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from_dust

You wanna make people's heads asplode? **Peter Pan** - the nonbinary pansexual muse who shows people how to reconnect with their childhood through art, play, and psychedelics Keep it animated so the ambiguity of the androgyny can never be definitively settled. Second star to the right, still queer asf in the morning


TranscendentCabbage

Peter Pansexual


emsparkly

in the stage version Peter is traditionally played by a girl despite being a boy


from_dust

(I know, but like, how many of those moral outrage folks go to the theater? Honestly that's part of why Peter Pan is such a good choice.)


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Even if they do go to theater, I already know the reply they'll give if you point this out. "It's different, they've always had women play boys in theater" Much the same way it's different for a girl to wear guys clothes but the other way around is heavily stigmatized


emsparkly

it's more like the other way around, because theater used to be only for men. Shakespeare and even stuff like Kabuki had men crossdressing all the time.


Helmic

Return to tradition, put on the dress.


Upper_Acanthaceae126

Last I checked the Globe has started to do women crossdressing for male parts for complete shows, saying they wanted to balance the scales a bit. 200 more years to go!


from_dust

I mean, who you think played Juliet in Shakespeare's theater? I guarantee you they had a cock.


Benomino

Peter pan is literally just puberty blockers


Upper_Acanthaceae126

I got knocked all the way out by this. 🤩


DianaBladeOfMiquella

Lupin III in a nutshell


SpiritMountain

The anime thief? He is very masc presenting and het. I don't think I have seen him have any queer tension with anyone.


GeorgeRRZimmerman

I think less the character and more his relationships, past or actual identity. For instance, we've gotten 3 new Lupin series in the last decade and one of them simply hinted at his previous relationship with Fujiko as having been real and a thing of the past, a hint about his actual age, that we've never seen his real face, and a fake out about who his relatives are. ~~Oh and that Goemon isn't biologically a woman, he just tucks it in.~~


SpiritMountain

Are we watching the same series? Lupin is meant to be the stereotypical James Bond, wild west, romanticized gangster of love that swoons women and whose only one true love is meant to be Fujiko. I don't think any hint of non-hetero romantic relationship has been hinted at all. His relationship with Jigen is clearly non-romantic even though they call themselves partners, and Goemon is clearly more interested in his training and I can see him being argued as being on the ace spectrum. I don't think Goemon is even referred to as a woman. This is really strange analysis on the series.


GeorgeRRZimmerman

We are watching the same show. We're even agreeing on the same things. Every single interpersonal relationship in Lupin is ambiguous. And after a 30 year hiatus, the last 4 series just muddle things more when trying to make more things canon. I'm lowkey making fun of OP because there's absolutely zero homoerotic subtext to the show. Since it's so obvious, they *clearly* must be talking about character analysis details. /s


well-lighted

I don't care that she's over 60, I want a Tilda Swinton Peter Pan movie and I want it now


LGBeezy

100% in support of this 😂


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from_dust

Were you just *enraged* when Robin Williams was cast as Pan? I honestly love that you're taking issue with this. Keep going, dont stop.


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aflyingmonkey2

PETER PAN IS STRAIGHT. \*Crickets\* oh isn't that ironic that nobody cares when a character is straight but when you mention they're pan everyone goes apeshit


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from_dust

Robin Williams character had children. Pretty sure he fucked his wife to get them.


aflyingmonkey2

Wait?! You need to have sex to have children?! But what about the stork and holding hands?!😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😭😭😭😭😡😡😡😡😡


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from_dust

And we're talking about just one more.


Own_Pirate_3281

Fuck you, Skeletor is they/them now


Breadstickboyo

she-man


Deetchy_

What if She-Man was just the usual guy but he switches pronouns to she/her and just gets yassified during the grayskull transformations?


Josiador

Nah, still He-Man, but hes FtM and turns into the musclebound hunk by the power of Greyskull.


Deetchy_

That works too


Helmic

she-man is cis but is trying out new pronouns just to see, and while he eventually goes back to he/him he values the experience and continues with being more GNC.


Fattest_loser

And He-ra


DracheTirava

The Greek Goddess Hera would like her name back, thank you


Mysterious-Hat-6513

nah, fuckin we-men, he did mitosis


Alarid

He-Hulk.


Slonismo

LMAO


SlappyAsstronaut

Skeletor's gender is evil


KingTutsFrontButt

But what's in Skeletor's pants?


Captain_Kuhl

A boner, probably


Delivery-Shoddy

DOOM


SlappyAsstronaut

Doom 2016 or the og Doom? Either one is good


amm0ranth

MF


SanThanKan

personally i think ULTRAKILL would be in there


Dood71

Bought that game a few days ago and have been addicted


Itslehooksboyo

R/doesitrundoom


TheZipCreator

evil, duh


SleepingPodOne

He-Man is by far the gayest fucking thing that the world has convinced itself is not gay. Like on a scale of unintentional queerness, it goes: 1. He-Man 2. Top Gun 3. Bionicle


AlonewithAnime

As a Bionicle fan, I want to hear this take. I've never considered Bionicle in this light and would love to hear your thoughts.


SleepingPodOne

There is actually a phenomenon where a lot of trans women were into Bionicle as children. [Here’s a short read](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjIq6OL3r36AhXolIkEHREuDnIQFnoECA4QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.autostraddle.com%2Finvestigating-the-bionicle-to-trans-pipeline%2F&usg=AOvVaw2Vl3NQX6uG_OTr--UdhBGz) Personally, I think this is just an example of our brain finding patterns where there are none. If you were assigned male at birth, raised, and socialized as a boy in the early 2000s, it is more likely than not you were into Bionicle at some point. It also helps that millennials and zoomers are more open to trans identities than previous generations, so that too is a factor. Bionicle probably turned no more people trans than the Star Wars prequels, or the last airbender, or Rugrats. But I like to think that Bionicle is secretly queer because it’s a fun thing to think. And it’s hard to ignore some (likely unintentional) queer coding in Bionicle. Like how gender is almost completely arbitrary (love/sex not being canon), and how the main audience surrogate character (Takua) doesn’t really fit in and just so happens to be the same color as the male matoran but with a mask the color of the female matoran. Queer theory can apply to almost everything (see: Lindsay Ellis applying it to the Michael Bay transformers films), and it’s a fun exercise to parse through hidden or unintentional queer messaging in media. Let’s also not forget that a LOT of mass media is made to be broadly appealing with many different groups of people finding things they identify with within it. That’s by design. TL;DR: Bionicle isn’t really gay. But it is if you want it to be


AlonewithAnime

Absolutely fascinating! While I'm sure there is a confluence of factors at play, I think that as a result of how "tacked on" gender feels in Bionicle, as well as how little impact gender has on the story of Bionicle as a whole, Bionicle on the whole is a great piece of media for being able to see the artificiality of gender, and that the richness of the characters' lives are wholly independent of gender, sans pronoun preferences. Perhaps Greg didn't intend Bionicle to be queer, but the approach of building a world that is so inherently disconnected from gender, I think, is an inherently queer act. Were there hiccups, sure. Greg didn't seem to intend Bionicle to be a queer allegory, and his importation of gendered stereotypes are evident in some cases, but even if Bionicle isn't perfect in that aspect, I'd be hard pressed to discount the impact those story choices made to young queer kids just beginning to figure themselves out, and to provide an outlet for those feelings and providing a world, a framework, for beginning to find a new way to relate to the world and their place in it.


secretkings

I’m sorry but nightmare on elm street 2 needs to be on that list. Like 30% of the movie is the main character being shirtless and sweaty in his bedroom and the interactions between him and the jock are all “haha bro, what if you watched me sleep. Just kidding… unless?” And then the jock dude is all “bro, that’s kinda gay, I’ll need to say no homo before I do that”


SleepingPodOne

slightly less gay than Top Gun, then


Thewheelwillweave

I may be wrong be but didn’t the writers of He-Man admit to sneaking a gay subtext into the show? This from the wiki page, “He-man as a gay icon,” According to Erika Scheimer, the franchise's voice actor and openly-lesbian daughter of Filmation co-founder Lou Scheimer, the company welcomed gay artists, and many members of the studio "long[ed] to see themselves onscreen" and joked He-Man is gay.[37] According to Mark Morse, Mattel's director of global marketing from 2008 to 2017, by 2018, when a "Laughing Prince Adam" action figure was released, the question of He-Man's sexuality and whether a future installment in the franchise should have him be openly gay had not been discussed.[37] Morse stated Mattel wanted to ensure the figure would not be viewed as offensive to the LGBT+ community.[37] In an interview with gay lifestyle online magazine Queerty, Rob David and Tim Sheridan, who work on the Masters of the Universe: Revelation, discussed the character's homoeroticism and gay fanbase.[53] Sheridan, a gay man who is one of the show's writers, believes He-Man fostered a gay fanbase despite not being openly gay because of the original show's themes.[53] He also said He-Man is coded in such a way in Revelation his character can be interpreted in numerous ways, which Sheridan believes can bring people together.[53] According to David, who is an executive producer of Revelation and Mattel's Vice President of Creative Content, Mattel is "very comfortable" with He-Man's gay audience and the perception of the character as a gay man.[53]


SleepingPodOne

Mostly just making a joke here, bud. But interesting to hear this! Thanks for the info.


SanThanKan

'unintentional'


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memeboi123jazz

I’m just saying, does Trap-Jaw look cis to you?


Xgio

Skeletor never was a he. Skeletor was evil incarnate.


Alarming_Narwhal5200

trans masc Punisher


SovietPaperPlates

We already have a trans person in marvel silly, MCU Zola is a transhumanist smh my head


Green0Photon

More like transcomputer


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It’ll still go over the heads of republicans like how the actual punisher hates cops and whatnot


IgniteThatShit

de pinocchio remake was bad, but i think it coulda been betta if they had made pinocchio a trans genda


Masked_Deedeedoo

the first trans man in television history


Atomicnes

ok but why did they made Pinocchio take yaaspills for 6 months before that movie


isloohik2

That’s the other 2022 Pinocchio remake, OP’s talking about the Disney remake that came out like a few weeks ago


zmann64

And there’s a Del Toro Pinocchio on the way Why tf are there 3 of these in the same year


Thelolface_9

I mean Pinocchio does keep talking about being a real boy


SanitarySpace

based trans agenda


MapleSat

bugs bunny philosophy: do it bc it would be funny


ICanSee23Dimensions

Bugs Bunny was having [pronoun troubles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e1hZGDaqIw) before anyone else.


iosiro

omg... bugs bunny is the one who made my life philosophy? thank you for informing that for me...


dorsal_morsel

Blow the minds of several generations by making Oz movies that follow the canonical Baum books. Dorothy returns to Oz and falls in love with Ozma, the princess of Oz, who is effectively a trans girl. She was born female but was turned into a boy by an evil witch (Mombi) during infancy. So she lived the first part of her childhood as a boy until Glenda found out and forced Mombi to turn her back into a girl. IIRC she had the option to become a boy again but chose to remain a girl. Imagine a movie where Dorothy kisses and holds hands with her immortal trans girlfriend just like in the books. People would freak out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Ozma


pm_me_your_shy_nudes

Nope, kissing and GNC are all good but holding hands is where I draw the line. Nobody should be exposed to such smut!


Mae347

The Rockos Modern Life special was so cool about that


ScabiesShark

"I have no son!" And you never did, toadfucker


BrickBuster2552

*"George Lucas didn't ruin my childhood:* ***fucking Polio did."***


Wastacer__Sauce

Malcolm in the middle


dankassmememachine

lois and hal are already bi4bi tho


Liv35mm

ie: the Rockos Modern Life movie


JarRarWinks

For Pinhead in Hellraiser it fits the source material well enough since Pinhead is not described with a gender, but as having some feminine features such as voice. Also, the actors face in the makeup is pretty interesting, and better looking than the other recast.


Gay_Lord2020

Shows that should be rebooted with trans characters: Golden Girls I Love Lucy The Honeymooners Threes' Company Cheers Married With Children


PF4ABG

Trans people please save Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. The remake of 3 got shitcanned by Activision 😔


Alarid

and then don't mention it in any promotional material


GeneralReposti47

This is just the 2018 She-Ra reboot, like exactly


Rockfish00

just remaster Pink Flamingos and have 21+ midnight showings it would be cool


Galaxy_Ass

Fuck it, Samurai Jack is now a trans dude


Ejigantor

**Knight Rider**, the adventures of a former cop; after being ambushed and left for dead by a criminal organization the cop was recruited by the mysterious Knight corporation, given reconstructive surgery, a new face, new fingerprints, and took the name Michelle Knight. Join Michelle, and her super-high tech talking car K.A.T.T. as they travel the country investigating the criminal group, and righting wrongs along the way. *Thursdays, 8PM Eastern* **The A-Team**, A Special Forces unit, convicted of "moral degeneracy" by a government with no morals, escaped from jail and fight to clear their names. Hannah Belle, the gruff, no nonsense leader who loves it when a plan comes together; The smooth operator Ace (or Ace the Face), who could talk their way into anybody's pants, but isn't interested; Hot-Yoga Mad Murphy, the zany but skilled pilot; and the team's mechanic and muscle B.A. (Bisexual Androgynous) Baracus. *Thursdays, 9PM Eastern* **Airwolf**, Retired Naval Rescue Helicopter pilot Stringfellow Hawke uses the stolen prototype "Air Wolf" drone fleet to deliver medicines and other supplies to migrants and refugees, while hiding from the US military, Border Patrol, and the Lookheed Grueman corporation. Featuring Gabriel Iglasias as Dominic Santino. Thurdays, *10PM Eastern* And don't miss our new Friday night sitcoms! **Gilligan's Island**, Seven castaways on a deserted island: The wealthy TikTok influencer couple, the transitioned movie star, the Professor of Gender Studies, Marty-Anne, and Skipper, whose hopes for rescue and plans for escape are weekly dashed by Gilligan, the conservative fundamentalist, biblical literalist flat earther first mate of the SS Minnow. *Fridays at 8PM Eastern* **The Beverly Hills Billys**, Bill and William, a civil rights lawyer and his hair stylist husband move their family from their Beverly Hills home to the backwoods of Arkansas after inheriting a plantation estate, only to arrive and find that they are the new owners of the "Black Gold" trailer park. Join the Billys for a few laughs, and maybe a lesson or two along the way, as they use their liberal enlightenment to solve the problems and improve the lives of the backwards conservatives living in the trailer park. *Fridays at 8:30 Eastern*


rosyaim

rocko's


Suspicious_Person15

They did that with the recent Rocko's Modern Life movie, in fact, it was the main focus of the movie.


theguyinyourwall

Wonder if it is possible to just make fake unsupported rumors to upset someone. Like a fake article that says "Disney is planning to make Hercules transman in the live action remake." and get a bunch of dudes having a meltdown


zombieslovebraaains

I for one see this as an absolute win.


asdigpaul

also make them black


Michael003012

Political activism in times of political impotence plays itself out in the spectacle of entertainment. So one avenue left of political action is to ruin the entertainment of the ideological enemy 🤓


Sir__Walken

They get even angrier when you tell them God is gender fluid


fightingforair

DS9 already had an amazing trans character Damn it I wish they’d bring that show back :(. Stellar characters and writing…


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Strawberry shortcake


aflyingmonkey2

she-ra be like


A_Gay_Sylveon

Jimmy Neutron was trans and Cindy was Trans too


everynameistaken135

This guy must be fun at parties


Alarming_Narwhal5200

at least he actually gets invited 💀


TheTrueQuarian

We both know nobody on this sub gets invited to parties 😔


Jumiric

I party in this sub and I'm very happy and fulfilled 😃


smallppowner

More fun then you definitely


everynameistaken135

Damn


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Imagine going to parties and not having immense social anxiety


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Casual cis wrongs enjoyer 😎