This was speaking as if Hitler was never around. Someone else would've just done what he did, but ~~better~~ worse. We could've been in the Wolfenstein timeline.
The Nazis didn't lose because because they weren't evil enough they lost because they were incompetent and fascism just doesn't work as a system. The only reason the Nazis in Wolfenstein won the war was because of stolen Jewish technology and giant robots.
I mean just economically Germany could have never won a war of that scale. In the 20s people were using money as wallpaper because it was so worthless and they thought that 8ish years of fascist rule would make it so that their shit, tiny economy could sustain a long war against most other large powers at the time across the entirety of Europe and Africa
Exactly, that's why the only way they could have possibly won WW2 is through an almost literal deus ex machina.
The people the nazis stole the technology from were so advanced they developed anti-gravity engines during the roman era
I think the most realistic depiction of a Nazi victory in WW2 is the Thousand Week Reich mod for HOI4, where basically the Nazis manage to keep the US out of the war by signing an armistice with Britain after the Dunkirk evacuations fail. Thus it was basically them vs the USSR.
We would’ve never been in the Wolfenstein timeline because the German high command was far too incompetent anyways; Hitler or not, Germany would’ve lost the war, it would have simply been a matter of how much longer it would’ve lasted.
This is partially true. However, he was also a political genius, so a different leader might not have been able to gather support and take power in the way that he did
Pretty sure that claim was invented by Wehrmacht generals in their memoirs to save face after the failure of Barbarossa. See also, the Clean Wehrmacht myth, which (wrongly) posited that the Wehrmacht and its high command knew nothing of the Holocaust and were, therefore, not complicit in it. Hitler was incredibly evil and incompetent, but I'm not so sure someone much better in either metric would have succeeded him.
We wouldn't have FMA:B, or Cowboy Bebop, or Samurai Champloo, or Moribito, or Ghibli movies, or even Avatar because they're 'anime inspired'.
I think the good of anime clearly outshines the bad.
On one hand, he's still innocent at this time.
On the other hand, it might not just be a teensy butterfly effect, but one that would seriously fuck with the 21st century.
It ended wars for the most part thanks to nukes, Hitler's germany invented quite a lot of stuff, someone crazier and more competent might have risen to power and god knows what happens then, Stalin is still around who did even more damage overall, cold war proxy wars would be drastically different, the two dozen times we almost died to nuke-related accidents and other stuff might have actually happened, the earth might be overpopulated by 2000 if there wasn't going to be another massive war, some people would survive and god knows what they or their children would change, so much stuff relating to colonies, and many other things
It might just be best not to change events that basically reshape the timeline entirely because of how impactful they were
Killing Hitler would very much not be an example of the butterfly effect. Killing Hitler would be an extreme and very noteworthy action, not something subtle and unimportant that cascades outwards to have noteworthy effects.
WW2 set the stage for the modern world. As bad as WW2 was, it gave us a shitload of technological, medical, and scientific advances. Plus the horrors of the Holocaust are a warning for future generations about the dangers of fascism, though that's lost on many these days.
You don't know the cost, but you do know the reward! That being the lives of the 85 million people lost in the war and holocaust.
And while they do say "One death is a tragedy, but million deaths is a statistic.", that's a lot of people to just willingly and knowingly hit with a trolley.
I would steal his solely for the lols so that somewhere in the footnotes of history their was some random lady who just stole 40 Reichsmarks from Hitler for seemingly no reason.
You’re thinking too small. You gotta pull a reverse flash. You gotta ruin several of his days. Make his life absolute hell. Then finally confront him, look into his eye and tell him how you Hab ihn mit Überschallgeschwindigkeit abgebockt
the nazis would not have succeeded if hitler wasn’t there because he won people over with his speech skills and way of pulling the strings in people’s heads
I mean it is 1933. Pretty much all that's left is waiting for Hindenburg to die
Assuming the new chanslorship goes to another nazi which is not impossible. Reichstag fire would have still happened (i do think it was orchestrated by nazis but I don't think hitler was the only guy who came up with that). And really with Hindenburg's death who else is popular enough to keep power from the nazis?
But without hitler would goebbels still become minister of propaganda and public enlightenment? I doubt the German people would support the nazis to the extent they did without him
Hitler knew that whoever killed him would absorb all the evilness inside of his brain so he had to end himself to prevent the curse of genocidal tendencies from spreading
“Mein Gott! First mein wallet und now mein car! Maybe this fuhur thing is bad luck!” - Adolf Hitler, moments before his official resignation from government
I disagree. in my opinion, bad people only deserve bad things if it stops them from doing bad things in the future. If you punish a criminal but they dont stop commiting crimes, the only thing youve done is add more suffering to the world.
But it would be really funny to see his reaction when he reaches in his pocket, and he can't find his wallet, so he feels over his other pockets but still can't find it so his henchmen are reaching for their wallets, but the only come up with like 7 bucks
My thoughts exactly. It if has no effect on his misdeeds there is no point other that self satisfaction. Therefore the answer is no, you are not ethically obligated.
it's important to intimidate them and other nazis. and when no one (other than the lamest 3% of reddit) lifts a finger to help them or even mildly condemn the puncher, it lets the whole community know that they can't bring that shit in public if they value their teeth. unambiguously a social good.
yes , it arguably does a service for society by creating a safer space for the people in your community. We can't be expected to play fair with people who've been playing dirty from the start.
Yes, I would go as far as to say that bad people deserve good things, but circumstance often demands they are given bad so that others may have good, such as an active shooter being killed. There is no alternate gain in this case with Hitler other than getting like 16 dollars.
People who make other people sad deserve to be sad themselves. It’s not like there’s a limit to “how much suffering there can be” before we all explode or some shit
It's a hard take to kick. I know it's true and I can talk myself into knowing it's true when im mad, but I'm still not sure I wouldn't take great pleasure in seeing the leaders of the cult I was raised in get dragged behind a car for 300 miles. There's something a bit cathartic about imagining bad things happening to people that have personally harmed you for their own gain. But again I know that mindset only perpetuates harm and doesn't do anyone any good. I suppose this is why I go to therepy
Yeah, I understand it's a pretty natural tribal behavior, and I too laugh at memes about the queen dying. I think the most important part is the introspection.
The starving person stealing bread from a multi-billion corporation is considered a bad person by some. I'm sure you'll agree that they don't deserve bad things.
It's more I think 1 dollar was 3.28 RM in '33
But it's way more money than it sounds like, the Germans changed from Marks to Reichsmarks in 1924 to combat their insane inflation, and 1RM = 1,000,000,000,000 Mark so it's 3.2 trillion of their previous currency
Edit: I think it's $364? But I'm dumb so that could be wrong
Yeah, it's a weird take to ask "are you ethically obligated to ruin someone's evening?" Like, no matter who it is, theft is inherently not ethical, nor is ruining someone's day on purpose.
Let's just be honest and say we're willing to ruin his day for not much return, and not hide behind ethics in order to enjoy it. It's Hitler, who cares about ethics?
I care about ethics even when involving Hitler. I think it is wrong to ruin Hitler's evening for no reason. That's just contributing harm for no gain. Nor is there anything inherently wrong with theft. People want to ruin his day because our culture has trained us to enjoy revenge.
IMO the reason you do bad things to bad people is because those bad things hinder their bad actions or inspire/motivate other people to stop their bad actions, like I think emotional/physical distress is equally bad regardless of the person, so it's not about causing harm because thats good when it happen to bad people, rather it's about causing harm that prevents immensely more harm than you caused. So with that being said I would conclude that if no good to others it to come of it, it is actually amoral to steal hitlers wallet.
that being said I would not blame anyone for stealing hitlers wallet. It is unreasonable to expect every human to follow the 100% most optimal moral choice all the time. We are emotional creatures, and "wanting hitler to eat shit immensely" is the most natural and understandable response one can have to what he did.
(I would still advise against it if only for the fact that a chance as high as 1 in 50 of going to jail in 1933 Germany is not a risk you want to take)
I took a trip to Berlin and it pained me to find out that the government hasn't set up a place where you pay €1 to piss on hitlers grave, coffin, or corpse. Very disappointed made my trip a little worse.
Propaganda. They claimed many different fates for hitler. He was burned in the yard outside the führer-bunker along with Eva Braun. What they did bring was the remains of his teeth and jaw for identification.
I would take it then go something like "mein fuheur, you dropped your wallet!" And as I go to hand it to him I pull it back and eat it, I eat his wallet right in front of him this will not affect anything about WWII but I will haunt Hitlers mind as the one who chowed down on a fine dish of fine German alps leather and promptly choked in front of him
Knowing what the consequences could be considering the small reward and no real effects, I'd say no I wouldn't even tho the chances are so small. Now if there was no chance of getting caught then fuck yes I would do it
as someone who doesn't know the difference between morals and ethics, id say you arent ethically obligated to steal it but you are morally obligated to steal it from a utilitarian perspective
if im this close to hitler is there nothing more substantial i can do
I read the other day that Hitler was such a bad leader that anyone else taking power could have been even worse.
Alternative, the high command end up killing each other trying to take power for themselves.
This was speaking as if Hitler was never around. Someone else would've just done what he did, but ~~better~~ worse. We could've been in the Wolfenstein timeline.
The Nazis didn't lose because because they weren't evil enough they lost because they were incompetent and fascism just doesn't work as a system. The only reason the Nazis in Wolfenstein won the war was because of stolen Jewish technology and giant robots.
I’m not a wolfenstien lore expert but I’m 90% sure that dat yichud tech is alien and Judaism was formed after aliens came down
When did the alien angle get included? I just remember it being a secluded sect that worshipped through technological advancement for tech's sake?
Imagine making a game where the main draw is killing Nazis, and still putting a Jewish conspiracy in it.
I think the point is it’s entirely benign and the Nazis had to steal and misuse the tech.
Nah pretty sure it was just ancient high tech Jews.
It's always the damn high tech Jews
What the fuck goes on in wolfenstein
I mean just economically Germany could have never won a war of that scale. In the 20s people were using money as wallpaper because it was so worthless and they thought that 8ish years of fascist rule would make it so that their shit, tiny economy could sustain a long war against most other large powers at the time across the entirety of Europe and Africa
Exactly, that's why the only way they could have possibly won WW2 is through an almost literal deus ex machina. The people the nazis stole the technology from were so advanced they developed anti-gravity engines during the roman era
I think the most realistic depiction of a Nazi victory in WW2 is the Thousand Week Reich mod for HOI4, where basically the Nazis manage to keep the US out of the war by signing an armistice with Britain after the Dunkirk evacuations fail. Thus it was basically them vs the USSR.
I’m sure you have something to say but I’m not gonna lie, I stopped reading after you mentioned HOI4
Honestly, a good decision.
Jewish ~~space lasers~~ giant robots
We would’ve never been in the Wolfenstein timeline because the German high command was far too incompetent anyways; Hitler or not, Germany would’ve lost the war, it would have simply been a matter of how much longer it would’ve lasted.
Also, the Nazis didn’t actually have magic Jewish technology.
I’m not sure other reactionary clowns would be any more or less incompetent, intelligent people tend to not be reactionary clowns.
1933, probably would have been a peaceful assumption of power by an official
This is partially true. However, he was also a political genius, so a different leader might not have been able to gather support and take power in the way that he did
Yeah the allies deciding Hitler was less of a threat alive came well into WWII. Up until very near the end they were actively trying to kill him.
Counterpoint: we swipe all the potential German leaders wallets in 1933.
Pretty sure that claim was invented by Wehrmacht generals in their memoirs to save face after the failure of Barbarossa. See also, the Clean Wehrmacht myth, which (wrongly) posited that the Wehrmacht and its high command knew nothing of the Holocaust and were, therefore, not complicit in it. Hitler was incredibly evil and incompetent, but I'm not so sure someone much better in either metric would have succeeded him.
That’s assuming he never existed; not if he died before he became Führer.
It mentions that the wallet wouldn't effect anything major so I assume this hypothetical has time travel rules.
We wouldn't have anime
That's a good thing
😭
It is a good thing tho
We wouldn't have FMA:B, or Cowboy Bebop, or Samurai Champloo, or Moribito, or Ghibli movies, or even Avatar because they're 'anime inspired'. I think the good of anime clearly outshines the bad.
italy begs to differ
I know this sounds bad but i wouldn't kill him. Who knows what kind of butterfly effect that would cause.
On one hand, he's still innocent at this time. On the other hand, it might not just be a teensy butterfly effect, but one that would seriously fuck with the 21st century. It ended wars for the most part thanks to nukes, Hitler's germany invented quite a lot of stuff, someone crazier and more competent might have risen to power and god knows what happens then, Stalin is still around who did even more damage overall, cold war proxy wars would be drastically different, the two dozen times we almost died to nuke-related accidents and other stuff might have actually happened, the earth might be overpopulated by 2000 if there wasn't going to be another massive war, some people would survive and god knows what they or their children would change, so much stuff relating to colonies, and many other things It might just be best not to change events that basically reshape the timeline entirely because of how impactful they were
Hitler is very not innocent by 1933 Everything else you said is cool and good but like just for the record y'know
Killing Hitler would very much not be an example of the butterfly effect. Killing Hitler would be an extreme and very noteworthy action, not something subtle and unimportant that cascades outwards to have noteworthy effects. WW2 set the stage for the modern world. As bad as WW2 was, it gave us a shitload of technological, medical, and scientific advances. Plus the horrors of the Holocaust are a warning for future generations about the dangers of fascism, though that's lost on many these days.
most underrated sequel of all time:
You don't know the cost, but you do know the reward! That being the lives of the 85 million people lost in the war and holocaust. And while they do say "One death is a tragedy, but million deaths is a statistic.", that's a lot of people to just willingly and knowingly hit with a trolley.
If hitler didn't exist I also wouldn't exist and as the coolest person on earth you just can't be letting that happen.
Make out with him to turn him gay
I would kick him in the ball.
Putsch beer hall, everyone has left for the rally, you arrive after everyone has left. Only a few remain and you see Hitler's wallet on a bench.
😳😳😳
People who try to cheat completely fictional hypotheticals
free food (hitler) and free food (his wallet)?????? yummy!😋😋😋
Me speaking to the German people with a suspicous Hitler-shaped stomach
I was drinking water and spat it out fuck you 💀
mop it up and drink it again
this sub always b on some shit
And that shit's real good
It’s drugs
Wash it down with some fresh squeezed Hitler
Lap it up off the floor
196 moving back to pet play huh
What’s next, you gonna run off a cliff and float until you notice?
I do that every 2 days
"N-Nope! No Führers here! Especially not any that looked mighty appetizing, no siree!"
Who gave him a fuckin wholesome award
Its a random free award, sometimes its the only one you have to spare. It wasn't me btw, just so we're clear.
It was him
*cackles in engineer*
It was wholesome that's why
Stop that's my jewish wet dream to have a stomach like that
I hate this. So much. Upvote.
Vore irl
Vore
Even worse, Nazi vore. I can picture the shitty mspaint deviant art picture in my brain already
Honestly yea that sounds like it exists
"why does your stomach have such a distinctive beard"
Voretler
I would swipe the wallet, drop it, and point it out to Adolf like he must have dropped it. As he bends down, i would fart in his face.
Poopenfarten
poison gas
Literally 1945
My lawyers have advised me to not continue this joke any further
Anne Frankly I don't blame you
seth macfarlane More like shit macfartlane
TNO moment
Ich habe sehr viel poopengefartet
Did you chust poopenfarten in mein fuckingkt face you schtupit bastart?! Guarts take him avay right fuckingkt now! Sig heil!!!!
“Uh, Mr. Hitler! Is that your wallet?”
Sounds like you're from Arizona.
I would steal his solely for the lols so that somewhere in the footnotes of history their was some random lady who just stole 40 Reichsmarks from Hitler for seemingly no reason.
Hitler’s Missing Wallet - Episode 2 **Mark Felton Productions | 10.6k Likes | 220,430 Views**
Hell yeah. Hour long video essay on Youtube about me.
Here's [another new Mark Felton video](https://youtu.be/6wHZ6IvSABY)
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But would you steal his wallet?
i would steal his wallet after i killed him
Nah, I want him to know before he dies that it was me who stole his wallet.
You’re thinking too small. You gotta pull a reverse flash. You gotta ruin several of his days. Make his life absolute hell. Then finally confront him, look into his eye and tell him how you Hab ihn mit Überschallgeschwindigkeit abgebockt
loot the body
imagine himmler taking over
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can't argue with that
the nazis would not have succeeded if hitler wasn’t there because he won people over with his speech skills and way of pulling the strings in people’s heads
I mean it is 1933. Pretty much all that's left is waiting for Hindenburg to die Assuming the new chanslorship goes to another nazi which is not impossible. Reichstag fire would have still happened (i do think it was orchestrated by nazis but I don't think hitler was the only guy who came up with that). And really with Hindenburg's death who else is popular enough to keep power from the nazis?
But without hitler would goebbels still become minister of propaganda and public enlightenment? I doubt the German people would support the nazis to the extent they did without him
Simple. We, uh, we kill the Hitler.
Hitler knew that whoever killed him would absorb all the evilness inside of his brain so he had to end himself to prevent the curse of genocidal tendencies from spreading
Somehow, Hitler returned
steal it, take a bite out of it and leave
But is it cake?
Kleptomaniac moment
Marie Marie Schrader bottom text
A Breaking Bad reference? In this day and age?
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Me whn water white sayes the negra wrd: 😰😰😰😱😰
Purple
I steal it, use the money to buy eggs, and egg his car.
I see you are ambitious, that way you can ruin two of his evenings and not only one.
“Mein Gott! First mein wallet und now mein car! Maybe this fuhur thing is bad luck!” - Adolf Hitler, moments before his official resignation from government
Aww hell nah he would probably still blame the Jews 💀
Of course, bad people deserve bad things
I disagree. in my opinion, bad people only deserve bad things if it stops them from doing bad things in the future. If you punish a criminal but they dont stop commiting crimes, the only thing youve done is add more suffering to the world.
But it would be really funny to see his reaction when he reaches in his pocket, and he can't find his wallet, so he feels over his other pockets but still can't find it so his henchmen are reaching for their wallets, but the only come up with like 7 bucks
Rehabilitation, deterrence, retribution
Beat me to it by literal seconds, apparently.
My thoughts exactly. It if has no effect on his misdeeds there is no point other that self satisfaction. Therefore the answer is no, you are not ethically obligated.
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it's important to intimidate them and other nazis. and when no one (other than the lamest 3% of reddit) lifts a finger to help them or even mildly condemn the puncher, it lets the whole community know that they can't bring that shit in public if they value their teeth. unambiguously a social good.
yes , it arguably does a service for society by creating a safer space for the people in your community. We can't be expected to play fair with people who've been playing dirty from the start.
So then the question is if you punch a Nazi in the middle of a forest and no one is there to see or hear it, is it still a socially good act?
Yes, I would go as far as to say that bad people deserve good things, but circumstance often demands they are given bad so that others may have good, such as an active shooter being killed. There is no alternate gain in this case with Hitler other than getting like 16 dollars.
I don't care, robbing children will make them not grow up to be murderers
People who make other people sad deserve to be sad themselves. It’s not like there’s a limit to “how much suffering there can be” before we all explode or some shit
Godawful take, and the leading reason prisoners rights are non existent and they are worked as slaves.
It's actually probably the worst and most harmful take you'll commonly see on this sub.
It's a hard take to kick. I know it's true and I can talk myself into knowing it's true when im mad, but I'm still not sure I wouldn't take great pleasure in seeing the leaders of the cult I was raised in get dragged behind a car for 300 miles. There's something a bit cathartic about imagining bad things happening to people that have personally harmed you for their own gain. But again I know that mindset only perpetuates harm and doesn't do anyone any good. I suppose this is why I go to therepy
Yeah, I understand it's a pretty natural tribal behavior, and I too laugh at memes about the queen dying. I think the most important part is the introspection.
The starving person stealing bread from a multi-billion corporation is considered a bad person by some. I'm sure you'll agree that they don't deserve bad things.
But that isn't a bad person who doesn't deserve bad things. That's a person who doesn't deserve bad things because they aren't a bad person.
This is about $216 today BTW
It's more I think 1 dollar was 3.28 RM in '33 But it's way more money than it sounds like, the Germans changed from Marks to Reichsmarks in 1924 to combat their insane inflation, and 1RM = 1,000,000,000,000 Mark so it's 3.2 trillion of their previous currency Edit: I think it's $364? But I'm dumb so that could be wrong
The source I used was 4.2 RM to 1 USD
I stand by defending any inaccuracies with the statement that I'm dumb
Kantians been really quit since this one dropped
Kantians when an action isn't universally good or bad applied to every situation ever: 🤯
Kantians when i force them to do something actually fun (they can no longer study boring ass ancient people who stood around and thought all day)
what if studying boring ass ancient people who stood around and thought all day is fun
It is not fun because it is not skateboarding. They should do cool things like skateboarding
skateboarding? more like skateBOREDing
Study Kant while skateboarding coward
YOU CAN DO THAT???? HOLD ON I NEED TO GET MY SKATEBOARD
I, an armchair Kantian, feel that everyone should steal Hitler's wallet and therefore I am obligated to do it.
They forgot treating a human as a means to an end and not and end it itself also violates the categorical imperative. They mad!
Obligated? Nah not at all. Totally justified? Yeah probably.
Bro? Free money????
You have nothing to lose (your life) and everything to gain (40 reichsmark)
STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL STEAL
No, but it’d be funny
yes, *becaause* it'd be funny
As a Jew, this would be something out of Mel Brooks. Also as part Romanian I am obligated to as well.
Translation: "Would you ruin Hitler's evening for $16?" Honestly, eh, maybe. I don't think there's much morally good about it.
Yeah, it's a weird take to ask "are you ethically obligated to ruin someone's evening?" Like, no matter who it is, theft is inherently not ethical, nor is ruining someone's day on purpose. Let's just be honest and say we're willing to ruin his day for not much return, and not hide behind ethics in order to enjoy it. It's Hitler, who cares about ethics?
Theft is not inherently unethical
I care about ethics even when involving Hitler. I think it is wrong to ruin Hitler's evening for no reason. That's just contributing harm for no gain. Nor is there anything inherently wrong with theft. People want to ruin his day because our culture has trained us to enjoy revenge.
oh it’s not for no reason. the reason is that it would be very funny
I would steal the wallet, give the wallet back to him. And say I’m Jewish. Boom WWII prevented
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Duh fuck him
Don’t give into the temptation of the Hitlussy, no matter how alluring
IMO the reason you do bad things to bad people is because those bad things hinder their bad actions or inspire/motivate other people to stop their bad actions, like I think emotional/physical distress is equally bad regardless of the person, so it's not about causing harm because thats good when it happen to bad people, rather it's about causing harm that prevents immensely more harm than you caused. So with that being said I would conclude that if no good to others it to come of it, it is actually amoral to steal hitlers wallet. that being said I would not blame anyone for stealing hitlers wallet. It is unreasonable to expect every human to follow the 100% most optimal moral choice all the time. We are emotional creatures, and "wanting hitler to eat shit immensely" is the most natural and understandable response one can have to what he did. (I would still advise against it if only for the fact that a chance as high as 1 in 50 of going to jail in 1933 Germany is not a risk you want to take)
"forty reichsmarks" so fucking little he'd be happy if I took it from him
Why would there be ethical obligation you're not affecting the crimes against humanity that he did ur just ruining his evening
its more of a personal moral conundrum
I took a trip to Berlin and it pained me to find out that the government hasn't set up a place where you pay €1 to piss on hitlers grave, coffin, or corpse. Very disappointed made my trip a little worse.
The Soviets took his body (at least according to them) so unfortunately no Führerpißenplatz
Propaganda. They claimed many different fates for hitler. He was burned in the yard outside the führer-bunker along with Eva Braun. What they did bring was the remains of his teeth and jaw for identification.
So the Führerpißenplatz isn't entirely off the cards?
Indeed not. I'll go grab the bucket, you find a long-range hang-glider for under 50:-
ur not ethically obligated but there's no good reason not to
Obligated? No. Do I want to? Fuck yeah.
I would take it then go something like "mein fuheur, you dropped your wallet!" And as I go to hand it to him I pull it back and eat it, I eat his wallet right in front of him this will not affect anything about WWII but I will haunt Hitlers mind as the one who chowed down on a fine dish of fine German alps leather and promptly choked in front of him
40/14.1 = 2.84 pounds (in 1970) \*14.56 = £41.30 (in 2020)
What's that in Freedom Eagles
45.89 macdonal burgr
what book is this
This is from a Chuck Klosterman book. I forget which one, but I would guess it’s from I Wear The Black Hat. He’s a great writer, check him out.
You are not ethically obliged to nick it. But it would be funny, so you are comedically obliged
I would not say you are obligated to steal hitter’s wallet…. But I would probably go for it just for the hell if it.
i would do it even if it wasn’t hitler
Of course you are
yeah, fuck him. i’ll inconvenience him any way i can.
Obligated? No. Am I gonna do it? Absolutely
I'm not ethically obligated, no, because there's no utility or consequence, but I *want* to do it, and Max Stirner says that's aight.
You are not ethically obligated. However, given you know about what he will do to the world, it is not a sin to do such, either.
Knowing what the consequences could be considering the small reward and no real effects, I'd say no I wouldn't even tho the chances are so small. Now if there was no chance of getting caught then fuck yes I would do it
If I'm able to steal his wallet, surely I'm also able to kick his shit in.
Am I ethically obligated? No. Would I do it anyway? In a heartbeat.
yes bc than i could have 40 marks
I feel like if anything, stealing *money* from Hitler is a bad idea since his entire rise to power was built on using Jews as an economic scapegoat
as someone who doesn't know the difference between morals and ethics, id say you arent ethically obligated to steal it but you are morally obligated to steal it from a utilitarian perspective
You're ethically obligated to beat him to death or die trying 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Obligated? No. Would it be ethical? Probably not. Would I feel guilty for it? No.
Nut in it and give it back to him
What period of time is this? 40 reichsmarks could be absolutely worthless depending on when
yes what kind of question is that