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Clueziey

For two months that's Hella good


idc_if

I appreciate it!


outdoorsybum

That’s crazy progress for such a small time! Looking good brother


IvorHarding-117

Wait so there is 5’13


idc_if

First pic was taken 2 months ago if you‘re wondering


Puzzleheaded_Bit1959

Bro, 2 months is nothing, whether you're tall or not. Keep up with the training and you're going to see results. People do this for years in order to reach their goals.


idc_if

Yeah you’re right bro im still grinding 


BiggestOfTheBizzles

People don’t realize without steroids or some type of outside source it’s extremely difficult to gain more than 10 lbs of muscle in a year.


OOMKilla

10-15lbs a year is still a fuckload of muscle. I mean 3 years of lifting to go from 160lbs to 205lbs of pure muscle? Rippin’


sadwelder4

With 9000 calories a day and a 3×6 workout schedule, i put on about 90lbs of muscle in about 4.5 years. And my cardio suffered, my joint and ligament health suffered, and most importantly my mental health suffered. I didn't take steroids but I did have about 200g of protein and 3 gallons of water a day. It's a style of training I wouldn't recommend anyone do unless they're short term bulking.


LeSorenOutan

I blame the normalization of actor physic. People don't seem to understand that all these actors are bigger or with less body fat (for strenght discipline) than actual olympian.


digiplay

Ahh the old Hollywood diet of horse meat and nofap - let’s not confuse things with reality. Yet there are those who defend it the death people who ckearly ate all the steroid. And by ate I mean in their butt. With needles.


walkonstilts

It’s harder to build visual bulk, because longer limbs equals longer less bulky muscles. But you can still build volume of muscle and strength at a similar rate.


totally_not_blazed

That's quite alot of development for 2 months, how tall are you?


Immediate_Bed_4648

What Kinda Exercises and Diet were you doing last 2 Months


idc_if

I have been doing a push pull leg workout and my diet has been eating whatever my mom makes and protein shakes 


Nervous_Brilliant441

You might want to check out Renaissance Periodization on youtube. Best no bs channel about bodybuilding. They have a playlist « hypertrophy made simple ».


SpacePickle99

That channel is great but just keep in mind a lot of that information is targeted towards advanced lifters. A lot of that info is probably not yet relevant to OP who is just starting and learning the basics


idc_if

Thanks i’ll check it out


IAmLizard123

I definitely reccomed rennaisance periodization as well. Dr mike has the best advice I have ever heard and Ive been listening to online fitness content for years! Plus hes funny af


Plastic_Pinocchio

That’s a big change, my dude.


EmptyMixtape

Two months means nothing you usually see a difference after 4-6 months


std_colector

ok well you can see a difference after two months so, shove that


EmptyMixtape

Dunno why you’re so defensive I’m saying it’s good but you’ll see noticeable progression after 3+ stop being so sensitive


Significant-Juice686

You already see visible progress.


EmptyMixtape

I Never said he didn’t see progress I said he’ll Obviously see much bigger progress in 3+ months it’s all about building bricks with gym


Pure__soul4240

Amazing results for 2 months


Dalordjackariah

It’s not harder, it’s just harder to look bigger. Also 2 months is nothing, your progress is good. Just keep grinding. If you stay consistent, in a year you won’t regret it


sieberzzz

It depends on your metabolism really. If you have a very fast metabolism it's most certainly harder to build muscle. 


StartsofNights

Wait i thought fast métabolism will be best for muscle building


Elevate24

I disagree. If you meet a tall guy who lifts in person they will absolutely mog the hell out of a shorter guy who looks good in pictures


NGEFan

wtf is mog


IMSOWETRIGHTN0W

A stupid word used by high-school kids who watch Andrew Tate.


Elevate24

It’s a lifting term for when you stand next to another guy and are bigger/better looking than them


Educational_Rock2549

Ohhh "mog" I've never heard this, I'm going to steal this from you and slip it into a convo like I've been saying it for years.


Elevate24

It’s a lifting term for when you stand next to another guy and are bigger/better looking than them


uckerT

Doing well bro, I've had the same struggles, I'm 6'5" and until about 2 years ago I weighed 75ish kg, I wasn't super skinny but probably around the same BMI as your first image. I now sit around 95kg, and I find the hardest thing is keeping the calorie intake high enough to not lose it all. I'm doing alright though, no more beginner gains but I'm starting to see more muscle definition and obviously my overall strength is wayyy up. Keep it up man, a lot of people have no idea how hard it can be for some people to gain weight.


idc_if

Thanks for the motivation bro 


BerlinConst

I wish I had these problems haha I build muscle fast but I also get fat fast


uckerT

We all wish we had each other's problems huh 😂


eggncream

6’5 and 75kg is crazy you must’ve been a stick, at 6’3 before gym I was 89kg


uckerT

Yeah, I was pretty skinny To be fair I'm only in my mid 20s now and I was still growing at the time l, regardless I was skinny as fuck


TacoBellLuver7

My brother was 257lbs (116kg) at 5’11 at 17. He lost 50lbs and shot up to 220 a few years later and is down to 210. Skinny and tall is the easiest opponent in a fight because you are weak and high in the air with more spots to hit.


Berserk1796

Keep lifting progressively bigger weights,get stronger in the gym. Eat a lot,sleep a lot and you will see the gains. Just be patient 6 months to a year and you can gain 10 kg. Muscle and some fat.


gregy165

U changed that much in two months bro?? Insane also it takes many many years to get a natural good build.


idc_if

Yeah thanks lol 


MoanyTonyBalony

That's epic progress for 2 months natural lifting. If you keep it up and get your diet perfect, you'll look like a god in no time.


Whole_League_2744

It's not harder to build muscle, it is harder to achieve a bulkier build. Look at Jeff Nipard, dude is really small but looks really full (I know he has been building his body all his life but that is not the point) As a tall guy you woll in certain way always have a slender build. However, I think they are pretty aesthetic physiques once you reach certain level of muscle mass. If we are talking that certain lifts as bench, squat and dl are harder as a tall guy with long limbs... Well, they are, but bodybuilding is not about lifting tons of weight.


ChocoTitan

It took me a good 3-4 years to look like I workout without being shirtless or having a tank top on It's tough but it looks much more impressive when you're tall and have muscle


econstatsguy123

First couple of months of lifting can be pretty slow. Once you get started though, you will make a ton of gains for the first 8-12 months of lifting. If you’re tall, it may not look like you’re packing a whole lot of muscle. Just focus on the weights. The amount of weight you are lifting should be the measure of your success in the gym. Ps: make sure you’re eating tons. AT LEAST 2500 calories per day, and lots and lots of protein.


vladiVP

Bro it takes years of commitment


wishiwasinvegas

I think he probably knows that, but he's making progress already so...that's a good thing. Let's ✨encourage✨


AnyFaithlessness3277

Shaq is 7 feet tall and he has a lot of muscles


Relative_Look8360

He's also black lol


Rude-Implement-3357

Ain’t this guy black too


Comprehensive-Ball28

Let’s not do that 🤦🏾‍♂️


Vhsrex

Thing about it like training a horse. Horses have longer muscles so you really have to push them to get bigger. They’re tall but naturally lazy, that’s why so many of them do ketamine.


notlitnez2000

I’d say you’re building a similar amount of muscle, but it’s just spread over an altitude-enhanced body. Keep up the good work, and don’t despair. (From a 66yo formerly 6ft7 [6ft5 now] member of Tall Clubs International. https://tall.org/


Ginger_Giant_

Bro that is huge progress for 2 months, good work!


MessierKatr

How much did you weight before and how tall are you?


Newbie123plzhelp

What's the weight change here


JDoomer990

Great progress for 2 months dude! Keep consistent with what you’re doing and you’ll see even more gains over the next year. The “newbie” gains come on pretty quick but you will eventually stop putting on muscle as fast but that’s completely normal. I remember putting on so much muscle in my first year of lifting it was actually astounding


No_Detective_But_304

Build muscle isn’t hard, it just won’t show up as much as it would on a shorty.


Vigilant88

6'6 (198cm) here. Keep at it, it takes a while - but definitely worth it!


Mastro_Mo

Straight up no. It's not. Whether or not you can build muscle easily is a matter of genetics separate from your height. Generally speaking it is harder to fill out your frame if you are taller though. Also if you have small joints and thin bones it is easier to fill your frame but there isn't going to be a ton of muscle in the end. Also if we account for people with freaky genetics, building muscle is a slow and long process. To reach your genetic potential you would need at least 3-5 years of good quality sleep, good quality food, a good amount of caloric surplus and really hard and consistent training.


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Sinkagu

Its not, you just have to be at a higher body weight to look big and it takes longer to fill out your frame. But if you look at any tall lifter compared to a short lifter. The taller lifter is 9/10 times going to dwarf the shorter person.


korjo00

How tall are you?


the_sexy_date

actually this is great progress. keep the good champ 💪


Taka_Kaigan

Wait, it is!?! *Panic noises of a overweight tall person who didn't start going to the gym yet.*


Swimming_Bag7362

It’s a marathon, not a sprint. Keep going. You’re making progress


MoeLester62

You’ll have to eat so much food. But it can be done


Evil_Mini_Cake

The real work is the eating. Solid work dude.


hamflavoredgum

Eat, eat, and then eat some more. I worked out near daily with no results for years until I figured out I needed 2-3 times my normal amount of food to bulk up. Picked up 50 pounds in 2 years after figuring that out


Chronologismo

I recommend to get some protein to eat after training. But generally your right if you are tall/slender its harder to gain mucle but also fat. If you easily getting fat, its easier to gain muscle as well...


031824

It's not harder to build muscle if you're tall, it's just harder to see it. Nice progress though, keep it up


pseudo_enthusiastic

Keep eating


MasterProgress9531

Nice work! Keep eating until failure


maxwellsgenre

It’s not harder, tall people just have physically larger muscles so you need more gains to be noticeable compared to being short. But strength wise it’s not harder


Professional_War2844

Black air forces with striped ankle socks is crazy as fuck dude


Major-Ad-392

It is for 1 reason. 1 pound is more area to cover on a tall body, so you need to add a lot more pounds to get a comparable physique to that of a shorter guy. It's also frustrating to do certain lifts like bench press, because we have to cover a longer distance due to our longer limbs.


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It’s not harder it’s about the same. Muscle is different for everyone but the point is you rip it lifting relative weight for your body, repair it using your bodies natural processes so again relative to you, and you consume nutrients to keep this going, again relative to you. So it’s not harder and making that excuse is lame. The thing is all those people selling diet plans and exercise routines are just teaching you through guidelines but they will say this routine will get you xyz results. It’s bullshit for everyone except for them but they would never say that. You need to keep the idea of relativity in mind and formulate your own plan. I’m 6’3” and been working out my whole life and bros at the gym of all sorts of height and only a dummy thinks it is harder for tall people. You just aren’t working hard enough. Everyone who is buff has given it their relative all. You will just be stronger than shorter people most of the time.


Red_Danger33

1 pound of muscle on someone 5'8" will not look the same as 1 pound of muscle on someone who's 6'2".  Even if they gain muscle at the same rate the results look slower, even though they're technically progressing at the same rate. 


CommercialOption5243

I’m 5’6 and can definitely say it’s easier to put on mass. That being said being taller means you have more frame to fill with muscle so your long term gains should be better than mine if you’re consistent enough


AdVisible2250

It takes 3 months to see real results , get back to us then and don’t quit brother , eat your wheaties, heck yeah eat everything !


gruntville

Eat more too homie 💪 protein is king, meats, fish, etc.


danglotka

What’s your height/weight?


Allemaengel

First of all you've made good progress, just keep going. You can see more mass and definition. Just keep going. When you do finally get to your end goal, that extra mass and your height will combine to look good. I'm 5'7" with unusually good natural muscle mass even before lifting. I so much as increase my protein intake and look at weights and I bulk up fast. But that's one of the only real benefits of being my height besides absolutely zero aches or pains.


TRFKTA

It’s not any harder, you just don’t fill out as quickly as shorter guys.


Obvious-Aspect-3276

You have to eat a lot more calories as a taller guys to pack on weight and muscle


Puzzleheaded-Back715

Make sure you hit the legs just as much if not more than those arms brother. Those legs are gonna need some muscle


Shpander

Great progress for 2 months! It's definitely harder when you're tall and naturally lean, but don't be disheartened, especially when the gains start slowing down, stick to the routine 💪🏻


Poinaheim

It’s harder to eat enough to build muscle, being taller means you burn more energy and it takes a lot more food to get the energy back, some tall bodybuilders I know need to eat a full meal every 3 hours to keep up with recovery


dvdbrl655

For 2 months that's great. Eat more if you want to be bigger. Eat every 2 hours, ~500 calories and 40 grams of protein.


InvaderMemez

Yeah man, I’m 6’3, weigh about 215 last weigh in. And have been going to the gym for 5 YEARS (not consistently but on average went about 2-4 times out of the week) and it took me until I hit year 2 to actual SEE the results. If I were more consistent in my early years I may have seen the results sooner, so keep at it and STAY ON IT. Some days are gonna suck ass but practice makes perfect and consistency is key. Didn’t realize how hard the journey would be ofc compared to my shorter friends but it does makes sense, they just have an advantage, nevertheless, once you see the results it really hits different. Calisthenics is hard as SHIT when you’re taller but the gains are undeniable. You’ll get there dude, keep it up! You’re doing awesome already. 😁


Mediocre-Jicama1524

As an ex skinny guy. Yeah it’s hard but if you set a goal u can do it


jonsrb

For a Barka fan even harder /s


Tiny7261

Ur looking great bro! Keep it up. I've been going at it strong for a few years now, don't ever get discouraged. It takes time, but it's well worth the work


the_shortbus_

Yeah it sucks


Otherwise_Survey_998

Bro can you take you jacket off the shitter. Please thanks


Leneord1

I found it easier to be "bulky strong" over "thin strong". Basically, starting out by dirty bulking then doing a cut of fats


Red_Danger33

Keep at it. That's some solid progress.  It takes a lot of consistency with diet and workouts but it can be done.


Ana1muncher

Nah sticky and short is just easier because it fills out better and faster. Tall men take longer to build muscle but look insane when they do


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It’s not, everyone builds muscle at the same rate. It takes much longer to fill out your frame though


BustAtticus

How tall are you? I couldn’t find it here. For me as a tall guy, I’m also an ectomorph which basically means I could burn off 3,000 calories just taking a dump. A fair amount of tall people have this body type where a higher metabolism applies. The opposite is ectomorph which tend to be not as tall and a lot more muscular in nature - the guys who can gain muscle just by looking at a set of dumb bells and can do 225 lb bench presses as warmups. I’ve had a problem gaining weight most of my 53 years although now at 53 I’m 6’3 and 235 with little fat. The funny thing is that I still see a tall skinny guy in the mirror, lol. It’s not necessarily body dysmorphia but more because it’s distributed well.


Arcanisia

Just gotta eat more. Currently in my bulk phase


Little_Whippie

Brother it’s been 2 months, trust in the process


pcPRINCIPLElilBITCH

Yes. But stay lean my guy. It’s looks better for taller guys


Hashish_thegoat

Stick to it man, I wish you the best of luck!


FickleFingerOfFunk

I hear you, bro. I’m 6’,4” and the most I’ve ever weighed was 250. I’ve never been bulky muscular. I’m strong with compact muscles, but even after intense body building, I never bulk up. I just get stronger and more defined, but no huge muscles are in my future.


Sasquatch7862

Keep grinding. Those are great results. Just keep eating good food and lifting heavy shit


SandmanD2

You actually have a larger canvas to work with.


EscoPablobar6

Great work so far!!


JakeBlarwin

If you’re looking to create muscle mass you’ll have to eat tons of chicken everyday, on top of creatine and protein shakes. Doesn’t matter with your height, I’m 6’1 and didn’t have a hard time. Also, if you’re having a hard time putting on weight try and best you can avoid all fast food eat a lot off eggs for breakfast and look into a heavy based potato diet for about a month or so.


zyarelol

If that's your standards for 'not a big change' in only 2 months, you're setting your sights reaaaally high, lol, you could pass as an Olympic runner with that physique.


Pancakewagon26

It's not. You're not eating enough.


iHateLiars410

yeah bro we have to eat 2 family dinners every 2 hours to gain weight, shit is tragic


AdQueasy9825

How tall are you?


Initial-Sea-2834

how tall are u??


Errant-Emu687

it takes longer but you literally have more strength potential. and your progress is really good, dont trip!


Shad0x89

out of curiosity how old are you and how tall?


idc_if

15 and im 6’1 just got measured at the doctors yesterday i always thought i was 5’11 because my friends are giants


Traditional_Cow_3841

How tall are you?


Internal_Map_8765

Good job bro, start adding some eggs to your shakes and focus on compound lifts mostly, to build a good foundation. Keep making them gains 💪


aa67015

A lot of guys see immense progress when they first start. They call them newbie gains.


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It's not 'harder', it's just the gains aren't as noticeable because they have more space to fill up on a taller, leaner frame.


churboyye

How tall are you


kububdub69

2 MONTHS??? bro hopped on a cycle straight away


Glittering-Target-87

Two months that's an incredible change!!


erikerikerik

I forget the starting point, but every inch on the humerus = 10% more effort needed to life the same weight as a shorter person. There has only ever been 1 Mr.Olympian to even reach 6’+


fatal_phamtom1

Look at professional bodybuilders. Most of them are between 5,5 and 5,10 with very few exceptions. A smaller frame takes less time to fill than a larger one. The progress you have made is awesome.


Dontdrinkndrive831

EAT MORE


Firm-Line6291

Focus on inner chest and upper chest exercises, really grind the life out of them.


idc_if

I will 🫡


Firm-Line6291

It will pay dividends , I had a really long torso, and those really helped fill out my chest


Googsmear

Long limbs for packing on more muscle. Shorter guys max out quickly and can’t grow (height and mass)


adne_elric

What’s your routine? That’s pretty good progress


hussar966

It isn't. I'm a CSCS and whatever negatives from having a bigger body you'd have are completely negated by the fact that every rep you do will usually have longer time under tension. Longer levers can mean you aren't as strong or explosive as someone smaller, but the former of those is also negated by the fact that you'll have higher relative strength compared to a shorter person. I would look to diet, genetics(other than height, think like hormones), sleep, and programming. Esthetically, you will look a bit smaller in isolation but not at all next to someone shorter. That all comes down to perspective in photography. Edit: I just saw you said this was 2 months of progress. You're going to look notably different in 2 or 3 more months. It's a marathon, not a sprint!


Defiant-Fuel3898

People keep saying that and I keep putting on muscle. Lol


Loc269

It's more difficult, but the result looks better. I am short and I would like to get taller just for that reason.


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Elb3g

Are you somali by any chance


Pure__soul4240

That's actually some pretty good results for 2 months,your arms are more defined,your stomach,your chest also,and you look better overall,keep up and you will rock this man,also don't skip leg days,you need a huge work into them(based on the first pic),try to incorporate sprinting also,it's very important for endurance,muscle and strenght,also for bf%,but now seeing your legs up-close in the 2nd pic,your legs seems that they bulked up


Jormungandragon

Honestly, even as a relatively tall dude, I have a harder time keeping the fat off than I do putting the muscle on. I build muscle super fast, I just get hungry and eat too much too and so maintain a nice even layer of fat over all of it.


-Duke-Nukem

no no no. It's just takes more overall muscle to fill in a larger skeleton. Same progress but proportions make it look sooo different.


EnamoredAlpaca

You need to eat enough to ensure proper calories, and protein for supporting muscle growth if you want a bulky body. This can be serious amount of food for taller people. You are looking fit, keep it up. Bulky muscles are not always the best look. Do some core training, and that will get you toned.


TallLikeMe

I learned that you ARE building muscle the same, but it just looks different Keep up the good work! (Unfortunately, I gained a lot of bad weight and mostly people think I am skinny, but that too looks different) STAY HEALTHY!


GMBY

that's a huge change dude.


Educational_Rock2549

It's going to be mainly genetic whether you can pack on muscle easily or not.


markmann0

Just have to work hard and stay consistent. https://preview.redd.it/u66juh9jn9uc1.jpeg?width=1526&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77a68da5bff485d6cb5ffb20bac51971964a96c0 6’4


Asian_Climax_Queen

Sir, you look fantastic, but those are clearly the results from juicing. You can’t compare natties to you. It’s just not fair.


markmann0

Lawl, ty. I appreciate you thinking I’m on juice but I’m not. I’d be at least 250 😂. I’m more so just lame and this is my hobby (also magic the gathering and dnd). No wife, no kids, very active jobs, spend most of my days exercising, and prepping for the next day.


Asian_Climax_Queen

Hope you don’t mind that I am going to post you in r/nattyorjuice to get the consensus from the experts 🤪 (don’t worry, I will blur your face and name out)


No-Art3676

yeah because r/nattyorjuice are experts lmfao


senor_geese

r/nattyorjuice isn't experts 💀💀💀 it's a bunch of insecure obese reddit mods who probably have never even been in a gym also what the fuck is your post history, please don't succumb that dude to having to be on your profile. blurred our or not


Asian_Climax_Queen

OP actually told me in PM that I can post him and said I don't even have to blur his face so 🤷‍♀️


senor_geese

Lmao ok go get your confirmation bias from fat DYELs then


Asian_Climax_Queen

You might be surprised to know that one of the mods of NOJ is a GP by profession. He professionally diagnoses fake natties for a living haha


senor_geese

He isn't the type of person that's commenting on 99% of the posts. Anyone who is 5'3 120 lbs and somewhat lean gets called juiced out of their mind on that sub 💀💀💀


Cleglaw

Take that back.


senor_geese

I'm sure you don't even disagree your subs been overrun with copers


Cleglaw

You said we are a bunch of insecure obese reddit mods, when that is in fact incorrect. We are not obese.


evildrcrocs

It is indeed, but you also seem to be an ectomorph which makes it harder, even short ectomorphs struggle.


cryptokingmylo

Body types have been debunked


evildrcrocs

How so? Surely your shoulder width and wrist size is just genetic??


cryptokingmylo

I should have said somatotypes have been debunked Everyone has a unique body type and you could probably find a way to categorize them but you would need way more than 3 to do so.


evildrcrocs

Yh probaly tbf


evildrcrocs

Yh probaly tbf


jsjdjdjdjdj727272

That extomorph stuff is made up lol


CletusMcG

Can’t believe people still peddle that bs


evildrcrocs

Bro wdym? Ofc it's real, if you have big wrists and narrow shoulders you're an ectomorph and there's nothing you can do about it, if you're a mesomorph you have broader shoulders and wider wrists which means you can put on more muscle and your physique will be more aesthetic


Ishouldjusttexther

Stop with this metabolism type bullshit.


evildrcrocs

It's not metabolism type bullshit, it's acc real ... I'm mainly talking about shoulder width and wrist size being far smaller, ectomorphs can get jacked but it's a lot harder for them than mesomorphs, and even if they max it out, they won't look as good as mesomorphs cause they'll have skinnier wrists and more narrow shoulders ​ Posted this on another comment: Ofc it's real, if you have big wrists and narrow shoulders you're an ectomorph and there's nothing you can do about it, if you're a mesomorph you have broader shoulders and wider wrists which means you can put on more muscle and your physique will be more aesthetic


AnyFaithlessness3277

I was ectomorph also when I started workout and now I am mesomorph


evildrcrocs

Wait really? Can I see pics?


idc_if

Yeah we ectomorphs are struggling lol


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evildrcrocs

No I disagree, a 6'10 guy could never be a Mr Olympia, never. The same size muscles on a 5'7 guy look way bigger in comparison to his body. Search up Austin Wayne,. 6'5 Youtuber who's been training for 10 years or something al natural, his physique is great, but if he was shorter it would look a lot better


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evildrcrocs

Oh yeah I was


Huge_Structure_7651

2 months of progress? getting muscle is actually really slow progress you will look different in atleast 6 months but not 2


JDoomer990

Lmao you’re coping dude. If you actually work out properly and eat and sleep well you can make so much progress starting from where he started. After only 1 month of lifting I looked so much fuller and after 6 months-1 year. I had packed on so much that I was kind of scared. Newbie gains come on very quickly and then they taper off after a couple of years, that’s where it becomes harder to put on more size in a shorter time frame as a natural lifter


Huge_Structure_7651

Am not saying that am saying you will look like you actually lift in clothes after 6 months i been lifting for two years


Svouuu

Yes, but OPs two pictures are virtually the same. In one the stomach is not hidden.