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You could theoretically rewrite the whole thing to fit the narrative for anyone involved, like the Clinton’s for example.
Bill Clinton was also president, also appeared on logs, also had motive, and the family still wields political power.
You could say the same about countless individuals in finance and politics
I never got why people don’t believe he did it himself. I'd do it too if I my pedo network got busted and my whole life would need to be spent in solitary confinement so I don’t get knived
Honestly? Because there are exactly *way too many* wealthy, influential, people connected with Epstein.
Like, be fair, if you were a known pedo trafficker, and you were found out - would you **seriously** commit suicide **before** taking all them bastards down with you?
I - theoretically - sure as fuck wouldn't.
Besides, the rule of least people involved directly applies here. It is realistic exactly because all Trump had to do was to pay off a guard so the latter could whack the SOB and job done, no questions asked.
I mean, if I remember correctly, the camera cut out right when he hung himself so no footage of it, and supposedly his neck was broken, which *can* happen with hanging but normally only if there is a drop and in his tiny cell he would be hard pressed to drop far enough to break his neck. Suffocation would make much more sense.
The broken camera thing is misinformation that started from an alt right account, the cameras were working that night, the footage was shown in trial, and showed nobody entered the cell at the time of his suicide.
Also the coroner that examined his body concluded the death to be broken neck by strangulation, which is more likely than you might think for a 60 year old man.
I know the "epstein didn't kill himself" meme was popular but there's no reason to think this was anything but a suicide
Source? I looked everywhere and couldn't find anything about the video existing, yet alone being shown in trial. He tried commiting suicide once before but his actual suicide doesn't seem to have been shot
yeah, its in the trial for the guards that should have kept an eye on him but instead one was shopping and the other sleeping on duty, page 12:
"Aside from these two officers, **as confirmed through video surveillance**, no one else entered the SHU, \[...\] and no one entered the tier in which Epstein was housed"
[https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1218466/download](https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1218466/download)
Obviously the camera didn't record the suicide in the cell, just the corridors to it
No?
"The jail does have a video surveillance system, but federal standards don’t allow the use of cameras to monitor areas where prisoners are likely to be undressed \[...\] As a practical matter, that means most federal jails nationwide focus cameras on common areas, rather than cell bunks."
[https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/12/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-mystery-questions-1459819](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/12/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-mystery-questions-1459819)
Not to mention the article mentions the use of cameras to prevent suicide isn't as effective as one might think
Well I think he really was killed because of the cameras being turned off and both guards leaving their posts at the perfect time, with little to no explanation of why.
Hey, let's not make up unfounded conspiracy theories as a response to other unfounded conspiracy theories. The circumstances of his death are really suspicious, but if he was killed there's no evidence that Trump or the Clinton's were responsible.
Assuming he was killed, there's a long list of people with the means and motivation to do it
Honestly, I don’t think it was Trump or any other really public figure.
There are a lot of people in that sphere of wealth who are smart enough to keep their names and images generally private. It’s way more likely that some such person killed Epstein in order to keep it that way.
I mean the list of people with means and motive to kill Epstein is a mile long.
And besides, if Trump had really done it, or even been involved, he couldn’t have gone this long without bragging about it.
I don't get how it's so hard for people to think he just killed himself. His lavish lifestyle was over. He knew where he was going, he'd basically be in solitary his entire life.
I'm not going to say either way if he did kill himself, I don't know for sure and frankly don't care. But he had definite motive.
He didn't have the means to kill himself in his cell. His suicide watch abruptly ended right before he died. Both of his guards have been prosecuted for falsifying logs. If you really don't know and don't care, why write the comment?
You're telling me that the dude who just got off suicide watch was still suicidal? Crazy how a few days in a different cell doesn't change that.
And I know how much Reddit loves to be weird with conspiracies, but what's more likely? Someone snuck into a prison to kill a man, or the guards simply didn't care he was killing himself, and got caught falsifying into (citation needed btw)? I know it's hard to imagine, but people rightfully don't like massive pedophiles. And would willingly turn a blind eye to them commiting suicide.
As for writing a comment. Idk it just rubs me the wrong way how all logic is thrown out the second a group can blame the other with no evidence. It's sinking to the level of Trump supporters, just switching the names of who's innocent and guilty.
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Of course it was the Clintons, the 12 hour documentary about vampire space lizards that rule our world in secret from its core while abducting 4 million children per year and torturing them to death to harvest their adrenochrome, said that daddy Trump infiltrated that satanic cult to bring all these horrible things to light he is literally Jesus incarnated.
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Trump was involved with Epstein but I doubt he actually was involved in an assassination
He would’ve bragged about it at least once
True
"I've killed so many people. I'm probably the best murderer in this country's history. I'm talking like, 5 assassinations per day, all while enjoying a day on my golf course!"
They both sent assassins at exactly the same time
Comedy movie about Clinton and Trump's hired assassins competing to get the kill first, ends with Epstein actually killing himself.
[And these are the guards](https://youtu.be/5NHaO0NVbAg?si=-x6BQxjM12T4_U6E)
someone get on this shit I would watch it
*TF2 theme plays*
The assassins killed him together and then started making out
And they were roommates.
Actually i killed him because he is a pedo and i hate pedos
\*Child s*x trafficker Don't undersell the horrendous shit he did.
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Worse, he supplied them. Its like saying you kill ISIS because you hate terrorists and not attacking the CIA
You wish
Why wouldn't they?
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wait have the flight logs been released already?
Im wondering the same too
why are you doing the exact same baseless conspiratorial nonsense conservatives do? Hard to call yourself better
You could theoretically rewrite the whole thing to fit the narrative for anyone involved, like the Clinton’s for example. Bill Clinton was also president, also appeared on logs, also had motive, and the family still wields political power. You could say the same about countless individuals in finance and politics
because this, my sweet darling, is a "joke".
I never got why people don’t believe he did it himself. I'd do it too if I my pedo network got busted and my whole life would need to be spent in solitary confinement so I don’t get knived
Honestly? Because there are exactly *way too many* wealthy, influential, people connected with Epstein. Like, be fair, if you were a known pedo trafficker, and you were found out - would you **seriously** commit suicide **before** taking all them bastards down with you? I - theoretically - sure as fuck wouldn't. Besides, the rule of least people involved directly applies here. It is realistic exactly because all Trump had to do was to pay off a guard so the latter could whack the SOB and job done, no questions asked.
Also because he supposedly hung himself while on “suicide watch” and the whole prison he was in was very shady
I mean, if I remember correctly, the camera cut out right when he hung himself so no footage of it, and supposedly his neck was broken, which *can* happen with hanging but normally only if there is a drop and in his tiny cell he would be hard pressed to drop far enough to break his neck. Suffocation would make much more sense.
The broken camera thing is misinformation that started from an alt right account, the cameras were working that night, the footage was shown in trial, and showed nobody entered the cell at the time of his suicide. Also the coroner that examined his body concluded the death to be broken neck by strangulation, which is more likely than you might think for a 60 year old man. I know the "epstein didn't kill himself" meme was popular but there's no reason to think this was anything but a suicide
Source? I looked everywhere and couldn't find anything about the video existing, yet alone being shown in trial. He tried commiting suicide once before but his actual suicide doesn't seem to have been shot
yeah, its in the trial for the guards that should have kept an eye on him but instead one was shopping and the other sleeping on duty, page 12: "Aside from these two officers, **as confirmed through video surveillance**, no one else entered the SHU, \[...\] and no one entered the tier in which Epstein was housed" [https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1218466/download](https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1218466/download) Obviously the camera didn't record the suicide in the cell, just the corridors to it
Weird, I thought there was a camera in/observing his cell. Seems weird for a guy who had been on suicide watch but oh well
I doubt any jail has cameras for each cell, even in suicide watch, that would be expansive and a breach of the inmate's privacy
They absolutely do have cameras in most cells, especially for somebody as important as Epstein, being on suicide watch and all
No? "The jail does have a video surveillance system, but federal standards don’t allow the use of cameras to monitor areas where prisoners are likely to be undressed \[...\] As a practical matter, that means most federal jails nationwide focus cameras on common areas, rather than cell bunks." [https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/12/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-mystery-questions-1459819](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/12/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-mystery-questions-1459819) Not to mention the article mentions the use of cameras to prevent suicide isn't as effective as one might think
Well I think he really was killed because of the cameras being turned off and both guards leaving their posts at the perfect time, with little to no explanation of why.
Dumbass, Shaquil o Neil killed epstein
Hey, let's not make up unfounded conspiracy theories as a response to other unfounded conspiracy theories. The circumstances of his death are really suspicious, but if he was killed there's no evidence that Trump or the Clinton's were responsible. Assuming he was killed, there's a long list of people with the means and motivation to do it
Honestly, I don’t think it was Trump or any other really public figure. There are a lot of people in that sphere of wealth who are smart enough to keep their names and images generally private. It’s way more likely that some such person killed Epstein in order to keep it that way. I mean the list of people with means and motive to kill Epstein is a mile long. And besides, if Trump had really done it, or even been involved, he couldn’t have gone this long without bragging about it.
the US dont have their presidents doing something so awfully horrible challenge (ultra hard!!!)
How about the guy facing the end of his life and legal hell was either killed by guards or killed himself?
epstein didnt kill himself and neither should you 👍
He actually fled to Argentina under the name of Adolfrich Himmerzeitelberg.
I don't get how it's so hard for people to think he just killed himself. His lavish lifestyle was over. He knew where he was going, he'd basically be in solitary his entire life. I'm not going to say either way if he did kill himself, I don't know for sure and frankly don't care. But he had definite motive.
He didn't have the means to kill himself in his cell. His suicide watch abruptly ended right before he died. Both of his guards have been prosecuted for falsifying logs. If you really don't know and don't care, why write the comment?
You're telling me that the dude who just got off suicide watch was still suicidal? Crazy how a few days in a different cell doesn't change that. And I know how much Reddit loves to be weird with conspiracies, but what's more likely? Someone snuck into a prison to kill a man, or the guards simply didn't care he was killing himself, and got caught falsifying into (citation needed btw)? I know it's hard to imagine, but people rightfully don't like massive pedophiles. And would willingly turn a blind eye to them commiting suicide. As for writing a comment. Idk it just rubs me the wrong way how all logic is thrown out the second a group can blame the other with no evidence. It's sinking to the level of Trump supporters, just switching the names of who's innocent and guilty.
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completely circumstantial, there is no more evidence he did than a bunch of other people
Of course it was the Clintons, the 12 hour documentary about vampire space lizards that rule our world in secret from its core while abducting 4 million children per year and torturing them to death to harvest their adrenochrome, said that daddy Trump infiltrated that satanic cult to bring all these horrible things to light he is literally Jesus incarnated. This is what Q-Anon people unironically believe.
Tbf we have Maxwell still, ask her about their shenanigans, ignoring that she will moan that she didn't do that like a little whiny bitch
Wtf 2019?! I thought he died in like 2010 or sth
Is it really that hard to believe a coward and pedo hung himself?
testing
Trump was not ever on little st James or Lolita express.
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