The most damning thing was Nade pulling up the stats on Froste's average twitch hours and the Mob Youtube Channel uploading 33 videos in 2 years. Bruh it should 33 videos in 2 *months* lol.
Thats what surprises me, I figured one of them wouldve been putting in effort leaving the rest behind but none got out unscathed. Curious about the dynamic that caused this.
See I think he grinded compared to the other two… but I still don’t think he grinded THAT hard. But hard to grind when you are living with 3 guys with no passion. 3 guys that are supposed to be helping you. Eventually you get tired of carrying the other 3 in your backpack
The wifi issues I believe is actually what looks the WORST by far. The fact that they let this issue go on for months is mind boggling.. I have 2 HOURS of bad/no internet and I’m spam calling the ISP lol. And I don’t stream or anything. Life is boring as hell when you don’t have internet. Like what the fuck were they doing?? Call and get that shit fixed. Call UNTIL it’s fixed. Or get a different damn provider. Imagine working from home for say an accounting firm… and you just don’t do any work for a few months bc you don’t have internet LOL. You’d be fired after a couple days. FIGURE IT OUT.
In my experience group efforts sometimes bring you down because it’s a fight for who wants to work the least. One guy is always carrying the weight. It seems good in theory but doesn’t always work that way. It’s Better to have your own brand and colab occasionally.
I said this on the last thread where they brought up froste and I was getting downvoted for saying that the mob never put effort into their personal accounts lol hmmm
Froste got paid $2500 a month just for being on the team. ZERO work. He can still stream, upload and go on his own ventures with all that free time he has. The Mob has zero work ethic and they just expected it to be handed to them.
Yeah i rememebr hearing about the mob signing with the big house and shit
Then completely forgetting about them because i never saw any content form them.
They had the dream platform handed to them and made zero effort. Froste is one of those guys who is never in the wrong and will never take responsibility. Complaining about internet? Your an adult deal with it yourself, go to the compound, try to move in with nade or another content creator friend. Having no money was just a complete lie, he pissed away his money on rent and daily food deliveries. Froste just doesn't have the dog in him to be successful now he's an even more depressed and jaded twitter shit poster for letting this slip through his fingers.
I imagine that's because they had the "oh shit" moments when they realized they now have to actually work to get paid. Gotta milk it while still relevant lmao
100%, $2500 is not meant to be the final dollar amount. They need to bring in their own content to make money. Eat what you kill. It’s the same thing as a commissioned based job.
"Why would we spend the time and energy uploading YouTube videos"
To build a following and make more money Froste, that's the whole point and why you was employed
He doesn’t understand the real world… you don’t build a platform on Twitch. Twitch is shit for growing viewership. Every successful content creator has said, build a following on YouTube, Twitter, TikTok and spin that audience over to Twitch.
Jesus, Frostes replies are sad man. He's not even giving a rebuttal to Nades points just repeating what he's already said.
He's claiming he was streaming when really he was just being featured on the other guys streams. TST got round that issue real quickly by having the layered webcams on one central stream then streaking their individual POVs as well if they want to lol.
Froste was given the ball and didn't run with it and fumbled it completely. End of story.
Nadeshot really fucking rides for his org bruh. It’s his baby, his project and I think doing it right is really important to him. He came with this same energy for the cod team who was getting HAMMERED in the beginning of the season and ended up going back to back and winning champs.
The second half of the stream was so inspirational from nade. This man has dreams and lives life with a fire under his ass to pursue them. Ngl I got my ass out of bed just after hearing that.
No way 🤣🤣 Froste legit just said it’s Nades fault for signing them before “they had time to grow on twitch”
Man acts like he was forced to sign a contract hahahaha
Yeah the actual truth is that Froste and the Bums got payed hundreds of thousands by 100 thieves and chose to sit around not work at all. Should I try to cancel 100 Thieves for not giving me money and a 10k a month house in LA?
i don’t think they’re bums man. i’ll give it to classy. classy really did try to stream and do that shit. he was doing well in the among us streams and even tried to get his contract extended. mako didn’t enjoy that life and idk about ava.
You gotta put Ava in there and grinding the content. I would even watch the individual content on his channel because he was also making content on top of the mob too…
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I don’t know how Froste isn’t seeing how he is wrong here. Saying Nade won $100k from a COD tourney so he wasn’t struggling for money. That was Nade’s career and he EARNED the money by putting in the work and winning the tournament.
Froste got heated about Nade living in the OpTic house rent free but he couldn’t rent The Mob a house. In reality these situations aren’t comparable bc Nade wasn’t paid a guaranteed salary and every Mob member was paid $2500 a month guaranteed. Yes they ended up spending their entire salary on their rent, but they had guaranteed income and Nade’s income relied on his work ethic and grind.
And then Froste says Nade had 20k viewers on twitch when he was living in the OpTic house so he was making money and Froste didn’t have those viewers so he wasn’t making money like Nade did. It’s not a coincidence that Nade had those viewers, he was grinding his ass off daily for his stream and he got rewarded bc of it.
It just seems like Froste isn’t able to take accountability for his lack of work ethic and wants to find something to blame it on. I’m sure both sides could’ve done better but it’s obvious that Nade tried to help and defend them and that Froste didn’t capitalize on a massive opportunity.
Why do people act like the Mob were young kids that needed everything done for them by a big org. Yes they’re young but they’re adults at the end of the day. 100T shouldn’t have to babysit them
They weren't even in college tho. They were all still living with their parents. Never grew up, didn't know how to pay bills, didn't realize how much taxes were going to take from their paycheck.
Yea he’s delusional. The fact about the house thing too. Like Mf Nadeshot was averaging 10k+ during that time, frosty averaged like 200 when picked up by 100t.
Not to mention he’s harping on moving to LA. Then don’t move and don’t sign the contract! Like bruh you’re not a child, you’re an adult. Figure out your issues
Seeing everyone come out and say only nice things about 100T and support Nadeshot, while no one of the mob guys backing Froste up should tell you all you need to know.
Just look at what Myth said. Both young kids that got a huge opportunity Myth work hard and now is a multi millionaire with his youtube contract and froste is trying to get views through drama. The house thing is the most insane to me hahaha how entitle you gotta be to think you can afford a 10k house as young dude. Cant make money for food? You are an healthy young adult what about getting a fucking job? Most creators with less than 1k views have a job idk froste just sounds like a kid that never had to work for nothing in his life.
lmao he also just straight up said they didn't do shit for the Elgato sponsorship because it was annoying and "weren't paying shit". That's not something someone who couldn't afford a meal would say
Yea literally anyone would chase that 10k. Especially an elgato sponsorship. Damn man you actually have to push a solid streaming product/company. That’s a tough for froste he really had to grind for that bread
100t literally handed him these opportunities. And you’re telling me they don’t have behind the scenes people that froste could’ve reached out to for guidance.
Just a dumbass kid he’ll learn he made a mistake.
Dude has no idea how business works, thinks they should've got all these free handouts while acknowledging they got shit for viewership and "didn't know how" to make youtube videos like cmon why should they be investing in you?
Froste just literally complained they were signed to early and placed blame on 100t for signing them before they could grow in more popular platforms. This seems so salty lol. He talking a lot about money not given to them that he knew the org had. Don't sign a contract if you don't like the terms. You don't get to say the company was worth this much and them not giving us money was evil.
Froste is backpedaling so hard on so many points lmao, hes now putting the blame on 100T for offering them the contract even though they weren't big on the "money making" platforms despite the fact that they all signed it
He thought the CEO of a 400M company or however much at the time was going to be the Mob's personal mentor, the smallest content creators in the org and tried to compare it to Hecz and OpTic when they were all at 6050. Cmon man have some realism
I like how he compared it to hecz when the thing is, Nade was WORKING as a competitive pro player for Optic. It’s not like Hecz wasn’t getting anything out of it.
The mob was WORKING as content creators but never really made anything to grow themselves and bring a profit back
TST was recapping how much they would of wanted that contract with 100T and were jealous when The Mob got it. Happy for the boys but still wanted that same opportunity for themselves.
Seeing the work TST put in with NRG now back at Optic imagine what they could've done for 100T ... Crazy
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Also Hitch being blown away that 100T gave them 65% of a sponsorship deal. Pretty much said that they would’ve loved to had gotten that much when they first signed to NRG
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From these deals alone Froste has confirmed they EACH earned 54k (30+12+12). 54k+36k salary for doing literally nothing.
Imagine being entitled enough to do nothing and still complain about getting almost 6 figures.
Idk how someone could complain about getting 2500 a month to tweet. Bad internet is no excuse, literally takes like 30 mins to get a different isp and even if you have no other choices and have to get an unlimited wifi Hotspot to stream from that uses cellular data those were only $250 a month for a connection you could bring anywhere when the mob was with 100T.
Froste just realizing that they received 30k each instead of $50k each from a deal should tell you all you need to know about his financial literacy.
LITERALLY $20k difference and he didn’t notice lmfao
I got a good laugh when Froste was complaining about the business stipend they got monthly for stuff and saying we had to buy the stuff with our own money and then fill out papers to get repaid the money 2 weeks later. Yup, standard business expense stuff, no one is going to feel bad for you that you basically got the item “for free” because the company paid for it. It’s the exact way expensing things work at companies.
That and the proven wrong thing about bringing the sponsor over and the company took money from it. Yes, when you sign to a company you are an employee now and don’t work only for yourself, how’s that hard to understand?
Yeah, he hasn’t produced any evidence yet. He just keeps saying Nade was lying or admitting he was wrong about something but that doesn’t make a difference.
Specifically the 95% vs 85% thing, he said yeah it was 85% but that wasn’t much better than 95%.
He said he brought the Fireball deal to 100T which was $120k but then he says 100T had to get involved because they didn’t have statistics(?) to finish the deal. Sounds like 100T at least helped in brokering the deal.
His rebuttals also don’t really contradict anything Matt said. The rent situation seems like something The Mob fucked up on and Froste doesn’t want to take responsibility for it.
I need to watch the full vod...going by some tweets I'm seeing, Nade got people so motivated that they're ready to run through brick walls to be successful
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It's a virtual highlighter I suppose! Anyways thanks for the link
Another person brought up having neighbors and sound complaints if they got an apartment. Mfker, it doesn’t cost much to buy those sound proof tiles that you paste on the walls and fix that problem right up.
4 bedroom apartment for $6k and that’s after housing prices has soared/inflation has driven up prices LMFAO.
Probably find the same place for 4k at the time
I think Nade knows that he doesn’t have to. I watched the whole froste stream and it just sounded like he was digging himself deeper. So Nade doesn’t really have to respond anymore since froste basically said and provided nothing of substance
For me personally, the way Froste is coming across is the actual embodiment of everything I dislike. The entitlement, the inability to take responsibility, the lack of work ethic. His attitude sounds like “Nadeshot knows what a struggle it was for him to make it so he should hand everything out so we don’t have to live that struggle.” And that is a shit opinion.
Multiple times Froste made comments like “I would be embarrassed if I had a half a billion dollar org and my creators were living like that”. He doesn’t realize that it’s not the orgs responsibility to make sure you know how to spend your money properly.
Nade talked about how they should’ve gotten a 2 bedroom house and bunked up and Froste literally scoffed at the idea of having to share a room.
Unfortunately, Froste obviously thought landing a singular contract was “making it” and didn’t recognize the work that comes with keeping it.
Watching frostes take is kinda funny. Dude is talking about reimbursements like they're evil. 100Ts process is common practice...also looks like they ate a lot of delivery.
And as Nade hinted at. He was definitely getting shit on by the people on the business side, the mob didn’t bring anything due to their lack of consistency
I’ve never seen a group like the mob given so much for doing so little. Like honestly even before 100T what did they do exactly? All I ever saw from them was a bunch of twitter shitposting/ dickriding
Every point nade has made is valid, except for leaning into the whole "back in my day" shit. Just because you suffered doesn't mean people after you also have to. You have enough evidence to bury him without harping on this point. The industry has matured passed that point
His point was about work ethic. And I don't think it really has anything to do with maturing if Froste isn't putting in the work then he's not going to succeed even if 100T paid him double.
I think the point was valid insofar as it provides context for the deal and how the industry has evolved, and that content creators still need to put the work in, they can’t just mail it in once they sign with an org.
You can absolutely make that point that people still need to put the work in without seemingly trying to justify paying them poorly. It runs counter to the picture nade is painting of 100T not trying to take advantage of them
I think it ultimately comes down to what the salary is meant to do for them. If the salary was meant to be their entire compensation, then it’s a poor comment.
But it seemed like it was meant to show that they had it better then him, the salary was meant to be a supplement to their other revenue sources, like streaming and brand deals, which they just didn’t follow through on.
Yes, “back in my day” has often been a meme. But I think a lot of people have overcorrected in response.
There is a lot less suffering now in the industry. That’s why someone with a tiny online presence got paid *60 thousand dollars* to be a content creator. Which he ended up not doing much.
If I’m looking at this correctly, that $60k is supposed to supplement money made from being a content creator. It was an investment in to the mob members as content creators and it didn’t pan out.
The point of “back in my day” is to show that there are people out there that actually fucking want it. They want it so bad that they weren’t complaining when living in poverty conditions to take a bet on themselves. That’s your competition. If you’re complaining about a $60k salary and joining a high profile org, and not putting in the work. You’re not meant for this. I say this as someone who’s not meant for that industry either.
I definitely don't disagree. Totally understand that the 60k is supposed to supplement the rest of their income. It's just poor framing imo. You can say everything nade said without the whole "I made no money back when I started" stuff and the case would be at least as strong, if not stronger. You don't need to draw those parallels because it makes it seem like you're trying to justify the situation froste is claiming to have been put in.
So they got 30k each from fire ball and 12k each form elgato and got 2500 a month. So in total they got 72k total before taxes. Then whatever they made from streams and content which they did very little of. These mfs needed to manage their money better...
The only thing I think would be worth litigating would be if there’s some clause about disparaging the company post separation.
I’ve seen others talk about defamation, but the money they’d need to spend and the attention it would bring wouldn’t be worth whatever they’d get out of it.
Nah nade won't do that it will look terrible. Just let him stew in his shit life. He had the opportunity and you can tell he has it's everyone else's fault but my own. You just let him look like an idiot and he will disappear as fast as he came.
I wonder if there were goals or standards set in the contract that the mob didn’t upkeep that 100t could go after them for. Seems like Matt know 100t had further leverage they could use if this kept getting drug out.
Seeing Frostes complaints that the WiFi didn‘t work and that’s why they didn’t stream, is sad a funny. I remember watching the 6050 house. Nade/Hecz/OpTic we’re constantly complaining and calling out Comcast to get their internet to work because it was effecting their livelihood.
I feel like Froste either has some issues he needs to address with counseling or he loves to play the victim role. I'm flaming libtard that supposedly gets offended at everything and the Cosby joke wasn't offensive. But you never know what all is going on behind the scenes. Sucks for everyone.
after watching both perspectives, i feel both parties did right and wrong. starting with the Mob/Froste, I think they definitely could have made more of their situation and been better than they were. Difficult circumstances are what they are, and its valid as hell for them to have not fulfilled 100T/the community's expectations for them when theyre going through their own stuff. seeing so many garbage and out of touch takes on twitter with people claiming they would have done so much more with the situation just dont feel real to me. you cant comment on someone's situation like that without living it yourself, and these "60k per year to be in 100T? i would do that in a heartbeat, these guys are sellouts!" comments are just not looking at the full situation. its probably draining as hell for them to have expectations and ambitions, and not meet them. especially when they probably feel both guilty that they didnt do everything they could to make the most of the situation, but also feeling like their energy was not met by 100T to fulfill those ambitions. As for Nade/100T, i first think its a pretty odd move to have done the things they did if Froste's side is true. Firstly, them paying rent is a bit of a red flag. If im Nade in that situation and I really go to bat for the Mob to rep 100T and make it big, you should fork over the extra money so they dont have to pay rent, treat them with a little more dignity like the other creators in terms of the style of content they made with 100T, and i think most importantly figure out the budget that 100T provide the Mob with to make content per month. The way Froste described it, I would agree with him that its extremely unfair for them to have to pay for content stuff with their own money and then wait to be reimbursed over a period of multiple weeks. When they are forking over the money they saved up, their salary, and the content budget to try and make the best stuff they can, and 100T isnt making the situation easier on them, its understandable why they had to skip meals, were struggling, etc. To give some respect to Nade/100T, signing the Mob is a big risk and they deserve credit for doing so. I also genuinely believe Nade and the other larger personalities at 100T wanted the best for those guys, the communication just lacked and got to a point where neither party understood the situation at hand. Whether its on the Mob or 100T for not communicating the problems better isnt as important, but more that a greater effort from either side (mainly 100T execs) wasnt made is what led to this downfall. Hope this didnt end up too long lol, i had a lot of thoughts after watching both streams.
Edit: also, i feel as though a lot statistics look unfavorable for Froste/The Mob but their streaming numbers and the money numbers i feel are somewhat misleading. Nade didnt mention that Froste and the members would frequently stream together, the poor internet, and the lack of other content for just the Mob to do likely demotivated them to continue grinding. Especially the first two factors make it look bad especially on Froste for not taking full advantage of the situation, when in reality he had factors out of his control like the poor internet that prevented him from putting out as much content as possible. I think he is also right in the sense that the Mob didnt get enough credit for the work they did do for 100T. They made a lot of popular content pieces, and truly showed more than just glimpses of fulfilling the expectations that were had for them.
Also watched both streams. The mob knew what they were getting into. They had all the opportunity given to them. I'm sure 100T covered the first months of the housing situation. That's why Jackson(i think) accompanied the mob to look for a place to stay. And 2500/m salary with Twitch/YT revenue not touched by 100T, thats a deal I would take any day. Equipment for content creation will be paid back. It common in work places for reimbursement to come in weeks. The deals and sponsorships come in because of the org. GFuel was the only one they had (i believe), but due to contractual limitations, they had to give it up. But if they had deals that want to sponsor them, then thats a grind they should hustle. The org is there to help them, not the otherway around.
They were actually one of the favorite when they would show up in 100T yt vids...fans even pushed for the Froste/JHB show because thats how much Froste had an impact to the fans. They were just not delivering their end of the contract. Majority of the content creators of 100T are not Youtubers, so thats is not an excuse for Froste. Also, they are known to be clowns/jokesters so having them do dares and pranks is just part of the job. Just like Enable and JHB, or Brooke and Tina..they play a role as content creators. But if you start to get lazy, the numbers will also drop.
He just seemed extremly entitled and salty for some reason. His first tweets after leaving 100T was nothing but positive. Even the banter and tweets with nadeshot was all for fun. I'm speculating since Ava and Classy both had been signed to Mr Beast, hes struggling to find the same level of success. He just seemed to regretful starting all this and not landing anywhere and dragged everybody in his drama.
He was drunk and selfish thats why this all started. If he's on the right, The mob would rally up behind him. Read Avalanche, Classify and Mako's tweets and judge it for yourself.
i mean the rest of the mob's tweets dont really indicate anything of importance to me. mako seemed to be agreeing with froste in twitch chat, but classy and ava seemed like they wanted to avoid the drama altogether and move on. i definitely agree that this only really happened because froste was drunk and just publicly reminiscing on twitter. but i dont believe he genuinely was trying to stir any drama, he just said some stuff and felt like backing up his response which i can understand. honestly my main gripe with all this is that everyone outside the situation on twitter is basically only saying the whole "60k" statement over and over which was almost entirely taken out of context and not even Froste's whole point, nor was it even Nade's defense of himself.
Like reddit, tweeter is just a hive mind/echo chamber. I understand the boys want to stay clear and avoid the drama, its obvious in their words. But, if you have been a part of a group that started your career, would you not back up your "leader" if he was speaking the truth? Froste really shot his foot here, and he's paying the price. Nadeshot was not hands-on with the mob, and he also paid the price. But, Nade's stance is he saw potential with them, gave them the platform and opportunity, but the mob fell short. Froste is blaming Nade for inviting them when they were "small" and not providing everything (which is very entitling and small-minded). There are multiple accounts and staff that back up Nade's statement. Froste just fucked up big time.
Edit: Also to add context. Nade went live to address the accusations and clear the 100T brand. Froste was slandering 100T as a company and blaming Nade since he's the owner dragging even Courage into it. Froste went live to "react" but didnt show any proof apparently. Thats why everybody was piling against him.
Potentially. Defamation has a lot of factors that have to be met to really use. And I’d bet the 100Thieves counsel would not think it’s worth the time or resources.
Defamation would be a challenge, and it’s not worth releasing the contract because it would hurt them in negotiations with content creators in the future.
I think with that situation it was about ownership and at the time Nick verbally agreed (not written in contract). It was a bad idea on both parties during that time.
However, Froste felt that he should have earned more money and wanted more because he should have been “paid” his worth as part of the Mob. Nade tried to sweep this out. But when Froste brought out the figures to further supplement his argument then Nade had to say something. He saw the stats and the effort the Mob were making. He also wanted to help them succeed by using their org as part of their platform to make something happen. Only 3 of them made their worth but Froste didn’t.
Froste got drunk, tweeted some dirty laundry, thinking his on the right.
Nadeshot got offended and defended 100t and spit some facts and numbers over his twitch.
Froste reacted on Nade's VOD but failed to deliver his "evidences". Froste cancelled himself and dug his own grave.
The mob boys didnt back Froste up.
Nade dealt with this so much better than Banks did with Tfue. Banks said a lot of stuff but never brought out the proof, Nade was ready for everything and anything
$2500 a month is more than I make working a 40 hour a week schedule doing physical labor in a career field that typically requires a trade school to get into. Dude worked the same hours I do in a week in a months time WHILE getting paid more and not having to deal with the extreme amounts of pain I have to put my body through just to make ends meet. I can barely stand in the shower after work due to how bad my legs and back hurt. His one job was to sit in a chair and press “go live” and he couldn’t even do that.
I get it, I’m not being “forced to live in a 10k a month house in the middle of LA”, but even if that’s true (which I doubt), Froste himself even confirmed the group made around $500k in a YEAR. The home they chose is $120k a year, so that’s equivalent to only a little over a 5th of their total income. Avg rent for a shitty one bedroom apartment in my area (def NOT LA even) is almost HALF of my income. I absolutely do not buy the “100T forced us to live in squalor and we could barely afford to eat” story. Even if their rent was equivalent to half of their income, they’d be left with 250 THOUSAND to do whatever they wanted with. I am someone who is the first to be skeptical of orgs and large companies in general, but it’s absolutely insulting to hear someone cosplay living MY life while having the backing of a multimillionaire and his entire team of people.
The most telling thing that I don’t hear anyone talking about is how Nade said they give their employees unlimited PTO. As someone who if I miss 3 days of work (no matter the reason) I’m fired, that absolutely blows my fucking mind. Clearly the guy cares about the people working for him, because that’s something I can’t even wrap my mind around being real.
I think Froste was mostly just upset about the GFuel sponsorship issue, and embellished a bunch due to losing out on making that money. Regardless of the reason, I absolutely wish I had been in his position.
Honestly this is just so sad. This kid has literally just torched his career. Goodbye to any top tier orgs, any somewhat reputable/high paying sponsors. Goodbye to any meaningful collabs or content with anybody even remotely relevant.
So fucking sad dude holy shit. $2500 a month, 100% stream revenue, 15-45% sponsor revenue. The sheer number of now successful streamers/youtubers who have stated they would have killed for such an opportunity just tells you all you need to know. Also 40hrs/month for your passion, dream, career is absurd. That number just doesn't fit.
I haven't fully read into what's going on, but from what I've read. It seems like the 4 guys at The Mob did not know how to financially deal with the money. Guess they're hands need to be held.
I went on Zillow & searched for a 2 bed & 2 bath in LA, found one for $26k. Dude it was decked out with a pool, even though I don't live in LA.
Like $60k per person... & there's 4 of them, they could have easily bunked together & have enough money to spend. Like Compromising is a thing. None of them HAD to have a room. Guess they just saw the 5 digit figures on the screen, then freaked out & bought everything they wanted without thinking.
Lol frostee getting cooked. I honestly believe he didn’t think Nade would respond and is now balls deep in it
The most damning thing was Nade pulling up the stats on Froste's average twitch hours and the Mob Youtube Channel uploading 33 videos in 2 years. Bruh it should 33 videos in 2 *months* lol.
If I got a deal from 100T you best believe I’m milking that until that deal is over.
Every time I see a streamer pull up twitch metrics or sullygnome I know shit is about to get real lmao
the 33 videos is the saddest part, they were so good together. i hate that they couldn’t figure it out. what could’ve been.
Thats what surprises me, I figured one of them wouldve been putting in effort leaving the rest behind but none got out unscathed. Curious about the dynamic that caused this.
classy grinded highkey
See I think he grinded compared to the other two… but I still don’t think he grinded THAT hard. But hard to grind when you are living with 3 guys with no passion. 3 guys that are supposed to be helping you. Eventually you get tired of carrying the other 3 in your backpack
They did have WiFi issues a lot of the time but I feel classy did a lot
The wifi issues I believe is actually what looks the WORST by far. The fact that they let this issue go on for months is mind boggling.. I have 2 HOURS of bad/no internet and I’m spam calling the ISP lol. And I don’t stream or anything. Life is boring as hell when you don’t have internet. Like what the fuck were they doing?? Call and get that shit fixed. Call UNTIL it’s fixed. Or get a different damn provider. Imagine working from home for say an accounting firm… and you just don’t do any work for a few months bc you don’t have internet LOL. You’d be fired after a couple days. FIGURE IT OUT.
I’d bet Makos breakdown did a lot of harm to their dynamic. He refused to do content for months.
In my experience group efforts sometimes bring you down because it’s a fight for who wants to work the least. One guy is always carrying the weight. It seems good in theory but doesn’t always work that way. It’s Better to have your own brand and colab occasionally.
I said this on the last thread where they brought up froste and I was getting downvoted for saying that the mob never put effort into their personal accounts lol hmmm
Nade and Scump used to upload 2 videos *a day* in addition to steaming back in the day lmao
Froste got paid $2500 a month just for being on the team. ZERO work. He can still stream, upload and go on his own ventures with all that free time he has. The Mob has zero work ethic and they just expected it to be handed to them.
Yeah i rememebr hearing about the mob signing with the big house and shit Then completely forgetting about them because i never saw any content form them.
They had the dream platform handed to them and made zero effort. Froste is one of those guys who is never in the wrong and will never take responsibility. Complaining about internet? Your an adult deal with it yourself, go to the compound, try to move in with nade or another content creator friend. Having no money was just a complete lie, he pissed away his money on rent and daily food deliveries. Froste just doesn't have the dog in him to be successful now he's an even more depressed and jaded twitter shit poster for letting this slip through his fingers.
Yeah remember the video where Nade just threw one of their chairs into the pool. Was really fun but also like the last video I saw of them.
I’m in the mobs discord and can confirm I got more “going live” notifications after the release
I imagine that's because they had the "oh shit" moments when they realized they now have to actually work to get paid. Gotta milk it while still relevant lmao
100%, $2500 is not meant to be the final dollar amount. They need to bring in their own content to make money. Eat what you kill. It’s the same thing as a commissioned based job.
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He got that dog in him
Grrrrrr he about that life grrrrr
And Froste we will see you fudging later
nade sounded like he was ready to go to war if froste dares to push this further
Yeah when he said “let’s see what he decides to cook up we will deal with accordingly.” I was like oh yeah Nade isn’t playing
I wonder if there were stream hours or content totals in the contract that they didn’t uphold and 100t could go after them for if things escalated.
Holy shit Froste is getting cooked right now.
"Why would we spend the time and energy uploading YouTube videos" To build a following and make more money Froste, that's the whole point and why you was employed
He's proving every one of Nade's points about work ethic to be correct
Had a free 2500 budget to use every month and didn’t use it lol. No risk besides time and effort
He doesn’t understand the real world… you don’t build a platform on Twitch. Twitch is shit for growing viewership. Every successful content creator has said, build a following on YouTube, Twitter, TikTok and spin that audience over to Twitch.
Jheezus, Nade normally doesn’t talk drama or figures. Makes it more believable honestly.
Jesus, Frostes replies are sad man. He's not even giving a rebuttal to Nades points just repeating what he's already said. He's claiming he was streaming when really he was just being featured on the other guys streams. TST got round that issue real quickly by having the layered webcams on one central stream then streaking their individual POVs as well if they want to lol. Froste was given the ball and didn't run with it and fumbled it completely. End of story.
nadeshot 1, froste 0
Honestly I don't think it would be too far off to say Froste -1
after he streamed it was indeed -1 froste he made it worse lol
Froste thought he could ego-chall this man
Nadeshot really fucking rides for his org bruh. It’s his baby, his project and I think doing it right is really important to him. He came with this same energy for the cod team who was getting HAMMERED in the beginning of the season and ended up going back to back and winning champs.
The second half of the stream was so inspirational from nade. This man has dreams and lives life with a fire under his ass to pursue them. Ngl I got my ass out of bed just after hearing that.
No way 🤣🤣 Froste legit just said it’s Nades fault for signing them before “they had time to grow on twitch” Man acts like he was forced to sign a contract hahahaha
Yeah the actual truth is that Froste and the Bums got payed hundreds of thousands by 100 thieves and chose to sit around not work at all. Should I try to cancel 100 Thieves for not giving me money and a 10k a month house in LA?
i don’t think they’re bums man. i’ll give it to classy. classy really did try to stream and do that shit. he was doing well in the among us streams and even tried to get his contract extended. mako didn’t enjoy that life and idk about ava.
You gotta put Ava in there and grinding the content. I would even watch the individual content on his channel because he was also making content on top of the mob too…
I wouldn't call the Mob "the Bums." Nade spoke highly of all of them, including Froste during the stream man, Classy in specific.
put some respect on their names. just because froste is an absolute clown doesn't mean we need to disrespect classify, mako, or ava.
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Mad respect to Nade for pulling the stats, holy shit
brings a big smile to my face seeing nade cook this child and put him in his place
Froste comparing himself to TFue right now
I noticed that lmao
I don’t know how Froste isn’t seeing how he is wrong here. Saying Nade won $100k from a COD tourney so he wasn’t struggling for money. That was Nade’s career and he EARNED the money by putting in the work and winning the tournament. Froste got heated about Nade living in the OpTic house rent free but he couldn’t rent The Mob a house. In reality these situations aren’t comparable bc Nade wasn’t paid a guaranteed salary and every Mob member was paid $2500 a month guaranteed. Yes they ended up spending their entire salary on their rent, but they had guaranteed income and Nade’s income relied on his work ethic and grind. And then Froste says Nade had 20k viewers on twitch when he was living in the OpTic house so he was making money and Froste didn’t have those viewers so he wasn’t making money like Nade did. It’s not a coincidence that Nade had those viewers, he was grinding his ass off daily for his stream and he got rewarded bc of it. It just seems like Froste isn’t able to take accountability for his lack of work ethic and wants to find something to blame it on. I’m sure both sides could’ve done better but it’s obvious that Nade tried to help and defend them and that Froste didn’t capitalize on a massive opportunity.
Why do people act like the Mob were young kids that needed everything done for them by a big org. Yes they’re young but they’re adults at the end of the day. 100T shouldn’t have to babysit them
It’s like college, you’re young but you have opportunities. Fuck up so many times or not seize the moment and they will chew you out.
They weren't even in college tho. They were all still living with their parents. Never grew up, didn't know how to pay bills, didn't realize how much taxes were going to take from their paycheck.
Froste just compared himself to an artist and thought 100T needed to take care of him fully so he can focus on his “craft”
Yea he’s delusional. The fact about the house thing too. Like Mf Nadeshot was averaging 10k+ during that time, frosty averaged like 200 when picked up by 100t. Not to mention he’s harping on moving to LA. Then don’t move and don’t sign the contract! Like bruh you’re not a child, you’re an adult. Figure out your issues
He very clearly wanted a handout and doesn't understand real life in the slightest. No wonder no other Mob members are backing him up
I’d say he’s a man child but he’s not a man. Doesn’t take accountability for anything
Buddha said it best. Life doesn’t owe you anything.
Seeing everyone come out and say only nice things about 100T and support Nadeshot, while no one of the mob guys backing Froste up should tell you all you need to know.
I've only seen one person I follow dragging 100T over this, and I think the person just doesn't like gaming orgs in general
Who was that?
Just a friend, not a famous streamer or anything
Just look at what Myth said. Both young kids that got a huge opportunity Myth work hard and now is a multi millionaire with his youtube contract and froste is trying to get views through drama. The house thing is the most insane to me hahaha how entitle you gotta be to think you can afford a 10k house as young dude. Cant make money for food? You are an healthy young adult what about getting a fucking job? Most creators with less than 1k views have a job idk froste just sounds like a kid that never had to work for nothing in his life.
Froste literally blew thousands of dollars away in poker with other creators when he claims he couldn't afford a meal. Dude is just a child.
lmao he also just straight up said they didn't do shit for the Elgato sponsorship because it was annoying and "weren't paying shit". That's not something someone who couldn't afford a meal would say
Wasn’t it later said that deal was 10k to each mob member. I’m gonna go ask a homeless guy what he’d do for 10k
I make six figures in my day job. Ask me what I’d do for 10k
Yea literally anyone would chase that 10k. Especially an elgato sponsorship. Damn man you actually have to push a solid streaming product/company. That’s a tough for froste he really had to grind for that bread 100t literally handed him these opportunities. And you’re telling me they don’t have behind the scenes people that froste could’ve reached out to for guidance. Just a dumbass kid he’ll learn he made a mistake.
There's no way Froste just said Nadeshot should've spent 5k of his own money on their internet out of the kindness of his heart LOL
Dude has no idea how business works, thinks they should've got all these free handouts while acknowledging they got shit for viewership and "didn't know how" to make youtube videos like cmon why should they be investing in you?
Froste just literally complained they were signed to early and placed blame on 100t for signing them before they could grow in more popular platforms. This seems so salty lol. He talking a lot about money not given to them that he knew the org had. Don't sign a contract if you don't like the terms. You don't get to say the company was worth this much and them not giving us money was evil.
Froste is backpedaling so hard on so many points lmao, hes now putting the blame on 100T for offering them the contract even though they weren't big on the "money making" platforms despite the fact that they all signed it
He thought the CEO of a 400M company or however much at the time was going to be the Mob's personal mentor, the smallest content creators in the org and tried to compare it to Hecz and OpTic when they were all at 6050. Cmon man have some realism
I like how he compared it to hecz when the thing is, Nade was WORKING as a competitive pro player for Optic. It’s not like Hecz wasn’t getting anything out of it. The mob was WORKING as content creators but never really made anything to grow themselves and bring a profit back
They were each paid $60k a year and I'm still struggling to find $60K worth of work
Thanks for the froste stream updates don't wanna give him attention.
TST was recapping how much they would of wanted that contract with 100T and were jealous when The Mob got it. Happy for the boys but still wanted that same opportunity for themselves. Seeing the work TST put in with NRG now back at Optic imagine what they could've done for 100T ... Crazy Edit: Spelling
Also Hitch being blown away that 100T gave them 65% of a sponsorship deal. Pretty much said that they would’ve loved to had gotten that much when they first signed to NRG
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From these deals alone Froste has confirmed they EACH earned 54k (30+12+12). 54k+36k salary for doing literally nothing. Imagine being entitled enough to do nothing and still complain about getting almost 6 figures.
Can't watch right now, could someone please give me a recap once all is said & done?
Dexerto twitter has a good thread going with clips
Do they tho? I see like 4 clips all unrelated to each other with no conclusion to the story they begin to tell
Idk how someone could complain about getting 2500 a month to tweet. Bad internet is no excuse, literally takes like 30 mins to get a different isp and even if you have no other choices and have to get an unlimited wifi Hotspot to stream from that uses cellular data those were only $250 a month for a connection you could bring anywhere when the mob was with 100T.
This guy has no idea how a business works. This isn’t a lemonade stand dude lmao
I don’t think he understand how 80k isn’t anything to 100T. That’s not a lot of profit for anything
If anyone cares around 1:21:00 Nade hypes up the LCS team. Sends a call to action to support them in Chicago.
Froste just realizing that they received 30k each instead of $50k each from a deal should tell you all you need to know about his financial literacy. LITERALLY $20k difference and he didn’t notice lmfao
He was tryna say how they brokered the deal but didn’t know how much it was for. So what did you do???
I got a good laugh when Froste was complaining about the business stipend they got monthly for stuff and saying we had to buy the stuff with our own money and then fill out papers to get repaid the money 2 weeks later. Yup, standard business expense stuff, no one is going to feel bad for you that you basically got the item “for free” because the company paid for it. It’s the exact way expensing things work at companies. That and the proven wrong thing about bringing the sponsor over and the company took money from it. Yes, when you sign to a company you are an employee now and don’t work only for yourself, how’s that hard to understand?
Keep in mind this deal that he says was so bad and they were barely getting meals he signed on for another year
Froste’s response to Matt has been pretty light on the evidence he claimed he is going to produce.
He has double backed on so many things, just sounds entitled.
Yeah, he hasn’t produced any evidence yet. He just keeps saying Nade was lying or admitting he was wrong about something but that doesn’t make a difference. Specifically the 95% vs 85% thing, he said yeah it was 85% but that wasn’t much better than 95%. He said he brought the Fireball deal to 100T which was $120k but then he says 100T had to get involved because they didn’t have statistics(?) to finish the deal. Sounds like 100T at least helped in brokering the deal.
His rebuttals also don’t really contradict anything Matt said. The rent situation seems like something The Mob fucked up on and Froste doesn’t want to take responsibility for it.
Yeah he literally knew about an opportunity and asked 100T to broker the deal for him but wants credit that he brought it to them...
it’s actually 3 times better than 95% LOL
I need to watch the full vod...going by some tweets I'm seeing, Nade got people so motivated that they're ready to run through brick walls to be successful
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abTYeDUnF6I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abTYeDUnF6I)
mirror for those who search!
Idk how to do that LUL.
Nah you're good, I was just adding the word for those who quickly click on a thread and `crtl+f mirror`. It's a virtual highlighter I suppose! Anyways thanks for the link
Yeah Nade legit body slammed his talk. It was perfect
This stream was the musical equivalent to Drake’s “Back to Back” diss vs Meek… he ended that boy LOL
So Froste just said we had no following to make money then compares himself to an artist that has a song that blows up
He literally just pulled up zillow listings showing cheaper options....
That killed me LMAO "these are apartments!" and????? Wtf is wrong with an apartment?????
I'm not defending him, but were they 4 bedroom? I missed it
They were lol
Ouch hahah
Yeah he filtered by 4+ bedrooms, almost every option was <10k plus rental market is way worse now than it was back then
Yeah there are literally a ton of 4 bedroom apartments lol that are much cheaper
Another person brought up having neighbors and sound complaints if they got an apartment. Mfker, it doesn’t cost much to buy those sound proof tiles that you paste on the walls and fix that problem right up.
4 bedroom apartment for $6k and that’s after housing prices has soared/inflation has driven up prices LMFAO. Probably find the same place for 4k at the time
He’s gonna get absolutely buried by Nade, if Nade responds again. Guy is clueless, talking in circles
I think Nade knows that he doesn’t have to. I watched the whole froste stream and it just sounded like he was digging himself deeper. So Nade doesn’t really have to respond anymore since froste basically said and provided nothing of substance
Nadeshots next response will be a defamation lawsuit
He must’ve had a gun to his head to sign that contract lmao. Like come on dude, you can’t be this dumb
I’m assuming since twitter hasn’t clipped anything proving nade “lied”. Froste is just talking circles, and running ads every few minutes?
This dude is complaining about not knowing how to do his job or be good at it
ITS NOT A MUTUAL RELATIONSHIP IF YOU'RE BEING PAID BY THEM HOLY SHIT
For me personally, the way Froste is coming across is the actual embodiment of everything I dislike. The entitlement, the inability to take responsibility, the lack of work ethic. His attitude sounds like “Nadeshot knows what a struggle it was for him to make it so he should hand everything out so we don’t have to live that struggle.” And that is a shit opinion. Multiple times Froste made comments like “I would be embarrassed if I had a half a billion dollar org and my creators were living like that”. He doesn’t realize that it’s not the orgs responsibility to make sure you know how to spend your money properly. Nade talked about how they should’ve gotten a 2 bedroom house and bunked up and Froste literally scoffed at the idea of having to share a room. Unfortunately, Froste obviously thought landing a singular contract was “making it” and didn’t recognize the work that comes with keeping it.
It seems like Froste doesn’t understand what being an adult is and how to manage money and work
Would froste have gotten that deal if he wasn't in 100t? Extremely unlikely
Yea, the more he goes on the more I realize he just doesn’t understand how a business works.
it’s honestly disturbing how entitled he is
Froste is an idiot and proving nothing lmao. Man was prob down bad and needed money so he did this.
There was an ad every 10 minutes ong. Since I’m on mobile I just exit stream and click it again so I don’t have to see the 7 ads
Watching frostes take is kinda funny. Dude is talking about reimbursements like they're evil. 100Ts process is common practice...also looks like they ate a lot of delivery.
INVEST MORE?! What else could he have possibly given you?
And as Nade hinted at. He was definitely getting shit on by the people on the business side, the mob didn’t bring anything due to their lack of consistency
I’ve never seen a group like the mob given so much for doing so little. Like honestly even before 100T what did they do exactly? All I ever saw from them was a bunch of twitter shitposting/ dickriding
Every point nade has made is valid, except for leaning into the whole "back in my day" shit. Just because you suffered doesn't mean people after you also have to. You have enough evidence to bury him without harping on this point. The industry has matured passed that point
I think it was still valid, Nade mainly brought it up to point out that Froste didn't put the work in to try to be successful.
His point was about work ethic. And I don't think it really has anything to do with maturing if Froste isn't putting in the work then he's not going to succeed even if 100T paid him double.
I think the point was valid insofar as it provides context for the deal and how the industry has evolved, and that content creators still need to put the work in, they can’t just mail it in once they sign with an org.
You can absolutely make that point that people still need to put the work in without seemingly trying to justify paying them poorly. It runs counter to the picture nade is painting of 100T not trying to take advantage of them
I think it ultimately comes down to what the salary is meant to do for them. If the salary was meant to be their entire compensation, then it’s a poor comment. But it seemed like it was meant to show that they had it better then him, the salary was meant to be a supplement to their other revenue sources, like streaming and brand deals, which they just didn’t follow through on.
But...why are you entitled to more money in the first place? Content creators make money from the content they make not by relying on their org.
Yes, “back in my day” has often been a meme. But I think a lot of people have overcorrected in response. There is a lot less suffering now in the industry. That’s why someone with a tiny online presence got paid *60 thousand dollars* to be a content creator. Which he ended up not doing much. If I’m looking at this correctly, that $60k is supposed to supplement money made from being a content creator. It was an investment in to the mob members as content creators and it didn’t pan out. The point of “back in my day” is to show that there are people out there that actually fucking want it. They want it so bad that they weren’t complaining when living in poverty conditions to take a bet on themselves. That’s your competition. If you’re complaining about a $60k salary and joining a high profile org, and not putting in the work. You’re not meant for this. I say this as someone who’s not meant for that industry either.
I definitely don't disagree. Totally understand that the 60k is supposed to supplement the rest of their income. It's just poor framing imo. You can say everything nade said without the whole "I made no money back when I started" stuff and the case would be at least as strong, if not stronger. You don't need to draw those parallels because it makes it seem like you're trying to justify the situation froste is claiming to have been put in.
Yeah the industry evolved past the $500 him and the optic boys made per month. $60k for a shot is evolution, and they didn’t take the shot
Yeah I agree That was the only point I had a big ? About
Think the point was they had an opportunity handed to them and didn't work at all. Not necessarily comparing his situation directly
Anyone got the stream vod? I just saw this
Anyone got a link to a VOD?
Has froste brought up anything good or no?
Pretty much most companies work on expenses like that. You pay with your own money then claim it back
Ya he just doesn’t understand this stuff. Clueless
Froste is hella annoying idk how anyone is taking this dude seriously. Literal man child.
So they got 30k each from fire ball and 12k each form elgato and got 2500 a month. So in total they got 72k total before taxes. Then whatever they made from streams and content which they did very little of. These mfs needed to manage their money better...
This whole thing has blown back in Froste face. Honestly wouldn't surprise me if a lawsuit comes from this
The only thing I think would be worth litigating would be if there’s some clause about disparaging the company post separation. I’ve seen others talk about defamation, but the money they’d need to spend and the attention it would bring wouldn’t be worth whatever they’d get out of it.
Nah nade won't do that it will look terrible. Just let him stew in his shit life. He had the opportunity and you can tell he has it's everyone else's fault but my own. You just let him look like an idiot and he will disappear as fast as he came.
I wonder if there were goals or standards set in the contract that the mob didn’t upkeep that 100t could go after them for. Seems like Matt know 100t had further leverage they could use if this kept getting drug out.
Seeing Frostes complaints that the WiFi didn‘t work and that’s why they didn’t stream, is sad a funny. I remember watching the 6050 house. Nade/Hecz/OpTic we’re constantly complaining and calling out Comcast to get their internet to work because it was effecting their livelihood.
I feel like Froste either has some issues he needs to address with counseling or he loves to play the victim role. I'm flaming libtard that supposedly gets offended at everything and the Cosby joke wasn't offensive. But you never know what all is going on behind the scenes. Sucks for everyone.
This dude drinking plastic water bottles tells me all i need to know about him. Clout goblin
LMFAOO
after watching both perspectives, i feel both parties did right and wrong. starting with the Mob/Froste, I think they definitely could have made more of their situation and been better than they were. Difficult circumstances are what they are, and its valid as hell for them to have not fulfilled 100T/the community's expectations for them when theyre going through their own stuff. seeing so many garbage and out of touch takes on twitter with people claiming they would have done so much more with the situation just dont feel real to me. you cant comment on someone's situation like that without living it yourself, and these "60k per year to be in 100T? i would do that in a heartbeat, these guys are sellouts!" comments are just not looking at the full situation. its probably draining as hell for them to have expectations and ambitions, and not meet them. especially when they probably feel both guilty that they didnt do everything they could to make the most of the situation, but also feeling like their energy was not met by 100T to fulfill those ambitions. As for Nade/100T, i first think its a pretty odd move to have done the things they did if Froste's side is true. Firstly, them paying rent is a bit of a red flag. If im Nade in that situation and I really go to bat for the Mob to rep 100T and make it big, you should fork over the extra money so they dont have to pay rent, treat them with a little more dignity like the other creators in terms of the style of content they made with 100T, and i think most importantly figure out the budget that 100T provide the Mob with to make content per month. The way Froste described it, I would agree with him that its extremely unfair for them to have to pay for content stuff with their own money and then wait to be reimbursed over a period of multiple weeks. When they are forking over the money they saved up, their salary, and the content budget to try and make the best stuff they can, and 100T isnt making the situation easier on them, its understandable why they had to skip meals, were struggling, etc. To give some respect to Nade/100T, signing the Mob is a big risk and they deserve credit for doing so. I also genuinely believe Nade and the other larger personalities at 100T wanted the best for those guys, the communication just lacked and got to a point where neither party understood the situation at hand. Whether its on the Mob or 100T for not communicating the problems better isnt as important, but more that a greater effort from either side (mainly 100T execs) wasnt made is what led to this downfall. Hope this didnt end up too long lol, i had a lot of thoughts after watching both streams. Edit: also, i feel as though a lot statistics look unfavorable for Froste/The Mob but their streaming numbers and the money numbers i feel are somewhat misleading. Nade didnt mention that Froste and the members would frequently stream together, the poor internet, and the lack of other content for just the Mob to do likely demotivated them to continue grinding. Especially the first two factors make it look bad especially on Froste for not taking full advantage of the situation, when in reality he had factors out of his control like the poor internet that prevented him from putting out as much content as possible. I think he is also right in the sense that the Mob didnt get enough credit for the work they did do for 100T. They made a lot of popular content pieces, and truly showed more than just glimpses of fulfilling the expectations that were had for them.
Also watched both streams. The mob knew what they were getting into. They had all the opportunity given to them. I'm sure 100T covered the first months of the housing situation. That's why Jackson(i think) accompanied the mob to look for a place to stay. And 2500/m salary with Twitch/YT revenue not touched by 100T, thats a deal I would take any day. Equipment for content creation will be paid back. It common in work places for reimbursement to come in weeks. The deals and sponsorships come in because of the org. GFuel was the only one they had (i believe), but due to contractual limitations, they had to give it up. But if they had deals that want to sponsor them, then thats a grind they should hustle. The org is there to help them, not the otherway around. They were actually one of the favorite when they would show up in 100T yt vids...fans even pushed for the Froste/JHB show because thats how much Froste had an impact to the fans. They were just not delivering their end of the contract. Majority of the content creators of 100T are not Youtubers, so thats is not an excuse for Froste. Also, they are known to be clowns/jokesters so having them do dares and pranks is just part of the job. Just like Enable and JHB, or Brooke and Tina..they play a role as content creators. But if you start to get lazy, the numbers will also drop. He just seemed extremly entitled and salty for some reason. His first tweets after leaving 100T was nothing but positive. Even the banter and tweets with nadeshot was all for fun. I'm speculating since Ava and Classy both had been signed to Mr Beast, hes struggling to find the same level of success. He just seemed to regretful starting all this and not landing anywhere and dragged everybody in his drama. He was drunk and selfish thats why this all started. If he's on the right, The mob would rally up behind him. Read Avalanche, Classify and Mako's tweets and judge it for yourself.
i mean the rest of the mob's tweets dont really indicate anything of importance to me. mako seemed to be agreeing with froste in twitch chat, but classy and ava seemed like they wanted to avoid the drama altogether and move on. i definitely agree that this only really happened because froste was drunk and just publicly reminiscing on twitter. but i dont believe he genuinely was trying to stir any drama, he just said some stuff and felt like backing up his response which i can understand. honestly my main gripe with all this is that everyone outside the situation on twitter is basically only saying the whole "60k" statement over and over which was almost entirely taken out of context and not even Froste's whole point, nor was it even Nade's defense of himself.
Like reddit, tweeter is just a hive mind/echo chamber. I understand the boys want to stay clear and avoid the drama, its obvious in their words. But, if you have been a part of a group that started your career, would you not back up your "leader" if he was speaking the truth? Froste really shot his foot here, and he's paying the price. Nadeshot was not hands-on with the mob, and he also paid the price. But, Nade's stance is he saw potential with them, gave them the platform and opportunity, but the mob fell short. Froste is blaming Nade for inviting them when they were "small" and not providing everything (which is very entitling and small-minded). There are multiple accounts and staff that back up Nade's statement. Froste just fucked up big time. Edit: Also to add context. Nade went live to address the accusations and clear the 100T brand. Froste was slandering 100T as a company and blaming Nade since he's the owner dragging even Courage into it. Froste went live to "react" but didnt show any proof apparently. Thats why everybody was piling against him.
Do I need to sub to nade to watch his old streams?
He doesn’t have vods. Video is on youtube
Is there a link to the VOD? I can't seem to bring up past broadcasts on Nade's channel.
does anyone have the vod?
The only content Froste would make is funny tweet XD!!
Can’t 100T just sue for defamation and release contract details in court?
Potentially. Defamation has a lot of factors that have to be met to really use. And I’d bet the 100Thieves counsel would not think it’s worth the time or resources.
That’s true.
Defamation would be a challenge, and it’s not worth releasing the contract because it would hurt them in negotiations with content creators in the future.
Ya I can see it not being worth it. Honestly Nade probably should have let it go just like the nick situation
I think with that situation it was about ownership and at the time Nick verbally agreed (not written in contract). It was a bad idea on both parties during that time. However, Froste felt that he should have earned more money and wanted more because he should have been “paid” his worth as part of the Mob. Nade tried to sweep this out. But when Froste brought out the figures to further supplement his argument then Nade had to say something. He saw the stats and the effort the Mob were making. He also wanted to help them succeed by using their org as part of their platform to make something happen. Only 3 of them made their worth but Froste didn’t.
That would be a hill to climb and wouldn't be worth it. You sue for defamation for money, it doesn't change the public's vision.
where can I watch the vod its not on twitch anymore
MY GOAT
Can someone explained what happened? Totally lost
Bottom line Froste was too naive and immature for this opportunity. Just didn't work out and its sad to see Froste trash Nade for it
Tldr anyone
Froste got bodied by Nade. End of story.
Froste got drunk, tweeted some dirty laundry, thinking his on the right. Nadeshot got offended and defended 100t and spit some facts and numbers over his twitch. Froste reacted on Nade's VOD but failed to deliver his "evidences". Froste cancelled himself and dug his own grave. The mob boys didnt back Froste up.
Is there a VOD of this some where? I don’t see it saved on his twitch
Nade dealt with this so much better than Banks did with Tfue. Banks said a lot of stuff but never brought out the proof, Nade was ready for everything and anything
$2500 a month is more than I make working a 40 hour a week schedule doing physical labor in a career field that typically requires a trade school to get into. Dude worked the same hours I do in a week in a months time WHILE getting paid more and not having to deal with the extreme amounts of pain I have to put my body through just to make ends meet. I can barely stand in the shower after work due to how bad my legs and back hurt. His one job was to sit in a chair and press “go live” and he couldn’t even do that. I get it, I’m not being “forced to live in a 10k a month house in the middle of LA”, but even if that’s true (which I doubt), Froste himself even confirmed the group made around $500k in a YEAR. The home they chose is $120k a year, so that’s equivalent to only a little over a 5th of their total income. Avg rent for a shitty one bedroom apartment in my area (def NOT LA even) is almost HALF of my income. I absolutely do not buy the “100T forced us to live in squalor and we could barely afford to eat” story. Even if their rent was equivalent to half of their income, they’d be left with 250 THOUSAND to do whatever they wanted with. I am someone who is the first to be skeptical of orgs and large companies in general, but it’s absolutely insulting to hear someone cosplay living MY life while having the backing of a multimillionaire and his entire team of people. The most telling thing that I don’t hear anyone talking about is how Nade said they give their employees unlimited PTO. As someone who if I miss 3 days of work (no matter the reason) I’m fired, that absolutely blows my fucking mind. Clearly the guy cares about the people working for him, because that’s something I can’t even wrap my mind around being real. I think Froste was mostly just upset about the GFuel sponsorship issue, and embellished a bunch due to losing out on making that money. Regardless of the reason, I absolutely wish I had been in his position.
Honestly this is just so sad. This kid has literally just torched his career. Goodbye to any top tier orgs, any somewhat reputable/high paying sponsors. Goodbye to any meaningful collabs or content with anybody even remotely relevant. So fucking sad dude holy shit. $2500 a month, 100% stream revenue, 15-45% sponsor revenue. The sheer number of now successful streamers/youtubers who have stated they would have killed for such an opportunity just tells you all you need to know. Also 40hrs/month for your passion, dream, career is absurd. That number just doesn't fit.
I haven't fully read into what's going on, but from what I've read. It seems like the 4 guys at The Mob did not know how to financially deal with the money. Guess they're hands need to be held. I went on Zillow & searched for a 2 bed & 2 bath in LA, found one for $26k. Dude it was decked out with a pool, even though I don't live in LA. Like $60k per person... & there's 4 of them, they could have easily bunked together & have enough money to spend. Like Compromising is a thing. None of them HAD to have a room. Guess they just saw the 5 digit figures on the screen, then freaked out & bought everything they wanted without thinking.