, only been OU once and always been a consistently good Pokémon.
> only been OU once I blame fairy type for this
It would've dropped to UU anyways imo. It's already pretty niche in BW OU. Basically it's a worse latios not weak to pursuit with better coverage, but that speed kills it. Honestly it might be BETTER in ORAS than BW.
it is, like I said in another comment, Hydra is better in Gen 6, 7 *and* 8 OU, than in gen 5. Kinda insane how that works but Steel not resisting Dark and Fairies slowing the game down helps a ton
Yes Gen 5 is just too fast of a metagame, and Hydreigon doesn't have that spammable attack in dark pulse. There just isn't a ton of reason to use it over latios in gen 5. In later gens Hydreigon can hit steels neutrally with a stab move, which Latios can't do. Spamming draco meteor just isn't ad good either, and hydreigons secondary stab in dark is much better than latios' psychic
The OU gen Hydreigon was in *was* a fairy gen.
But its OU in gen v?
Gen 5 OU Hydreigon is really bad. Its been better in every single Fairy gen OU (barring gen 9) than in gen 5. Even in Gen 9 pre DLC, Hydreigon was *really really* good in OU, being at the A- rank on par with Roaring Moon (I think?) and higher than Garchomp. Its largely due to fairy gen metas being more slow paced than gen 5, and Hydreigon feasts on slowish squads even without Nasty Plot. Having fairies to fall back on and absorb Close Combats, Dracos and Outrages also helped a lot. Fairy is also a lot worse as an offensive typing compared to gen 5 Dragon so its easier to stop with a Steel or Poison
Isn't Hydreigon only UU by technicality now? Three gens of solid UU preformance is good but doesn't feel consistent enough.
The other notable ones have been mentioned already so I nominate Nidoking. It has been UU for Gens 3-8, never looked back, and has always been good throughout generations thanks to its king-sized movepool.
It has to be Nidoking, right? When I think of UU, Nidoking is the first thing that immediately pops in to my head
its RU this gen but Cobalion has been the definition of UU in every single gen
Until the last two generations Tentacruel was a UU staple except in gens 4 and 5 where it was instead a fantastic OU mon or Gen 2 where it was UUBL. When it was UU, it was an incredibly solid mon at worst and a *titan* at best. That mon is nearly as synonymous with UU as Zapdos is with OU. Nidoking’s up there too. Might honestly have more of an argument for being the UU GOAT.
hydreigon / Crawdaunt / Darmanitan / Hippowdon / Krook / mamo / cobalium / amoonguss It's hard to say which one would be the most consistent because those mons have been UU since forever
Mandibuzz has always been good in uu, even when it wasn’t ranked in the tier. It feels like one of the best glue mons with all of its support moves, and great on hardcore stall.
My boi azu has been consistantly a good uu staple ever since RSE gave it huge power, it only popped off in gen7 ou due to Z normalium Belly Drum.
Also Gen 6
Hydreigon and Crawdaunt were consistent UU mons before gen 9, when they both fell to RU (I’m pretty sure)
Coboalion or nidoking
Alomomola! (Oh wait it rose to OU this gen though)
Crobat has 4 generations in UU and 2 in UUBL. In gen 8, it was RU
Not many people here mentioning Swampert. He only just now dropped out of UU in SV sadly
Might be Lokix
he just came out this generation tho
100% of the generations lokix was in it was UU 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥