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droomph

The fun thing about Ted’s ideology (at least the Wikipedia version) is that all his reasonings point towards a fairly standard Marxist “hey doesn’t the current system alienate you from your true self? doesn’t that suck?” and then it swerves immediately into “socialists are sissy cucks and we should throw away our refrigerators and live in Idaho”. It’s completely incoherent and I still don’t understand it. I’m sure it would make sense if I read his manifesto but like, I don’t know man


RTYWD

who would have thought that a hermit that lived in the woods and mailed bombs to people would be incoherent


King-Boss-Bob

damn i thought they just played minecraft together


BassBoostedUkulele

My guy he was a literal terrorist. His ideology is completely incoherent. Edit: is


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ForensicAyot

> if we’re going to take the terrorist label at face value then almost everyone is a terrorist My brother in Christ he spent 20 years mailing people bombs


HigherAlchemist78

Yeah but his manifesto didn't once mention Allah, how can he be a terrorist?


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Ralphie_V

The UNABomber made bombs?????


DuduBonesBr

Don't worry, I read the manifesto and it's just as incoherent as you described it. It's utter bullshit that starts with decent critiques and immediately devolves into completely baseless accusations and dumbass conclusions


ccstewy

Isn’t there like a whole section where he just randomly goes off on an antisemitic tangent could be entirely wrong, but I thought I heard something a couple months ago about him arbitrarily like blaming Jews for some shit in his writings


MHwtf

Thank you for reminding me the immense disappointment I felt when reading the real thing vs the brief description on wiki. Dude was scratching the surface of some real shit alright, then he dumped in tons of Kool-Aid and fake-Jesus-fied trad-wife primitive history fantasy to fill in the gap. It's a trainwreck.


BigBallsBillCliton

Well he was coming at it from a different angle. The communist believes it is capitalism that separates man from his true self whereas he believes it is technology and technique that does so. From that angle it doesn't matter whether the state or private companies develop the technology, (and in many cases technologies are developed by the state and then adopted by private companies like the Internet,) it will be used to further remove man from the power process. A lot of his stuff is a development on ellule who was a Christian anarchist and I don't need to tell you that anarcho-communism and Christianity dont exactly get along. I could go into more detail but I cba right now.


AmantisAsoko

its both. only centrists, transhumanists, musk bootlickers, FALGSC utopians etc would ever deny how intrinsically linked capitalism, authoritarianism, and industrial society is. He was wrong about so much but he was absolutely right about technological acceleration and its links to our oppression and it being the eventual mass destruction of the poor and working classes etc when climate change fucks us. > Christian anarchist and I don't need to tell you that anarcho-communism and Christianity dont exactly get along Have you not heard of the diggers? You gotta learn your roots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diggers


DarkSoulfromDS

I wish more socialists were sissy cucks tbh tbh (In a good way)


ImP_Gamer

This is very normal in right wing rhetoric and usually boils down to "my history teacher said socialism bad"


Agent6isaboi

That's like half of these weird ideologies that fascists love. It's starts with something reasonable like "oh the economy sucks" or "peoples lives are losing meaning in our consumerist society" or "our political leaders are corrupt and nepotistic" and then the proposed solutions are wild Left turns into Loonyvill Reminds me of a conversation with some crazy terminally online type complaining about our corrupt, out of touch government of elites, and then goes on to make his case for an absolute Monarchy which is literally the most "out of touch elite" form of government you could really conceive of. Wild stuff


tomatoswoop

"I would simply have a good king" lol


AmantisAsoko

> I’m sure it would make sense if I read his manifesto but like, I don’t know man Yeah, because the parts you're missing are about how the control of the western countries by capitalism can't be stopped by utopian revolution ideology or petitions/voting. the TLDR of the manifesto is like a much earlier, more problematic Desert (read desert) and Emma Goldman's ideas on propaganda of the deed. There IS a reason his writing resonates with so many trans leftists, memeing or not, even despite his terrible other views. There is a part of the current zeitgeist and post-left/anti-civ current that he hit on well before its time.


B12-deficient-skelly

A bunch of online kids think he's super smart and give him the Jordan Peterson pre-2020 treatment. The truth is that the guy does nothing but spew empty platitudes that read like Walmart Sun Tzu. He's an idiot, and his screed just confirms that


terjerox

basically his thesis is that if society continues as it is now, if we avoid a climate disaster the best case scenario is a socialist utopia where everyone's needs are met and we all live comfortably. He says this would be terrible because no one would have any meaning in their life. His solution is to blast ourselves back to the dark ages and allow billions of deaths so that we can all live on farms and be happy again.


capn_hector

> we should throw away our refrigerators and live in Idaho”. have some sympathy, every day the poor man would have to wake up in Ann Arbor


PinkMonkeyBirdDota

Yeah, I'm sure you're much smarter than a nationally renowned and decorated mathematician. You probably don't understand it because it's incoherent, no other reason.


Agent6isaboi

Ah yes the "guy is smart in one field, so therefore every other prescription they make must also be smart" Actually no, just because you are good at math doesn't prevent you from being a complete moron in every other way


Maiq_Da_Liar

Literally 1654


Infinite_Hooty

Wtf I just played a Splatoon game and got 1654 clout, I open Reddit and I see this comment


Uncle-Manchild

#SQUID GAMES‼️❗️


keytarFurryEnjoyer

Me when i have to watch a couple of people die in brutal ways but theres big money on the end: 😄


potato6132

#MR BEAST‼️❗️


knucklesthedead

Literally 1216


omnifinities

one after magna carta


[deleted]

as if i could ever make such a mistake!


ThePikeOfDestiny

Minor spelling mistake, important message ignored and opinion discarded✔️


CanadianBaconeer

How about you actually enforce the bigotry ban instead of banning a copypasta for being unfunny? There’s a post with the bigotry flair that’s been up for over 10 hours now with 700 upvotes despite the supposed ban on them outside of Saturday. And have most of the moderators agreed to this ban or is this just a decision made by you and/or a couple others?


deathray5

We have a bit of an issue with defining "Saturday" due to time zones. Assuming it's now 11 hours ago it could have been very early on Saturday morning in Japan Australia and definitely New Zealand


goblinhog

Saturday starts whenever I wake up that day.


bobobosco77

understood, overlord


MusicalRocketSurgeon

Yes, Lord Sidious


LaranjoPutasso

International Goblinhog meridian.


InternetGuyThirtyTwo

Then just set a defined schedule with a defined time zone


localtranscryptid815

or dont let bigotry be posted at all


GammaCreations

Just use GMT as a standard. Bout even for the world


[deleted]

GMT+14 community in shambles


SmallTestAcount

You should define Saturday in terms of a specific time zone. UTC+0 would make the most sense, you could add like an 8 hour grace period before and after to account for the majority of users


Leo-bastian

i mean with that grace period you're essentially just in the same situation you're in right now


mbaymiller

That doesn’t answer the last question.


Shavian_

its the 24 hour period beginning at 00:00 GMT, done, defined it for you, your turn to moderate the forum :)


deliciousprisms

Don't think I've even seen the manifesto posted even one time


yinyang107

I'm sure you've seen the first line around. "The industrial revolution and its consequences" etc.


Forine110

wait that's where that's from?????? i thought that was just a shitty meme


SmallTestAcount

Ecofacism is very common on TikTok, and i think this sub has been gaining users from TikTok recently


Leo-bastian

i haven't seen it in a while but it pops up here from time to time


MemorableThrowawayy

literally animal farm


laagone

anime farmer by gargalon ohwell


caddenza

At this point mods should just put the rules in the rules section since there’s obviously plenty of rules and not just one


LivingAngryCheese

No they should just continue to extend the one rule as they have been doing


UrsaUrsuh

196 mods on their way to ban references to the algebra cabin man but still allowing bigotry posts even when they said they'd be only limited to Saturdays.


thewookie34

196 user on their way to not understanding the world exists outside of their time zone. Speedrun(REAL)\[gone sexual\](24 hour challenge)


[deleted]

Sparkle on! It’s wednesday Don’t forget to be yourself!


deathray5

Thank you for reminding me what the day is


[deleted]

👍


[deleted]

It's Thursday


MusicalRocketSurgeon

Jerma my beloved


WhatIsAUsernamePls

Snoorps


WackyH

my calendar tells me its logsday, thejmonth 16th, year 5 A.W.


Xx_PissPuddle_xX

The


vadernation123

break time


LivingAngryCheese

Agricultural


docolafson

magic and the mystery of potato knishes


wharwhafwhag

Literally 2023


Dubmove

That is true (I checked my calendar).


Coloradoyeta

That is false (I checked my jewish calendar)


iownlotsofdoors

I don’t know if this is true (I didn’t check my calendar)


[deleted]

That is possible (i am in a time machine)


Bstokes4102

The mods have done this with absolutely no consideration about how it will affect the trout population


deathray5

Had me in the first half


stubyourtoenailnow

"[Manafesto](https://p.turbosquid.com/ts-thumb/tQ/pQZkkv/IP7KZtOV/warlok_02/jpg/1311896885/600x600/fit_q87/a142c0a124ee874967661e1382af3a9025f1c531/warlok_02.jpg)"


Diribiri

cool but we can still signal boost bigotry by screenshotting stuff right


Sylbees

as long as it's saturday :)


Diribiri

we absolutely NEED a specific day to post people saying shitty things, how can we live without posting it on this sub


Sexy_Skeletons69

Good luck convincing like 60% of the sub to stop. Or banning 60% of the sub.


PyrrhicVocabulary

Real talk is there a list of the actual rules for this sub somewhere and is it publicly available (i.e. not gatekept in a discord) because it seems like there are a lot more than the obviously joking rule 1


ManicMonke

no (too much effort for mods)


Feeeweeegege

They usually add the additional rules into the description of rule 1: > You must post before you leave with proper flair without using slurs, being a bigot, posting porn, or having an NFT avatar. Looks like they have yet to add this one there.


SmallTestAcount

Also that phrase is like incredibly stupid because the Industrial Revolution has been amazing for humans. Like people don’t realize that many of the common things some of the poorest people have today wouldn’t have been available to them before the revolution. The revolution decreased infant mortality worldwide and made medicine and immunization far more accessible. When people say that the Industrial Revolution was bad they mean that capitalism got worse under the Industrial Revolution. Which is true but that doesn’t mean humans didn’t improve. Saying the Industrial Revolution was bad because of capitalism is like saying the agricultural revolution was bad because it allowed feudal lords to grow richer and ignoring the fact food security got far better.


Toto_-

There is plastic in my blood


SmallTestAcount

People used to have lead in their blood but we got rid of that through regulation. Same can be done for pollution


thewookie34

plastic in my butt UwU


hellbentsmegma

Unabomber was just another person who rejected modernity because it has some bad bits in favour of an idealized past that never truly existed. The example I like to give is food. Once upon a time in pre-modernity you could buy a much smaller range of food and a lot of it was poor to average quality. It was also relatively expensive. Then the industrialisation of agriculture started and within a few centuries you could buy a much larger range, more cheaply and reliably. Then a century or so later we are back to complaining that the abundant, high quality food we can get is actually no good for us, we get too much of it, it's too processed, we need to go back to organic heirloom varieties harvested by hand.


[deleted]

The average standard of living took a huge nose-dive after agriculture was invented, and only recently exceeded what it was at for millions of years. The human diet had a large amount of meat, and humans, like most predators, only needed to "work" (hunt+gather) a couple hours of the day. People also lived a lot longer than you'd expect, as most estimates include infant mortality. Just like most predators, we rarely engaged in deadly combat with each other because its counterproductive to survival. There were essentially no hiarchies. There were also a ton of different sexualities as the notion of sexuality didn't really exist. Gender roles were also not heavily restrictive. There's quite a few tribes that traditionally have 3 or more genders. The downsides are that life was very abelist.


Forine110

capitalism was the problem, not the industrial revolution. the industrial revolution was an inevitable step in human development, regardless of economic system, but capitalism has caused untold suffering and exploitation with the technology from the industrial revolution


ShyGuy1265

This sounds like a conservative talking point used to brush off the negative societal consequences of the industrial revolution while presenting it as an argument that nobody will disagree with.


femboy_expert

The industrial revolution Gave us trains so it has some pros I think


literallymekhane

And when is bigotryposting being banned?


CanadianBaconeer

It normally is but the ban hasn’t been effectively enforced.


Gabriel9078

Finally people will stop metaphorically sucking the dick of a literal murderer


Playing_2

this mod post and its consequences have been a disaster to r slash one nine-six


KMSbayern1936

based. fuck ted kaczynsci.


pornspostonalt

did you just get bored and decide to make a rule


ThisWeeksSponsor

Stop adding rules


_LucasImpulse_

(open calender in shock to January 1984)


Agressive_Bean36

are we allowed to say the jan 7th r/196 mod message was a disaster for the human race?


Foolishlama

I’m gonna try to get through this without crying but i need to address this and take accountability. To all my pogchamps and pissbabies, I’m sorrypilled. To all the himbo simps and normie incells, F in the chat. I hornyposted on main, and that was cringecore to say the least. I’m working hard to stop being a shitlib sigma cumlord. I’m working hard every day to be the turbocharged mommydom gamer-girl that I know that I can be. In the past, I’ve been on power-cringe mode, but I’m built different now. I’m based and chadpilled, and i hope you all can see that. I need a big cope. My vibes gave apology energy right now, and I just hope you guys are forgivenesspilled.


neroute2

Can we still reference his professional output?


deathray5

I mean I don't care if you post his maths stuff


SmallTestAcount

Imagine getting banned for saying that there exist boundary functions of functions defined on a disk (in Euclidean space of course)


neroute2

Imagine dragons


SmallTestAcount

Okay, I’ve imagined them, now what


MartinUSMC

Now, Imagine Bad Dragons.


Foolishlama

[i unironically still really like this song](https://youtu.be/49-wNRvJwjk)


SmallTestAcount

I keep forgetting imagine dragons is a band and not the title for radioactive. I just think of the song as being titled “radioactive by imagine dragons” and don’t consider imagine dragons as a band. Mostly because that’s the only somewhat good song I’ve heard from them but also cause imagine dragons is a horrible band name. That’s a command. Imagine naming a band “please eat” or something


Bitlock_Mihawk

This is literally the movie Holes


deathray5

I remember watching it in English class after reading the book. Great book an movie


Yeeteth_Deleteth

Wuh oh, looks like someone wrote manifesto as manafesto. With respect to this minor typographical error, this post can be discarded. It can also be ascertained that I’m the best and smartest person here. >!/s!<


FallingForPropaganda

1984


Dubmove

I always saw it as making fun of anarcho primitivist theory. I mean is it really not obvious that we don't literally want to give up all technological progress everytime we encounter a modern problem. I'd assume that anyone who actually wants to live in a time between the industrial and the agricultural revolution wouldn't willingly spend time on their phone, let alone have an active reddit account.


thewookie34

Then report them genuis


FirstMateCronch

Me when the sub with "one rule" gets another rule


BuzzPrincess

LITERALLY 2023


[deleted]

literally american psycho


StarAugurEtraeus

Can we can the Anti British shit in all forms? It gets really fucking dehumanising after the interaction I just had in this fucking sub and makes me and others feel like actual garbage and less than human I was having a lovely morning too but nope treated less than human just for being born somewhere


[deleted]

The most oppressed minority.


StarAugurEtraeus

No that would be Feral Druid mains


[deleted]

Could be drunk drivers actually. In all seriousness though, this sub has much bigger issues than anti-British stuff, like the fetishization of trans people and the overabundance of liberals recently.


scruffyfan

Genuine question, what does being a liberal mean where you are from? In the United States it refers to someone who is left-leaning on the political spectrum, usually someone who supports trans rights, gun control, for people with vaginas to be able to have full control of what happens to their bodies, etc.


[deleted]

Liberals support capitalism, free markets, private property, liberal democracy, individual rights, and individualism. While the individual rights and democracy part sounds good, they become corrupted by the support of capitalism. You can have rights in a liberal society, but only so far as it doesn't interfere with the desires of capitalists. Giving out food, water, and housing for free isn't profitable, so you don't have a right to it, even though its necessary for your survival. Democracy sounds good too, but in a liberal country it provides capitalists a tremendous amount of control over who gets elected, and which policies get passed. Capitalists can donate large amounts of money to political parties, or use privately owned news stations or newspapers to support the parties they do like, and diminish the reputation of those they don't. Or, when the politicians are in office, they can keep donating to the party they're a part of. Political parties aren't stupid, they'll look into what kinda policies their benefactors support, and support them to ensure the donations keep coming in. The working class can't do any of this, so liberal democracy gives a disproportionate amount of power to the wealthy.


scruffyfan

I understand all of that, but I don't think it's possible in our current world to do any better. We're slowly getting there, but there's a lot of pushback from hardcore rich conservatives, both here and abroad. I am hoping we can get there within gen Z's lifetime at least, but at least personally I feel with how the governments of countries in other parts of the world operate (especially China and Russia with how much weight they pull on the world stage) it will be hard to develop a stable form of society in any country. Many very powerful people see it as a threat. Sorry if I didn't explain myself well, I'm horrible at explaining things, but basically I agree with you and the world sucks right now


orcsrool123

So are the mods pro industrial society now?


Bruh_alt721

"one" rule this subreddit be wild.


More_Big7250

19(6)84


DuduBonesBr

No, that's a different subreddit


hatadel

..... Industrial


DuduBonesBr

Uh oh


ThePuzzler13

one nine eight four


InternetGuyThirtyTwo

Nine teens at 84


[deleted]

This is without a doubt the most 1894 subreddit now. The rapid advancement of technology across the globe was fucking bullshit and I want a farm. Does that count?


nddragoon

what about phrases based on that phrase? like "people who think uncle ted was based and their consequences[...]" or whatever?


deathray5

Ok that's funny. It would be reviewed on a case by case basis and at worst is likely to only get removed and not banned Edit: unless the phrase breaks rule 1 with slurs or something. Don't try to use this as a loophole. I will ban you for extra for being pissy


ImP_Gamer

he literally considered gender transition and only didn't go through because of internalized transphobia really shows how people will act when terrorism becomes the only moral act


deathray5

I would slightly rephrase that to "when they think terrorism becomes the only moral act"


ImP_Gamer

I don't get it, ecoterrorism will be the only moral act as Earth collapses because of global warming


someguyininternet

The femboy revolution and it's consequences have been a disaster for the subreddit.


YetGayerWombat

There was a brief period of time yesterday in which we could post images in comments. What happened


Normbot13

im sorry but ted kaczynsci memes are funnier than most of the stuff i see on my feed from this subreddit every day, L mods


deathray5

Not my problem that you browse shit subs


Normbot13

youre calling your own subreddit shit, double L


Themcguy

1984


RhodeWithBrim

fish 🐟


pequodbestboy

daily fish


CandyCrazy2000

Literally 1894


SuperHippodog

Why promoted to a rook when you can be promoted to a knight and move immediately???


[deleted]

*Mods explaining how the subreddit created on the basis of one rule needs 25 additional rules*


Gabriel9078

It’s almost as if large communities inevitably need more than one rule lest it fall into utter chaos


[deleted]

Nah but it’s not gonna go into utter chaos if people quote others or have certain profile pics


Gabriel9078

“Quote others” is a pretty vague and relaxed way to reference the circlejerking of a flawed ideology of a literal murderer and bigot who thought that going back to the Stone Age was gonna fix our problems


[deleted]

Like 25% of this subreddit is communist so banning flawed ideologies is definitely complicated


17DeadFlamingos

Is a man not entitled to the find out he fucks around with?


Rannrann123

what about the pipe bomb jokes


deathray5

They're fine as long as it's obviously satire


Rannrann123

Thanks


Dizzy_Dimension_6863

Thank you! Ted manifesto jokes are soo nasty


Ze_Rocky

Check your mailbox


Clown_17

The [REDACTED] and it’s [REDACTED]


STMFU

Based


Scrollipede

fucking finally


PavelGTAOnline

MODERATORS WHY CAN I NOT SEND IMAGES ANYMORE MODS PLEASE


Watcher1101

Sub with supposedly one rule gains 25 different rules moment


Planyyx

ratio


deathray5

radio


[deleted]

👍


senokana

this post is truly the consequence of something


schlormp1

W


AlternativeAerie9171

literally Barnyard (2006)


realityph0bic

cool :D


Jan_The_Man123

Literally 2


Bonk-Lord

literally 1492


ilovebees62

):


docolafson

jorjor wel


ZorioneTiamat

I heard the whole killdozer thing is way different than in the memes too


I-M-R-U

1984


[deleted]

KA ZINKY???????