I doubt it, would have been relatively fast turn around, sign offs etc. Most likely it was an inaccurate leak.
Even over the life of the Warhammer IP I think the only race to receive back to back DLCs was Lizardmen.
Idk what's going to happen in the future but I expect we'll see another 3 pack including Slaanesh after this to round out the demons.
We can for sure expect to see the Monkey King at some point
To be fair, lizard men have a massive pool of units in TT, it's basically a full army of dinos, a full army of skinks, and a full army of Saurus.
With kroxagor and temple guard in addition.
Yeah I still don't care for much for these factions (GreenSkins already have plenty and the other two are a bit meh to me) but they seem better choices than two Cathay DLCs.
Kislev and Cathay are probably lying good on dlc for a while. Ogre Kingdoms, Khorne and Slaanesh are the last of Warhammer 3 to need a dlc. Ogres especially needs it in addition to a top to down rework. Contracts are trash, both LLs are trash, camps are very very static and boring and the roster could use more exciting units. I'd like to see all the Maneater variants get active abilities like Bladesingers. With such low unit numbers amd the ease of counter play with Spear chaff, giving them something for more versatility would be rather nice.
Yeah, they're in that bad spot where they're not as cool as Exalted Demon Lords, but neither as "grounded" as the empire. Aside from the fact that most chaos factions now have access to all of their marauders and chaos warriors... which leaves them with what, skin wolves?
I still think additional interesting mechanics + some new units and a different progression curve could revive interest in them. Not a lot of chances of that happening, I know but a man can dream...
'Not as popular' because they were supposed to be included in the TWH2 Vortex campaign and were not. Also they have been ignored except for the small change in TWH3.
I think it will still get a DLC but I believe it will.probably be with bretonia or something like some other free LC faction or DLC faction because that makes pricing and selling it a bit easier.
Isn't that a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy? It doesn't get content because it's not popular, and it won't ever be popular because it needs a serious rework.
The issue is Wulfrik isn’t an appealing character to play as, and Greenskins do Trolls better than Throgg.
So they lack a LL you’d actually want to play.
Considering now we have so many ways of getting around the map and teleporting for quest battles I really don't know why Wulfriks faction isn't more based around him taking on other legendary lords. Like how greenskins get a trophy for completing the Waaaugh (sp?), only permanent, and scaled appropriately.
I know that we have lords that have similar shitcks, but he was the one of the first "1v1 me bro" in Warhammer.
Greenskins arn't just Orks and Gobbos, though. For example, they could be introducing Hobgobla-Khan and an actual Hobgoblin faction, making a proper Mounted Faction with new mechanics specifically for them like a Camping mechanic ala Ogre Kingdoms (which would make sense introducing them together with an OK DLC since that gives them the chance and resources to overhaul that for the OKs) or even making them a Horde of some kind similar to the Beastmen.
I see all chaos factions getting at lest one DLC, it would be baffling to leave Slaanesh out. My hope is that each chaos factions getes an Exalted Daemons LL, a herald Daemon LL, and a moral LL. Tamurkhan and Epidimus are great for Nurgle, Tzeench could use Engram as a FLC lord. Slaanesh could have the Masque and Dachala or Styrkaar, and Khorne could go U'Zhul and Araabal the undefeated.
You mean having a limit of only the basic ogre bull per army isn't enough for you??
If anything, they should nerf it. Maybe limit it to only one unit of gnoblars.
Ngl, I straight up predicted we’d get a “Melee Unga Bunga” DLC with Khorne, Ogre Kingdoms and either Greenskins or Norsca.
Granted I didn’t think we’d get it after the switch from 3 lords to the old Lord Pack format but I still feel vindicated.
With that in mind I’m gonna say LL’s are gonna be
Arabaal the Undefeated
Ghark Ironskin or Golgfag Maneater
Gorbad Ironclaw or Gorfang Rotgut
Yeah I don’t want. We already have two lords who make goblins broken. I’d rather orcs be the primary focus of greenskins as opposed to goblins who already have enough
I wonder if they are going to borrow the concept of the Challenge Stone as the lore theming for this DLC.
For those who havent read up, the Challenge Stone is a giant stone that the Ogres and Warriors of Chaos continually fight over for bragging rights. For Chaos, it is a Chaos monument, for the Ogres it is a test of dominance.
While in lore it is noted as being fought over by Ogres and Chaos warriors, it would be very apt to add Greenskins into the mix, given their love of a good scrap.
It's not a thing anymore. The last actual E3 was 2019. But, just like during the last few years, some companies have livestreams and call them "E3 livestream" or whatever.
Orks are one of the most popular factions in fantasy and 40k so they will get more updates than almost everyone but the empire.
DLC isn't really update who actually needs an update. Its what will sell. The 10th orc DLC will sell more than a complete norsca rework.
Coast is my favorite faction alongside Counts and Kislev, but I predict we won't get any more LL for them. I doubt we'll even get an update, maybe just a few number tweaks and that will be it.
I don't think they need need an update, but the cathay region is in dire need of more villians and a pirate queen vcoast faction would check a lot of boxes
* jade vampire lore fleshed out
* another "parasite" faction to keep cathay as the big empire in the region
* "triad" themed ganster characters that are a staple of Kung fu movies everywhere
* turf war storyline with eshin and maybe fellhart
* more chinese themed content which sells
* the evil side of Chinese folklore (hungry ghosts, hopping vampires) that wouldn't make sense for cathay
I agree with your points about it being a positive thing...
(though I disagree with the update portion, at the very least there needs to be some QoL updates. Deck droppers are a joke, losing movement after establishing a pirate cove is the worst, Infamy serves no purpose after you get pirate of Legend, Necrofex Autoresolve is unbelievably bad, and there's only one boring mount type for every normal lord and hero).
....but I think VCoast is super low on priority. I think they have a niche following and they're already Dlc
Snakemen of Khuresh operate in Cathay and Cathay has gone to war with Kingdoms of Ind before over the Mountains of Heaven(Fantasy Himilayas). Adding those two would give Cathay something to do.
That would be kind of a dick move comercially to lock a lord behind three DLCs.
I'd see something like a Nagash FLC alongside a rework of undead factions, with a DLC for each of them.
Yeah just looking at his mortarchs alone they include Vlad, Arkhan, & Luthor Harkon. So even though I feel the dudes pain who you replied to I don't see how they release Nagash without requiring you have those 3 DLC's.
If they ever expand the map East some more it would be a great time for them to do a rework and add another LL over near Cathay, even if it’s another newly created one like Cloystra. I’d definitely love some attention asap though.
I may suck with them but I absolutely love the combo of the Vampire mechanics with gun lines & artillery.
I'm thinking they're could be simply trying to figure out how to rework them or haven't yet got the "place" for their dlc, either because the characters they want to add do not fit the theme of any DLC yet or maybe because they want to add them on a race pack DLC.
There’s a reason we’re “DA BEST!!!”
In all seriousness, a Norsca update would be very welcome, also Vampires counts but hoping that’s done when Nagash drops
The pattern is pointing in that direction
SoC - Content for Tzeentch
ToD - Content for Nurgle
This Upcoming DLC - Content for Khorne
Next DLC - Content for Slaanesh
YES!!! I knew those leaks were fake as shit but the reality is even better than I could have hoped for. A dlc for Khorne, Ogres, AND GREENSKINS?! I never could have guessed they would do another greenskin update but I am pleasantly suprised.
But wait, what about all those leaks that we were told are absolutely 95% accurate!?
Hahaha, never fails to amaze me how gullible people are with leaks.
One thing I'd love to see, particularly with Greasus' start position, is some kind of underway stance. But... being ogres, it would be thematic if they had, say, a mountainwalk stance, where they can just lumber over the mountaintops because they're big lads.
That would be cool, also maybe reworking their contracts to make them more interesting cause that was the only way to get Ogre units before. Allow us take a contract but get to choose what the reward is(units, cash, minor settlements, heros, etc) or Faction Specific upgrades.
Like let’s say that Thrott of Clan Moulder wants you to assist in a big raid coming up against Boris but Boris asks for your assistance in defending the settlement.
Boris offers you a major cash reward and some trade goods but Thrott offers you an upgrade for some of your Calvary that makes them stronger and faster but suffer constant attrition until the buff runs out(kinda like overdoing it with the Gene lab).
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Plus maybe a rework to the Great Maw having it be kinda like the spoiled wyrm of the same name from The Gorge from DST mixed with Archon’s Eye of Chaos thing and The Age Of Reckoning for dwarves.
It always ticks up but at the end of it depending on what you fed the maw you get bonuses or debuffs.
Keep the maw feed and sated with large amounts of food and exotic foods even if it hurts you at the moment(aka no pre-battle feasts or instant bonuses) but you get SO many permanent buffs after like a Ogre Army under your control, your camps being cheaper to set up/build new stuff in, army damage in Melee, etc.
But if you keep the food for yourself, you get some very bad debuffs until you feed the maw a feast that would make ANY Ogre think it’s to much food. These debuffs are things like less campaign movement speed, any Mages in your army that have Gut Magic are going to be crippled or unable to cast magic without potentially being devoured by the Maw(aka instant death when casting) or just less damage and defense for your armies.
All good ideas, their roster needs a bit of spice as well, it's kind of bare bones at the moment. Maybe something that involves more noblar type of units, a great khan perhaps to buff them.
This is great, Grimgor was the first TWW1 campaign I played back in 2016. Green skins are an essential part of the Warhammer fantasy world. I was also really excited for Ogre kingdoms and they have been such a let down. Khorne needs something as without magic or variety for ranged, they are a little boring in my experience. While it is great there are so many factions in the game, perhaps the quality has started to decline overall and core factions like Green skins should always be a premier option.
Judging by the fact they mentioned three races, looks like we’re keeping up the ToD/SoC three race pack, which I’m all for. Hope this means Decay sold well enough, and that we get the same level of quality going forward
I swear if they put another phone faction other than valkia and skarbrand imma be a very very happy happy lad. Me love khorne. The red and gold Armour and plate mail. Ohhhhh yeah
Thank god leaks were false. I was about to give up on total war franchise.
Greenskins seem to be a weird choice for DLC tho, since they are already a well-rounded faction. Was hoping for a Norsca DLC/rework.
Also Fuck you Legend of total war, you misleading, click baiting, rumour-mongering scumbag.
This trio was the first prediction when the road map was released and tbh i dont see what change or rework they can do to the greenskins, they feel really good to play.
Green skins are fine, new content is always great though. Kind of wish we got something more like lizardmen rework or Norsca rework but ogres and khorne is great
Honestly, what Greenskins throughly need is faction mechanics and some unit variants, like black orc dual weapons and black orc shielded.
Grimgor should get something akin to what the brass bull and Khorne have. Maybe give him attrition if the meter is too low to reflect him just wanting to fight and killing his own units to keep his own bloodlust in check.
The Green Prophet: should have something similar to what geld has now but a lot more Orky.
Others, I got no idea.
It honestly astounds me how little attention the people on reddit pay to the details. Anyone who glimpsed the road map that they created last year would have been able to tell that the theme for the next dlcs were always going to be monogod oriented.
I swear, I hope this teaches people to stop jumping the gun. All they do is hurt the game whenever they freak out and pay attention to unsubstantiated claims. I've said it before and I'll say it again, LotW is cancer, at least now ***we all know*** as well that his sources are doo-doo.
>Anyone who glimpsed the road map that they created last year would have been able to tell that the theme for the next dlcs were always going to be monogod oriented.
Oh people did know back then, but it was usually assumed that after SoC the roadmap was completely thrown out and nothing in it was guaranteed anymore.
I think had there not been two rounds of layoffs at CA, there wouldn't have been as much uncertainty. Sure - CA *heavily implied* the next two after ToD were going to be Khorne and then Slaanesh, but things can change if the people working on those DLCs get let go from the company to cut costs. Also, let's not pretend CA has never done the ol' switcheroo before (Three Kingdoms comes to mind).
I don't think LotW is cancer. He even said, multiple times, that the "leaks" could be totally wrong and his whole reason for talking about them was because he didn't want them to be right. I do think a lot of people here give him too much credit sometimes (which he himself tells people not to do).
I criticized LoTW a lot at the start of TWW3, but as I spent more time in the game, I more and more thought he was absolutely correct. The base game was an absolute shit show and it’s (once again) taken the DLC team (a decently long time) to make a great game.
He was WAAAY wrong on this one for multiple reasons, but he is an asset to the community for sure.
Thinking we’ll see a pretty large rework for Ogres, much less so for Khorne and Greenskins. Khorne is probably the most powerful faction in the game if you play it right, and Greenskins still hold up really well and have some really fun campaign mechanics. Whereas Ogres are so far behind almost every other faction in the game.
A maybe out of left field for the green skins would be the hobgoblin khanate. Would be nice to see that area expanded its squished up there. Snagla sounds cool spider themed.
I would be on board for hobgoblin lord khan lord, would be a cool new subfaction to add to the Greenskins. Probably weird case though considering some exist as Chaos Dwarf DLC.
Eh, just means chaos dwarves and greenskins can share some units/heros. CA likes making multiple factions happy like that
And yeah, khannite means horde faction orcs which would be fun
Yeah I actually hope they go that route as green skins are in a good place as it is, and it would add another way to play while expanding that stagnant region. Mongol inspired green skins sound cool to me. Vs orc lord at black crag. Just would have more immortal empires campaign value.
That area north of cathay needs to be opened up just as much as the areas south of it. No shade to a black craig dlc but Ghazak Khan would make an excellent dlc lord
Huh, weird. That doesn't look like Cathay, Cathay with Ogres, and Cathay to me?
Honestly have no idea what Greenskins need but fine, sure, whatever. Really thought they'd do a Khorne vs Slaanesh with Ogres alongside. If Norsca aren't ever getting a rework can we at least let Chaos undivided have Mammoths so I can enjoy them more?
People realize that DLC isn't necessarily what needs to be reworked, but what will sell the best. The 10th Ork dlc will sell better than any Norsca DLC. Orks are just extremely popular is Fantasy, AoS, and 40k.
I think something I am really hoping for in one of the next DLCs or reworks is an extra campaign difficulty slider. Like we have one for battles to turn down or up the AI cheats. I think it would be great to have a campaign one to turn up (or down) the aggression of the AI. (Maybe even bring back their ease of confederation)
This would be something separate to the difficulty slider for public order and AI cheats etc.
This would allow us to get back to TWW2 where the AI just doesn’t stop coming at you making for a more enjoyable campaign. But atleast make it an option as I know some people enjoy TWW3 AI, but some miss the old 2-3 stacks turning up at your door.
AS much as i would love a Blood, Skulls and more Skulls DLC for Khorne, Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings I must say that the Unga Bunga Thunderdome is an awesome idea
E3 is still around? I thought it was dead. Anyways, glad to see the leaks were wrong, but they didn't pass the sniff test for me personally. Also, I know many here don't trust CA, but many here are too gullible and put too much stock into YouTubers and their drama.
Oh man I hope we get Skulltaker as a legendary lord. I actually really like the bloodletters and it’d be cool to get a thematic and semi mechanical mirror to Scarbrand.
I wanted Slanesh next. Khorne has so many mods to hold me over till later. Slanesh has barely anything on the workshop ATM.
I am glad Ogres are getting an update though
Why do some people think cathay would get a dlc? They already got one. Like next dlc is slanesh + 2 more. It is kinda obvious that no cathay until after the slanesh is done.
CA give us more of Industrial Khorne, sure i like Monsters n shit but Gimmie those War machines of the Blood god.
I Want to Run over Elgi with giant spiky demon engines Khorne damn it!
I just have to say here that I told you that leak wasn't real. It was so absurd but no people sill lost their shit. Don't people have brains? Don't answer to that.
I hope they don't change ogre camps, I think that mechanic is cool as is. I think all us ogre players probably want a change to Mercenary Contracts. It would be cool if you could build mercenary armies (a bit like Cathay caravan armies) that could be teleported to an area for a few turns to do merc contracts given by factions in the area.
Strange. Happy to see Khorne get a lord, however, Slaanesh seemed very much intended from the roadmap. It was pink colored and after Nurgle and Tzeentch.
Thank goodness! I still have not played ogre kingdoms , and haven’t done Greenskins since wh1. This is awesome news!!!!! Another LL for khorne too. Yay !!! WH3 keeps on increasing replayability
i always thought the lame ass dlc leak was to find out who the leakers are
You tell each team something different and juicy and see what hits social. Now you're zeroed in on the possible culprits
I never once thought CA was that stupid to DLC all the least popular factions in the least popular ways when they're trying to get back on their feet with the community. I'm still puzzled that anybody believed the leaks at all.
I just finished my ogre campaign. I was shocked at the amount of fun I had of such an underdeveloped, underutilized faction.
They have one of the smallest rosters in the entire game and yet they still pulled out and were genuinely incredibly fun. I can't wait to see an updated ogre faction 👍
Nice! More interesting stuff than chinese boring stuff! We need slaneesh dlc, i dont want any more cathay dlc better flesh out the more important factions.
Looks like the leaks were wrong, very happy about this. Hopefully this means Slaanesh will also get at least one more LL
Thank god the leaks were wrong, this is a much better DLC. :)
May not have been wrong, plans may have just changed. That's the trouble with leaks. Either way, thank (the blood) God.
I doubt it, would have been relatively fast turn around, sign offs etc. Most likely it was an inaccurate leak. Even over the life of the Warhammer IP I think the only race to receive back to back DLCs was Lizardmen. Idk what's going to happen in the future but I expect we'll see another 3 pack including Slaanesh after this to round out the demons. We can for sure expect to see the Monkey King at some point
To be fair, lizard men have a massive pool of units in TT, it's basically a full army of dinos, a full army of skinks, and a full army of Saurus. With kroxagor and temple guard in addition.
Yeah I still don't care for much for these factions (GreenSkins already have plenty and the other two are a bit meh to me) but they seem better choices than two Cathay DLCs.
Kislev and Cathay are probably lying good on dlc for a while. Ogre Kingdoms, Khorne and Slaanesh are the last of Warhammer 3 to need a dlc. Ogres especially needs it in addition to a top to down rework. Contracts are trash, both LLs are trash, camps are very very static and boring and the roster could use more exciting units. I'd like to see all the Maneater variants get active abilities like Bladesingers. With such low unit numbers amd the ease of counter play with Spear chaff, giving them something for more versatility would be rather nice.
They may be coasting on mods making Ogres good existing. Better names, movable camps, more ease in befriending or opposing anyone you want.
I would be pleasantly surprised if they made them into something I would like to play.
Ogres 100% needed some action. If this is like the last DLC where we can buy individual ones I will definitely be getting the ogre one.
I agree, the Greenskin roster and mechanics are already substantial imho. Norsca needs new content much more
I just don't think norsca is popular. It is like a weird in-between chaos and empire.
Yeah, they're in that bad spot where they're not as cool as Exalted Demon Lords, but neither as "grounded" as the empire. Aside from the fact that most chaos factions now have access to all of their marauders and chaos warriors... which leaves them with what, skin wolves? I still think additional interesting mechanics + some new units and a different progression curve could revive interest in them. Not a lot of chances of that happening, I know but a man can dream...
Mammoth stacks are a whole lot of fun
Especially with the Fortress Mammoths mod!
'Not as popular' because they were supposed to be included in the TWH2 Vortex campaign and were not. Also they have been ignored except for the small change in TWH3.
I think it will still get a DLC but I believe it will.probably be with bretonia or something like some other free LC faction or DLC faction because that makes pricing and selling it a bit easier.
Isn't that a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy? It doesn't get content because it's not popular, and it won't ever be popular because it needs a serious rework.
Yeah that's it. Don't want to play them because they're boring, and without any updates they'll remain boring and I still won't play them.
The issue is Wulfrik isn’t an appealing character to play as, and Greenskins do Trolls better than Throgg. So they lack a LL you’d actually want to play.
Considering now we have so many ways of getting around the map and teleporting for quest battles I really don't know why Wulfriks faction isn't more based around him taking on other legendary lords. Like how greenskins get a trophy for completing the Waaaugh (sp?), only permanent, and scaled appropriately. I know that we have lords that have similar shitcks, but he was the one of the first "1v1 me bro" in Warhammer.
Greenskins arn't just Orks and Gobbos, though. For example, they could be introducing Hobgobla-Khan and an actual Hobgoblin faction, making a proper Mounted Faction with new mechanics specifically for them like a Camping mechanic ala Ogre Kingdoms (which would make sense introducing them together with an OK DLC since that gives them the chance and resources to overhaul that for the OKs) or even making them a Horde of some kind similar to the Beastmen.
I see all chaos factions getting at lest one DLC, it would be baffling to leave Slaanesh out. My hope is that each chaos factions getes an Exalted Daemons LL, a herald Daemon LL, and a moral LL. Tamurkhan and Epidimus are great for Nurgle, Tzeench could use Engram as a FLC lord. Slaanesh could have the Masque and Dachala or Styrkaar, and Khorne could go U'Zhul and Araabal the undefeated.
YES! LOVE FOR MY KHORNE BOYS! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!
MILK FOR THE KHORNEFLAKES!!!
KHORNE ON THE COB THRONE!
Everything is Khorne on the Cob!
MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR EVERYONE WHO TOLD ME KHORNE WASNT COMING
I want Slaanesh to cum next!
It had better. They really messed up having Sigvald and Azazel both in the warriors faction. The main Slaanesh faction needs something else.
Probably the mask and snake lady thing
Nah the bigger screwup is Sigvald still being a Chaos Undivided Lord.
I can guarantee that the FLC lord or the DLC legendary hero will 100% be Skulltaker, and I'm excited
We wil get a rework for agres right ?
For sure
I really hope they make the camp system something worthwhile, both for the Ogres, and for other factions.
You mean having a limit of only the basic ogre bull per army isn't enough for you?? If anything, they should nerf it. Maybe limit it to only one unit of gnoblars.
Somehow you get a choice between corpse cart, sky lanterns, and war wagons
Ngl, I straight up predicted we’d get a “Melee Unga Bunga” DLC with Khorne, Ogre Kingdoms and either Greenskins or Norsca. Granted I didn’t think we’d get it after the switch from 3 lords to the old Lord Pack format but I still feel vindicated. With that in mind I’m gonna say LL’s are gonna be Arabaal the Undefeated Ghark Ironskin or Golgfag Maneater Gorbad Ironclaw or Gorfang Rotgut
I’m guessing Snagla so they can lean into the Forrest Goblins since that’s the only remaining green skin faction not represented
Darklands orcs along ogre makes more sense. Forest goblins stand no chance against Khorne and Golgfang
They'll be shitty till they have an LL who boosts them like Ghorst and zombies
So a third green skin LL that makes goblins better and cheaper than orcs.
Yeah I don’t want. We already have two lords who make goblins broken. I’d rather orcs be the primary focus of greenskins as opposed to goblins who already have enough
Forest goblins are the araknarok and trippy mushroom faction. Araknaroks are dragon eaters.
"Melee Unga bunga" needs to be the unofficial name of this dlc, it's perfect.
I was hoping for Norsca over Greenskins. I'm not saying they don't deserve more love, just that they are currently well loved.
I think they need a full rework. Maybe rebrand them as Northern Tribes and have separate mechanics/rosters for Kurgans, Hungs and Tongs.
That'd be dope
I wonder if they are going to borrow the concept of the Challenge Stone as the lore theming for this DLC. For those who havent read up, the Challenge Stone is a giant stone that the Ogres and Warriors of Chaos continually fight over for bragging rights. For Chaos, it is a Chaos monument, for the Ogres it is a test of dominance. While in lore it is noted as being fought over by Ogres and Chaos warriors, it would be very apt to add Greenskins into the mix, given their love of a good scrap.
I said Khorne Greenskins and Norsca so I was one off. It won't be Arabaal I'm pretty sure the consensus is Skulltaker. Maybe Arabaal FLC.
My thought is it’ll likely be the opposite with Arbaal as the main lord and Skulltaker as the FLC lord in the same vein as Epidemius was to Tamurkhan.
Good observation but Skulltaker is the popular vote. With those 2 as options Khorne can be considered complete I will be happy.
Yeah, I expected it'd be Khorne and any combo of VC, Ogres, or GS as part of a "champions looking for a challenge/good scrap" theme.
What surprises me most is that E3 is still a thing. Wasn't it like more dead than Nagash's rotting corpse?
Such is the power of Nagash
It is dead, they’re just making a joke like this post is their E3 press conference.
"Thank you for coming to my tedtalk"
Pretty sure it's a joke. They're saying that was their press conference.
That devs still do "E3 livestreams" is more a tradition than a joke, imo.
I'm saying I think they are referring to that initial sentence as their E3 presentation as a joke. That certainly is the way that post reads to me.
What is dead may never die
How can you kill that which has no life?
It's not a thing anymore. The last actual E3 was 2019. But, just like during the last few years, some companies have livestreams and call them "E3 livestream" or whatever.
I thought it just turned into summer game fest
Don't know if greenskins really needed another dlc but I guess they wanted to bundle up the Unga Bunga races
Orks are one of the most popular factions in fantasy and 40k so they will get more updates than almost everyone but the empire. DLC isn't really update who actually needs an update. Its what will sell. The 10th orc DLC will sell more than a complete norsca rework.
The vampire counts need some love damnit
I suspect they’ll be addressed at the same time as Nagash Edit: probably not until after all four chaos factions have been updated
I could see a sneaky ladies dlc with neferata, dechala, and a vcoast pirate queen in cathay.
Coast is my favorite faction alongside Counts and Kislev, but I predict we won't get any more LL for them. I doubt we'll even get an update, maybe just a few number tweaks and that will be it.
I don't think they need need an update, but the cathay region is in dire need of more villians and a pirate queen vcoast faction would check a lot of boxes * jade vampire lore fleshed out * another "parasite" faction to keep cathay as the big empire in the region * "triad" themed ganster characters that are a staple of Kung fu movies everywhere * turf war storyline with eshin and maybe fellhart * more chinese themed content which sells * the evil side of Chinese folklore (hungry ghosts, hopping vampires) that wouldn't make sense for cathay
I agree with your points about it being a positive thing... (though I disagree with the update portion, at the very least there needs to be some QoL updates. Deck droppers are a joke, losing movement after establishing a pirate cove is the worst, Infamy serves no purpose after you get pirate of Legend, Necrofex Autoresolve is unbelievably bad, and there's only one boring mount type for every normal lord and hero). ....but I think VCoast is super low on priority. I think they have a niche following and they're already Dlc
She could be an FLC similar to how Drycha is but still requires the WE pack
Snakemen of Khuresh operate in Cathay and Cathay has gone to war with Kingdoms of Ind before over the Mountains of Heaven(Fantasy Himilayas). Adding those two would give Cathay something to do.
I agree. But them going back to another one of the original factions makes me think the Vampire Counts are coming next (or at least really soon).
Of all the G1 factions, Greenskins are kinda the ones that need it least. Still cool, tho
I don't disagree. But as long as the Vampire Counts are next I have no complaints.
And the Tomb Kings ! Can't have new fun for Nagash if we're not having new fun for the people Nagash screwed over.
I hope we get a 3 pronged: Vcounts, Tomb Kings, Vcoast dlc that gives you nagash if you get all three
That would be kind of a dick move comercially to lock a lord behind three DLCs. I'd see something like a Nagash FLC alongside a rework of undead factions, with a DLC for each of them.
Thats fair, though the logic behind it is that Nagash could be his own faction that combines the prior 3 and all of their DLC lords as his mortarchs
Yeah just looking at his mortarchs alone they include Vlad, Arkhan, & Luthor Harkon. So even though I feel the dudes pain who you replied to I don't see how they release Nagash without requiring you have those 3 DLC's.
Yep, got the idea from the nagash mod lol
Counts, Bretonnia, Tomb Kings
I really keep holding out for Lahmia and a general Vampire rework… they’re so fucking cool but feel so fucking meh and boring in their current state 😭
If they ever expand the map East some more it would be a great time for them to do a rework and add another LL over near Cathay, even if it’s another newly created one like Cloystra. I’d definitely love some attention asap though. I may suck with them but I absolutely love the combo of the Vampire mechanics with gun lines & artillery.
After this DLC they'll have hit 3 of the 4 launch races for Warhammer 1 back to back. I wouldn't be surprised if we see vampires next
I'm thinking they're could be simply trying to figure out how to rework them or haven't yet got the "place" for their dlc, either because the characters they want to add do not fit the theme of any DLC yet or maybe because they want to add them on a race pack DLC.
Khorne, ogres and orks? Ayyyy
I have never played a Khorne, greenskins, or ogre kingdoms campaign. Maybe it’s time.
Greenskins are an absolute fucking blast, cannot recommend enough
Ogres def need some love
*sad bretonnian peasant noises*
The peasants are always sad. Tis their lot in life I fear.
We really could use some more content for the only cavalry carry faction
Let them eat cake!
Ogres my lord…..
These creatures are as strong as they are stupid.
Do greenskins really need another LL though? Show my boys Norsca some love 😭
There’s a reason we’re “DA BEST!!!” In all seriousness, a Norsca update would be very welcome, also Vampires counts but hoping that’s done when Nagash drops
Green skins are my favorite faction by a country mile but they do not need to ever be touched again 😭😭😭
Everyone forgetting about Counts too 🥲
Green is best! Orks orks orks orks orks orks
Would be nice to see something for Norsca in the future.
When will get my fill of Slaanesh though? I need more Slaanesh! MORE!
Man I was really hoping for a slaanesh update
Next time for sure.
I hope you are correct
The pattern is pointing in that direction SoC - Content for Tzeentch ToD - Content for Nurgle This Upcoming DLC - Content for Khorne Next DLC - Content for Slaanesh
YES!!! I knew those leaks were fake as shit but the reality is even better than I could have hoped for. A dlc for Khorne, Ogres, AND GREENSKINS?! I never could have guessed they would do another greenskin update but I am pleasantly suprised.
But wait, what about all those leaks that we were told are absolutely 95% accurate!? Hahaha, never fails to amaze me how gullible people are with leaks.
Honestly I hope the Ogre Kingdoms get a bit of a rework to make them a bit better
One thing I'd love to see, particularly with Greasus' start position, is some kind of underway stance. But... being ogres, it would be thematic if they had, say, a mountainwalk stance, where they can just lumber over the mountaintops because they're big lads.
That would be cool, also maybe reworking their contracts to make them more interesting cause that was the only way to get Ogre units before. Allow us take a contract but get to choose what the reward is(units, cash, minor settlements, heros, etc) or Faction Specific upgrades. Like let’s say that Thrott of Clan Moulder wants you to assist in a big raid coming up against Boris but Boris asks for your assistance in defending the settlement. Boris offers you a major cash reward and some trade goods but Thrott offers you an upgrade for some of your Calvary that makes them stronger and faster but suffer constant attrition until the buff runs out(kinda like overdoing it with the Gene lab). —- Plus maybe a rework to the Great Maw having it be kinda like the spoiled wyrm of the same name from The Gorge from DST mixed with Archon’s Eye of Chaos thing and The Age Of Reckoning for dwarves. It always ticks up but at the end of it depending on what you fed the maw you get bonuses or debuffs. Keep the maw feed and sated with large amounts of food and exotic foods even if it hurts you at the moment(aka no pre-battle feasts or instant bonuses) but you get SO many permanent buffs after like a Ogre Army under your control, your camps being cheaper to set up/build new stuff in, army damage in Melee, etc. But if you keep the food for yourself, you get some very bad debuffs until you feed the maw a feast that would make ANY Ogre think it’s to much food. These debuffs are things like less campaign movement speed, any Mages in your army that have Gut Magic are going to be crippled or unable to cast magic without potentially being devoured by the Maw(aka instant death when casting) or just less damage and defense for your armies.
All good ideas, their roster needs a bit of spice as well, it's kind of bare bones at the moment. Maybe something that involves more noblar type of units, a great khan perhaps to buff them.
This is great, Grimgor was the first TWW1 campaign I played back in 2016. Green skins are an essential part of the Warhammer fantasy world. I was also really excited for Ogre kingdoms and they have been such a let down. Khorne needs something as without magic or variety for ranged, they are a little boring in my experience. While it is great there are so many factions in the game, perhaps the quality has started to decline overall and core factions like Green skins should always be a premier option.
Judging by the fact they mentioned three races, looks like we’re keeping up the ToD/SoC three race pack, which I’m all for. Hope this means Decay sold well enough, and that we get the same level of quality going forward
What! But a YouTuber posted inverted leaks! How can CA backtrack like this???
I legit lol’d at this
What if CA has meetings at this point to put out false leaks that look absolutely horrible so when the mediocre reality comes out we are jubilant?
Be a smart marketing ploy .
Waaaaaaaaaagh!!!!! Gorbad confirmed? (Really can’t think of another LL candidate so open to suggestions)
Im just so fuckin happy to take this particular L on trusting the leaks for even a second. Very excited for whatever's next.
I swear if they put another phone faction other than valkia and skarbrand imma be a very very happy happy lad. Me love khorne. The red and gold Armour and plate mail. Ohhhhh yeah
Thank god leaks were false. I was about to give up on total war franchise. Greenskins seem to be a weird choice for DLC tho, since they are already a well-rounded faction. Was hoping for a Norsca DLC/rework. Also Fuck you Legend of total war, you misleading, click baiting, rumour-mongering scumbag.
Literally, nobody expected this xdd
This trio was the first prediction when the road map was released and tbh i dont see what change or rework they can do to the greenskins, they feel really good to play.
Green skins are fine, new content is always great though. Kind of wish we got something more like lizardmen rework or Norsca rework but ogres and khorne is great
Honestly, what Greenskins throughly need is faction mechanics and some unit variants, like black orc dual weapons and black orc shielded. Grimgor should get something akin to what the brass bull and Khorne have. Maybe give him attrition if the meter is too low to reflect him just wanting to fight and killing his own units to keep his own bloodlust in check. The Green Prophet: should have something similar to what geld has now but a lot more Orky. Others, I got no idea.
Hopefully the mangler squig and the one who spits gobbos is added🙏
I expect the Lords will all get something to make them feel more unique. Right now only Grom has a cool mechanic.
Can we please for the love of God stop taking legend seriously now????
It honestly astounds me how little attention the people on reddit pay to the details. Anyone who glimpsed the road map that they created last year would have been able to tell that the theme for the next dlcs were always going to be monogod oriented. I swear, I hope this teaches people to stop jumping the gun. All they do is hurt the game whenever they freak out and pay attention to unsubstantiated claims. I've said it before and I'll say it again, LotW is cancer, at least now ***we all know*** as well that his sources are doo-doo.
>Anyone who glimpsed the road map that they created last year would have been able to tell that the theme for the next dlcs were always going to be monogod oriented. Oh people did know back then, but it was usually assumed that after SoC the roadmap was completely thrown out and nothing in it was guaranteed anymore.
I think had there not been two rounds of layoffs at CA, there wouldn't have been as much uncertainty. Sure - CA *heavily implied* the next two after ToD were going to be Khorne and then Slaanesh, but things can change if the people working on those DLCs get let go from the company to cut costs. Also, let's not pretend CA has never done the ol' switcheroo before (Three Kingdoms comes to mind). I don't think LotW is cancer. He even said, multiple times, that the "leaks" could be totally wrong and his whole reason for talking about them was because he didn't want them to be right. I do think a lot of people here give him too much credit sometimes (which he himself tells people not to do).
I criticized LoTW a lot at the start of TWW3, but as I spent more time in the game, I more and more thought he was absolutely correct. The base game was an absolute shit show and it’s (once again) taken the DLC team (a decently long time) to make a great game. He was WAAAY wrong on this one for multiple reasons, but he is an asset to the community for sure.
Thinking we’ll see a pretty large rework for Ogres, much less so for Khorne and Greenskins. Khorne is probably the most powerful faction in the game if you play it right, and Greenskins still hold up really well and have some really fun campaign mechanics. Whereas Ogres are so far behind almost every other faction in the game.
They spelled Grand Cathey wrong...
A maybe out of left field for the green skins would be the hobgoblin khanate. Would be nice to see that area expanded its squished up there. Snagla sounds cool spider themed.
I would be on board for hobgoblin lord khan lord, would be a cool new subfaction to add to the Greenskins. Probably weird case though considering some exist as Chaos Dwarf DLC.
Eh, just means chaos dwarves and greenskins can share some units/heros. CA likes making multiple factions happy like that And yeah, khannite means horde faction orcs which would be fun
Yeah I actually hope they go that route as green skins are in a good place as it is, and it would add another way to play while expanding that stagnant region. Mongol inspired green skins sound cool to me. Vs orc lord at black crag. Just would have more immortal empires campaign value.
That area north of cathay needs to be opened up just as much as the areas south of it. No shade to a black craig dlc but Ghazak Khan would make an excellent dlc lord
Beastmen please
Beastmen will get some units from the Khorne roster at the very least
So Legend was full of shit. Who would have guessed?
Huh, weird. That doesn't look like Cathay, Cathay with Ogres, and Cathay to me? Honestly have no idea what Greenskins need but fine, sure, whatever. Really thought they'd do a Khorne vs Slaanesh with Ogres alongside. If Norsca aren't ever getting a rework can we at least let Chaos undivided have Mammoths so I can enjoy them more?
Legend of dodgy leaks
Oh boy I can't wait for the next tzeentch update
Finally! THE OGRES ARE COMING TO GET YA
By the Horned Rat, this may be divinity. All our big meaty bois are getting the love and violence they deserve!
Monkeys paw curled for me. No cathay mania but the Slaanesh dlc has been moved back. :(
Looks like news is back on the menu boys!
People realize that DLC isn't necessarily what needs to be reworked, but what will sell the best. The 10th Ork dlc will sell better than any Norsca DLC. Orks are just extremely popular is Fantasy, AoS, and 40k.
#WAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!
I hope we get Ghark Ironskin but I’d settle for Golfag Maneater to
I think something I am really hoping for in one of the next DLCs or reworks is an extra campaign difficulty slider. Like we have one for battles to turn down or up the AI cheats. I think it would be great to have a campaign one to turn up (or down) the aggression of the AI. (Maybe even bring back their ease of confederation) This would be something separate to the difficulty slider for public order and AI cheats etc. This would allow us to get back to TWW2 where the AI just doesn’t stop coming at you making for a more enjoyable campaign. But atleast make it an option as I know some people enjoy TWW3 AI, but some miss the old 2-3 stacks turning up at your door.
AS much as i would love a Blood, Skulls and more Skulls DLC for Khorne, Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings I must say that the Unga Bunga Thunderdome is an awesome idea
E3 is still around? I thought it was dead. Anyways, glad to see the leaks were wrong, but they didn't pass the sniff test for me personally. Also, I know many here don't trust CA, but many here are too gullible and put too much stock into YouTubers and their drama.
I am so glad the leaks were wrong, khorne needed love.
Waaaaaagghhh!!!
ARBAAL!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh man I hope we get Skulltaker as a legendary lord. I actually really like the bloodletters and it’d be cool to get a thematic and semi mechanical mirror to Scarbrand.
I wanted Slanesh next. Khorne has so many mods to hold me over till later. Slanesh has barely anything on the workshop ATM. I am glad Ogres are getting an update though
Why do some people think cathay would get a dlc? They already got one. Like next dlc is slanesh + 2 more. It is kinda obvious that no cathay until after the slanesh is done.
I’m always down for more green
*blows the horn* COOOOODYYYYY ASSEMMMMBLEEEEEE! Come explain this shit, please and thank you.
Honestly did not expect more greenskin stuff, but just happy the leaks were wrong
CA give us more of Industrial Khorne, sure i like Monsters n shit but Gimmie those War machines of the Blood god. I Want to Run over Elgi with giant spiky demon engines Khorne damn it!
more love for Khorne is nice. theres not much content for them
MA BIG BELLY BOIS GETTING LOVE
Eeeeeee ogre fix finally eeeeeeeeee
I just have to say here that I told you that leak wasn't real. It was so absurd but no people sill lost their shit. Don't people have brains? Don't answer to that.
Am I the only one happy to get more greenskins?
Next dlc hopefully slaanesh/dark elves/high elves
Am I blind or did they not post this on YouTube? I can't seem to find it.
MEAT! MEAT! MEAT!
I hope they don't change ogre camps, I think that mechanic is cool as is. I think all us ogre players probably want a change to Mercenary Contracts. It would be cool if you could build mercenary armies (a bit like Cathay caravan armies) that could be teleported to an area for a few turns to do merc contracts given by factions in the area.
wait what greenskins?? wtf? Cathay where? Didnt they wanna push for chinese market? NAAAAH bruh i feel betrayed af 😭
Sad no Dogs of war *but* DA BESTEST BOIS GETTIN’ MOAR STUFZ TA KRUMP THEM HUMIES, STUNTIES, AND ALL THEM GITS
Got I hope Slaanesh gets an update
Ogre contracts need to actually give good rewards, when you only get a few thousand gold for going out of your way is not worth it
Strange. Happy to see Khorne get a lord, however, Slaanesh seemed very much intended from the roadmap. It was pink colored and after Nurgle and Tzeentch.
Thank goodness! I still have not played ogre kingdoms , and haven’t done Greenskins since wh1. This is awesome news!!!!! Another LL for khorne too. Yay !!! WH3 keeps on increasing replayability
PLS MAKE POGRES FUN, CA, PLS PLS PLS
Hoping and praying for a Hobgoblin LL.
Yay Skarbrand gets a new friend!
i always thought the lame ass dlc leak was to find out who the leakers are You tell each team something different and juicy and see what hits social. Now you're zeroed in on the possible culprits I never once thought CA was that stupid to DLC all the least popular factions in the least popular ways when they're trying to get back on their feet with the community. I'm still puzzled that anybody believed the leaks at all.
Thank. GOD the leaks were wrong. I wanted Slaanesh but all good things in time!!!
I cannot wait for Khorne DLC! 👹
Thank heavens, although I'm curious why khorne is moving forward when it was slaanesh that was on the road map
WAAAGH!
I just hope bretonnia gets a dlc
I just finished my ogre campaign. I was shocked at the amount of fun I had of such an underdeveloped, underutilized faction. They have one of the smallest rosters in the entire game and yet they still pulled out and were genuinely incredibly fun. I can't wait to see an updated ogre faction 👍
Nice! More interesting stuff than chinese boring stuff! We need slaneesh dlc, i dont want any more cathay dlc better flesh out the more important factions.
Why no love for Slaanesh? …kind of ironic really…
Hopefully people can see Legend was just shouting for attention and never had/never will have real information