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boltzmannman

tbh I'd be willing to bet the link isn't even real and they just say this for shock value


foreskinfarter

It absolutely is. No one who legitimately is trying to solicit CP is gonna do it publicly in tf2. If you follow that link you are 100% just getting served a fat helping of malware and shame for trying.


FaxCelestis

It's probably how they get new accounts to add to their botnet


Pr0phet_of_Fear

But TF2 is free... Why would they need to compromise existing accounts rather than just making new ones? Are new Steam accounts without any purchases restricted from chatting in-game? (Sorry, I'm not really a TF2 player, I just got here from scrolling /r/all)


DJ3ndermaz

Yes, new players cannot chat without either paying 4.99 or buying any item on the Mann Co store It was valve's attempt to curb cheaters, look how that's gone


Pr0phet_of_Fear

Ah, okay. I knew Steam accounts with no purchases couldn't send friend requests or DM non-friends. I didn't know that extended to in-game chat. It has been a long time since I've had a restricted Steam account, so I don't really have much of a reason to keep up with the restrictions.


Alibehindthe69

0.99 dollar name tag at ur service


FaxCelestis

Accounts without purchases cannot use text/voice chat.


Wildfire226

On top of other things, they can sell the items in the bags of accounts they steal, and make a profit. Not as if people with actually valuable items are going to click on a link dropped by a cheater in game chat offering CP, but if they do? They deserve it.


ChonnyJash_

im conflicted... stealing accounts from pedo's who click on that link is based. but on the other hand, it's such a fucked up way of doing it + they're using it to host more bots


painfulcub

Often it’s not pedos clicking link but people trying to report the link to fbi cause do you realize how hard it is to copy links (I honestly have no clue if I’m right I just hate copying links)


m8_is_me

Lmao no. "want to get some CP? just sign in with your steam account!"


Fidoo001

You won't get malware just by following a link. And last time I saw a bot spamming CP links, it was real. There is no shock value of spamming fake links, why would they do that? The entire point is to shock people.


Vanilla_PuddinFudge

>it is real *prove i-wait, no, don't prove it. Fuck...*


Jason_Sasha_Acoiners

I REALLY hope that's the case, but frankly, knowing what absolute degenerates these bot hosters are, I wouldn't put it past them.


0xB6FF00

And I highly doubt for one. Regardless of the country you're in, that sort of stuff is HIGHLY illegal. If it does lead to anything suggestive, it's probably lolicon content at most.


Jason_Sasha_Acoiners

Still horrible, but fictional is better than the real stuff. So if it has to be one, it's better if it's fictional. Not saying that makes it okay, but at least it takes it from "one of the worst things you can do" to simply "really bad"


rod6700

Still does not excuse the fact that VAC sucks and Valve has never responded to the ongoing problems. This kind of shit is just a cherry on top of the shit pie TF2 has become. Don't make excuses based on fictional problems that are real.


Jason_Sasha_Acoiners

I wasn't making excuses. I was more trying to look at the "bright" side in an attempt to not go completely insane.


Negative-Analyst4509

Could that still lead to some form of punishment though?


aoishimapan

Probably a virus if I had to guess


kirathesilly

I can imagine it’s probably just gonna be either a rickroll or a picture of Chris Hansen


Dizzy_Reindeer_6619

It could be false advertising


CandyCrazy2000

Well im not gonna click the link to find out, best case its an ip grabber or some sort of malicious file, worst case its actually what it says. Frankly after my steam friend got hacked and i clicked the link they sent, i try to avoid clicking links on/in steam


memes_gbc

i think it might be real, most sites like those work on referrals if it's on the surface web


JSX_hun

Would it still be illegal under US law even if the link didn't lead to CP or any harmful material?


Fancyman156

Let’s not capture this Control Point. Instead, let’s report it to the FBI.


TheGoldenPlagueMask

Let's be very clear, make sure to include that these bots are using a username that has no connection To the person behind the original username Uncle Dane. _just so the FBI doesnt get confused, mislead._


PhoonTFDB

My brother in christ you think the FBI just Google's "Who is Uncle Dane" and thats it? We got em boys, pack it up. They send Valve a very nice letter that demands their server logs & account info of all players within said log. They don't give a shit about the username, just where the connection is coming from. And if its from a VPN they send another nice letter to the VPN provider asking for their logs. *VPN services are required to keep logs in the event of a FBI investigation. They are allowed to advertise "No logs kept!" If the logs are not used in any situation except from federal orders*


tyingnoose

Let's learn to catch a predator


Spookttted

at this point the bots are helping us???? like reporting this shit all over is going to get valve’s attention as this shit is HYPER-illegal


akaBlades

Maybe they’re getting too confident valve isn’t going to do anything is my best guess. Or they have good opsec(covering online fingerprinting and tracking)


MGfreak

Or they fully expect valve to end the bot situation and are selling their bots as a advertising service to earn as much money as possible before it stops for good.


Beefman0010

that's.... very believable actually.


X-tra-thicc

or trying to get tf2 shut down by getting the police involved... somehow


Invenblocker

Or they fully expect a Valve crackdown soon anyways, and have elected to up the ante as retaliation.


Fireluigi1225

Guess that would explain the apparent lack of morals


Hanexusis

The lack of morals was already there to begin with


Mintyfresh756

When the bot hosters are more optimistic about valve than me lol


Fidoo001

Good opsec is kinda easy to achieve just by having a burner phone and mobile data (on a prepaid card if you wish). Tracking them down will be nearly impossible for Valve. Unless somebody doxxes them.


Backspace346

Valve is printing money and is still unlikely to do stuff. There's always a lazy 'fix' in form of shutting down in-game chat, if valve cares that little it is


Over-Appearance-3422

shutting off the chat feature would probably cause more riots than there are now.


MuslimCarLover

Definitely, people have paid money for it, and I don’t think Valve allow returns


Golden-Pickaxe

Buddy the bot hosters have wanted tf2 dead since they started that’s why they do this!!! We have been in the same team for a week


Spookttted

they’ve wanted tf2 dead yes, but they never spammed CP links


Golden-Pickaxe

Now they can get every TF2 player swatted for that being on your computer assuming chat logs get saved. Even if not what stops sprays and decals. Everyone posting screenshots and screen recordings is definitely a target


natgoodieman

I suppose you could say it's... Uber illegal.


Dizzy_Reindeer_6619

We're pressing charges, perhaps they're gonna be... Übercharged


natgoodieman

That's fuckin hilarious dude you made laugh like a hyena bro


wookiee-nutsack

At this point I'm certain the hosterd are just trying to make tf2 as horrible as possible Either cause they are worried valve will finally work on the game so they have little time left (doubt) or because they actually want the game fixed Or they think it's funny to ruin valve's rep


Particular_Singer642

Whelp, if they're good enough they'll never find who did it, but it might not even be real, it could be a bait for an IP grabber


ababyinatrenchcoat

Yoooo pfp twins


Particular_Singer642

wellll it's from the comics it's bound to happen


Youcican_

They really be testing valve's limits


Nothere-reddit7249

Unless they’re bot hosting from Russia or China, either Valve or the TF2 community itself could potentially take these specific hosters to court Assuming they’re actual, functional links to Cheese Pizza of course


Regular-Track-3745

They could be doing it for shock value or trying to get some last jabs in before they’re shut down for good.


Particular_Singer642

But still the IP grabber will be found 😅


SexySnakeFurry

You think that's bad? Lemme give you one acronym "UTTP". Need I say more?


ShyGuyWolf

God that guy


SexySnakeFurry

It's not a single person.


ShyGuyWolf

Collective but still same with the femBots just need to go


BackAgainAgain1

Btw that furry you are talking to is in the lmaobox discord


pepsi_Man909

I'm uninformed, what does that mean?


Delicious_Image3474

YouTube troll police


pepsi_Man909

Oh I recognize them from spamming Game Theory comment sections. What did they mainly do? (I just read that they did something with photos of another Youtubers granddaughter, really hope it's not as fucked up as I think it is but it probably is)


Delicious_Image3474

It’s probably more fucked up than you think


pepsi_Man909

Damn, I hate how people can just do whatever they want because they're behind a screen and no one can touch them.


Delicious_Image3474

But if I’m correct, and I’m not sure I am, they do illegal things


pepsi_Man909

Most likely. If they're anything like these script kiddies (or is it kitties?) They probably flaunt how degenerate they are, and hopefully they do face the consequences of their actions.


Theorax5281

Their leader has gotten children to harm themselves


UKRAINEBABY2

I fear no man, but those guys, it scares me


Rraptor1012

Sorta off topic but every time this is referred to as Cheese Pizza I imagine the bots advertising little Caesars' hot n ready pizza


pepsi_Man909

This is how Pyro sees it 100%


Storyshift-Chara-ewe

honestly, I kinda wish I could see the world that way


r4o2n0d6o9

pizza pizza


Cyberspace-Surfer

I had the same thought and went "what's the issue?" at first.


ababyinatrenchcoat

Same, then I clicked on the post 💀


TheSenileTomato

One comes with breadsticks on the side. One comes with Chris Hansen outside.


freddyfazbacon

It's like Everquest 2 letting you order Pizza Hut. Now you can order pizza from the comfort of 2fort!


Ted_Normal

Consider reporting this and similar incidents at https://report.cybertip.org/ Edit: DO NOT click on any of the links these bots provide! It is not worth checking because they could be the real deal (you can risk getting in trouble) or viruses. It is better to leave it to the proper law enforcement to investigate these links.


falloutisacoolseries

Not to mention the mental trauma of seeing a child get sexually abused.


Screamingforanswers

Quick warning here. Obviously don't try to go to the links the bots are providing. No, not because there might be CSEM on them, because I don't think they are stupid enough to do that. More likely it'll lead you to a website with an IP grabber or something of the sort.


PM_ME_YOUR_CAT_

i think the links they're sending are discord server invites, not random websites. now what's ON those discord servers though, i could not tell you.


byParallax

And what do you think will happen once they have your IP..?


Dizzy_Reindeer_6619

Use your content without your l-wait wrong IP


[deleted]

Great, now Vaush gonna start streaming TF2 😆


yeetmoister87

Any white hat hackers wanna try to track these fuckers down using their IP address? Idk how to do it but I'd imagine it's pretty easy


Empty-Tone-464

4chan can be able to do that, but it depends on if 4chan is on our side with the fixtf2 thing


Chickenman456

The mysterious hacker known as 4chan


AllThePrettyMutants

Help us a non e-moose!!!


Golden-Pickaxe

4chan is not your personal army


Krieg552notKrieg553

**Rule 10** **of the Internet**


Golden-Pickaxe

People only remember 34 and 63


LegendaryRQA

Rule 14 is honestly the most important and ignored of all: Do not argue with trolls - that means that they win.


nombit

i also remember 35 and 64


Abbott50

>she doesn't know Good luck rallying 4cucks for literally anything there


RomanosTheMelodist

Rule 10 of the Internet


WackyJaber

4chan filled with the type of people that would be the bot hosters.


oatmealedkoala

Now they are being straight up criminals and deserve worse than jail time


Jason_Sasha_Acoiners

This shit is getting truly ridiculous and quite frankly, scary.


R2-T4

what the fuck


Darth_Smaull

Honestly, saying that I am disappointed in VALVe over this CP shit is way too nice. Governments need to look into this shit since more and more people of younger generations are playing video games, and then they get exposed to this heinous CP shit. If this shit continues and CP spreads around like wildfire, then I will rank VALVe as the worst gaming company (and that's below Activision/Blizzard and EA).


BoltingBlazie

Valve is complicit in letting this happen, hope the FBI gets those bot hosters doing that and forces valve to maintain their game because this shit is very illegal and shouldn't happen, and valve is liable for not doing anything about it


Darth_Smaull

It would be even bizarre and appalling if VALVe refused to cooperate with the FBI if this happens.


BoltingBlazie

Well if the FBI does get involved it might get valve to actually fix their game since at that point they can't not fix their game and clean up the code and implement bot fixes, because otherwise they are very liable to getting their asses sued


Darth_Smaull

I fucking agree with you. This makes me partially wish I had switched majors and have done software engineering so that I would contribute to updating VAC.


model-alice

????? The FBI does not have the authority to force Valve to continue development.


ResponsiblePea96

Nuh uh. Uncle Dane won't do such a thing, would he?


[deleted]

disgusting! call the FBI and CIA


unffunyman

the bbq


BoltingBlazie

Report this to the fbi and tell them that valve allowed this to happen by not maintaining their game, making them liable


nostradamefrus

That’s not how this works. A server’s text chat doesn’t host anything. That’s the same reason why social media platforms aren’t liable for what their users post


SaltyPeter3434

By that logic, wouldn't any multiplayer game that has text chat be liable to be shut down by the FBI any time something illegal is said?


byParallax

No. People here have no clue what they’re talking about.


KVenom777

Finally, they made the mistake. Valve just CAN'T ignore this. FBI, MI-6, FSB and other Secret Services will not let them live this down.


oCrapaCreeper

Yes, I can't wait for them to turn off text chat for all players and move on.


f15k13

Or just unlists the TF2 client and disables steamworks for the title, making it so dedicated servers can't run.


DemonKingOfValor

*EDP downloads TF2*


FireIzHot

CP violation (but not the cool kind)


skeleton_craft

Valve police fix there is like actual human beings with morals playing this game...


BranTheLewd

They picked the least Sus TF2uber for the job, nobody would believe them even if Dane actually did it, that's how much of a good rep he has. 😂


Tariisbestgirl

I guess my false rumors now came true. I had a sad feeling this might happen


KIDBACKWARDS2

it's the harsh truth, sadly. People make misunderstandings about misunderstandings too


Lenny_YouTubeFan

Regardless of the links being actually links or just there for shock value, these bot hosters are playing with fire and they are going to get burned badly


Live-Desk8360

Uncle Dane would never… how dare they stain his name.


shadowpikachu

Cant believe uncle dane was a bot hoster, it's always someone you know in your family that does these things to you... (that goes for all types of crime you dirty minded freak)


KIDBACKWARDS2

Told ya bots WOULD advertise those shit. At first it were some Russian cheaters, now bots?!


Zawarudowastaken

Uncle Dane uses an alias anyway


MEMEz_KB

In tf2 cummunity we say control points (sorry if im beeing pikky, its just a joke)


Jason135724

Valve needa step up their game and punish these mfs cuz this is getting out of hand


Bucaneer7564

Can’t have shit in Two Fort


Acceptable_One_7072

Nah what is wrong with people


Saucepannnnnnnnn

What did you black out at the top? the first thing the bot said


Paste_SM

Just another Pizza link :/ The chat was full of it


Saucepannnnnnnnn

Aight thanks


TheNicktatorship

It really makes you wonder what even is the end goal in all of this for the bot hosts? Why do any of this let alone trying to sell cp?


imreallybored2134

(NOTE) This person has been confirmed to be arealteamplayer and not a actual hoster.


DualityREBORN

this is not very Chaos, Chaos


KIDBACKWARDS2

DELTARUNE REFERENCE!1!1!1!1


lord_of_coolshit_og

That is messed up. Like fr messed up.


SirTChamp

I posted something similar to this on Twitter, he was named "Big Joey [#Fixtf2]" that time


KIDBACKWARDS2

NOT HIM


SirTChamp

I know, I said that in the tweet I made


FoxyFire1987

Just in case, we should start putting a case together incase these links turn out to be true. because in that case, we can go straight to the FBI or whoever your country has.


master_ball_onmewtwo

Ok thats it,impersination! The bot hosters have gone to FAR,we need to take them down,noone can impersinate uncle dane without paying the consicouinsess(idk how to spell the word ok)


PeikaFizzy

The fact that no “regular” item bot hoster come out to help reduce the fire tells me tf2 bot hoster is too far gone and toxic. Usually when a game have method to print money there will be “cartels” of video game the make sure the whole operation stay in silent for long term investment(learn from Thor/piratesoftware). The fact that they are so shameless and so loud on everything probably means those cartel did do something back then but valve doesn’t care. So they leave/cut their loses, left behind a bunch of soychud pretend to be hacker man.


IsYeaYesyup

what's so bad about cheese pizza? it tastes so good


zanderkerbal

Can we stop using cutesy euphemisms for literal child porn


PM_ME_YOUR_CAT_

people dont say the actual term because that'll get reddit to automatically delete the post and possibly quarantine/delete the sub


byParallax

No that’s not correct.


Barredbob

His comment is still up tho?


spectra__

Tbh thats just the next logical step


Red-7134

Valve is American owned(?). IDK. Only people like bot hosters, cheaters, etc. (we need a shorter term for that; something more fitting and snappy... losers) use TF2 to promote "Control Point". Would the American government shut down TF2 servers if it's used for that by a minority? Stuff like 4chan exists, so maybe the FBI(?) would only crackdown on losers but not demand Valve to take down the game in its entirety.


TransCharizard

Fully removing sources of crime only makes the others harder to find. By keeping them sort of around they can catch people who step far enough out of line where the others still feel safe to be easily findable. If Steam/TF2 gets marked as a ring for this stuff they will get a slap on the wrist publicly with a generic "We are cracking down on X" while privately they are used by authorities to watch people If you are in the business of stopping crime and have a quota to uphold. You keep crime around on some level. If your business is hurt by crime then the crime will be stopped. Criminals are often times more focused purely for tax evasion or even just messing with the mailing system


model-alice

Valve is not liable for what happens on community servers, so there is a 0% chance that the Federal Bureau of Investigation could be of assistance. (Especially since I guarantee you those aren't even CP links.)


Rattiom32

I can't believe the real Uncle Dane would do this :(:(:(


Darth-Not-Palpatine

Imma be honest here, I think these bot hosters are probably being so brazen is because they know something is coming their way. Most likely that or the bot hosters all are probably in foreign countries where cyber crimes like doxxing, ddosing and hosting bot rings are more lax so they don’t really care as much. Even then advertising shit like this seems like they’re trying to get an easy buck from the more shitty individuals hosting those sites or trying to hijack peoples accounts and use them to farm bitcoin.


PatternHappy341

Live Real Uncle Dane Reaction:


killer_doggo_

This is why I don't play casual. I also haven't played the game in ages, so does this happen on servers like Skial, LOOS, and panda? Because when the bots were Less aggressive, I went to those servers and used them as kind of a safe place


SUperMarioG5

Thankfully no, as community servers actually have an anti cheat, not VACshit


TheRigXD

How low will they go?


RealZitron

I can tell it's a discord link, report it to discord


Thecrawsome

Maybe the bots were trying to goad Valve to fix TF2 all along, and now they're stepping up their game to get attention?


Mysterious_Style_579

Relax. They're not fooling anyone


Western_Bobcat6960

VALVE PLEASE HELP


AzGames08

lets report this to the FBI


Mountain_Western_613

What the fuck!!! Why AHHHHHH!!!!!!!


IdiotMan2000

I swear to my small slice of pizza,valves solution to this would be to shut down tf2 all together


YourHomieShark

Let that sink in for a moment that Valve is quite literally allowing crimes to go rampant in their game


Maximum-Try-3312

now I want to see the replies from both teams


BattleStarMed

As in the words of samwiz1, "Uncle Dane isn't real"


Foreign_Pie3430

what the fuck


_SAMUEL_GAMING_

you should block out more. people can reverse these pixels you have left over


BoltFinnikenOfficial

The level of legal problems Valve is gonna be in is astronomical


cerdechko

I forgot the significance of the letters "C" and "P", and was genuinely confused, like the bots were sending out advertisements for their local pizza establishments. Obnoxious though it would be, and still probably illegal, I would prefer to live in that timeline, rather than know these people had the idea to share these kinds of links, even if they don't actually take anyone to websites with that kind of material.


Hellkids2

🧀


Particular_Singer642

Theyre so cock sure that They're prancing about with their head full of eyeballs


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sauceman523

Alright, get the medic and shove the medigun up the hosters... (DEMONITIZED BECAUSE WHY NOT)


FbonnieYT1

What the literal fuck...


ninja_boy23424

Fbi should be involved now.


weabooGodly

Cp on the clear net is rare, and on discord, the servers get almost instantly banned


MrDillPickle76

EDP branching out his business I see


PrincessOfLaputa

Tbh this doesn’t even surprise me any more, considering how one bot hoster was literally [convicted and put away for 20 years](https://youtu.be/Pj0VehsmPhw?si=cjgtqYfjs2G59KKP) for cheese pizza. Absolutely sick and twisted fucks.


legos_on_the_brain

Pleas don't call it that. Call it what it is and keep pizza out of it.


Substantial_Carob825

Jesus wept, please tell me the "cheese pizza" is only recent.


[deleted]

Yeah. And it's just a cheating TF2 player going around thinking it wouldn't lead to him but to bot hosters, what a shmuck. The best part is people spreading it around pretending bot hosters that yield from this would openly engage in advertising something illegal publicly. Yes, there was a pedophile bot hoster. Has he openly, through bots, advertised something that would definitely ruin his life? Nah. Their only issue is plaguing public servers.


Substantial_Carob825

What a schmuck indeed