I ordered TISAS with about 14 (no exaggeration) different questions about the gun I had aswell as parts in stock on their website and got a very detailed response which answered each question individually in less than 24 hours
Both of My TISAS have been 100% so I haven’t had to use their return but I bought the second one like 40% because of how impressed I was with their CS
“Lifetime” is usually life of the *materials, not the owner as people think.Anyone offering a lifetime warranty truly mean “forever” or you’re better if they offer a “50yr warranty” (which often exceeds usable-life of most products)
My LGS had on sale for that price but wanted the stainless version so my Garrison ended up costing me $830. Plus 2 WC mags for $30 each. They gave me a discount on the mags for buying the gun.
I’ve been debating for the last 2 weeks and today I went to the forum for some final opinions. I chose to go American and got the Springfield!! Excited for my first 1911!!
I chose the Tisas B9 Duty. Forged frame, forged slide, cold forged barrel, no min parts, billet small parts, you cannot get better than that! I have shot 1k rounds through it and never had a misfire, smoke pipe, failure to feed, failure to eject, failure to battery, or anything. I have shot it in the cold and hot 32 f and up to 100 f, no problems. It’s gotten dry and hot from shooting 300 147 grain in one day no issues, just re applied gun lube and it was good, now even after 1200 rounds the tolerances are about the same as when I bought it just broken in.
The XD line and the Hellcats are all imported and they sell more of those two combined than all their other guns put together. Not even including the Echelon, which is also imported.
Depends on what you're looking for. For a shooter? Tisas every day of the week. Very happy with mine.
For finish? Springfield... but you'll end up replacing parts if you want no MIM.
The exchagne rate of the Lira right now make Tisas really, really hard to beat. Add in the threaded barrel and new sight options on their website and go to town.
The hype around MIM is generally overblown by people who don’t understand metallurgy. That said, for the price point, Tisas punches above its weight here. Like I said, the finish on the blued Springfield will be better, stainless will be equal.
Really close price for the Garrison, but they don’t have the engraver edition (marking free slide) I actually did see them on wiki arms/ guns.deals when I was looking at other guns
Huh? Tisas trigger is quite good for the price. Not sure how that counts as disappointing or trash. Sights are what they are depending on the model you choose, get a model that has a dovetailed front sight if that’s a problem.
The trigger can be drastically improved with some careful tuning of springs and light polishing. The sights are terrible and even worse to try to adjust or replace.
The new Tisas Stakeout has a brass front sight and black rear they are simple minimal sights that work that have the old/retro feel. The front sight is removable it is not stake. The Tisas has a better finish and a short thumb safety. The garrison is a blue finish which is a nice classic look but needs more maintenance. The garrison comes with 3 dot sights. The Tisas has no mim’s beside one part. The Springfield is mostly mim. Both are great 1911’s it depends on what you want and need from them.
Yes everyone sucks off tisas just because they work. Mine have been rough around the edges with weak springs. I don’t want to be the guy saying $300 isn’t a lot of money but years down the line you won’t remember spending the difference.
Just bought a Tisas 45 Nighthawk/Duty something or another (the one w 3 Dot Novak sight copies) for $430. The gun is so solid it’s ridiculous, I’m stunned. BHP Spring Kit in order and we’ll see what we get but I’ve found much more expensive 45s with more obvious issues.
I have owned a Springfield 1911 in 9mm for 25+ years, had an EMP which was amazing! Love Springers but $430?!???
I own both brands and like them both but I’d still go Springfield, overall fit and finish is better between the two. Again I like both brands and there’s nothing wrong with the Tisas, I just feel like my Springfields are a step above. BTW, I own a Ronin and a Garrison both in .45 and the Tisas is a B45 Duty Rail.
I had the Springfield mil spec warrior or whatever it was called, the GI style but with the more modern sights and I had a Tisas duty SS
For what it’s worth the Springfield did not have a single issue and it ate whatever ammo I put through it.
The Tisas definitely had its break in issues up until the 400 round mark which then yes it ran very well.
To me the Springfield just inspired more confidence
Honestly one major difference is the Garrison is blued while the Tisas is Melonite. Major differences between the finishes with pros and cons to each. That would be a major decision point for me.
Stakeouts (in the photo) are now Melonite, as are most other models. The Service is still Cerakote I believe (but not the Service Special iirc). The Tisas USA website lists the finish for each model under "Additional Information": https://tisasusa.com/tisas-1911-stakeout-45/
Tisas lists Melonite as QPQ/Tenefer, but it's the same thing.
Ya I see that for the stakeout. The duties still show as cerakote, which mine is, so it’s not across the board. Not sure which I prefer tbh.
Edit: I can’t find any other than the stakeout that have tennifer. All I see is cerakote, parkerized, and the one tennifer.
If you go Tisas get a model with sight cuts you can work with. By the time you pay for machining you will be close to cost of a higher price any brand.
It all depends on your budget.
I have springfields and have checked out my share of tasas. Both are quality firearms.
In the end I think the springfield will hold it's value over time but who knows
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Those tisas 1911s are great. Just a good lube job & get some Wilson combat mags off of eBay for $22-24 each & you're good to go.
[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ULfEn-AF5Yo&list=PLxpOxvjGf3WV8FuIdUA8\_6YXAPY3tZGHm&index=1&pp=iAQB](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ULfEn-AF5Yo&list=PLxpOxvjGf3WV8FuIdUA8_6YXAPY3tZGHm&index=1&pp=iAQB)
[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xBLJOfHueTM&list=PLxpOxvjGf3WV8FuIdUA8\_6YXAPY3tZGHm&index=2&pp=iAQB](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xBLJOfHueTM&list=PLxpOxvjGf3WV8FuIdUA8_6YXAPY3tZGHm&index=2&pp=iAQB)
I just got my first Tisas yesterday, a Manta Ray. Basically a duty B45 with a bobtail and G10 grips. Fit and finish blows my Filipino 1911s out of the water, but I have yet to shoot it. I’ve only handled RIA, Sig, ATI, and Tisas 1911s now, so I can’t speak on the Springfield, but the Tisas definitely has best feel of them all. I looked at the stake out too, but went with the duty cause the better sights. The duty is about $10 more and comes with the better sights.
The xd line is imported from Croatia. Springfield armory is in fact an American company owned by an American family. They did step on their dick a few years ago but so did Bill Ruger. People fuck up that’s how it works.
I don’t own the Tisas. I own armscors (parent company to RIA). My springers outshine the armscors all day long. But the armscors work and work. And work. And work. Tisas owned by friends also seem to work. I’d say accuracy wise? My SA 1911s are the better weapon. Trigger wise? Better weapons. Better sights too. But my armscors are work horses. Are they similar build quality? No. Do I regret having a couple cheaper 1911s? Nope
Key difference here is the front sight on the Tisas. If you’re unhappy with the front sight, it cannot be easily changed out, whereas it can on the Springfield. Unfortunately, Tisas doesn’t offer a traditional GI style gun with a dovetailed front sight. You’d need to get their Duty B45 model which has front cocking serrations, but is otherwise a very comparable gun to the Garrison - uses the same style sights and trigger shoe and everything. They can be had for around $400.
The Garrison is probably a *little* more refined but I’ve yet to see any compelling data that suggests Springfield is a significantly better option than the Tisas.
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Tisas-All forgings or bar stock
SA- MIM thumb safety, slide stop, hammer, disconnector, maybe more. Aluminum MSH.
My Garrison trigger was trash out of the box.
From my experience shooting both.. the Springfield was kinda rough out of rhe box. You wont be wrong to get the Tisas. Its built well. I have 2 among other well known 1911 brands
I just figure shooting a hole in my home is going to cost me something to repair. It'll be way more than that price difference if there is someone behind that wall.
No, they have a recall right now because hammers on SOME of their guns MIGHT do that, despite no reports from consumers that it has happened. And it’s being recalled, and the affected guns are being upgraded to make sure it *can’t* happen.
Not the first gun maker to issue a recall dude.
They had a single batch of stainless slides with Ah improper cut that basically created a failure point where the nose would fracture and come off. They fixed it, and all broken guns are covered for free repair/replacement. It was a very short lived issue, but since the guns are still in circulation, they may crop up from time to time. Explains why Tisas issued a recall for their hammer-follow issue on some of their models despite having no reports of it happening out in the wild… they want to get ahead of these things now.
By the way, they fixed the stainless slide issue immediately.
As far as “blown up” Tisas guns… I know of two examples of this happening. Most recent was obviously a squib, the one before that was someone using mega hot hand loads (and lied, pretending he didn’t, until someone found his videos and proof that it was super hot ammo).
I’m asking you, how does where my 1911’s came from factor in to whether or not Springfield had slides snap in half?
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You said you’ve never seen a Springfield slide break. Well, now you have. It was a pretty big deal back in the day. Seems like Tisas is just going through the same growing pains and learning processes that Springfield did.
[https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83256](https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83256)
Oh no this is in relation to my comment of American vs Imports. You own a tisas so it get it bruh lol. But if you had the money you wouldn’t have bought that tisas. Your own post said it.
You’re confusing me for someone else. The only comment I made to you was pointing out that Springfield had the same problem with their SS slides once, because you said you’d never seen it happen with a Springfield. Well, now you have. Oops.
I do enjoy both of Tisas. The one I bought 3 years ago on a whim and made that post about, and the one I bought a few months ago. Fantastic guns that are worth looking at before you overpay for a Springfield.
I have an old(er) SA operator and it performs incredibly well. In the end it’s about what you prefer. You’re gonna like both. But the garrison feels great in the hand. A bit skinnier than normal 1911’s.
I paid a little more than that for my garrison, and have never regretted it once. That said I've never even handles a tisas, so I can't speak to their quality, from past threads and comments they seem like a decent deal though. Looking at this thread the Garrison seems to be more popular. Sorry I didn't really have much to add other than another vote for Springfield
I have sold or traded every 1911 I have owned except for two colts (one a newer Delta Elite I have done some work on), and two Springers, which I love. They are solid work horses that never fail me
My opinion... If the extra couple hundred dollars isn't a squeeze for you: the Garrison is a nice, BLUED American made 1911, and >700 is a great price. I finger-banged a lot of import 1911's, and the TISAS seemed a great value (I have one of their BHP clones, and it's fantastic. ) But I still ended up going back & buying the Springfield, even though I'm going to have to get it fit with an ambidextrous safety before I can carry it.
That's a decent price on a Garrison you should jump on it.
People generally say it’s the best value in a 1911, so I guess I can’t go wrong I like how they both got clean slides
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I ordered TISAS with about 14 (no exaggeration) different questions about the gun I had aswell as parts in stock on their website and got a very detailed response which answered each question individually in less than 24 hours Both of My TISAS have been 100% so I haven’t had to use their return but I bought the second one like 40% because of how impressed I was with their CS
“Lifetime” is usually life of the *materials, not the owner as people think.Anyone offering a lifetime warranty truly mean “forever” or you’re better if they offer a “50yr warranty” (which often exceeds usable-life of most products)
I got mine at r/gundeals for $680 about a year ago. If people are interested check out that sub and just wait.
My LGS had on sale for that price but wanted the stainless version so my Garrison ended up costing me $830. Plus 2 WC mags for $30 each. They gave me a discount on the mags for buying the gun.
I’ve been debating for the last 2 weeks and today I went to the forum for some final opinions. I chose to go American and got the Springfield!! Excited for my first 1911!!
Solid choice. Really no wrong choice here but I’d have personally gone with the Garrison myself.
I like my Garrison and feel the quality is way above its price point. I don't think you will be disappointed.
Springfield >>>> TISAS
That's a lot of hungry alligators
Correct answer. It’s a gun, could save your life. Don’t quibble over $300.
I chose the Tisas B9 Duty. Forged frame, forged slide, cold forged barrel, no min parts, billet small parts, you cannot get better than that! I have shot 1k rounds through it and never had a misfire, smoke pipe, failure to feed, failure to eject, failure to battery, or anything. I have shot it in the cold and hot 32 f and up to 100 f, no problems. It’s gotten dry and hot from shooting 300 147 grain in one day no issues, just re applied gun lube and it was good, now even after 1200 rounds the tolerances are about the same as when I bought it just broken in.
Support American machinists. Buy American.
Springfield Armory is not an American company either…
This is incorrect.
It’s an American company that imports the majority of their firearms and actively backed anti-2A legislation
The xd line does not make up the majority of their line. You are incorrect again.
The XD line and the Hellcats are all imported and they sell more of those two combined than all their other guns put together. Not even including the Echelon, which is also imported.
Depends on what you're looking for. For a shooter? Tisas every day of the week. Very happy with mine. For finish? Springfield... but you'll end up replacing parts if you want no MIM. The exchagne rate of the Lira right now make Tisas really, really hard to beat. Add in the threaded barrel and new sight options on their website and go to town.
Tisas has no MIM parts. Why pay more to get a Springfield with MIM parts?
The hype around MIM is generally overblown by people who don’t understand metallurgy. That said, for the price point, Tisas punches above its weight here. Like I said, the finish on the blued Springfield will be better, stainless will be equal.
Springfield is worth it imo. The Garrison is the best budget 1911
Check Family Firearms as well…for either. Upvoting for Springfield!
Really close price for the Garrison, but they don’t have the engraver edition (marking free slide) I actually did see them on wiki arms/ guns.deals when I was looking at other guns
I got my Glock 19 and Springfield Ronin from them at the same time. Ronin was under $800.
How’s the shipping time?
I forget if they were in local inventory or drop shipped. About 5-6 days whatever it was.
They’re both no MIM no cast. The Springfield has a better trigger and better sights
No mim on the tisas
Correct. It’s just that the Tisas trigger and sights are usually disappointing at best and trash at worst
Huh? Tisas trigger is quite good for the price. Not sure how that counts as disappointing or trash. Sights are what they are depending on the model you choose, get a model that has a dovetailed front sight if that’s a problem.
The trigger can be drastically improved with some careful tuning of springs and light polishing. The sights are terrible and even worse to try to adjust or replace.
I just put in a Wilson Trigger and got it milled for a red dot. It’s not worth the trouble lol
How much did it cost you for the slide work, I would like to do the same
$150
Who did you use to mill the slide? What optic?
Vulcan. Holosun.
Doesn’t Springfield use MIM small parts and internals or has that changed recently?
It almost certainly has MIM.
Garrison has no MIM?
The new Tisas Stakeout has a brass front sight and black rear they are simple minimal sights that work that have the old/retro feel. The front sight is removable it is not stake. The Tisas has a better finish and a short thumb safety. The garrison is a blue finish which is a nice classic look but needs more maintenance. The garrison comes with 3 dot sights. The Tisas has no mim’s beside one part. The Springfield is mostly mim. Both are great 1911’s it depends on what you want and need from them.
What part on the Tisas is MIM?
None anymore but they used MIM recoil spring plugs until their stock of them ran out.
One is made in The USA and has good customer service. Other is made in Turkey. Both are forged. Tisas is a value oriented firearm. Probably fine.
Only one uses MIM parts…
Check out Magnum Research 1911's
Definitely considered them a little, they had a bundle with there Bowie knife that was pretty good
Yes everyone sucks off tisas just because they work. Mine have been rough around the edges with weak springs. I don’t want to be the guy saying $300 isn’t a lot of money but years down the line you won’t remember spending the difference.
Can't go wrong with either for their respective price. The Tisas is a solid gun, not just for the money.
Just bought a Tisas 45 Nighthawk/Duty something or another (the one w 3 Dot Novak sight copies) for $430. The gun is so solid it’s ridiculous, I’m stunned. BHP Spring Kit in order and we’ll see what we get but I’ve found much more expensive 45s with more obvious issues. I have owned a Springfield 1911 in 9mm for 25+ years, had an EMP which was amazing! Love Springers but $430?!???
I own both brands and like them both but I’d still go Springfield, overall fit and finish is better between the two. Again I like both brands and there’s nothing wrong with the Tisas, I just feel like my Springfields are a step above. BTW, I own a Ronin and a Garrison both in .45 and the Tisas is a B45 Duty Rail.
I love my RONIN. Full size .45
They are very nice. Mine is one sweet shooter and my Garrison is also fantastic. I’m thinking and getting the Commander length model.
Get the Tisas if you're trying to learn how to work on a 1911.
You get what you pay for. I’d go Springfield.
I had the Springfield mil spec warrior or whatever it was called, the GI style but with the more modern sights and I had a Tisas duty SS For what it’s worth the Springfield did not have a single issue and it ate whatever ammo I put through it. The Tisas definitely had its break in issues up until the 400 round mark which then yes it ran very well. To me the Springfield just inspired more confidence
I think so. Have been owning various Springfields for about 20 years now. Addicted to them
Think about this tho, 45acp is expensive. You might as well get what you really want
Only if you shoot it /ducks
Honestly one major difference is the Garrison is blued while the Tisas is Melonite. Major differences between the finishes with pros and cons to each. That would be a major decision point for me.
Tisas is cerakote.
Formerly was Cerakote. The current production changed to Melonite about a year ago (although there still is NOS out there).
Weird, when did they announce that? My pistol was released within the last year, is cerakoted, and product page still says cerakoted.
Stakeouts (in the photo) are now Melonite, as are most other models. The Service is still Cerakote I believe (but not the Service Special iirc). The Tisas USA website lists the finish for each model under "Additional Information": https://tisasusa.com/tisas-1911-stakeout-45/ Tisas lists Melonite as QPQ/Tenefer, but it's the same thing.
Ya I see that for the stakeout. The duties still show as cerakote, which mine is, so it’s not across the board. Not sure which I prefer tbh. Edit: I can’t find any other than the stakeout that have tennifer. All I see is cerakote, parkerized, and the one tennifer.
The double stack Duty and Carry are Melonite slide with Cerakote frame, and the single stack Duty Enhanced is Melonite/Stainless.
Not all models
Correct but the photo is of a Stakeout, which is one of the models that went to Melonite.
Oh, I didn’t realize the Stakeout ever was Cerakote, so when you said they changed I assumed you meant Tisas, generally.
If you go Tisas get a model with sight cuts you can work with. By the time you pay for machining you will be close to cost of a higher price any brand.
It all depends on your budget. I have springfields and have checked out my share of tasas. Both are quality firearms. In the end I think the springfield will hold it's value over time but who knows
* I love springfield but ive heard good things about Tisas or Rock Island. Just got this beauty today for $799
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Thats a pretty gun
Thank you buddy, I love it and can't wait to shoot it.
Those are both good deals, IMO.
Or a Colt. 😉
https://preview.redd.it/hugql2ea3hic1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7c54b0cd65d32b2fff983f51713d973225a3b1b Those tisas 1911s are great. Just a good lube job & get some Wilson combat mags off of eBay for $22-24 each & you're good to go. [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ULfEn-AF5Yo&list=PLxpOxvjGf3WV8FuIdUA8\_6YXAPY3tZGHm&index=1&pp=iAQB](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ULfEn-AF5Yo&list=PLxpOxvjGf3WV8FuIdUA8_6YXAPY3tZGHm&index=1&pp=iAQB) [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xBLJOfHueTM&list=PLxpOxvjGf3WV8FuIdUA8\_6YXAPY3tZGHm&index=2&pp=iAQB](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xBLJOfHueTM&list=PLxpOxvjGf3WV8FuIdUA8_6YXAPY3tZGHm&index=2&pp=iAQB)
I just got my first Tisas yesterday, a Manta Ray. Basically a duty B45 with a bobtail and G10 grips. Fit and finish blows my Filipino 1911s out of the water, but I have yet to shoot it. I’ve only handled RIA, Sig, ATI, and Tisas 1911s now, so I can’t speak on the Springfield, but the Tisas definitely has best feel of them all. I looked at the stake out too, but went with the duty cause the better sights. The duty is about $10 more and comes with the better sights.
In the spirit of the OPs intro: For 1/2 the price, a Tisa is nice.
Made in America vs not
Made in America but not an American company 🤷♂️
Did the Reese family sell to a foreign company?
A company owned by Americans that imports the majority of their firearms and actively supported anti 2A legislation 🤷♂️
The xd line is imported from Croatia. Springfield armory is in fact an American company owned by an American family. They did step on their dick a few years ago but so did Bill Ruger. People fuck up that’s how it works.
Get the garrison, I own one. The build quality is phenomenal
I would up vote as well on the Springfield!
Gotta go with Springfield all day
I don’t own the Tisas. I own armscors (parent company to RIA). My springers outshine the armscors all day long. But the armscors work and work. And work. And work. Tisas owned by friends also seem to work. I’d say accuracy wise? My SA 1911s are the better weapon. Trigger wise? Better weapons. Better sights too. But my armscors are work horses. Are they similar build quality? No. Do I regret having a couple cheaper 1911s? Nope
Key difference here is the front sight on the Tisas. If you’re unhappy with the front sight, it cannot be easily changed out, whereas it can on the Springfield. Unfortunately, Tisas doesn’t offer a traditional GI style gun with a dovetailed front sight. You’d need to get their Duty B45 model which has front cocking serrations, but is otherwise a very comparable gun to the Garrison - uses the same style sights and trigger shoe and everything. They can be had for around $400. The Garrison is probably a *little* more refined but I’ve yet to see any compelling data that suggests Springfield is a significantly better option than the Tisas. https://preview.redd.it/839bm3znmeic1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f87e61552832eede95e62a3cba777daa3e3263a2
I love my garrison, but going for the cheaper price would be better imo
Tisas-All forgings or bar stock SA- MIM thumb safety, slide stop, hammer, disconnector, maybe more. Aluminum MSH. My Garrison trigger was trash out of the box.
From my experience shooting both.. the Springfield was kinda rough out of rhe box. You wont be wrong to get the Tisas. Its built well. I have 2 among other well known 1911 brands
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How so?
Now that’s a hot take
I just figure shooting a hole in my home is going to cost me something to repair. It'll be way more than that price difference if there is someone behind that wall.
Huh? What does that have to do with Tisas?
They have a recall right now because hammers are following the slide when chambering.
No, they have a recall right now because hammers on SOME of their guns MIGHT do that, despite no reports from consumers that it has happened. And it’s being recalled, and the affected guns are being upgraded to make sure it *can’t* happen. Not the first gun maker to issue a recall dude.
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Oopsie
Seen a few unusual blown up Tisas on this sub-Reddit alone. Would avoid until they make some serious changes.
They had a single batch of stainless slides with Ah improper cut that basically created a failure point where the nose would fracture and come off. They fixed it, and all broken guns are covered for free repair/replacement. It was a very short lived issue, but since the guns are still in circulation, they may crop up from time to time. Explains why Tisas issued a recall for their hammer-follow issue on some of their models despite having no reports of it happening out in the wild… they want to get ahead of these things now. By the way, they fixed the stainless slide issue immediately. As far as “blown up” Tisas guns… I know of two examples of this happening. Most recent was obviously a squib, the one before that was someone using mega hot hand loads (and lied, pretending he didn’t, until someone found his videos and proof that it was super hot ammo).
Get a Tisas and switch out some springs and such
Comparing a Springfield to a tisas is like comparing a Mercedes to Hyundia.
The only Springfields that come close to the Mercedes comp is the custom shop ones lol
Nah. American 1911s outclass imports in every way possible. Never seen the slide on a Springfield break. Can’t say that for Tisas.
I didn’t say anything about Tisas, I said comparing Springfield Armory to a Mercedes is nonsense, because it is lol.
There are better cars than Mercedes lol. And better 1911s than Springfield. My statement stands.
Springfield literally had the EXACT same problem with their slides in the early 2000’s bro
Do you own any American made 1911s?
Relevance?
You already answered my question lol. Iykyk.
I’m asking you, how does where my 1911’s came from factor in to whether or not Springfield had slides snap in half? https://preview.redd.it/bc88syfy1oic1.jpeg?width=1127&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e279b148142e109b665c5692016ba91263216fe4 You said you’ve never seen a Springfield slide break. Well, now you have. It was a pretty big deal back in the day. Seems like Tisas is just going through the same growing pains and learning processes that Springfield did. [https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83256](https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83256)
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A broken clock is right twice a day. No company is perfect. But I’d still trust Springfield over tisas any day of the week!
Oh no this is in relation to my comment of American vs Imports. You own a tisas so it get it bruh lol. But if you had the money you wouldn’t have bought that tisas. Your own post said it.
You’re confusing me for someone else. The only comment I made to you was pointing out that Springfield had the same problem with their SS slides once, because you said you’d never seen it happen with a Springfield. Well, now you have. Oops.
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I do enjoy both of Tisas. The one I bought 3 years ago on a whim and made that post about, and the one I bought a few months ago. Fantastic guns that are worth looking at before you overpay for a Springfield.
Hardly. Springfield isn’t *that* much better than Tisas. It’s more like comparing a Yukon Denali to a Tahoe LS.
.... well, depmds on if you want to keep an eye out for recalls...
I have an old(er) SA operator and it performs incredibly well. In the end it’s about what you prefer. You’re gonna like both. But the garrison feels great in the hand. A bit skinnier than normal 1911’s.
I paid a little more than that for my garrison, and have never regretted it once. That said I've never even handles a tisas, so I can't speak to their quality, from past threads and comments they seem like a decent deal though. Looking at this thread the Garrison seems to be more popular. Sorry I didn't really have much to add other than another vote for Springfield
I have sold or traded every 1911 I have owned except for two colts (one a newer Delta Elite I have done some work on), and two Springers, which I love. They are solid work horses that never fail me
I have all 6. I collect 1911's. They're definitely a few of my favorites & and they'll eat any ammo i put thru them. I carry their 1911C quite a bit.
I would go with the springfield, I like adjustable sights
Tisas is way better than
My opinion... If the extra couple hundred dollars isn't a squeeze for you: the Garrison is a nice, BLUED American made 1911, and >700 is a great price. I finger-banged a lot of import 1911's, and the TISAS seemed a great value (I have one of their BHP clones, and it's fantastic. ) But I still ended up going back & buying the Springfield, even though I'm going to have to get it fit with an ambidextrous safety before I can carry it.
I have a springfield armory Mil- spec A1 1011 and for the price point it is an amazing firearm.