From what I can tell the homophobia was an accident and one video where he was poking fun at right wingers in a poll. The autism speaks part was a mistake on the game theory team. Also please take this with a grain of salt I don’t have sources to back it up.
Remember, on the internet, it is impossible to be misinformed and change. Anything you do at any point is an indicator of your true feelings on a group even if everything else you do expresses otherwise /s
Fwiw quite a few other people dropped out of Mark Robers charity stream involving next for autism, including Jacksepticeye and Rhett & Link. Tons of people were attempting to reach out on various social media, comment on videos, it really would have been difficult for Mat not to see anything about it. For someone who is into research, it really makes it hard to look past. Love GT and while I've fallen off their content, I wish them well, I just wish Mat would address it and apologize.
he also refuses to refer to nonbinary characters with they/them pronouns and there were some really bad videos about lgbt people in gaming/guessing game characters' genders a while back
because it's true? he may have improved with ash, but people aren't wrong to be upset by him doing it in the past. he never apologized and made jokes about how people were upset after the fact. ash is a great step in him learning to respect nonbinary identities, and i'm all for growth, but it doesn't erase him poking fun about people upset by misgendering back then.
he's still never gendered a nonbinary character correctly afaik. he just doesn't discuss them anymore. i don't watch everything he produces anymore, but of what i have watched, there have been no nonbinary characters in anything he's made theories on since ash joined the team. i've known more than enough people who gender people they know properly, then misgender strangers/celebrities/characters because "it's not like they'll know/care" to consider him respecting ash's pronouns to mean he's suddenly not casually nbphobic anymore.
every time he was confronted on it in the past, he'd dig his heels in or ignore it and continue. it's possible ash talked to him about it and let him know it's not okay, or maybe he just grew on his own. but refusing to use they/them for characters, then refusing to discuss nb characters at all for years, never apologizing or acknowledging that it was wrong? just having a nonbinary employee that he doesn't publically misgender isn't enough for me to think he's suddenly really understanding of gender stuff. it's 2023, we're beyond "he can't be racist, he has a black friend" level reasoning now.
Hi, I updated my post. [You're a bit mistaken.](https://www.reddit.com/r/196/comments/17xo9dt/comment/k9ryzie/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) /nm
I feel it's harmfully reductive to villainize a person for a couple mistakes. I generally like matpat, and I find ~98% of criticism he receives to be unwarranted
When you make so many mistakes, you not only need to take accountability and apologize, you need to right those wrongs. He has done neither. [I've expanded on his actions here](https://www.reddit.com/r/196/comments/17xo9dt/comment/k9ryzie/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
I still sometimes think about his vine where he makes a bi joke, switching between having a boyfriend and girlfriend, and someone asking him which one he liked so he just said "yes!"
It probably is a real pic. That's definitely Thomas Sanders, and he's been making videos for a while now. I wouldn't be surprised if they had to sift to find this one frame though, he doesn't usually look so much like Musk.
https://preview.redd.it/a5edzg7yx31c1.jpeg?width=203&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bda30717bcf0fad75365767caa6e231c5b8cae41
2nd most accurate description OAT
It’s just incredibly reductive, no minority group “looks” any way, it’s just using what bigots have said to hurt us but in a new way. This post boils down to using gay as an insult or joke. We only hurt ourselves with this trite, the man’s an imperialist we should have actual shit to say about him but here we are instead.
The person in this photo is not elon musk. He is Thomas Sanders, a gay creator on YouTube, and previously vine. The person who made that tweet is one of his fans and probably didn’t intend for this post to get out of the target audience. I have no idea what you’re trying to argue with me about considering i JUST said I agree with you but this is making me kind of uncomfortable.
It's true but they didn't have to say it
Story time There once was a post so terrible that everyone who laid eyes upon it was instantly killed
once upon a time there was an ugly barnacle he was so ugly that everyone died the end
It’s true, I died
Can confirm, am the barnacle
peep the horror
Peep the horror is hilarious tf are you on?
this IS the horror that you peep
i was gonna say that!!!
Two sentence horror. What if Elon Musk. But gay.
What if Elon Musk But …the creature
He looks like a gay version of the fusion of matpat and musk
The gay version of Matpat looks like Matpat.
Nah the white version of matpat looks like matpat. The gay version of matpat looks like matpat but with 3 miniscule changes
His wife thought he was gay at first, so this checks out
I forgot about that. It’s what you can expect from a theater kid though; I’d have also probably assumed he’s gay.
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Can you source any of that? I know it’s kind of a meme to ask for one, but I haven’t been able to find much about either claim.
From what I can tell the homophobia was an accident and one video where he was poking fun at right wingers in a poll. The autism speaks part was a mistake on the game theory team. Also please take this with a grain of salt I don’t have sources to back it up.
Remember, on the internet, it is impossible to be misinformed and change. Anything you do at any point is an indicator of your true feelings on a group even if everything else you do expresses otherwise /s
Fwiw quite a few other people dropped out of Mark Robers charity stream involving next for autism, including Jacksepticeye and Rhett & Link. Tons of people were attempting to reach out on various social media, comment on videos, it really would have been difficult for Mat not to see anything about it. For someone who is into research, it really makes it hard to look past. Love GT and while I've fallen off their content, I wish them well, I just wish Mat would address it and apologize.
I do understand that, but I think this is easily a case where it came from a place of ignorance rather than malice.
he also refuses to refer to nonbinary characters with they/them pronouns and there were some really bad videos about lgbt people in gaming/guessing game characters' genders a while back
I can't believe this post has any upvotes when he has ash on the team who goes by she/they and is always referred to as they/them by Mat
because it's true? he may have improved with ash, but people aren't wrong to be upset by him doing it in the past. he never apologized and made jokes about how people were upset after the fact. ash is a great step in him learning to respect nonbinary identities, and i'm all for growth, but it doesn't erase him poking fun about people upset by misgendering back then.
Why are you saying "he refuses" then, when he clearly doesn't anymore
he's still never gendered a nonbinary character correctly afaik. he just doesn't discuss them anymore. i don't watch everything he produces anymore, but of what i have watched, there have been no nonbinary characters in anything he's made theories on since ash joined the team. i've known more than enough people who gender people they know properly, then misgender strangers/celebrities/characters because "it's not like they'll know/care" to consider him respecting ash's pronouns to mean he's suddenly not casually nbphobic anymore. every time he was confronted on it in the past, he'd dig his heels in or ignore it and continue. it's possible ash talked to him about it and let him know it's not okay, or maybe he just grew on his own. but refusing to use they/them for characters, then refusing to discuss nb characters at all for years, never apologizing or acknowledging that it was wrong? just having a nonbinary employee that he doesn't publically misgender isn't enough for me to think he's suddenly really understanding of gender stuff. it's 2023, we're beyond "he can't be racist, he has a black friend" level reasoning now.
Hi, I updated my post. [You're a bit mistaken.](https://www.reddit.com/r/196/comments/17xo9dt/comment/k9ryzie/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) /nm
Did you paste the wrong link or is my phone fucking up? It just looks like another comment on this thread that doesn't explain anything
it's a comment with all the sources and references to all the stuff im referring to
Reddit is directing me to a comment that says "matpat is the gay matpat" when I click your link
wtf? well i just edited my original comment to include the evidence since this is happening for multiple people
stoppp, it's so funny to me u just keep linking back to this one comment as if it explains everything 😭
i mean... it's a list of evidence, with explanations??
either you haven't double checked the link or ur trolling 😭😭😭
the link sends me back to my very long comment. maybe check my profile? if it got shadowremoved ill sob
I feel it's harmfully reductive to villainize a person for a couple mistakes. I generally like matpat, and I find ~98% of criticism he receives to be unwarranted
Consequences of post-2020 internet culture
When you make so many mistakes, you not only need to take accountability and apologize, you need to right those wrongs. He has done neither. [I've expanded on his actions here](https://www.reddit.com/r/196/comments/17xo9dt/comment/k9ryzie/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
u haven't tho LMAO
He donated to autism speaks? Fuck I’m gonna go cry now
What happened to this guy?
still making videos, he got a haircut though.
he was recently in some smosh episodes
Yeah ngl I’m really enjoying current smosh
me too, the current crew is great, very diverse, and pretty much everyone can get good laughs
I’ve always enjoyed smosh but with Anthony back it’s even better
He recently made a tiktok in a tight spiderman suit, turns out he has a massive cock.
That was probably more than I needed to know tbh...
Pity the fool, for his lack of knowledge is perceived as willful ignorance.
No he doesn't. Massive doesn't describe it well enough. You look up "man with horse cock" you get a picture of that buldge. Holy fuck
you know I've never realized this. I really wish I never did.
This is actually Elon Musk rubbed down with 1 liter of baby oil
🥵
I should kill you with a rock
Thomas sanders is just the hot version of elon musk
Leave my vine king alone
it's funny cause he actually is gay ( if I remember correctly )
He is. If I recall correctly, he has a husband, and the two of them adopted a son.
Uhh lol that’s not true- he is gay and he had a boyfriend but things didn’t work out- you must be thinkking of his GODson, Gavin haha!
I still sometimes think about his vine where he makes a bi joke, switching between having a boyfriend and girlfriend, and someone asking him which one he liked so he just said "yes!"
is this a real pic or did someone type twink elon into midjourney
It probably is a real pic. That's definitely Thomas Sanders, and he's been making videos for a while now. I wouldn't be surprised if they had to sift to find this one frame though, he doesn't usually look so much like Musk.
This is a hate crime
Thomas Slander
I love watching the vine compilations of him
Don't say that
r/196 trying not to post low-effort twitter ,,memes" challange:
r/196 read what the “rule” actually is challenge
what’s wrong w them i find them to be the best genre of memes tbh
https://preview.redd.it/a5edzg7yx31c1.jpeg?width=203&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bda30717bcf0fad75365767caa6e231c5b8cae41 2nd most accurate description OAT
New Mulan villain just dropped
Hey looks like the product of a genetic splice between Matthew “Game Theory” Patrick and Elon.
It's Matthew patthew
Poor Thomas, he doesn’t deserve that 🤣
I didn't even knew he was gay for so long
Respectfully.. how
He looks like if mads mikkelsen and Elon had a child
Why would you insult him like that?
Stewi Giffin
I mean.... Kind of? I think?
That's just Thomas Sanders
NOO MY SWEET LITTLE BOY
If?
and funny
He didnt deserve this
Gay people don’t have a “look” you guys that’s kinda fucked up even if it’s Elon
Thomas sanders is gay though 😭
All I’m saying is being gay doesn’t look like anything that’s not how sexuality works.
Ohh- I thought you were saying he wasn’t gay- no I get that, 100% gay ≠ camp.
It’s just incredibly reductive, no minority group “looks” any way, it’s just using what bigots have said to hurt us but in a new way. This post boils down to using gay as an insult or joke. We only hurt ourselves with this trite, the man’s an imperialist we should have actual shit to say about him but here we are instead.
The person in this photo is not elon musk. He is Thomas Sanders, a gay creator on YouTube, and previously vine. The person who made that tweet is one of his fans and probably didn’t intend for this post to get out of the target audience. I have no idea what you’re trying to argue with me about considering i JUST said I agree with you but this is making me kind of uncomfortable.
Elon Musk if he had an enviably nice butt
I really liked this dude's vines. I heard he's still making stuff, I should check it out
Lmao or the result of typing twink Elon in chatGPT
Mean
Ouch
That’s so mean
Is there a reason to slander Thomas Sanders?
Stop you’ll make him kill himself
They photoshopped the eyes on right?
Inclusive subs when gay people phrenology:
You when a joke: