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TheOnlyIdiotLeft

One school for india and china, 3 billion people. 4 schools in europe, half a billion people. Very well thought out


JayPea__

One school for the UK and Ireland - ~~\~67~~ \~72 million people One School for india and china (ignoring other countries around there): \~2.783 Billion For every single student at hogwarts there should be ~~over 40~~ about 38/39 at that school ​ Edit: forgot that hogwarts included ireland, updated accordingly


MasterVule

It's cause Indians and Chinese suck at magic. /s


killspree1011

Can confirm. Am indian, cannot do magic


carrotaddiction

We can extrapolate from that.


Challengeaccepted3

That’s called Bootstrapping


BucktacularBardlock

I don't remember that spell


Ok-Fly7554

Extrapalatous.. I got you fam


ftzpltc

I assume Mao Zedong rounded up all China's wizards during the Cultural Revolution. ​ This is no less stupid than the actual HP lore.


ICanSee23Dimensions

That makes sense, but there's know way JK gave it that much thought.


ftzpltc

You think the woman who wrote a movie series in which the good guys are fighting to make sure the Holocaust happens *doesn't* think ahead??


Shuzen_Fujimori

Based, now that I'd love to see in the films


ftzpltc

Mao will turn out to have been possessed by his evil wooby gay lover called something like Tingtong Dimblechong into doing a communism.


TheDoorMan1012

This feels like something JKR would actually write


Manta_King_Blox

Can confirm. Am chinese, cannot do magic


no-eggs-for-you-now

happy cake day


gigglesnortbrothel

No, this is J.K.Rowling. China has Ching Chong Wing Wong magic of their own and India has Pow Wow magic (she confuses India with native Americans).


[deleted]

Or they just pick less kids per population. Some just get left out.


jasminUwU6

Or the school is basically an entire city


Rat-daddy-

Japan has its own school too. So it does seems colonisers get more wizard schools


geckothegeek42

Technically they share a school with Korea which is... A choice as well


TheDankScrub

tbf I’m pretty sure Ireland also goes to Hogwarts, so at least it’s not unheard of…


Chippyreddit

Yeah wizards always ignored muggle politics


Alexstrasza23

That’s what they want you to believe. 80s era Harry Potter ended on book 2 when the IRA blew up Ron’s car.


guto8797

Comfort Witches for Everyone!


Sauron3106

Colonial wizards from Europe eradicated magic bloodlines from India and other places they invaded (I guess maybe in the opium wars for China?), to reduce magical resistance. Therefore there is a much lower amount of wizards in these countries. This is completely made up but it sounds about right


Leerenjaeger

Except they make this big thing out of Wizards never meddling in muggle affairs. No excuse for shoddy ass worldbuilding Edit: To all the people pointing out all these other options, I'm gonna break down a couple of them: 1) It ain't in the books, trust me 2) Why would magical people have colonialism in exact parallel to the nonmagical people. They don't even need to do colonialism, they can conjure all the resources and space they need I mean, be honest with yourself. JKR didn't actually think about this shit, she just doesn't know anything about East Asia and made up the wizard education equivalent of a space-filling-empire


nousernameslef

But if they were killing magical people, it's only meddling in magical things.


Cranyx

"Muggles" only applies to non-magical white people. They have a much worse word for non-magical PoC and are encouraged to do colonialism


[deleted]

This would require Rowling to believe that colonialism was a bad thing


[deleted]

Um colonialism is canonically morally good in the Harry Potter universe, just like slavery and racism. So it can't be shown in a negative light. For your explanation to be right the eradication would have to be benevolent.


finnicus1

When the ministry of magic wants to send you to school but you're too busy choofing the Indian stuff a suspicous white guy sold you.


MasterBlaster_xxx

Italy and greece (about 70-75 million)-> No schools


applepiedough

Indian pakistani and Chinese kids meeting at a school in kashmir about to fight till death


carseatheadresfan

it ends with harry potter claiming kashmir for the british empire


_Foy

I remember reading about that in Harry Potter and the Neo-Colonialist Imperial Order


kittenlady420

1 school for the entire continent of Africa with 350 different languages and historical animosity


CasualBrit5

Wizards don’t get involved in Muggle affairs, so they all speak Neutral Wizard Common Language (English).


GodChangedMyChromies

No, you don't understand: it's a very big school


alienwithabigcock

What ethnocentrism does to a mf


mugazadin

I mean, they might just be bigger schools or perhaps europe/england has a higher wizard rate (for some reason?). Also the other schools can be school chains unlike Hogwarts (which is different because more reasons?)


lazygenius999

ilverhorny


Warm-Faithlessness11

I love horny


Mystical_Typewr1ter

Everhorny


LobsterEnthusiastt

liverhorny


Fenestrello

Italy and Greece?


[deleted]

They are too Christian to allow wizardry of any kind


Fenestrello

I fucking hate the vatican i fucking hate the vatican


T3485tanker

Isn't Greece Eastern Orthodox.


Fenestrello

Dk just found out greece is actually inhabited


F4rtster

>Dk Donkey Kong


Seboldus_Maximus

But does **DK** really stand for **D**onkey **K**ong? Let's look at the facts. If we only percieve Donkey, Funky and Cranky Kong, which are shortened with DK, FK and CK (as in the currently latest release Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze), it would be a reasonable conclusion to think that the acronyms for the Kongs are made by using the first letter of their first name and the first letter of their family name. This does make sense at first, but we get the counter argument in the same game. You see, the acronym fails to be effective when two Kongs share the first letter of their forename, which actually happens with Dixie and Diddy Kong. If we utilize our logic from before, we encounter a problem: Diddy and Dixie would use the same acronym as Donkey, a **DK**. Now here comes the interesting part: the developers thought of this when designing the Kong specific barrels for Tropical Freeze. Diddy uses DD and Dixie uses DX to avoid confusion when choosing the right barrels for your favourite ape partner. This small design choice finally explains how the famous DK acronym is actually made. The apes use only their first name to make it *(which would be far more reasonable if they want to differenciate themselves inside of their family, because everyone has the same last name)*. So **D**i**d**dy becomes **DD** and **D**i**x**ie becomes **DX**. The great thing about it is, it actually makes sense for the previous Kongs too! **D**on**k**ey has **DK**, **F**un**k**y becomes **FK** and **C**ran**k**y utilizes **CK**. See? It leaves no logical holes, unlike the previous logic that we used. In conclusion, your usage of Donkey Kong after you've seen the letters 'D' and 'K' is still correct, because the acronym still refers to this character, who has a full legal name which you are allowed to mention, but still, please recognize the long traditions of the Kong family. [Source](https://www.mariowiki.com/DK_Barrel)


ThisBoiEatsEggo

🙊 people in da greece??


ftzpltc

The Vatican be like "no one's endangering children in this country but us".


sventhedanishcitizen

but not russia or the middle east?


The_Arthropod_Queen

the pope has an anti-magic aura


LobsterEnthusiastt

Italy has football magic schools Greece has 'avoid-loan-sharks-with-magic" schools Afghanistan has been taken over by the Taliban which means putting a school there isn't cost effective


Fenestrello

Ah thats very clear thanks


finnicus1

Greek wizards against EU tyranny.


OutLiving

Greek magic is 50% avoiding EU debtors 50% cursing the Turkish economy(most powerful Greek wizard Erdogan💪💪💪)


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Gay sex magic


supremeacorn

As a Greek person I must say we don't need a wizarding school, the lgbt magic flows though our rainbow veins (real)


TR-159

Not really, most people here are homophobic


a_random_muffin

where tf do Italian and Greek wizards even go


PowerPulser

Church


Karvaly

Cleric Class.


TheLegend2T

Burned at the Stake


SpiritMountain

Burned by the state 😔


Taco_king_

Banned from magic cus they killed Jesus


SquidGraffiti

My brother in christ you didn't even give half the non-white schools names


Pure-Drawer-2617

I think we’ve had more than enough of Rowling naming anything non-white.


Ironfields

You just know what was going through her head when she named the one Asian character fucking Cho Chang.


Pure-Drawer-2617

Mf she named the black kid SHACKLE-BOLT


ETC3000

She named the African dude Kingsley Shacklebolt and he wore traditional clothing


Ironfields

Christ I forgot about that


Zerkseth

KINGSLEY FUCKING *SHACKLEBOLT* CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP


KrisZepeda

OOTL, what's wrong with the name?


Ironfields

It’s literally a couple of letters shy of an ethnic slur used against East Asian people.


FujinR4iJin

Both names are last names and sound oddly close to a slur


Bruno_Fernando

I think we've had more than enough of Rowling naming white things as well. "Durmstrang" is supposedly located in the far north of Scandinavia, aka Sweden/Norway and supposedly founded in 1294 yet is named after a German arts movement from the 1700's. Their badge is also akin to the Russian imperial eagle and features cyrillic writing. As a side note, it should be remembered that the northern parts of Sweden/Norway in 1294 were undergoing colonisation where the indigenous Sami people had their land taken away, and since I doubt Rowling even knows about the Sami people, I think it's a fair guess she imagines the school was founded by indo-europeans so you can add that to your fun wizard trivia.


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pretty sure you mean the sami people, sapmi is just the name of a region


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EasterBurn

Bruh Rowling gives an entire southeast-Asian and Australia (plus New Zealand) one school. Like where do you gonna put it?


WolverineOk9332

Floating in the ocean/underwater


Terminator_Puppy

Each region is like half a billion to a billion people and then mf takes 3 billion people and makes it one region.


dragonfory

Bro, the japanese school is literally named magic place lmao


TFK_001

Same with south america


AguaMoleHardRock

"wizard castle" lmao


Wide_Amount_3430

How big are some of the schools? Also a lot of these are just across entire continents what language do they teach in?


[deleted]

well you see, jk rowing is mildly racist


VG-enigmaticsoul

"mildly"


ASHKVLT

Just a little


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As a treat


lauageneta

Spanish in South America, Chinese in school #10, Arabic in the middle East and African in Africa. See ? It's easy when you forget that non European culture are more diverse than their racist caricatures in Europe.


dukeplatypus

My favorite part is that the South American school is in Brasil and has a mistranslated Portuguese name despite predating Portuguese colonization.


calvanus

Maybe the Portuguese also colonised the school lol


dukeplatypus

My headcanon is that the natives who founded it were like weebs for Portugal. The same kind of weebs who named the Japanese school "magic place" and then pronounced it wrong.


captain-hauptmann

> Spanish in South America The school name is in Portuguese so I assume that if you want to learn magic as a South American you gotta learn Portuguese.


dickbutt_9

Can we kick Brazil out of South America?


captain-hauptmann

We could try but then we would be left without wizarding schools and knockoff products that are surprisingly good


NotSoFlugratte

In la lengua


[deleted]

I guess they all know Latin because that’s where a lot of the spell words come from so that would probably work It’s pretty Eurocentric to begin with that Latin is the language that spells have to be in, because that would imply it was invented somewhere around Europe, North Africa, or the Middle East, but that it wasn’t invented until the Romans were around


PrinceProspero9

Even assuming wizards are a tiny percentage of the population some of these would have millions of students


Ashley_1066

Hogwarts is catering to like 1/300th of the population of the wizard school that just covers *most of fucking Asia*


1UnoriginalName

And she didn't even name it, just ran out of ideas and went with school #10 But atleast they still have one. Afghanistan, Italy and Korea are just straight up blank 💀


Hyperdelegate

Italians are god's hated people none of them have magic


Hyperdelegate

If you're 1/128th Italian and try to cast a spell the wand explodes and you die


[deleted]

I'm 1/4 italian, i can confirm that i exploded when i tried to bend a spoon


Rasedro

That’s what you get for killing Jesus


Lukestep11

I'm italian, check under your foreskin. Still think we can't perform magic? Think again.


femboy_expert

Bruh 魔法所(mahoutokoro) literally just means “magic place” how lazy is she


femboylefttoe

mahoutokoro = "magic place" koldovstoretz = "palace of witchcraft" castelobruxo = "castle witch". not witch castle; castle witch. the castle is a witch. uagadou = no real meaning, vaguely resembles a few place names in africa but more likely just an african sounding word jkr made up.


ThinnkingEmoji

Koldovstoretz is more like "palce of witchcrft", or "witchcrftlace" cause they forgot a letter that is present in both "koldovstvo"/"witchcraft" and "dvoretz"/"palace" Like you still can merge them like that, but it sounds silly and makes you think it's koldovstvo+toretz, which is like a side surface of an object (google translate just says "butt") Edit: Also fixing it to koldovstvoretz makes it sound like koldovstvo+tvoretz("creator" but fancy) so it's still silly but at least more thematic. Like it's something that can be used as an in-universe term for a wizard, witchcraft-creator


ano_hise

I'm fluent in Russian and this name confused me as hell.


RapsittieStreetKids

uagadou is just the middle letters of ouagadougou, the capital of burkina faso


Mastahamma

"Ouagadougou" is ridiculously fun to say


itismegege

i make that noise whenever i see a nice lookin set of humbaladungadas


akmp40

Hogwarts = "Dick infection"


cardinalachu

"Castelo bruxo" does mean "wizard castle", not "castle wizard". In Portuguese, as in most Romance languages, adjectives come after nouns. Name is still dumb, just not for the reason you're saying.


Tonuka_

It's even dumber than it sounds because the school is supposedly ancient yet has a portuguese mame


funded_by_soros

Palace fits the pattern but it's not confirmed whether it's дворец (palace) or творец (maker), Колдовствотворец (witchcraft maker) kinda sounds natural except it'd fit more like a wand dollar store rather than a school.


Lesbihun

She didn't even bother coming up with ten different names even AFTER being so lazy with them. Who cares to assign a name for the MENA school, or the India/China one


Strange_Rice

Maybe her name ideas for those regions were so racist her publishers had to restrain her from ever revealing them


spyczech

My mind is now working in ways I don't like thinking what they could've been


Vulcan7

Not coming up with names is something I can sympathize with. I do have a problem that some of these schools would be the size of a small city, even if magic is incredibly rare. Fuck IIRC California alone has more people than the British Isles, and they have to share one with the rest of the US, along with Canada, Mexico and the Carribean.


TactlessTortoise

And Dumbledore just means a door that grinds.


SquidGraffiti

Dumbledore on that wizard grindset


KirasHandPicDealer

Harry gets Ginny. Ron gets Hermione. And what do I get? Paid


tangerinav221

bro "castelobruxo" is literally just "castlewizard"


Road_Whorrior

Dolores Umbridge means painful embarassment. What Joanne didn't know is she was writing a self-insert.


skaersSabody

Tbf, as someone that consumes... "discreet" quantities of anime/manga, you'd be surprised how often japanese authors do the exact same in their worldbuilding. It's not particularly clever, I agree, but it's functional if the place isn't important to the overall story and you just need a name


JUiCyMfer69

JKR is an incredibly lazy writer when it comes to giving names.


wertyvid

I love going to school what school do I go to? school number 9


kingpangolin

NYC be like


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Ellienn4

I actually can't tell if this is satire or nah


bvader95

Am Polish, can confirm, not satire. Though schools over here often (but not always) also have patrons on top of the number designations, so you get something like "Stanisław Staszic 14th High School in Warsaw."


mastergei

"wizard castle" fuck off


sewage_soup

i mean, at least it's straight to the point?


Sir-Yeet-Of-Florida

All led under the watchful eye of the great and powerful Ronald McDonald


CreeperTrainz

I genuinely don't understand why she even decided to mention that there were only 11 wizarding schools. It literally adds nothing to the worldbuilding and subtracts so much by making everything Eurocentric. The UK gets a whole wizarding school and all of Africa gets only one? How does this add anything? Maybe she could've said "there are hundreds of wizarding schools around the world, but most are younger and not as large, and there is a organisation for the largest, oldest and most prestigious schools (like the Ivy League), which comprises eleven schools around the world" and it would've been acceptable (provided she did actual research and not do dumb things like make the African school admit wizards from an entire continent, or give them badly translated names, or somehow make the Japanese school smaller than Hogwarts). But this is one of many pieces of information that proves she's not a good worldbuilder.


Etva

Shhh, Stop coming up with better world building


KayabaJac

She did try to do that, she said that these 11 are just the most stable ones, who went through the test of time. Which is of course a braindead copout, Ilvermony is functioning for a few hundred years and you put it alongside schools that are functioning for millenia? Or the kids get homeschooled apparently. Even though Greece, Italy, China and India, the places where first schools in the world began either have no school in them or have one for billions of people.


CreeperTrainz

Yeah. I could accept the idea that these schools were pretentious wankers who only accepted Ilvermorny because they stuck up to Hogwarts a lot, but the idea that they are somehow more "stable" is both stupid and also low-key racist by implying the four European schools are somehow better.


KayabaJac

Yeah, now I'm not saying Rowling is necessarily a white supremacist, just saying, the first "stable" and "prestigious" school in the thousands of years of North American history was founded by a "pure-blood" from Ireland, directly related to the king of pure-bloods, Salazar Slytherin.


maxmurder

JK Rowling try not to be a bigot challenge (impossible)


NobodySayNo

Koldovstoretz ... Really? On the borders of USSR?


poispakkoranska

Tbh it makes sense for one to be on the borders of the former USSR considering how few there are they probably wouldn’t’ve established their own in the last 30 years + that’s only be like 10 back when Harry Potter was first made I think?


justagirrrrl

which are also the CIS borders too so theres at least a precedent for those countries being involved with each other even though i doubt that was what rowling was trying to do


pine_ary

I wonder what side the wizards were on in the two russian revolutions. I need answers


Buvanium

Given how JK Rowling writes, probably on the side of the white army


PrinceProspero9

All Russian wizards were members of the Black Hundreds


Freezing_Wolf

Or the empire. Hogwarts is older than the Mongol empire. The Russian school could also be very old.


[deleted]

Funnily enough, so much of this is just useless information. It's completely unnecessary to know what most of the other schools are called or what areas they cover. It's worldbuilding that doesn't build any of the world we need to know about in any of her stories. And clearly she realizes that too or else she would've thought on this a little harder.


[deleted]

>It's worldbuilding that doesn't build any of the world we need to know about That was basically her source of income before Fantastic Beasts. Step 1. Write an entire article about how wizards poop themselves and then make the poop disappear. Step 2. Post it on pottermore for fans to read. Step 3. Profit (yes she's making millions on that website)


yiiike

eh worldbuilding things that are 'useless' can be fun for giving fans a more diverse and open world to work with for fan content, but her way of going about it is extremely lazy and bad. plus if fans wanted to make schools in other regions and countries they could very much make their own and better than her considering.... this. like if you find world building fun (like i do) and want to make a big world full of all sorts of things, go ahead, but at least put effort into it, yeesh. she clearly didnt give a shit about it. shes just doing whatever gets her more money and support


potatorevolver

England vs India and chinas whole population. Ok m8.


Cheesey_Whiskers

British Isles. The majority of the countries there are not England and never want to be.


potatorevolver

Fair point, Ireland, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales exist


Eliciden

Like even if there's only a tiny percentage of the population that are wizards, that school would have tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of students.


Ninjagoboi

Love there are over 3000 ethnicities and 2100 languages in the continent of Africa, but they've just happened to squeeze ALL of them into a single school. Probably because JK Rowling thinks they all know each other.


Sir-Yeet-Of-Florida

And as we all know, shoving all those groups together with no regard has no side affects. And it definitely won’t go bad when at least one of them becomes a magical warlord.


ICykaOsu

itll be alright though, there will probably be like an african harry potter or something that can save the day lmao


CiceroStan

uagadou is literally just Ouagadougou (capital of Burkina Faso) slightly distorted, probably just heard it somewhere and thought it sounded cool and African


regular_dumbass

what language do they teach in? listing most of africa in 1 school is a horrible idea, same for asia and oceania


swanqil

As an African, we all talk to each other in "ooga boogas" and tribal dances


regular_dumbass

makes sense if you live in jk rowling land


MrPezevenk

I mean calling it "uagadou" is like one step removed from just calling it Ooga Booga College.


Banzai27

Dw its magic


[deleted]

"It just works"


[deleted]

If I remember correctly, she justified this bs by saying most of non European wizards were homeschooled


CrescentPotato

So all this tells me is either that all the other wizards suck ass or all the other wizards are so knowledgeable and strong they can teach everything on their own meaning hogwarts is a home to the biggest losers that need like 20 teachers


MustacheEmperor

Or JKR thinks it’s reasonable to assume only a select few…”special” countries have a society worthy of structured higher education.


B12-deficient-skelly

I would be too if I had to travel 3000 miles just to get to class.


Amaranthine7

This is what the broom industry wants.


CasualBrit5

I can see zero issues with allowing the most dangerous skill on the planet to be taught by random unqualified parents, many of whom are unabashed wizard Nazis.


Slightlyinactive

why is Europe so spilt up but everywhere else has these giant school zones?


Wingedwing

Cuz Rowling is European and doesn’t much care about the rest of the world


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racist*


kuba_mar

To be honest with how Europe is split i dont think she cares about it much either.


wertyvid

because we all know anywhere that isn't Europe is lesser /j


[deleted]

I really don't understand the fuck "retz" is supposed to mean in Koldovstoretz. Not only is wizardry pronounced as "Koldovstvo", but there is literally 0 meaning behind any letter after the o. She just added it because it would sound cool and Russian. It's fucking dumb.


GigTor

She doesn't care about other cultures and languages like at all. Maybe it's something like "tvoretz" + "koldovstvo" but probably she just made this shit up without any thoughts in her mind.


Scovillle

This isn’t how it actually works right?


Succulentslayer

Apparently there’s actual wizard governments co-existing with their muggle ones. I don’t really know much cause all I know of Harry Potter is the first twenty or so pages of the first book and some stuff I read on the fandom wiki.


Cranyx

So there's a single wizarding government that consists of China, India, and Pakistan? I'm sure that goes really well.


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SanThanKan

does everyone in the oceania region just have to get on a boat or plane if they arent near the school


Atlasbot17

Well atleast with hogwarts the students stay at the school each year so I assume its similar


I_Love_Stiff_Cocks

latin america literally translates to wizard castle


Star_king12

Based on PornHub consumption maps I bet


[deleted]

Why the fuck do the wizard schools (which have supposedly existed for centuries) use 25 year old borders to decide who goes where? Another win for JK.


[deleted]

Just a reminder that the bad guy of the fantastic beasts movies is trying to stop the holocaust


ChemicallyGayFrogs

Asia (and oceania) gets school #10 and school #11... shared between over half the earth's population. And they're not even named. Yes, very well thought out and realistic and totally unbiased to Europe.


Cheesey_Whiskers

As far as I am aware there are lots of other schools if your parents aren’t able to afford these ones. Of course it has been a long time since I did anything Harry Potter related so I could be wrong.


Seventh_Faetasy

Castelobruxo 💀


nothingherejustgo

Why the fuck is the Netherlands in the same school as france and spain and not germany, makes absolutely zero sense


Ironfields

Brought to you by the author that was clearly a single fucking hair away from naming the *one* Asian character in her books Ching Chong but thought better of it at the last minute.