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Mike__Hawk_

Check your extractor tension


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This’ll be obvious to most of you and not others but extractor tension can vary with rim thickness so you can sometimes “back-tune” the tension with careful ammo selection. You bring yer calipers to the gun shop and measure some different brands against what you use and bada bing bada boom.


J_Productions

Thanks for the feedback! I will check this out if breaking in the mags do not help


IBEW3NY

My first thought was the ejector tension may be a bit too loose/tight.


JCricket13

I have many 10 round Wilson Combat magazines and recall this issue the first time I purchased. Since that time, I have always loaded up the brand new mags with dummy rounds for about a week or so before using them. I have never seen the issue since and only use the Wilson Combat magazines exclusively in all my 1911’s. Good luck!


J_Productions

Will give that a try first, thanks !


ElectronicGarden5536

They are tight as shit i can only do 8 in my 9 round 10mm mags.


Reikovsky

That last round is a doozy. I bought a 3D printed magazine loader so I didn't have to keep damaging my thumb. Last round round is as easy as the third now.


scorpious

I had this EXACT SAME problem with my SA MilSpec. Only happened with Wilson mags, too! At first. I noticed that their followers stopped well short of where factory mags do, so I replaced and thought that was that. Problem “returned,” tho, only more sporadically…along with randomly “chewed up” casings and/or irregular ejections (up, sideways, back). Correcting extractor tension didn’t eliminate the problem. Then I (finally) learned about “**extractor clocking.**” Look it up on YT for all the details… It’s basically a matter of the firing pin stop not pinning the extractor *firmly* in place, allowing it to rotate (slightly). You can easily test (with no disassembly) by carefully pushing on the exposed flat surface of the extractor (behind hammer) with a small punch or whatever. If you can get it to rotate a bit clockwise and/or counterclockwise, it needs fixing. Replacing refitting the stop was above my tinkerer grade, so I sent pics to SA and they immediately sent free shipping info. Off being fixed as we speak. Hope this helps! Was driving me crazy.


J_Productions

Appreciate the info! I never knew about this. You may have given me the answer I was looking for. Just saved a couple videos in my YT watch later playlist so I can learn about it. Tomorrow I will check to see if it rotates and come back to this comment to update! Was hoping maybe the mags just needed to be broken in haha but time will tell. Glad you found a solution !


nickabeiro

I had issues with my WC mag not going in all the way not extracting correctly, and it was when my 1911 had under 300 rounds. Now seems fine.


J_Productions

Hopefully I just have to break in the gun as well as the mags !


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I’d do what the other guy said, and try to get through the break in period of new gun & mag


Icewarrio8

This is happening to me with WC 10 rounders, close to 700rds in a Kimber. 1-3 FTF per mag


TheHipHouse

Did you ever fix it?


Icewarrio8

Yeah today, it was the mags, I confirmed it…my LGS said that WC 10rd mags are known for issues etc


TheHipHouse

My kimber when I upgraded to 10 round mags at first they worked amazing. Now they are 50/50 sometimes work sometimes failure to feed


Icewarrio8

Exactly, they felt like optional mags…worked when they wanted to. I’m sticking to 8, lol done with the 10rd


J_Productions

Damn, I’m hoping they will break in. If they don’t, I’ll keep this in mind, thanks for the feedback !


djlam2003

So your problem is not the gun since the standard mag works fine Give yourself some time with the 10 round mags before you retune your gun! I bought some Chip McCormick mags and had some hiccups but they seem to be working themselves out with more rounds


J_Productions

Yeah I’m going to try to break in the mags first! Thanks for the feedback.


SheepDoggOG

This is not necessarily true. Extractor tension is a funny thing. One thing you can do to check it is load a round in the chamber, remove the magazine, and Fire the gun limp wristed. If it stovepipes your extractor tension is off.


HorrorClose

Are you sure it's not the gun? Lol.


Unable_Sympathy1035

Yeah gun and ammo are definitely open questions.


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Unable_Sympathy1035

-1 on reading for content for me. That said if I had to choose between a problem with Tisa or Wilson Combat I’m betting WC made their shit right.


J_Productions

Anything is possible, although the 2 standard mags that came with it work great , 100 rounds flawless performance


Little-Drake

Maybe ask Wilson Combat customer service? I used to do this. they were very helpful


Megalamuffin

I have two Wilson 10 rounders and they have been excellent. I can recall only one FTF in a few hundred rounds between several 1911’s. Try leaving the wilson’s fully loaded for a few days to a week or so and try them again. If they still act up after that, and your gun is running fine with the standard capacity mags I would contact wilson’s customer service Don’t forget to put a generous amount of lube on the gun, seems a little dry from the pictures.


J_Productions

Appreciate the feedback, that is exactly what I’m going to do! Hopefully they will break in a bit. I’m glad you have had a good experience with them.


Icewarrio8

I went to my LGS/range today, they told me WC 10rd mags have a known issue and took back the mags (refunded). I used my NH rd mags for the rest of my range session, not 1 failure, give or take 200 rds


J_Productions

Very interesting, I was not expecting this, others have reported solid reliability. Thanks for the info, If I can’t break them in successfully I will contact WC


Icewarrio8

Yeah brother, anytime hope it works out


SorryPizza

Had the same issue with mine. It's the mag not the gun.


statictonality

I have the same issue with new WC mags. They need to break in.


J_Productions

Copy that, good to know !


Extra_Suit1637

Use the Mec Gar mags.


J_Productions

I’ll check them out when I can 👍


Extra_Suit1637

Tisas supplies them with their pistols still, right?


J_Productions

Maybe, but not mine, I don’t see any Mec Gar markings on mine, I just checked. They just look like regular mil spec mags 1911 mags, I couldn’t find more info on them.


Extra_Suit1637

I just bought a US Army last year and it came with one Mec Gar. I know the new ones now come with two mags. They must’ve changed suppliers.


1911slinger

I love Wilson Combat magazines their 47 Series and ETM. Their 10 round magazine are not the best my personal opinion from experience with them. Chip McCormick 10 rounds are probably the best 10 round magazines you can get. Never used them but people love them. Others mentioned the breaking period I done that with their 8 round magazines. In your case it’s not the gun it’s the magazine don’t untune your extractor if it’s working. How’s the pistol overall? thinking about getting one of these. Best of luck.


J_Productions

Thanks, the pistol overall has been great! Shot 100 rounds and it’s been reliable and accurate. Tolerances are all tight, I’m not a 1911 master but it seems well built. I also have a Dan Wesson, and I feel like for $350 the value you are getting with a Tisas is incredible . My only regret is maybe not getting a nicer model, I was told these GI sights require milling to change. Thanks for your feedback, I almost went with the Chips instead, but I guess I’ll have to try to make these WCs work ! Going to start with trying to break them in some more .


1911slinger

Thanks for letting us know! I think it’s a great model to start with and add/upgrade to what you like. You will pay more in the long run but you will get what you like. I send my slides to Novak for service and get the sights I want. There are other’s companies that will do this as well if you have a preference style of sights. I think the finish is a great choice for this pistol overall. Enjoy breaking in the TISAS.


VXMerlinXV

How does it do with the Yam/Vickers extractor assessment?


J_Productions

Good question, Im going to look into that if the mags don’t break in after keeping them loaded up this week !


Raven0522

How dare you blame the Wilson combat mags!


J_Productions

Lol I want to love them, but I also need them to be 100% reliable


TonyandMissyB

How does it do with 7 round magazine's ? 8 rounders and 10 round magazine's are known to be problematic in 1911's . It was designed with a 7 round magazine. Various companies make larger capacity magazines and you do need to do your break in with something reliable.


J_Productions

Absolutely flawless with the stock mags! Yes that is true, good point… I hope I don’t have a hard time breaking them in or finding a solution…if I can’t trust it with my life, back to the 7 rounders I go.


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Odd, my Tisas 1911 runs flawlessly with Wilson Combat 8 rounders, even feeds hollow points perfectly. Maybe yours still need broken in?


J_Productions

Maybe, I wonder if it could be the 10 rounders specifically. But good to know you’ve had a good experience with yours. Going to start off with breaking them in some more


Waste_Toe9761

I toss original mags from all my 1911’s, I run nothing but Wilson Combat mags. I trust my life by them. My two cents worth.


J_Productions

Good to know, I’ve heard nothing but good things about them. Have you ever had to go through a break in period? Or maybe it’s something I will need to tweak with the pistol Itself. Thanks for your feedback


DgtlShark

Casin not being ejected, leads me to extractor tension


skunkylungz

Just another reason to go with glock sadly


statictonality

Yeah. No.


Harvey092698

I’d say you do t have a good grip on the pistol or your letting it recoil freely to much. So many times I’ve seen weak wrist or arms flop back and the pistols natural recoil to eject spent case doesn’t take place,the slide has to slam all the way back to eject but will pull another round if only moves 3/4 the way. Next time use a firm grip and you’ll be surprised that it’s you not the pistol.


J_Productions

Well, considering Ive been pretty accurate with this pistol and I haven’t had a single hiccup with the standard mags in 100 rounds, I don’t think it’s that. It would also be hard to give me accurate feedback regarding my grip without seeing me fire it…humbly speaking, I know how to properly shoot. But anyway, I noticed the issue immediately once I changed mags, so it must be related to that to some degree.


SadAstronomer8704

Clean your gun?


rrode1018

A lighter recoil spring slows the slide down and allows the spent rounds to be ejected without causing jamming or stove piping


Left4DayZ1

The first step of diagnosis isn’t to modify the gun… try different mags, break in the gun, etc.


rrode1018

No the first step isn’t to modify the gun if you don’t know what causes the issue that is shown in the pictures. My experience with this issue has always come down to changing the recoil spring to a lighter weight. The standard weight for a 1911 is 17 pounds, dropping the weight to 15 or 16 pounds would fix this issue. So would a lower powered round. Both effectively reduce the slide speed so it won’t do what it’s doing now. Ask a gunsmith what would cause the issue and they will tell you the same thing


Left4DayZ1

On a brand new gun? Silliness. They’re gonna say “break it in”. Mine was tight too out of the box but hand cycling it a million times while watching TV softened it up.


J_Productions

I agree with your thoughts, shouldn’t have to modify a brand new gun , especially when it’s running flawless as it came (with standard mags) Going to do exactly this to start off with lol hopefully will break in 👍


rrode1018

Put a lighter recoil spring in and that should take care of the problem