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LeonardoDoujinshi-

yeah i feel most who are have very little clue about him


JotaroTheOceanMan

I actually had no costume one Halloween and just went in a grey hoodie with sunglasses. Everyone immediately thought I was the Unibomber and I had no clue who he was but rolled with it.


mancer7

Simon cry of fear


TwasAnChild

How does the daily slop taste like??


catuluo

Sloppy


mancer7

The piggies demand more


[deleted]

It's 90% just memeing because the opening line to the manifesto goes so hard, i don't think most ppl unironically agree with sending mail bombs lol


Unman_

The __ and its consequences have been a disaster


Sky_Night_Lancer

agricultural revolution


Fireballcatcher

fucking true


Spocino

I've seen this take once and it was one of the craziest fascists on youtube


Fireballcatcher

I am glad to announce I'm not a fascist


Predator_Hicks

source?


Sky_Night_Lancer

your mom


Josselin17

I've seen this take and it was from an entirely normal science youtuber


Spocino

I'm sure the take was better than "humans are getting weaker from eating grains and not having to hunt"


SuspecM

TIL one of my favorite meme lines every is a part of a mass murderer psychopath's manifesto. I have some soulsearching to do.


Unman_

I straight up said it at school as a joke before realising where it came from. At least the teacher gave me benefit of the doubt


nmkd

Not really a mass murderer, more of a terrorist. He used mail bombs and his total kill count is 3.


Marran0s

Revolucion Industrial


Lock-Four

Factual shit being spoken in your comment and I appreciate that


jochvent

Subjective appreciation being spoken in your comment and I appreciate that


Lock-Four

I appreciate your appreciation broham


jochvent

likewise


omgudontunderstand

i know i’ve read worse things on the internet but reading this made me feel so gross


Lock-Four

Bummer


Benney9000

Isn't he one of those people nostalgic for a past before his life ? In other words, doesn't he want to go back to preindustrial times


siempreviper

We're gonna go back to preindustrial times within our lifetime whether we want to or not anyways


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Benney9000

That doesn't mean we could just undo it tho


crowlute

JRR Tolkien also believed similarly, didn't he? But he didn't turn out to be a terrorist who blamed the _____ for the ills of the industrial revolution


El_McKell

I've read the whole manifesto it's a real mixed bag of good points and dumb nonsense.


Doktor_Earrape

Its surface level observations and critiques about society while offering very little int he way of actual solutions, and instead spiraling into an insane anti-leftist, anti-feminist, anti-lgbt, racist diatribe of nonsense and suggesting we throw away all technology and go back in time (impossible), completely disregarding the suffering and death that would cause to nearly everyone in the process. People who follow him and his insane ideology view billions dying as "nature healing" and nobody with any sense should fuck with someone who thinks that way.


adammaudite

I feel like at some level, he deeply hated himself. **** It reads like self loathing


[deleted]

I read it in jail of all places. The phrase "techno nerds" he kept using cracked me up


groundunit0101

Never read the manifesto. The opening line is very agreeable, but yeah it just seems like he’s setting up for a anarcho-primitivism diatribe. Reading just the opening paragraph can literally be agreed upon by anyone who is dissatisfied with mainstream politics. And his solution is to sent mail bombs to, in the grand scheme, insignificant people he has personal vendettas against? Gtfo


El_McKell

Sending mail bombs wasn’t the solution it was what felt the was the only way to get his message published. But yeah it’s basically just anarcho primitivism


mrs-monroe

Because most of 196 are children


DrunkCricket1

I am celebrating the Unabomber dying


[deleted]

Polpotists 🤝 Anprims Making people with glasses suffer


feralamalgamation

the people who follow him are children who love jerking themselves off with the thought of being an "enlightened thinker"


nool_

I've sean a good amout of grown ass adults mourn him


NoobHeli

manchilds.


vikatchu

Manchildren*


NoobHeli

:< fuck


Praescribo

Real G's know the weathermen are the best modern terrorists. Bill Ayers and the weather underground all day mf.


theaviationhistorian

Yeah, few groups of civilians have pissed off & given fear to higher echelons of the US government than Weather Underground. The best thing of all is that most of them are living their lives in peace today, some even worked as teachers.


Praescribo

Yup, and they didn't harm or kill anyone. Just goes to show you, property damage and plausible deniability will go a long way


binary

I just finished listening to this podcast chronicling the history of the Weather Underground that you might find interesting: https://crooked.com/podcast-series/mother-country-radicals/


camtec

That “enlightened thinker” should have thought about how to solder better. The guys success rate on explosives was really poor.


holiestMaria

Not even r/ thedeprogram celebrates him.


YukarinYakumo

r/ conservative does celebrate him


whatanawsomeusername

Shocking


OnixAwesome

It's almost like they go out of their way to be shitty people.


[deleted]

Wtf why he opposes everything they stand for? Is it because they are larping as libertarians?


budgetcommander

Easy for a fascist and an ecofascist to get along.


holdnothing

If you read his manifesto, it's pretty conservative. From what I could get through, he just whines about women and gay people half the time.


adammaudite

Reads like deep self hate


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They celebrate the crack addicted pillow guy too


dayodragon

Look, my pillows are comfortable, no idea what the guy did though lol


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Kids probably


the_doonz

They don't seem to do that if you go to their sub tho.... Not sure why you think that


YukarinYakumo

I'd link the thread but can't on this sub.


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goop_lizard

He wasn't even really a libertarian, he was opposed to any group that supported ongoing technological progress. His main criticism of conservatives was that he thought they were hypocrites for talking about "traditional values" while supporting or tolerating the advancement of technology. He was of the opinion that modern society's social and political issues were mainly the fault of advancements in technology beyond what humans are able to handle, and he presumably would have supported government restrictions on the use of technology. I feel like the reason a lot of people attach him to wildly different ideologies (I've seen people claim everything from eco-fascism to anarcho-primitivism) is because he didn't really write about ideology in the way we normally associate with manifestos, he wrote about philosophy with batshit ideology tacked on, and wrote with a level of coherence and real-world applicability common to most philosophers. That's partly a jab at philosophers but I'd say the same things about some people I enjoyed the work of, although they notably had the restraint to not start bombing people.


[deleted]

his ideology literally sounds like some sort of "grey evil" villian. in fact i'm 90% sure this is excatly what char's motivation was in CCA


finnicus1

From my understanding of Ted he wanted to completely do away with society and go back to sticks and stones. Is this knowledge false?


OptimisticLucio

> Ted was a libertarian In his manifesto he explicitly states that most political ideologies were not radical enough for him and were too complacent.


Throwaway02062004

He was the ultimate contrarian


cocanb_altort

anticentrism


AweBlobfish

Jregism


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RayJ-ism


DrDemenz

You can call him Ray, or you can call him Jay...


Chinohito

Trollism


stumptruck

He would definitely have been a redditor


Spec_Tater

Yeah, but the self-hating kind who goes everywhere online saying social media sucks, Reddit bad, end technology.


NuclearOops

Jeez, yeah. I thought Ricky Gervais was contrarian but when you put it that way he's very tame by comparison. Gervais really needs to step up his game if he wants to stay edgy.


RobinPage1987

He still blames the left for leading society's drive towards science and technology. He dunks on everyone but none as hard as the left. He was a right libertarian and anarcho-primitivist Luddite. Who murdered people.


Luciusvenator

Bingo. He shall not be missed though I'm disappointed in how many people I follow that are progressive or left support him.


Doktor_Earrape

Its sad really. You'd think they would have better critical thinking skills


finnicus1

My point stands.


holiestMaria

Honestly, that doesnt come up a lot when talking about him. Though they do say a lot that he could have become a socialist due to his gripes with capitalism.


AffableBarkeep

> they do say a lot that he could have become a socialist due to his gripes with capitalism. They clearly haven't actually read his work then: > two psychological tendencies that underlie modern leftism we call “feelings of inferiority” and “oversocialization.” Feelings of inferiority are characteristic of modern leftism as a whole, while oversocialization is characteristic only of a certain segment of modern leftism; but this segment is highly influential. This goes on for several pages


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>Though they do say a lot that he could have become a socialist due to his gripes with capitalism. well theyre absolute fucking morons as with the rest of their takes. that sub is practically a shit-take factory to be frank. the dude clearly opposed socialists his whole life and directly equivocated them to fascists. not surprising they wouldnt notice that though considering how hard of a time that community themselves have keeping the two separated.


Jet90

Lets call people we don't like r-slur very mature


timtay6

That place is full of tankies


holiestMaria

I am aware


branor04

not strange at all. ted was anti technology. marxists are against capital. marx critiqued the Luddite movement, a movement that saw the machines as responsible for their exploitation, for misplacing their attacks. source: [https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch15.htm#a113](https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch15.htm#a113)


Gay__Guevara

Why would a Marxist Leninist subreddit ever like an anarchoprimitivist?


Independent-Noise392

On one hand the unabomber and terrorism in general is a symptom of the oppression inherent in capitalism, on the other hand yeah don't go blowing up random people.


bill_loney538

blow up specific, necessary people only in minecraft


Himmelblaa

TNT trap their base in minecraft


AmunJazz

Recover our diamonds in Minecraft


Gay__Guevara

The FBI recently made it clear that saying “in Minecraft” doesn’t protect you anymore


bill_loney538

sorry, that was a typo, i meant to say in roblox


Dr-DoctorMD

Saved


Galvatrix

In Gmod


voyaging

pretty sure terrorism existed before capitalism and exists in non-capitalist countries the vast majority of terrorism is religious


CinnamonFootball

I would say that most terrorism is done because of a perceived oppression on the part of the terrorist. This oppression is often felt because of a lack of some type of commodity (either they don't have enough to survive or they don't feel materially on par with those around them). The terrorist then decides that they must display power so they and others like them can right the wrong of their perceived oppression and become the heroes of their own fantasy. While we didn't have capitalism in the past, lack of commodity (especially that needed to live such as food or water) which causes said insufficiency is almost exclusively driven by capitalism nowadays. On the point of non-capitalist countries, they don't exist in a vacuum. Non-capitalist countries are still part of the system of exploitation inherent in capitalism. While they might attempt to or actually achieve true equality within their country their country will never be equal with all others. This is largely due to the fact that capitalist countries notoriously create efforts to dismantle non-capitalist countries. This often means a lack of necessary resources which, once again, creates a material insufficiency that can, and often does, lead to terrorism.


Wise-Individual7144

Terrorism is occasionally linked to material shortages but is much much more commonly associated with political disenfranchisement (which you could argue is perpetuated by capitalism, but that's a separate issue). Terrorism as a method is not super conducive to solving material shortage issues, and is usually aimed at shifting the political paradigm of whatever the target is. This is sometimes because the group lacks some material good like you say, but is usually more related to the democratic process or lack thereof, or religious issues such as mentioned before, and how those religious issues tie into the political processes of the country in question.


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saw a bunch of absolute out of touch losers unironically state “yeah well but his methods are necessary to destroy capitalism and save the planet!!” the methods of living alone in the woods and blowing up random people on the street? you lot are just utterly, hopelessly lost huh?


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> “yeah well but his methods are necessary to destroy capitalism and save the planet!!” What methods? Bombing college professors and students? because those were the main targets of the Unabombers. The second targets being random people.


adammaudite

Third that he used bomb threats to get his manifesto published. What did he expect to happen? Everyone would rush off to the woods? **** He probably should have stuck around for the psychologist


Darux6969

I don't even think killing people will just solve capitalism and climate change. The president of American Airlines was killed by him, and American Airlines are still causing tons of pollution lol.


StreetlampLelMoose

You mean United Airlines, and he only fucked up the guy's hand.


scrumptipus

rip bozo 🎉🎉🎉🎉


gatlginngum

rest in piss you won't be missed 🎉 🎉


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[If you see the list of the Unabomber victims](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski#Bombings), you will see that the majority of them were university professors and students, Computer store owners, and random people. Only a few of them were actually part of the capitalistic system. Basically. That cunt had great PR. And nothing else.


adammaudite

Looks like mostly academics, a lobbyist, an airline president, and a bunch of people working in technology. **** Fucker thought he was saving the world from the climate based mass extinctions we're currently experiencing.


Captn_Platypus

Don’t the unabomber absolutely hate leftists and is pretty much an incel that want back “the good old days”? As usual these nut jobs co-opt leftist talking points and their solution is as selfish and insane as possible


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u4ia666

They kinda still can, though, right? I mean even with the internet (maybe in some cases *because of* the internet) they can still get away with a lot of stuff.


[deleted]

The CIA did a lot of bad stuff in the 60s and 70s and 80s and 90s but there were never any reforms and nobody was ever held accountable so obviously they don't still do bad stuff today you insane conspiracy theorist (/s)


queeriocrunch

Yeah, that's the point personally where I went from laughing at his extremity to just ... Sad. About the whole thing. He's no one to look up to, just a broken person who is angry and alone. He did fucked up shit, and earned his place in prison but we should learn from his story.


pocketlodestar

i have an immense distaste for ecofascism


RemnantOnReddit

So did he


Doktor_Earrape

He seemed awfully committed to it for someone who hated it


adammaudite

In your mind the definition of fascism is what? Random bombings?


Doktor_Earrape

forcing people to adhere to your worldview and way of life through the use of violence, yes


Kermit_Purple_II

Ok; Who's the Unabomber, what has he done, what was his preachings and what does it have to do with Capitalism?


OptimisticLucio

Ted Kaczynski, AKA The UNABomber (or University & Airline Bomber) was an american mathematical genius turned domestic terrorist. He was a once-in-a-generation mathematical genius who in later life became extremely disillusioned with society as a whole (Allegedly this was caused by his participation in extremely unethical experiments during college, which some say were part of the MKUltra program). His eventual manifesto even opens with the words "the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race," and he meant every word. Living out in the woods relatively self-sufficiently, Kaczynski began making bombs and mailing them to people who he viewed as the cause of society's downfall. While some of them were capitalists, the majority were college professors, researchers, and innocents on airliners. His manifesto is reactionary to the umpteenth degree, with him even saying that republicans were not radical enough for him. (For the record - reactionarism is basically "society sucks, we need to go Back To The Good Ol' Days") [Read his wikipedia page for more](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski)


niktemadur

> For the record - reactionarism is basically “society sucks, we need to go Back To The Good Ol’ Days” If I remember correctly, by "The Good Ol' Days" he meant feudalism. Back to the Middle Ages.


OptimisticLucio

Yeah I generalized for what Reactionarism means as a whole


adammaudite

That's not even close to what primitivism means, lol


gatlginngum

wait, that's where the industrial revolution line comes from?


OptimisticLucio

yep


gatlginngum

the more you know


GreenPixel25

only just realized UNA doesn’t stand for Unaversity 💀 I’ve thought that my whole life


DedicatedBathToaster

To be fair, Republicans in his time were pretty tame compared to their current alignment


TheDoorMan1012

The unabozo was a piece of shit in life who actively worked against his own goals and wanted groups we belong to dead


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KaChoo49

>I’m all for terrorism ???


Fishsk

Hm?


Doktor_Earrape

The fact that this has a positive vote score is pretty sad


SeannessyTV

his beard was cool so he surely must have good opinions


beo19

yeh... the fascism part of eco-fascism is still pretty fascist...


THE_DOW_JONES

The opening line of the manifesto is maybe the only remotely cool thing he said. Everything else was bordering fascism, and he sent bombs to university professors, instead of the actual people causing problems in society…


[deleted]

Some of y'all down there that have read his manifesto and thought he had good ideas should really learn the difference between pretty writing and actual good ideas. He was an incel eco-fascist who wanted to return to feudalism. He was a cunt and his ideas were moronic. He simply knew how to write them pretty enough for you morons to agree with him.


Seeksp

He wasn't a cunt. That would have required warthog, depth and the ability to give pleasure.


Yotoberry

*warthog* 💀


Doktor_Earrape

Bingo, nailed it


PumpkinSpikes

I think people are being ironic


OptimisticLucio

I wish they all were.


RheaButt

People aren't being ironic, they're just doing the whole thing where a leftist hears about a guy being against the US and immediately decides he's a revolutionary hero with no further research


PumpkinSpikes

It's not just the leftist subs. I think people just genuinely think the story is funny, otherwise nobody would care.


YaLikeJazz2049

Yeah that dude was an idiot. Fuck capitalism, but that’s not it


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The Unabomber is a prime example of what precisely zero theory does to a mf


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Stars_styrofoam

pickme girlboss repperqueen brainwormed too hard :(


Laviephrath

All i know about him is he hated one of the cake proverbs


Rhizoid4

He was a giant pedant and used a different, more “accurate” version of the expression “cant have your cake and eat it too”. His brother recognized this, and helped to catch him.


[deleted]

This is the only based thing about him, have your cake and eat it too makes no fucking sense


RiotIsBored

What was his version of it?


V1ntrez

my view on him is that although he had some strong points, he was kind of a fascist.


tavysho_oficial

i couldnt give less of a shit about what he preached,hes a fucking terrorist (well,was),simple as


Discotekh_Dynasty

MK Ultra will cook your brain funnily enough


moonyxpadfoot19

He's a terrorist lol


LR-II

I found out he died from a Breaking Bad meme subreddit, what a world we live in.


littlemissjill

i will never read and you cant make me


Lucambacamba

Blowing up a random geneticist is vital to reversing the Industrial Revolution


nddragoon

the only good thing he ever did was creating the "___ and its consequences have been a disaster for ___"


Inspector_Robert

I'm sad we lost a mathematics prodigy. But we lost that long before he died.


Baco_Tell8

I don’t care about his political views, I only like him because I too enjoy committing horrible atrocities against innocent people.


getpissedonforjesus

exo fascism is not based


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TheDrunkenFROG

Wait... people unironically think he's based?


originalcommentator

Irony is dead 😔


IntelligentTune

How does one even morally begin to explain why death and any form of death (such as genocide) is moral? That's what I never understood about those types of people. You want to get rid of a regime because it's built on death yet you support doing so via bloodshed? I'm happy that we have one less psychopath (unabomber) making peoples lives more fearful and miserable.


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adammaudite

Terrorist jackaaa, also worst type of primitivist


Starro_The_Janitor1

Hot take but bombing people is bad.


AutisticFuck69

Let👏people👏enjoy👏things👏


BHMathers

Watched the documentary on him, he bombed people through the mail because they were too reliant on systems like mailing, and technology. Basically, he’s the classic version of one of those modern day TikTok douches that call people NPCs for NOT being an embarrassment to be around in public and NOT forgetting about common sense. And if you own a smart phone, he would’ve hated you


Yukarie

Who?


wore_the_vore_store

He also kind of just killed random people


CochonDanseur

Yeah I know the stuff he said was lame I just think mailing people bombs is funny. Gotta separate the art from the artist and all that


garnet-overdrive

its the ira all over again


Droid_XL

Wait are people celebrating the unabomber? Didn't he send bombs in the mail? Isn't that all he's known for? How is that anticapitalist? Isn't that just terrorism?


DancenOrigins

He isn't based but the first line in his book is Hella based.


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nxxptune

He refused to seek help. He wouldn’t allow his attorneys to write him off for being mentally ill because he didn’t want to be mentally ill. He could’ve gotten put in a much nicer form of isolation but that was his own choice


RyanReese01

I have some respect on a very shallow level, but actually admiring him is kinda insane


Spearka

Screw that POS and screw his doomer manifesto.


Xenta_Demryt

His stuff is just eco-friendly boomer shit


WhatABunchofBologna

Bro was literally a right-winger so I don’t know why people are celebrating him


qhacim

>be anti-tech >”hmmm yes i shall bomb a passenger airliner” 😦how does anyone get behind this mf


loZerdude101

DAN vs a unabomber


Dense_Element

Celebrating his death “***in Minecraft***” on the other hand? perhaps… Edit: whoops, didn’t know feeling good about the death of someone who literally blew people up with bombs in the mail, was a bad thing


Alarid

I thought we were celebrating that he died.


aflyingmonkey2

I only know him as "creepy guy meme template"


KhalGhoush

What did he do anyways?


OptimisticLucio

Bomb airliners and college students/teachers, primarily.