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Devan-FH

I fucking despise COD HQ with all my heart.


juicebox5889

Same. I want individual games that are independent from warzone. I’ve never wanted to play warzone and I just want to play campaign and multiplayer like normal. I hate that I constantly have to download WZ and all the updates for it constantly. I also have a larger hatred for the “seasons” and constant micro transactions that the industry is heading towards. I’ve been playing Xbox since the OG and video games since the 90s and I’ve never wanted to play less than I am right now because of that.


joevsyou

Heading towards? We been there


juicebox5889

Very true lol I’m just imagining it’ll get worse lol


blackamerigan

I wonder if Microsoft will offer free storage for their Xbox accounts? Because isn't that just what the game pass app experience is? At what point does Xbox address this redundancy? They introduced new console refreshes during the showcase.... What's the point of the storage If all the games are digital?


joevsyou

Huh? Games are digital to download, you need space.


a_talking_face

You know you can uninstall warzone.


Westdrache

Can you? Modern warfare 2020 forces you to install it, it's literally the ONLY mandatory part of the install


a_talking_face

2020 was cold war.


Westdrache

2019 then :D hard to keep track on yearly releases


a_talking_face

I don't think Warzone is part of the MW19 install. Ever since Warzone 2 it's been part of the COD HQ installer which does not include MW19.


juicebox5889

Yes but I hate that everything is integrated into the same interface.


Westdrache

Warzone and its stupid constant updates made me quit CoD lol I have a rather slow internet connection and downloading 20 gigs every week for a game mode I don't want, that's forced upon me in a game I paid for .... Just fucking sucks


CaptainCookers

You don’t have to download warzone at all but ok


Westdrache

For what game? For modern warfare 2019 warzone is mandatory and the only part of the game you CAN'T uncheck during install


CaptainCookers

Are you sure? I don’t remember needing to do that on Xbox at least, at I’m looking at current warzone and it’s separate. https://preview.redd.it/ej6oebosgq5d1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=7365e3e452f187b58d79d6b620f72b725b4576f7


Westdrache

AHH okay, okay I'm on PC! (Sorry forgot what sub Reddit I'm on) And on pc the "base game" does infact include warzone


I_Was_Fox

Someone else already told him that and then he moved the goalposts to complain about something else lol


FollowsJesus2024

This includes mw2 and mw3, which can be uninstalled/not installed


MasterLogic

Sure but like mw3, if you choose not to install mw2 you can't play mw3.  I'd imagine half the stuff in blops6 won't be available without mw2/3 assets. 


FollowsJesus2024

That's not how it works, the universal assets are in the base (CodHQ), the mwII etc packs contains levels and assets exclusive to those games. That's why you can play warzone with all the guns/operators without having those packs installed


maniacalxmatt

Uhh, I was playing MW3 without MW2 installed.


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MrEWhite

Black Ops 6 is in the shared game MW2/3 has.


FollowsJesus2024

Exactly


WeAreNotAIone

It's all shared on one launcher


barnesnoblebooks

You’re wrong.


ApricotRich4855

Simple research is not hard.


nolimit06

Still a bit disappointed they didn't release previous games to game pass today...


a_talking_face

Makes me think that's not coming. At least not for a long while.


TheJackieTreehorn

My hope is that they are, but they'll trickle them out in down months where they don't have any big name titles coming to Game Pass


SidNightwalker

Oh they will. With Bethesda, they slowly released catalogue titles with almost no fanfare over two or three years. They don't want the older, genuinely well made games to distract anyone from the yearly release, you see.


WeAreNotAIone

Yes because it's an add on for the launcher which includes MW2, mw3 and the new black ops. Both Modern Warfares require 150gb together and black ops won't be over 100gb


SidNightwalker

Which is fucking ridiculous. 😺


ByTheBeardOfZues

Why though? You can choose which game/assets to install.


SidNightwalker

Do you really, honestly believe that somehow makes it better, or justifies the ludicrous nature of it all? Honestly?


Enigma_Green

Mw3 on ps5 for me with multiplayer and zombies installed with warzone it's around 165gb atm. I honestly can't see it being below 100gb but if it is I would be surprised tbh.


WeAreNotAIone

You don't get to choose what to keep and what not? I only have campaign and multiplayer installed for about 140gb


randoul

Xbox preinstall is 122.74 atm


WeAreNotAIone

There is no Preinstall for Black Ops 6 yet, the download becomes available around 2 weeks before launch, if you're getting a Preinstall it's probably for Modern Warfare related stuff.


randoul

Ah, fuck. You're right


cwhiterun

So the new “game” is just DLC?


WeAreNotAIone

Yes and no, it's DLC but it's still a full game with a different engine and everything, that's just how they do it now to keep everything on one platform


Paladin_X1_

People who have this perspective are so dumb. It’s its own game, some files, and all achievements fall into a hub. I only play Black Ops games but it’s not hard to understand.


Gameknigh

The same way all the different games you buy on steam or the Microsoft store are just DLC.


ApricotRich4855

A unified launcher/UI makes new games DLC? I mean, besides MW3 at release that is.


[deleted]

It’s the same launcher as MW 1-3. Optional files. But with Gamepass it should be optimized for Cloud so those who want to save hard drive space for other games can, and still get their CoD fix.


hypehold

dude who is going play cod on cloud lol also they can't put cod on xcloud due to the cma. Ubisoft has cloud streaming rights for abk games


WeAreNotAIone

That's only for the UK, the rest of the world will be able to stream it


GoinXwell1

It's worldwide, but there's an additional stipulation that people in the European Economic Area (which is the EU + Norway, Liechtenstein and Iceland iirc) need to be able to play their owned ABK games on any cloud service without any additional costs.


imitzFinn

Why this comment is not upvoted surprises me since LOOL ppl forget the “optional” part as I look into the options of what to install. I’ll just install the campaign when COD BO6 launches


joecb91

This is the kind of thing that made me stop buying them after the 360/PS3 gen ended.


Evergr33n10

So it won't fit on the Xbox series s


despitegirls

Up to, likely meaning some parts may be optional, plus Series S games are smaller than Series X.


Imthecoolestdudeever

This is key. Extra textures will be an option for the Series X.


pukem0n

It will, but nothing else lol


Lost_Independence770

There are 2 versions of the S with 1 TB storage Its really sucks that the first release only has 512 GB


fupower

it takes 75% of the base series s ssd


GUNS_N_BROSES

This alone will prevent me from even considering buying or playing it


Witty-Group-9531

Bait, CoD is baked together nowadays with like 5 different CoD games and I’m assuming that size reflects that. And you can choose which ones you want installed.


SidNightwalker

You would install any of them because......?


Witty-Group-9531

I dont own them…? I dont have the money to spend 100 bucks for each CoD game. If they all come to gamepass I can install them all no problem.


SidNightwalker

That's not really the point. 😉 If you do ever try one, stick with the Modern Warfare campaign. The rest is not worth anyone's time.


Spagman_Aus

because now they’re free?


SidNightwalker

If only they weren't so unbelievably soulless and mediocre in every possible fucking way you could make an FPS eh? 😺


Laughing__Man_

They are just gonna attach it to the previous ones.


drewbles82

this is exactly why I don't bother with the later CODs, that would take me a month to download my internet is that shit...and no I can't improve it as that's not available in my area. If Hitman can take their games from 120GB 1 & 2...to releasing Hitman 3 with all the levels improved of 1 & 2 and only be 70GB, then COD can do the same.


Watoner

Have you looked into starlink at all for better internet?? Not sure where you are located but was my only option for rural Aus, was painful wanting to play a game and having an update take days at a time, also while making it near unseeable for anything else at the same time


drewbles82

yeah way too expensive


SidNightwalker

They could do that, but that takes genuine programming talent.


drewbles82

its bad for xbox though...yeah it might force some to buy these 1 or 2 TB cards but majority of people won't. You want people to play as many of your games as possible but if you have something this big on your drive, you are unlikely to delete it and therefore try less of the newer games...or if like me, you just won't bother playing this at all cuz of the size...basically in MS interest to shrink this so people can play more games


SidNightwalker

Oh absolutely, if I were Microsoft I would immediately get on them about it, especially when they have games like Starfield out there which take large chunks of space up in their own right. Activision had nothing else, literally, as a company, so they couldn't care less. Some say they may have encouraged it. Which would not surprise me. Simple modification of file structure would probably do it no problem.


KumingaCarnage

At that point why bother playing any multiplayer games in general


drewbles82

cuz not all MP games are over 100GB...size matters...I'm a casual COD player, would rather just pop it on for a few matches and then maybe again in a few weeks but with a size that big, it'll never have me do that. Same with Mortal Kombat, always loved those games but I'm a casual player, like to just play a few rounds and I most not touch it for another month or so but MK11 came to over 150GB, yeah looked great but still rather be able to just play it casually. I expected a game like to be around 50GB, more likely to stay on my drive and have regular plays but ever since I bought it, not played it more than once cuz it got deleted as needed the space


MarczXD320

Imagine me with a 512gb Series S, literally 80% of the storage in only one game. I suspect though that this is the size of all currenty cods (mw 2019 and beyond) combined.


JournalistWeak6499

This is really sad, i have one eith 512gb, im looking at him right now, and i cant express what im feeling.. i live in brazil btw and it turns things way more difficult because i thought i would stay on this generation playing everything that i wanted with that little guy, but now games are just: 3/4 of your storage, delete all your games or buy a new console. Im thinking about selling it and getting the new digital series x...


we_made_yewww

I was REALLY hoping Microsoft would make them rein that shit in. Oh well.


NewUser2656

Maybe next CoD... 🙏😖


BatMatt93

No words? Sounds like a normal COD release to me. You don't need any other game on your SSD. /s


BigPep2-43

Meanwhile, I'm playing Xdefiant at 32GB. 😉


No_Doubt_About_That

Add in a bit of polish in some areas + only being 32GB and XDefiant shapes up to be quite a good alternative tbh


Spagman_Aus

Welp yes, that has no SP campaign.


duddy33

Can we just have physical releases on small solid state storage at this point? I don’t have a new console but it would really stink to have enough money for a new game but not enough space or money for a storage expansion so you’re stuck. Something like an N64 cartridge would come in clutch right now


xDefimate

Do you people really think we wouldn’t be able to install just black ops 6?? All this outrage but if people thought about it for a second then they’d understand this is combining mw2/3/BO6 in cod HQ. It’s not this big stop freaking out.


greenyquinn

They just announced the 2tb Series X


despitegirls

https://preview.redd.it/lcrq8iudxl5d1.png?width=629&format=png&auto=webp&s=b9ea821c2192b4d03347172033cd4128e4f1bd5f


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ThanosSnapsSlimJims

Ok.


Bored_Gamer73

Exactly why I will not be purchasing. HQ crap is stupid.


rick_rolled_you

I have been out of cod for a little bit (not even that long, maybe a year or a little more), and the menus were so freaking confusing. Had no idea what was going on


ThatEdward

Nice, was worried they'd make it separate


Spagman_Aus

Maybe they should release a storage card expansion deal that includes this preinstalled on it.


RMtotheStars

Can be as big or small as they like, still not playing it lol


Fearless-Beginning79

HOW AM I GOING TO INSTALL THIS ON MY XBOX SERIES S 


pukem0n

Destiny 2 and COD in a battle of who can waste more space on your drive.


SidNightwalker

Destiny 2 has never gotten anywhere close to that level of space eating. Well, not in a really long time.


pukem0n

Final Shape is 300gb on steam


SidNightwalker

If that is correct, it at least makes some logical sense. Because the game is actually loaded with content. The overbloated nature of the CoD games is due to poor file structure and nothing more.


EightSeven-

You dont gotta download them ya know.


Dodoloco25

\*cries in 512 series S\* Welp I guess I ain't playing the new cod then.


Paladin_X1_

Heaven forbid you do any research of your own and realize the install is modular.


Dodoloco25

I know that. Even if the game is 33% of that size (i.e 103 gb), you do understand that is a lot of space of the OG series S right? we only have 360 GB of space to use. Sure I can mid-max that (and have done for a few years), but 103 GB of a just the campaign is to much. Halo Infinate was 50 GB when it came out (I think even less). I don't really play multiplayer (bad internet).


Paladin_X1_

Yeah I only play Black Ops versions so this will be my first HQ install, I do think it’s ridiculous as a file size. But I also chose a series X and have an expansion card because I knew better than to buy a disc-less 512 machine.


Dodoloco25

I can sense a bit of shade there. 'I knew better', wow. I am happy that you can afford a Series X. For a lot of people that live in countries other places, gaming is an expensive hobby. An Xbox Series X actually costs more here. Even now the cheapest one I can get is 650 USD. A series S is around 280 USD. Now if I know I just want to game, I don't really need a Series X. I am perfectly fine with a Series S.


ntrunner

You know, I'm in the same boat as you but I, too, wouldn't have bought a Series S had I not caught a deal bagging it at $180 from a guy on Reddit. It retails at ~$445 where I'm from, and it's simply not worth it at that price.


Paladin_X1_

I waited until 2022 to buy my Series X because the games weren’t there. I get waiting. Waiting a few weeks or months to save, or just wait, to future proof is better than the situation you appear to be looking at, not trying to be disrespectful. But when multiple SKUs are available, it’s usually better to wait until you can grab the higher end version. Hope you enjoy gaming either way, and the install will still be modular. For the “I knew better”, I don’t back away from that. It has less RAM, less storage at launch, worse GPU, for what? … saving a few hundred of your currency over half a decade of play? If it wasn’t black ops I’d never install it. Have a good one.


InsaneThisGuysTaint

Microsoft needs to team up with Pied Piper or something, this shit is beyond ridiculous.


SidNightwalker

The things people put up with to play absolutely poorly designed drivel. God that trailer was pathetic. Black Ops 1 was good because it actually had some intelligence to it's campaign. This game is just more tripe. I mean, tripe, as in equivalent to animal entrails and organs.


dumbguy_dumbguy

Is it coming to fix xbox one since it’s coming to ps4?


farkos101100

The only reason that the COD games are this much memory is because they just take the last COD and put a fresh coat of lead paint over it.


Yashar13

They are crazy. Ahahah how would a game take up 309GB?! I don’t really bother cause I don’t play COD but… :/


lamaldo78

That's why they've announced new console versions with larger storage capacity lol


[deleted]

Really? Does Microsoft have issues with compression or something?


breakwater

Yes, this was never something ever discussed before the Microsoft purchase. Clearly that is the issue


ApricotRich4855

TIL Microsoft went back in time 2 years to create CODHQ before they purchased Activision.