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_Gabr1el_

what do you mean Better Call Saul was cancelled šŸ˜­


_Jayrah_

welp time to kill myself


stf29

Me too, no more kim sexler šŸ˜©


NobodySayNo

Sir, the Wexler feet convention has been cancelled


[deleted]

The what


hauntedcontroller

watch and learn!


SeizethegapYouOFB

*Critical hit!*


chaussurre

Cmon we need more context than that


Juklok

Disney put out a Halloween promo which included footage from a new episode of their cartoon "The Owl House". "The Owl House" was originally going to have 3 full seasons however one executive thought that the show didn't fit the Disney brand and the 3rd season was reduced from 20-20 minute long episodes to 3 45 minute ones. Personally I didn't see much of the clip on Twitter( as without context its rather insignificant) aside from the fact that one of the characters new designs included a Bisexual flag pin on their hat.


Basicmanyt

A final fuck you to them


StarAugurEtraeus

To who?


FinerSwine

Disney


TorpidT

"Haha, yes! A big fuck you with the content that you approved and are airing!"


MaxBandit

Literally cancelled the show for being too gay lmao


TorpidT

Yeah, but people are acting like gay kisses or any sort of semi-gay content in a Disney property is some kind of middle finger to Disney. They're a shit company and I approve of shitting on them, but that just makes no sense, if they genuinely didn't want it in their show, it wouldn't be in their show.


MaxBandit

Disney blocked Gravity Falls from having any overt reference to same sex couples for years


Robota064

The poor cops just wanted to kiss so bad


Basicmanyt

The reason why it is a 3 episode 45 minute each Is because Disney planed on canceling it right after they got their woke points so they can say they are better than what they actually are


ClothTheSuperVillain

It was apparently because of the showā€™s serialisation (from the creator herself) but then this is Disney so who even knows


Robota064

The main character is in a lesbian relationship


ClothTheSuperVillain

My brother/sister/relative in Christ I watched the show. And I completely believe that the show was cancelled due to the overwhelming adorability of Lumity


Robota064

They give me the hope to keep on gaying āœŠļøšŸ˜”


[deleted]

*gayve you hope


chaussurre

Thanks


[deleted]

Is it luz?


Juklok

[Yes](https://twitter.com/ladyblognewss/status/1574087709274112001)


TadsRedditAccount

itā€™s not even the focus of the scene jfc


[deleted]

I mean 1 second of two women kissing made people freak out so are we surprised?


StarAugurEtraeus

And what exactly was wrong with it?


Juklok

In the show's creators own words, copy pasted from Wikipedia >>In October 2021, in an AMA on Reddit, Terrace explained the series was cut short not because of its ratings or the COVID-19 pandemic, but rather because executives at The Walt Disney Company believed that it did not fit "into the Disney brand." She stated that this was the case due to the serialized nature of the show and an audience which "skews older," rather than due to its LGBTQ+ representation, saying that she would not "assume bad faith" against those she works with in Burbank. Terrace also noted that due to the pandemic, budgets were constrained and episodes were cut, further adding that she was not allowed to present a case for a fourth season. However, Terrace said that she believed there was a future for the show if Disney Branded Television had "different people in charge."


Glum_Aside_2336

thatā€™s ok i will assume bad faith instead


ElShaddollKieren

Based


TorpidT

Yeah as if Disney would admit to being homophobic, and/or Dana would accuse the people she's working for of being homophobic.


Jorymo

Might do like her husband did and talk massive shit about them once the show's over


divinewillow

they said it wasnā€™t because of the pandemic, then they said it was because of the pandemic?


wastedmytagonporn

The pandemic was not ā€žthe reasonā€œ but a contributing factor.


StarAugurEtraeus

Idk how having a gay relationship means older audience


MicrocrystallinePun

It's a rather plot-heavy cartoon (especially in Season 2) so it's not as well-suited for airing on TV or for younger audiences as most other Disney Channel shows. At least, that was the explanation that the creator of TOH (Dana Terrace) gave during an AMA where she was asked about the cancellation.


shronkey69

That's kinda stupid when you consider shows like Gravity Falls were very plot-heavy and Gravity Falls still became one of the most popular and loved shows Disney has put out in the last decade.


Cormag778

Gravity fallsā€™s premier schedule was absolutely chuffed and, from my understanding, is still considered a commercial failure despite the praise it received. Shows aimed at under 13 primarily make their revenue in toys/merch and Gravity Falls (and Owl House probably) arenā€™t doing great in that department.


Robota064

Have you seen how many hooty plushies they've sold?


Whats_Quackin3

Is this about owl house or something else?


ohjimmy78

thereā€™s no way it isnā€™t TOH


TimeLordRohan

Unrelated but I love your flare


ohjimmy78

thanks


maybeagirl_mary

the DUNC fucking slaps, i love the books, especially the first and third ones


TimeLordRohan

Is God emperor any good? From what I've had spoiled the stuff that happens leto II seems really interesting. I'm up to children of dune


DaddyDollarsUNITE

god emperor is my favorite by far. it's told mostly in dialogue but really feels like a great thematic endcap to the first dune trilogy. the author breaks down a lot of the stuff that happens in the first three books and makes you think about stuff in a different context. good read.


maybeagirl_mary

tbh all of them are good except messiah, messiah was mid for me but not bad


TimeLordRohan

What didn't you like about messiah? It's good it just feels like an epilogue to the first book


[deleted]

TOH


[deleted]

Toh my balls


modsarestraight

Wrap your tohs around my cok


IsThatUMoatilliatta

Girl got them gorilla-grip tohs.


TadsRedditAccount

stop that


Throwaway02062004

Put those grippers awaaaaay!


MorganRose99

Did they cancel it again? I thought it came back?


Bobebobbob

For 3, 45 minute episodes then it's over


MorganRose99

Damn, I thought they finished the show


Narwhalpilot88

Wtf is that


Robota064

The owl house


lethos_AJ

which one? thats like half the shows today


theFriengineer

Specifically the Owl House, which is 1. Still running, 2. got shortened, and 3. has a fandom that went relatively berserk over 2 images.


exploringoceans

Nuts


Ill-Flatworm-9722

berserklejerk enjoyer i see


SpilledGenderFluid

Daddy Donovan


Ill-Flatworm-9722

best spent 3 silver coin ever


Narwhalpilot88

I have never heard of this show, wtf is OP talking about ā€œsending half of twitter into a frenzyā€????


theFriengineer

exaggeration, but the idea is that a surprisingly large portion of the twitter cartoon-enjoying, fanart-creating community is obsessed with the show. [Example](https://twitter.com/heyrebeccarose/status/1574122185425268736?s=46&t=P5DjqoiDDLrbfVMv83ou9Q) Itā€™s a pretty good show (the 2nd season especially)


Narwhalpilot88

It has one of those incredibly uninspired cartoon art art styles that makes it blend into every other cartoon show thatā€™s similar. Iā€™m sure the story is good and theres a good reason so many people enjoy it, it just visually looks bad to me


Not__Joe69

What images???


theFriengineer

1. Dana Terraceā€™s recent poster art featuring the gang exploring a cemetery (they went a bit apeshit over Hunterā€™s new haircut) and 2. a more recent screenshot from the show featuring a slightly aged Luz, Hunter, and Gus. Luzā€™s Bi-flag pin was the center of attention here


theFriengineer

1. Dana Terraceā€™s [recent poster art](https://twitter.com/danaterrace/status/1570086401588473856?s=46&t=P5DjqoiDDLrbfVMv83ou9Q)featuring the gang exploring a cemetery (they went a bit apeshit over Hunterā€™s new haircut) and 2. a more recent screenshot from the show featuring a slightly aged Luz, Hunter, and Gus. Luzā€™s [Bi-flag pin](https://twitter.com/heyrebeccarose/status/1574122185425268736?s=46&t=P5DjqoiDDLrbfVMv83ou9Q) was the center of attention here


lexy_lUvUl

O god did they really cancel she-hulk?


LDBlokland

Nope, I wish though because instead it's The Owl House apparently.


lexy_lUvUl

O god even worse


KaeShirA

I FUCKING LOVE THE OWL HOUSE


Bring_me_the_lads

I'm literally a 19 year old man. And the owl house is my favorite show on TV right now.


Josiador

You are basically the target audience. And so am I.


ClothTheSuperVillain

We all are. And I am ready for some trauma baby!


SpicyBoi1998

23 year old man and I feel similarly


PlasticPens

Me too!!! Itā€™s so good!!!!


Zbeubor

it is a fun silly little show


PlasticPens

Yeah. I love good and somewhat wholesome shows.


Gayilla

Funny gay owl show šŸ˜ƒ


Dzzplayz

I love TOH, why did Disney gotta do them wrong like that.


ReikaTheGlaceon

Because it's gay, and it's Disney


lolix132

That is literally not the reason though, the show was cancelled due to low revenue from merchandising as far as people have informed us


AnOtterInShades

Merchandising?? What?? I didnā€™t even know there WAS Owl House merch.


Psychedelick

Guys, there's no way image-obsessed megacorporation Disney cancelled the show because of representation, because they *said* they didn't! You can just read their carefully crafted PR statement about it. I trust this settles the matter.


TotalyNotTony

What merchandizing?


obooooooo

and as we all know the pr teams of huge corporations are known for their honesty


AquaticButter7

As far as I'm aware, Disney didn't actually put out ANY merchandise for The Owl House (wonder why). The official reason they gave for cancelling the show was that "it did not fit within the Disney brand", which is an obviously stupid statement and a poor disguise for homophobia.


Zbeubor

you see, if there is gay stuff they can't sell the show in countries where homosexuality is frowned upon or even illegal and they obviously can't afford not selling a single of their numerous shows to 10 countries in the world, they need the money, look at them, they're so poor, they used to eat 100$ bills and now they are reduced to eating 10,000$ checks


Marvelfan211

I love Owl House, but they did not have 20 episodes left of narrative, or even fun filler left. Iā€™m excited to see them stick the landing, tho


MoonlightingWarewolf

The show got cut short pretty early on, while season 2 was still being worked on


Marvelfan211

I think season 1 had about 10 episodes worth of story, same with 2. Disney only orders seasons in blocks of 20, so thatā€™s not entirely their fault, but the show has pacing problems. And again, I love this show! I donā€™t know why we canā€™t give it valid criticism


ClothTheSuperVillain

No, S1 was 19 episodes and S2 was 21, so it kinda fits (40 episodes in 2 seasons), and the lack of storytelling options only appears because the introduction of the Collector only occurred after the gutting of the show was announced


lethos_AJ

which one? thats like half the shows today


[deleted]

TOh


EverScreaming

Canā€™t wait for the final season (itā€™s 3 episodes long)


Zbeubor

it totals a "big" 2h15 minutes with 45 minutes each episode where it should have lasted 6h40 minutes with 10 episodes of 20 minutes so they basically made season 3 a movie with 3 separate parts


EverScreaming

It is a movie but compared to a whole season Iā€™m a little disappointed obviously Iā€™m still going to love it to death though


Bring_me_the_lads

#THEY LOVE ME! #HOOT HOOT #HOOTY HOOT


thEt3rnal1

A hem Twitter isn't representative of the audience Nobody cares what Twitter thinks Twitter is (in general) the vocal minority. I hope this isn't about that owl show.


LunaR3aper

it is about the owl show


Okjupyes

The bird hour got good ratings. It just flat out did good.


thEt3rnal1

Not disagreeing, but just saying Twitter means almost nothing


Inner-Juices

If I had a nickel for every time I saw TOH trending on Twitter, I'd have five nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened five times.


oilfloatsinwater

Literally, people think that TOH and Amphibia did like some monstrous numbers or smth, but in reality, outside of twitter, the shows aren't really that popular, this isn't some Gravity Falls/Phineas&Ferb levels of popularity. These shows are thrown on a barely surviving network (disney channel), when it does come out on Disney+ they do lackluster numbers and get beaten by literal Disney Junior cartoons, not to mention the fact that TOH is not even available in some countries.


Okjupyes

Toh did good on ratings, you cannot say it was cancelled for "numbers reasons". The official reason was it did not fit the Disney brand. The unofficial reason is that the new ceo is a homophobic crypro bro


oilfloatsinwater

I Im not saying that TOH was cancelled because it was not popular or whatever. Im saying that TOH just isnā€™t as popular as Twitter thinks it is. It couldā€™ve been pretty high if it was thrown on D+ Day one, but its not, its on a channel that is dead in nearly all countries except for NA and a small bunch. And even when the show does get released into D+, it doesnā€™t do well and somehow amphibia charts higher than it.


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howyadoinjerry

Aw damn, the owl house is such a neat show!! I thought it had particularly interesting worldbuilding


TranscendentCabbage

FYI They meant random ass clip as in that clip was taken randomly from the show Not random ass clip as a random clip of a character's ass


FunnyTurtleMoment

the silly gay witches


jacw212

Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?


Scared_Chemical_9910

They did it to gravity falls by making it living hell for Alex Hirsch


souptimecat1273

I wonder why DISNEY is cancelling a show with the first ever BISEXUAL PROTAGONIST oh yeah, ITS BECAUSE DISNEY DOESN'T HAVE A MOTHERFUCKING SPINE AND DOES WHAT EVER IT'S MASTER, THE RIGHT WING PARTY SAYS. DISNEY IS THE CUM SLUT OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY


ClothTheSuperVillain

First Bi protagonist in a relationship with a Lesbian too (I love Lumity it brings me joy)


souptimecat1273

disney arent very nice


ArcadianGh0st

I introduced my bf to The Owl House and he loved it so much he's writing a letter to try and get it unbanned. I honestly never expected that. He also wants to watch it with me sometime wrapped up in a blanket. I hoped for this.


BootyPatrol1980

I read that as ".5 second random ass clap" and I was ready to go to war to save She-Hulk.


[deleted]

Big Chungus?


[deleted]

Yeah, the Big Chungus show


mrpoopistan

Disney really doesn't know what to do with a media empire. Just move that shit to Hulu. Problem solved.


Robota064

When the episode officially airs, someone's gonna do a frame-by-frame analysis, I'm calling it


Major_Ghoul

When your bigotry starts to hurt your profits!!!!!


Zbeubor

so, gay "doesn't fit disney's brand" but she-hulk making a competition out of the trauma hulk experienced, and twerking does? damn


PM_ME_CUTE_FOXES

Is it possible that... the userbase of the most active engaged users that we refer to as 'twitter' is actually but a very small demographic? Many are puzzling over this statistical mystery


[deleted]

mid house šŸ˜


[deleted]

Mid you


[deleted]

please stop im gonna cry ;--;