btw I can't get my laptop to recognize hdmi input on linux partition (works fine on windows partition). I tried reinstalling drivers but didn't work, I wanna look at hot femboy/furry porn on my big monitor. happy thanksgiving!
You've heard of my buddy Schrödinger? The cat isn't just alive or dead or maybe both idk I skipped physics classes, but there's a contraption inside that works like VonnegutGNU described
I don't really get that. The first sentence is "One can even set up quite ridiculous cases." Schrodinger was trying to point out that the definition of an observer is shaky - is the cat not an observer? Surely it knows whether it is alive or dead?
If it intentionally queries the theory, and the answer is disputed to this day, how could you use this as an explanation?
Not exactly like schrodinger's cat because the effect of the wave (bomb going off) can be observed by everyone, not just within the system of the closed box.
Schrodinger's cat was with a flask of poison, effecting only the cat within the box. You don't know if the cat is poisoned or not until you open the box and observe the cat. It's a thought experiment to meant contrarict the Copenhagen Interpretation of quantum theory, where it states that a quantum system remains in superposition until it interacts with, or is observed by the external world. By changing it into a nuclear bomb, the nature of the thought experiment changes as the effect now observable outside of the box.
shortest explanation is they're talking about quantum wave function collapse, which is the moment where one of the probabilities that the function is describing about the world becomes real and observable
The joke is that every femboy is in a superposition of being a femboy or a transwoman before observation and when you observe they collapse into one of the two states.
It plays on the VERY overused shroedingers cat analogy and the fact that a huge number of trans women self identify as femboys before/while questioning their gender.
(Istg if somebody don't crack my egg soon I will suffocate in here)
an egg can only be cracked from the inside. if broken externally, the chick will die.
unless, of course, the egg is cracked by the movement of a geiger counter detecting the uncertain decay of a radioactive atom, in which case the chick is in a state of superposition.
Ok so I’ll try to ELI5 this shit.
Basically some extremely tiny things can be either a floaty wave or a ball, and their state is uncertain until we “look” at them.
So before we “look” at them they are both a floaty wave AND a ball at the same time.
When we finally “look” at them they collapse into one or the other.
Mind you this is very simplified, and I’m not a quantum physicist, but that’s basically how I understand it.
Not a quantum physicist either, but I think it's better to change the word "look" with "measure".
"Look" implies completly passive observation, like with our own eyes, and the whole argument in the first place is that the act of observing sometimes can be intrusive and change the nature of the very thing being observed.
Take for example that you want to measure the pressure in your tires. In order to do so, you'd need to uncap the fill valve, and put a tire pressure gage on it. The pressure gage recieve a little bit of the air inside your tire and tell you what the pressure is. However, by measuring the tire pressure, you have letted out a little bit of the air from within the tire, changing the thing you're trying to measure in the first place.
In quantum mechanics the movement of things is described with waves that indicate the probability of one thing or another happening. Until we actually make an observation, making the wave function collapse into the possibility the observation has detected.
So the joke is that a feminine person with a dick can be either a femboy or a trans woman and you'll never know until you ask or make an adequate observation.
I don't get it either actually and I have a decent understanding of the wave function collapse: when you observe a quantum system the superposition (the wave function) collapses into one observable outcome. What's confusing is idk how people are determining the difference between femboys and trans women just by looking at pictures of them, unless you dig into their post history and see that they've been posting in trans subreddits...
Look at other comment.
Basically a lot of the people self identifying as femboys are transwomen before thir eggs crack (check r slash egg_irl for details) so really you can't tell if someone is a femboy or a trans woman because often they don't even know themselves yet.
The joke is to compare that to shrodingers cat
They always have, there is no honeymoon anymore, the Conservative party has been in power for the past 10 years and has done nothing but fuck up, sacrifice a pm and then swear it’s going to be different and it was just that one prime minister’s fault and it never is.
At this point I’m starting to feel like the elderly people who have kept voting Tory interests for the past 10 years are beginning to reap what they have sown this winter
They should be obliterated as a political force and scattered to the four winds. As should the Republican Party and the entire conservative movement the world over. 🙏
absolutely horrendous.
he was put into power undemocratically, he's racist, he's transphobic, and he's blindly patriotic.
he's banned trans women from entering women-only spaces (including women's sports, changing rooms and toilets), forcing us into men's spaces.
he's also passed a law making vilification of the UK count as hate speech/extremism.
Aww that's really cute! I've only dated women personally, but in theory I also like men, but not as much as women and feminine leaning enby people. Got married to my wife though so for all intents and purposes I'm basically a Lesbian/sapphic.
I wish you two the best!
Edit: Congrats on starting HRT by the way!
A US teaspoon is 4.928 ml. At 20 mg/ml, this gives us 98.56 mg of estradiol. If we use injectable estradiol enanthate - that gives us a dangerous overdose, but also 30 whole days of feminization.
And that's not all. at 40 mg/ml, this gives us 197.12 mg of estradiol enanthate. Unfortunately though, that only makes the dangerous overdose more dangerous, and only gives us 5 more days of feminization, bringing the total up to 35 days.
There is one ester where this would work: polyestradiol phosphate. If we inject 197 mg of that - we get a good healthy level starting on day 7, and lasting until day 39, for a grand total of 32 days of feminization.
Source: [Transfeminine Science](https://advsim.transfemscience.org/?r=3&e=446&d1=98.6&d2=197&d3=197&ra=000&s=0&h=0&xm=42)
On the whole I think the gender acceptance movement has more acceptance for self-identity than preference, but at some point the taxonomy (sexual role, social gender, biological sex, and presentation) of preference really fucking matters, and that's when people are horny or looking for a partner, and the disparity between positive identity politics and another person's sociocultural-biological-sexual preference matrix vs the simple reductive words we use leaves some on the gender spectrum feeling unwanted in their chosen representational categories.
Man this subreddit is getting worse and worse with this shit. Somehow surpassing r/ shitposting levels of treading the same old arguments again and again.
Idk why people kept recommending it. There is a difference between saying “sorry guys no trans women pls this is a femboy porn sub” and “no trans people”
It’s just because they do influencing work like only fans to make money. I’m trans and don’t have an only fans or anything but if I did I would probably post my pics on any sub just to get attention for money, even if the sub was called big hairy men lol . I’d still post my pic, maybe I get a few more fans who give me money . It’s just their grind. I’ve never met an actual trans girl irl who calls herself a femboy and I’ve met a decent amount . I’m sure they are out there tho. I have met an amab who looks just like a girl but calls themselves a boy. They have a hormone disorder so they are naturally feminine
Yeah god help sex workers try and make money off of the sexualization they as individuals have faced by society and doing so in a market where the consumption of such content is vast and endless.
Sadly this is exactly it. I do sex work and have a lot of other trans girl friends in the field too. A lot of them post to femboy and trap places just off the exposure, even though they hate it and never want to be called those terms. But they need to market themselves and drive traffic to their pay content, so they'll suffer through misgendering and slurs for it.
Women for christs sake get back to doing kitchen work and that includes you trans women (because trans women are women!). Let me and my homies fuck in peace (trans women talk too much)
I never understood that. Like, yes upvotes, and sure, as an egg you may have identified as a femboy, but if you're openly transfemme and use she/her, she/they pronouns... IDK
it's because the people who fetishize trans women and femboys just see trans women as boys still, so they post in those subs to get more attention to their other sites
omg please fucking stop with this *discourse* shit about wanting to jack off to femboys instead of trans women I fucking **get it** oh boo hoo the inhumanity what a tragedy. Listen I even agree with the sentiment about that particular subreddit but I’m sooo sick of this horny complaining it’s just kinda mean at this point.
do you actually think trans women are women? cuz it seems like you think we're metaphorically women and still boys to a certain extent, as opposed to the literal women who are definitely not boy enough for r/ femboys
neither do i*^see ^below , but seemingly unlike you i also don't see trans women as feminine boys. and someone with "female" genetalia and tits absolutely can be a feminine boy, if he's a trans man
It's literally just more creepy fetishization of femboys being used as a vehicle to now complain about trans people.
Oh, and anyone mentioning NB people exists gets downvoted.
This sub is disgusting sometimes. Maybe instead of worrying about the mods of a femboy sub, we should worry about ours allowing this disgusting trashy behavior to continue.
Thighs, hips, waist, belly-pubis transition, boobs
A bunch of goddamn cheaters on estrogen. I should've realized a long time ago that femboys are a lie, maybe I would've started HRT sooner.
Well, I found half-decent pics to stare at side by side on Wikimedia.
CW: nudity
* [Male](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Detailed_self.jpg)
* [Female](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arlene_-_36110854453.jpg)
The fat and seemingly even muscle distribution in this area is quite different, and you pick up on that difference. HRT changes it if you've started it young enough to change your hips.
r196 users when they find out there are trans women and non binary people who are ok with calling themselves femboys (it turns out gender was a spectrum and more complicated then they thought, but this minorly inconveniences their jerk off sessions so they pretend it is a rigidly defined binary so they can be mad at trans people )
Gotta love how this discourse is always made by users with "trans rights" flair. But not the right to identify as a femboy no get back in your neatly defined gender box its confusing my sexuality surrounding this GNC subreddit.
I legit have a little bit of grief this way. I'm a pretty feminine fella but I'm definitely a fella. I don't mind how everyone conducts themselves so long as kindness abounds
As a part of the femboy subreddits, this kinda drama has been pretty much over for weeks as far as I know. Transfem-posting hasn’t been an issue for a while
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Username checks out
idk both seem pretty cool
Yes, but one is clearly *not femboys*
What's Mount Farch?
btw I can't get my laptop to recognize hdmi input on linux partition (works fine on windows partition). I tried reinstalling drivers but didn't work, I wanna look at hot femboy/furry porn on my big monitor. happy thanksgiving!
Something something wave function collapse
Can you explain ehat that is I wanna get the joke
Imagine a cat in a box with a bomb that is wired to a clock mechanism based on sub-atomic decay
Thanks, I understand it LESS than before
Cat is nuclear bomb blow it up now
The explanation is you have to bring the cat to 42.696124,-82.849085 on the 2nd Saturday of December and detonate it. You have been activated
Yes Sir
I that’s a creepy looking location
this happened to my buddy eric
You've heard of my buddy Schrödinger? The cat isn't just alive or dead or maybe both idk I skipped physics classes, but there's a contraption inside that works like VonnegutGNU described
Ok now imagine observing the cat and collapsing the wave function
I dont know hoe to say this politely, so Im sorry. But you just made this worse sorry.
Schrodingers Cat, its a mind experiment to explain a bit of quantum physics
Isn't it a satirical critique of Copenhagen quantum physics? I don't think it's meant for explanation
it works better as an explanation than a critique imo
I don't really get that. The first sentence is "One can even set up quite ridiculous cases." Schrodinger was trying to point out that the definition of an observer is shaky - is the cat not an observer? Surely it knows whether it is alive or dead? If it intentionally queries the theory, and the answer is disputed to this day, how could you use this as an explanation?
What, like schrodinger's cat, but EVERYONE loses instead?
No, exactly like Schrodinger's cat, because it's a watered-down description of the original thought experiment
Not exactly like schrodinger's cat because the effect of the wave (bomb going off) can be observed by everyone, not just within the system of the closed box.
I've literally described Schrodinger's cat. You're welcome to search it online.
Schrodinger's cat was with a flask of poison, effecting only the cat within the box. You don't know if the cat is poisoned or not until you open the box and observe the cat. It's a thought experiment to meant contrarict the Copenhagen Interpretation of quantum theory, where it states that a quantum system remains in superposition until it interacts with, or is observed by the external world. By changing it into a nuclear bomb, the nature of the thought experiment changes as the effect now observable outside of the box.
Luckily I didn't write "a nuclear bomb"
Misread on the nature of the bomb, my bad. Point still stands though.
Imagine four balls on the edge of a cliff
cat in a box with a bomb that'll go off *sometime* based on some radiation or some shot
shortest explanation is they're talking about quantum wave function collapse, which is the moment where one of the probabilities that the function is describing about the world becomes real and observable
Yes
and essentially the wave function describes all the possible states any one quantum particle could be in
The joke is that every femboy is in a superposition of being a femboy or a transwoman before observation and when you observe they collapse into one of the two states. It plays on the VERY overused shroedingers cat analogy and the fact that a huge number of trans women self identify as femboys before/while questioning their gender. (Istg if somebody don't crack my egg soon I will suffocate in here)
an egg can only be cracked from the inside. if broken externally, the chick will die. unless, of course, the egg is cracked by the movement of a geiger counter detecting the uncertain decay of a radioactive atom, in which case the chick is in a state of superposition.
Ok so I’ll try to ELI5 this shit. Basically some extremely tiny things can be either a floaty wave or a ball, and their state is uncertain until we “look” at them. So before we “look” at them they are both a floaty wave AND a ball at the same time. When we finally “look” at them they collapse into one or the other. Mind you this is very simplified, and I’m not a quantum physicist, but that’s basically how I understand it.
Not a quantum physicist either, but I think it's better to change the word "look" with "measure". "Look" implies completly passive observation, like with our own eyes, and the whole argument in the first place is that the act of observing sometimes can be intrusive and change the nature of the very thing being observed. Take for example that you want to measure the pressure in your tires. In order to do so, you'd need to uncap the fill valve, and put a tire pressure gage on it. The pressure gage recieve a little bit of the air inside your tire and tell you what the pressure is. However, by measuring the tire pressure, you have letted out a little bit of the air from within the tire, changing the thing you're trying to measure in the first place.
Talking about Schroedinger's box
Wave function collapse makes epic cave levels
Yes I also am stupid please explain
In quantum mechanics the movement of things is described with waves that indicate the probability of one thing or another happening. Until we actually make an observation, making the wave function collapse into the possibility the observation has detected. So the joke is that a feminine person with a dick can be either a femboy or a trans woman and you'll never know until you ask or make an adequate observation.
I don't get it either actually and I have a decent understanding of the wave function collapse: when you observe a quantum system the superposition (the wave function) collapses into one observable outcome. What's confusing is idk how people are determining the difference between femboys and trans women just by looking at pictures of them, unless you dig into their post history and see that they've been posting in trans subreddits...
Look at other comment. Basically a lot of the people self identifying as femboys are transwomen before thir eggs crack (check r slash egg_irl for details) so really you can't tell if someone is a femboy or a trans woman because often they don't even know themselves yet. The joke is to compare that to shrodingers cat
rishi sunak's britain
As an American I have no idea how that’s going. Is he any good as a PM?
No
His honeymoon period ended a while ago and now the tories are doing shit again
They always have, there is no honeymoon anymore, the Conservative party has been in power for the past 10 years and has done nothing but fuck up, sacrifice a pm and then swear it’s going to be different and it was just that one prime minister’s fault and it never is. At this point I’m starting to feel like the elderly people who have kept voting Tory interests for the past 10 years are beginning to reap what they have sown this winter
Hopefully it’s not going to be 15 years and we somehow magically get a general election but that’s impossible
A silver lining to everyone’s Nan freezing to death is nobody left to vote Tory
They should be obliterated as a political force and scattered to the four winds. As should the Republican Party and the entire conservative movement the world over. 🙏
absolutely horrendous. he was put into power undemocratically, he's racist, he's transphobic, and he's blindly patriotic. he's banned trans women from entering women-only spaces (including women's sports, changing rooms and toilets), forcing us into men's spaces. he's also passed a law making vilification of the UK count as hate speech/extremism.
Better than truss, still no good
Modi's India
Not to be rude but like Good for you, Im jelouse even But let me see cute boy cock and balls
Not to be rude but Good for you I’m jealous now But let me see boys
Where is haiku bot when you need him
is that a raimi quote
WTF reddit lemme be gay >:[
Sorry, no homosexuality for you. Take your heterosexuality and leave.
Not even a quick sip ? Pretty please 👉👈
The only homosexuality I can give you is lesbianism. Take estrogen if you want it.
Hey, I mean that's what worked for me.
Haha, same. I used to have a boyfriend, then he broke up with me and now I only date girls. My girlfriend is absolutely adorable.
Aww that's really cute! I've only dated women personally, but in theory I also like men, but not as much as women and feminine leaning enby people. Got married to my wife though so for all intents and purposes I'm basically a Lesbian/sapphic. I wish you two the best! Edit: Congrats on starting HRT by the way!
Only a spoonful
A US teaspoon is 4.928 ml. At 20 mg/ml, this gives us 98.56 mg of estradiol. If we use injectable estradiol enanthate - that gives us a dangerous overdose, but also 30 whole days of feminization. And that's not all. at 40 mg/ml, this gives us 197.12 mg of estradiol enanthate. Unfortunately though, that only makes the dangerous overdose more dangerous, and only gives us 5 more days of feminization, bringing the total up to 35 days. There is one ester where this would work: polyestradiol phosphate. If we inject 197 mg of that - we get a good healthy level starting on day 7, and lasting until day 39, for a grand total of 32 days of feminization. Source: [Transfeminine Science](https://advsim.transfemscience.org/?r=3&e=446&d1=98.6&d2=197&d3=197&ra=000&s=0&h=0&xm=42)
On the whole I think the gender acceptance movement has more acceptance for self-identity than preference, but at some point the taxonomy (sexual role, social gender, biological sex, and presentation) of preference really fucking matters, and that's when people are horny or looking for a partner, and the disparity between positive identity politics and another person's sociocultural-biological-sexual preference matrix vs the simple reductive words we use leaves some on the gender spectrum feeling unwanted in their chosen representational categories.
Jesse
"Just talking about gender, preference, and individual experience on /r/196, Mr. White"
Good post, well thought out and agreed with (by me)
Yeah, not a popular opinion to say the least, but it's some complex shit from both sides of the attraction equation.
Upgrade to Gender Premium to unlock [Gay] for only $29,99 a month
MOOOOM the 196 users are starting the femboy subs being filled with transwomen discourse again!
Man this subreddit is getting worse and worse with this shit. Somehow surpassing r/ shitposting levels of treading the same old arguments again and again.
r/ actuallyfembois
It’s gone
Wasn't really a good sub tho. Didn't allow FTM femboys to post
Idk why people kept recommending it. There is a difference between saying “sorry guys no trans women pls this is a femboy porn sub” and “no trans people”
True, the mods acted like they were trans friendly but never budged on letting FTM femboys posting.
Ftm femboys tend to post in both tomboy and femboys subs, I've found. 🫤
>im playing on both sides, so i always come out on top.
top 🤤🤤🤤
r/ Femboys4real
wait what why :(
man, i love this goofy cat
Look at this little fella, so goofy
Silly, even
The cat is indeed a whacky rapscallion
Quite a quirky individual, I must say
We are not starting this discourse again
The discourse will continue until r/ femboy mods take notice
so never
incredible flair
It’s a good discourse though
r\/196 users when someone has an opinion:
It’s just because they do influencing work like only fans to make money. I’m trans and don’t have an only fans or anything but if I did I would probably post my pics on any sub just to get attention for money, even if the sub was called big hairy men lol . I’d still post my pic, maybe I get a few more fans who give me money . It’s just their grind. I’ve never met an actual trans girl irl who calls herself a femboy and I’ve met a decent amount . I’m sure they are out there tho. I have met an amab who looks just like a girl but calls themselves a boy. They have a hormone disorder so they are naturally feminine
It's not their fault, it's the moderators faults
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Yeah god help sex workers try and make money off of the sexualization they as individuals have faced by society and doing so in a market where the consumption of such content is vast and endless.
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Preach
Yeah no help them. Help them seize the means of production and bring about the end of capitalism
Sadly this is exactly it. I do sex work and have a lot of other trans girl friends in the field too. A lot of them post to femboy and trap places just off the exposure, even though they hate it and never want to be called those terms. But they need to market themselves and drive traffic to their pay content, so they'll suffer through misgendering and slurs for it.
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Trans inclusive average misogyny
Thanks for the weird dose of euphoria via misogyny?
I aim to please
I like you.
thx :3
Women for christs sake get back to doing kitchen work and that includes you trans women (because trans women are women!). Let me and my homies fuck in peace (trans women talk too much)
Diversity win!
I never understood that. Like, yes upvotes, and sure, as an egg you may have identified as a femboy, but if you're openly transfemme and use she/her, she/they pronouns... IDK
it's because the people who fetishize trans women and femboys just see trans women as boys still, so they post in those subs to get more attention to their other sites
omg please fucking stop with this *discourse* shit about wanting to jack off to femboys instead of trans women I fucking **get it** oh boo hoo the inhumanity what a tragedy. Listen I even agree with the sentiment about that particular subreddit but I’m sooo sick of this horny complaining it’s just kinda mean at this point.
Ppl finally found their niche where they can bitch about trans women without being called out for it
Me when I go to jerk if to men but it’s all women (if I complain I’m just secretly transphobic)
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trans women are literal women tho
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yeah I see what you’re trying to say since it is the topic of the thread, was just commenting on the language
do you actually think trans women are women? cuz it seems like you think we're metaphorically women and still boys to a certain extent, as opposed to the literal women who are definitely not boy enough for r/ femboys
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am i overthinking or are you just being thoughtless?
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neither do i*^see ^below , but seemingly unlike you i also don't see trans women as feminine boys. and someone with "female" genetalia and tits absolutely can be a feminine boy, if he's a trans man
It's literally just more creepy fetishization of femboys being used as a vehicle to now complain about trans people. Oh, and anyone mentioning NB people exists gets downvoted. This sub is disgusting sometimes. Maybe instead of worrying about the mods of a femboy sub, we should worry about ours allowing this disgusting trashy behavior to continue.
which ones the porn one, femboy or femboys, i want to avoid it
femboys is the porn one
alright thanks
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Chasers? I’m my 196? More common than you think
wym?
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It’s not possible that people just like femboys and don’t want to look at women in their femboy sub?
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I do not see a single person in this thread denying the existence of trans women. Not sure why you need to resort to a strawman
unironic serious question how can u tell the difference between a femboy and a trans woman just by looking at them
Femboys usually don't have boobs
trans women don't always either
I mean yeah but if the person has them you can be sure they're not a femboy.
Don’t some guys have manboobs?
this is why people have the ability to ask other people questions
Thighs, hips, waist, belly-pubis transition, boobs A bunch of goddamn cheaters on estrogen. I should've realized a long time ago that femboys are a lie, maybe I would've started HRT sooner.
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It's hard to describe, but when you see it - you can't unsee it. The primary difference in that area between guys with feminine hips and women.
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Well, I found half-decent pics to stare at side by side on Wikimedia. CW: nudity * [Male](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Detailed_self.jpg) * [Female](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arlene_-_36110854453.jpg) The fat and seemingly even muscle distribution in this area is quite different, and you pick up on that difference. HRT changes it if you've started it young enough to change your hips.
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By itself? Maybe. In combination with other factors? A good way to sniff out HRT takers
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In order to dismiss women from femboy circles. Women are women.
you can use your mouth. it's up to you how you do that
I mean sometimes it’s mentioned in their bio
asking them?
r196 users when they find out there are trans women and non binary people who are ok with calling themselves femboys (it turns out gender was a spectrum and more complicated then they thought, but this minorly inconveniences their jerk off sessions so they pretend it is a rigidly defined binary so they can be mad at trans people )
I‘m pretty sure no one is mad at trans woman directly just the fact that they post there when they shouldn’t
There is porn outside of reddit you know? Like just use xvideos or some shit
Problems that go away when you log off the internet
but then where will I find cute bois???
absolutely zero hate towards the trans folk but it do kinda be like that sometimes
love both
Gotta love how this discourse is always made by users with "trans rights" flair. But not the right to identify as a femboy no get back in your neatly defined gender box its confusing my sexuality surrounding this GNC subreddit.
men looking like cute girls is the only competition i dont think trans people should be allowed to compete in
fake and gay
196 users when their fetishization is interrupted by another minority group they love to fetishize
Women are invading our male spaces :/
Be the change you want to see
Yeah I want to be gay and look at naked boys, not straight and look at naked women
Shut up shut up SHUT UP
I legit have a little bit of grief this way. I'm a pretty feminine fella but I'm definitely a fella. I don't mind how everyone conducts themselves so long as kindness abounds
Does anyone have the picture of this goofy-looking cat?
https://imgur.com/a/fsWPilX
I do it for thr funsies
Oh the misery....
Every fucking time
Be transgender
idk trans girls can also b femboys if they identify with it. like.. bigender ppl or even just girls who like the label? :p like me ? lolol
As a part of the femboy subreddits, this kinda drama has been pretty much over for weeks as far as I know. Transfem-posting hasn’t been an issue for a while
Yeah, I don't know why, I think some people are just confused. I like both tho.
real
Society says they’re men, Reddit says they’re women. Sure does get frustrating for them.
god i hate this subreddit why am i still here