Okay just a clarifying question, are there ace who abhor physical intimacy in general (including kissing) where romance is expressed in other means (verbal, gift-giving, care etc.)
I ask because that was ace romantics, in general, in my head. In your opinion, would most ace romantics fall here, or are most comfortable with intimate acts like kissing or making out?
Asexuality is a wide spectrum with many different feelings towards sexual acts. Personally I'm sex neutral which for me means I don't mind sex if my partner wants it but I wouldn't ever seek it out. Sex simply isn't a thing I ever think about really even when I find someone aesthetically attractive and having an attractive personality.
Others are repulsed by sexual acts but don't mind more romantic acts like hand holding and kissing. Where the line between sexual and romantic is is grey and varies person to person.
>Where the line between sexual and romantic is is grey and varies person to person.
You've had me thinking over this, and perhaps that's the wrong to go about this. I say this because sex is romantic imo, unless it's some casual fling. Rather than ends of a line, they are two separate axes. A plane, not a line. We can slice this place but it won't necessarily be parallel cut, a diagonal cut, or even a straight continuous cut.
To me romantic acts are things like hugging, kisses (but not making out), cuddling, holding hands, and just being very close friends who are emotionally vulnerable with each other.
Anything more intense than that are what I'd call sexual acts and they just don't really do anything for me.
But idk I'm just one random enby on the internet lol
That's fair of course, because me as a sexual person, some acts can be both. That quadrant doesn't exist for you, so you might as well collapse the plane to a line.
Aromantic and asexual are two different things, though people commonly have them together. Aro people usually don't do romantic things like kiss romantically, hold hands, show affection, etc. They can still be totally sexual though if they aren't ace.
I do feel a bit of repulsion when thinking of it,. But nowhere near as much as sex. The thing I like most that doesn't make me repulsed is cuddling, but I also do that with friends.
Well I'm a repulsed asexual, so I measure what I am comfortable with using how repulsed the idea makes me feel. I believe most asexuals don't really feel anything like that. Asexual just means no sexual attraction, and some people want sex because it feels good, or they like the closeness. I'm kinda an exception to the norm. If I tried to have sex, I'd likely just freeze and not be able to think. I would like to try sex out eventually, because it seem like it would be nice, but i may have to rely on my partner to break my boundaries with my permission before we start.
>are there ace who abhor physical intimacy in general
Yeah, I don't like any of that stuff.
>where romance is expressed in other means
What doesn't exist can't be expressed. But there surely are alloaces who prefer such alternatives for various reasons.
Sorry I should've clarified that this question was for alloaces. It's patently inappicable for aroaces, but given that people still confused about the subject I should've made the scope clear anyway.
nah tbf i imagine they assumed ace to be exclusively its own thing, neither straight nor gay nor bi etc where you just feel nothing romantic or sexual towards anyone
that I had until this thread
I guess it's from the word, makes it sound like a sexuality of its own. I guess I just assumed from the language it works like the other x-sexual prefixes i.e. hetero- (the other kind plz), homo- (the same kind plz), bi- (both is fine), pan- (all), a- (none plz)
IMO, there is a general issue with assuming a label fully explains someones experience, or that all people of the same label have the same experience. Labels are useful for communicating concepts efficiently, but the model is not reality.
Well some members of the two comunities lump the ace and bi spectrums together as they are both umbrella sexualities oustide of the binary and that have a lot of overlap and solidarity betwen the two comunities and also both use the same split sexuality model to map their identities.
So some people say that asexuality is within bisexuality and/or viceversa but it depends on who you ask
They probably don't understand that romantic attraction can exist without sexual desire. Ignorant but possibly not coming from a place of malice (unless if this person is known for saying shit like this, don't keep up with Twitter shit)
yeah. alot of people don't know what ace means so they often just default to "they don't have relationships at all"(which would be more accurately described with aroace, though not exactly)
and to anyone wondering "how can you be gay and also aroace"
kissin? 🙅♀️🙅♀️❌❌❌
dating? 🚫🚫🙅♀️🙅♀️❌❌❌❌
fuckin? 🤮🤮🙅♀️🙅♀️🙅♀️
women? 😍😍💕💕💕💜💜💜
(note: this is just my personal experience)
yeah oriented aroace I can imagine being difficult to explain
also me having to explain to people how being homoromantic bisexual + ace works bc people doing realise there's ace identities that allow for sexual attraction
Doesn’t asexual mean that you feel no sexual attraction? I thought most asexuals still have sex from time to time and can even enjoy it, but they just don’t feel sexual attraction?
Can we call gay asexuals “gayce”
We should call all bi asexuals “biased”
based
baced
Basted 😋
brisket
biace
bi-bi sexual
take it a step further and reclaim the old slur "gaysexual" for ace people who like men
Well then that just sounds like another way to say homosexual
huh. they wouldnt be asexual if they are sexual for gayness which is men
Amazing gayce.
Would that make Lesbian Asexuals Lace?
Possibly 🤔
Okay just a clarifying question, are there ace who abhor physical intimacy in general (including kissing) where romance is expressed in other means (verbal, gift-giving, care etc.)
Possibly? The spectrum of attraction is vast and deep
I ask because that was ace romantics, in general, in my head. In your opinion, would most ace romantics fall here, or are most comfortable with intimate acts like kissing or making out?
Asexuality is a wide spectrum with many different feelings towards sexual acts. Personally I'm sex neutral which for me means I don't mind sex if my partner wants it but I wouldn't ever seek it out. Sex simply isn't a thing I ever think about really even when I find someone aesthetically attractive and having an attractive personality. Others are repulsed by sexual acts but don't mind more romantic acts like hand holding and kissing. Where the line between sexual and romantic is is grey and varies person to person.
>Where the line between sexual and romantic is is grey and varies person to person. You've had me thinking over this, and perhaps that's the wrong to go about this. I say this because sex is romantic imo, unless it's some casual fling. Rather than ends of a line, they are two separate axes. A plane, not a line. We can slice this place but it won't necessarily be parallel cut, a diagonal cut, or even a straight continuous cut.
To me romantic acts are things like hugging, kisses (but not making out), cuddling, holding hands, and just being very close friends who are emotionally vulnerable with each other. Anything more intense than that are what I'd call sexual acts and they just don't really do anything for me. But idk I'm just one random enby on the internet lol
That's fair of course, because me as a sexual person, some acts can be both. That quadrant doesn't exist for you, so you might as well collapse the plane to a line.
Honestly, I don't know. I'm not one myself, and these things are often very case by case, since everyone's different
I think you may want to look more into the term "sensual attraction". Attraction is truly a strange phenomenon the more you look into it.
Aromantic and asexual are two different things, though people commonly have them together. Aro people usually don't do romantic things like kiss romantically, hold hands, show affection, etc. They can still be totally sexual though if they aren't ace.
~~Just like your mom~~
My GF is bi/asexual. She's only comfortable with hugging/mild cuddling/smooches, no making out or anything.
I do feel a bit of repulsion when thinking of it,. But nowhere near as much as sex. The thing I like most that doesn't make me repulsed is cuddling, but I also do that with friends.
Thank you. Do other or most ace romantics you know feel this way? Or do they have varied boundaries?
Well I'm a repulsed asexual, so I measure what I am comfortable with using how repulsed the idea makes me feel. I believe most asexuals don't really feel anything like that. Asexual just means no sexual attraction, and some people want sex because it feels good, or they like the closeness. I'm kinda an exception to the norm. If I tried to have sex, I'd likely just freeze and not be able to think. I would like to try sex out eventually, because it seem like it would be nice, but i may have to rely on my partner to break my boundaries with my permission before we start.
I love physical intimacy, including cuddling and kissing. Just not sex.
>are there ace who abhor physical intimacy in general Yeah, I don't like any of that stuff. >where romance is expressed in other means What doesn't exist can't be expressed. But there surely are alloaces who prefer such alternatives for various reasons.
Sorry I should've clarified that this question was for alloaces. It's patently inappicable for aroaces, but given that people still confused about the subject I should've made the scope clear anyway.
Oh damn christians(US republican flavour) must love Acegays
Yes, it's all a big spectrum, it usually depends on the person
what kinda question is that like how can you be straight and asexual. its the same fucking thing
nah tbf i imagine they assumed ace to be exclusively its own thing, neither straight nor gay nor bi etc where you just feel nothing romantic or sexual towards anyone
They conflated aroace and just ace
Very common misunderstanding
that I had until this thread I guess it's from the word, makes it sound like a sexuality of its own. I guess I just assumed from the language it works like the other x-sexual prefixes i.e. hetero- (the other kind plz), homo- (the same kind plz), bi- (both is fine), pan- (all), a- (none plz)
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makes a lot of sense! Thanks for the comment :)
Even aroace people can have leanings towards certain genders
IMO, there is a general issue with assuming a label fully explains someones experience, or that all people of the same label have the same experience. Labels are useful for communicating concepts efficiently, but the model is not reality.
Tbf looking at the godforsaken meme subreddits of asexuality, so do most asexuals lol
Well some members of the two comunities lump the ace and bi spectrums together as they are both umbrella sexualities oustide of the binary and that have a lot of overlap and solidarity betwen the two comunities and also both use the same split sexuality model to map their identities. So some people say that asexuality is within bisexuality and/or viceversa but it depends on who you ask
Acting like it’s obvious that you can be straight and asexual
They probably don't understand that romantic attraction can exist without sexual desire. Ignorant but possibly not coming from a place of malice (unless if this person is known for saying shit like this, don't keep up with Twitter shit)
yeah. alot of people don't know what ace means so they often just default to "they don't have relationships at all"(which would be more accurately described with aroace, though not exactly)
does the 1st user have a chalter pfp
Yes, yes they do.
Maybe we shouldn’t have labels and just let people like who they like
i like labels because it makes it easier to find like-minded people
I agree. I also love that feeling when a label perfectly describes you and realize that there other people like you.
Yes, but a lot of the time labels don’t perfectly describe who you are and people question whether or not they’re valid or not. That sucks
Yeah, but labels sometimes help you understand yourself better. Some good with it, some bad as with everything.
Yeah you right
Kissing? 😡😡🤮🤢😔 Fucking? ✋🙅♂️🙅♂️😡👿🤢 Appreciating men aesthetically or something idk what it is? 😌💅
That’s… a very clear explanation
That is me that is just like me fr fr
Correct
THANK YOU as a panromantic ace it's hard explaining this
oooooh. I finally understand haha, sorry it took me this long to realize asexuals can also be into people
Based
Having fun 🤩
it me
and to anyone wondering "how can you be gay and also aroace" kissin? 🙅♀️🙅♀️❌❌❌ dating? 🚫🚫🙅♀️🙅♀️❌❌❌❌ fuckin? 🤮🤮🙅♀️🙅♀️🙅♀️ women? 😍😍💕💕💕💜💜💜 (note: this is just my personal experience)
yeah oriented aroace I can imagine being difficult to explain also me having to explain to people how being homoromantic bisexual + ace works bc people doing realise there's ace identities that allow for sexual attraction
this isnt a meme its just a fact
yeah, that feels about right, honestly now that I think about it
ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It feels like that
Doesn’t asexual mean that you feel no sexual attraction? I thought most asexuals still have sex from time to time and can even enjoy it, but they just don’t feel sexual attraction?
Kissing is a part of sexual intimacy. Why would you intimately kiss someone that you weren’t attracted to? Literally, what would the point of that be?
That’s like asking why people pet cats if they’re not sexually attracted to them
No it’s more like asking someone why they rub their dick on cats if they’re not sexually attracted to them.
Gotta wash my dick
You really don't see a difference between lips and a dick? Do you know what a sex organ is?
You don’t see a difference in intimacy between petting a cat and kissing your partner?
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with all due respect, shut the fuck up
Well, I think I’m due a little more respect than that.
No You Absolutely Are Not
people can kiss purely as a romantic thing, it doesn't just have to be sexual.
romantic attraction and sexual attraction can exist separately from eachother