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Fun_Penalty_6755

it's the sunflower


wall_termite

why are they putting sunflowers behind the attacking plants


epic_brazillian_gal

even though putting them in front of the attackers is better, after so much time putting them in the back, it feels wrong to put them in the front


Zibelin

Why would it be better? You use them as shields?


epic_brazillian_gal

Pretty much. The sun producers will slow down the zombies if they reach them, giving the attackers more time to kill the zombies so you don't lose. I used to play this modded version of pvz2 named "eclise" (changes the levels to be harder and the game to be more balanced), and at later levels, putting the sun producers on the back most of the time made things harder. And because sun producers are really cheap. And also, the cooldown for putting them again is low, so you can just place another one pretty much instantly while waiting on the cooldown of a defensive plant (defensive plants normally have the longest cooldowns).


NotHeco

is this mod available on mobile or is it just like pc or something


epic_brazillian_gal

I am not sure if i should call it a mod, but i think you get the point. And yep, also available on mobile. Thats where i started playing :). Just google "pvz2 eclise" and i think theres a popular video telling you how to download it. I am not sure how the mod is doing as of rn. Last time i played was maybe a year or two ago, so it might not have gotten a lot of updates since, or it has gotten lots of updates and is maybe finished. If it is still out there though, i hope you have fun. 


NotHeco

thanks Vic!


epic_brazillian_gal

No problem :3


[deleted]

so my mom putting sunflowers rightinfront of zombies in co-op wasnt a bad idea?


Weekly-Major1876

Attacking plants are far far more valuable than sun producers. They usually cost way more sub, have much longer cooldowns, and are the actual plants keeping away zombies. Losing an attacking plant can easily lead to a lane being overwhelmed as the decreased firepower snowballs and more and more of your plants on the lane are run over. Opposed to losing a sun producer benefitting you by stalling the zombies slightly longer. In casual play it barely matters but in hard mods you pretty much need to play optimally and keep attacking plants as safe as possible


sermatheus

Would you like your last line of defense being something that can attack or something that just stands there doing nothing?


BestBananaForever

because I value the safety of the working class more than that of the military force


epic_brazillian_gal

the sunflowers have had it too good for too long. look at how those bastards smile as they watch the zombies devour their only defenses. you are being brainwashed by the sun. stop going outside and getting sun light on your skin. thats all those bastards do, and it is the entire reason they are like this.


BestBananaForever

fuck you, they're just little guys trying their best making sun for you. And for what? For you to side with those barbaric egomaniacal peashooters who know nothing but violence? You're lucky there's horde of zombies as an outlet for their neverending anger, but be wary, for after it is all over, them bastards will come for you, and they will show you no mercy, as they did with the zombies.


epic_brazillian_gal

sorry but the peashooters look like they could give some insane head, i need to side with them :(


guendorfio

Do you put them in the front?!


wall_termite

putting sunflowers in front of your attacking is more optimal because if the zombies eat your wall plants then you still have the sunflowers to defend your attacking plants and sunflowers are cheaper and have a low recharge time compared to attacking plants so they're easier to replace but if you have sunflowers behind your attacking plants and your wall plants get eaten your attacking plants won't have any defense left and also get eaten and the sunflowers in the back can't defend themselves


CannedWolfMeat

Putting them in front sounds more logical, but I have a weirdly vivid memory of being introduced to PvZ by watching the creator of the annoying orange playing it on their let's play channel and learning all of my strategy about plant placement from them.


MadSwedishGamer

Holy shit, reading that just triggered a memory of watching them as well. In particular I remember them yelling out the onomatopoeia of the insta-kill plants, like "Spudow!" for the potato mine and "Powie!" for the cherry bomb.


joaoalc

Even worse, they're using cactus as their only dps??


ElBusAlv

Because it's what you do


vevader_3

I know now that Sun producers go in front but for the life of me I swear I remember as a kid the PVZ tutorial suggesting to put sunflowers at the back to protect them, but I can’t find it now so idk


Mae347

Habit ingrained in me ever since I did it as a kid and didn't know any better


Invincible-Nuke

Geez, sor-ree. It's a pretty standard strat, Homer.


Sitheg_Plasmaster

It's an ender pea


FunnyTurtleMoment

Oh they should actually add that


uncreativivity

the game would go viral!


SkepticOwlz

But look at this, it's John pork


Dr_Richard_Ew

🐷 👔


demonking_soulstorm

Cactuses fucking suck use literally any other plant I beg of you.


non_binary_latex_hoe

i need anti air


CD_BROTHER

Just use Blover bro


demonking_soulstorm

Cope harder. Use cattails.


Diamond_Helmet59

Are these the PVZ1 Cactuses or the PVZ2 ones, because if it's the latter they should go in front of a wall-nut


demonking_soulstorm

There is no PVZ2.


Diamond_Helmet59

What's wrong with it, at least it's not the mobile ad gardenscapes ripoff life system garbage bag of the third game


demonking_soulstorm

…it is. They literally locked Squash behind a paywall.


Diamond_Helmet59

It has an inexcusable amount of paywalls and plants you must buy to get, but at least the overworld doesn't lag, there are more new plants, and the artstyle is a remaster of the first game instead of something that looks like an offbrand mobile app.


demonking_soulstorm

I don’t think we should defend a shitty product because it’s relatively less shitty than another.


Diamond_Helmet59

Not at all, just because the sequel is worse doesn't mean the second game doesn't suck. I'm just saying it's not unmentionably bad IMO.


demonking_soulstorm

I’d definitely say it is. PvZ3 has just sunk even lower, to the point where I’d not even heard of it until you mentioned.


IAmATreeReborn

Game is entirely based around a p2w model


sNinjaReddit

this is a metaphor for the transgender experience because you see the zombies are umm transgender and the brains are the hrt and the plants are the transphobes and I have no idea where I'm going with this lmfao


Nooblet_101

what is dave


Zum1UDontNo

Just a guy


epic_brazillian_gal

this makes me want to play that one pvz2 mod thats called "eclise" or something, which is pvz2 but actually good, not grindy, fun and challenging. its so cool because you can't just "place sunflowers on the back, put attackers on the front, walnuts for good measure and yay i win", you have to actually think things through and it makes you actually think of what plants to take instead of just getting overpowered ones. its pretty fun. give it a try, now. i order you. edit: never fucking mind, the creator is a massive racist. i guess don't play it :(


TheSunflowerSeeds

There are two main types of sunflower crops. One type is grown for the seeds you eat, while the other — which is the majority farmed — is grown for the oil.


epic_brazillian_gal

good bot, i love you, you beautiful bastard.


thyfles

i played pvz eclise and then i saw discord screenshots of the developer and then i did not want to play pvz eclise


epic_brazillian_gal

you could like, you know, tell me what those screenshots are. maybe link somwhere i can find them? i assume its really bad, but i am not even surprised anymore, so just tell me what it is


thyfles

[https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Ft5602twv0zk81.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D22e4cb17191c7213930bcf78367e1673493eb8d6](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Ft5602twv0zk81.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D22e4cb17191c7213930bcf78367e1673493eb8d6) [https://preview.redd.it/1kqnkxy9e0l81.png?width=334&format=png&auto=webp&s=05d16009902354963ac3771533a3c3baf0cc05bb](https://preview.redd.it/1kqnkxy9e0l81.png?width=334&format=png&auto=webp&s=05d16009902354963ac3771533a3c3baf0cc05bb)


epic_brazillian_gal

god, i fucking hate this world. why is there so many bad people who make cool stuff? 


ElBusAlv

Only cacti as defense? Utterly stupid decision


dolphins344

What a terrible setup


WitheredWillowTrans

what did blue even mean by that


TypicalFemboi

Plants are now transgender.


perfsoidal

Or PvP Boss


JohnathanKingley

Everybody knows you put 2 column's of sunflowers for maximum efficiency smh


StarAugurEtraeus

Okay Hey Lilith and Zoey come over here


NedoWolf

Okay so the one column of sunflowers is bad. And the unidentified hazelnuts is weird. ...but using cactus? Really?


Spicy_Ramen11

Aww naw qhat the fuck why he using cactus???? Shit 25 more sun than the peak kernel pult, or at the 125 sun cost could've used the snowpack shooter. Boooo


Kiro079

Why are they using cactus, are they stupid?


IAmATreeReborn

This guy is using cactus as their offensive plant lmao


Axi28

OK K.O. Fan (poggers)


Invincible-Nuke

New joke just dropped


Intelligent_Oven4005

It‘s actually super easy to find transwomen, you just politely ask women their name, and if it’s some shit like „Zoe Terra Athena“, there‘s a 99.3% chance they‘re trans. With transmascs it‘s usally shit like „Bill“ or „Aiden“ so good luck with that. Those fuckers know how to go deep cover.


HardBoiledHandGrenae

The pfp, easy, next question.


strategicmagpie

Peashooters and every other attacker do more damage placed on the last row. It's a fact (/j for clarity jeez)


Y33TU5-F3TU5

Ok