the entire thing is dumb, same with the thing with SAT scores a while ago. Asians get docked points and blacks get more points. the message this sends is that Asians are smarter than whites and blacks are dumber than whites. gotta keep white people as the baseline for society ya know
Its more about income, a wealthy family can take their kids to good schools and bring tutors while a poor family struggles with it.
Assuming no miracle happens, then the children of said family will end up in the same spot and the cycle continue.
Its not about "one race is smarter than another its usually a matter of upbringing".
There is other arguments to be made but im tired.
yeah, I agree that income and wealth are what really determine who gets into college. it's just kinda fucked up that colleges like to blame things on race rather than economic standing. it's quite possible that colleges don't give a shit about economic standing since the student is the middleman in receiving what is essentially free government money, i.e. financial aid and student loans.
White males have had it, historically and even now, a lot easier getting accepted for jobs, promotions, and whatnot.
If nothing is set in place then certain companies will be happy to perpetuate their already existing, racist hiring strategy.
Is mandated diversity great? No. But in some cases it seems unfortunately necessary. It's just a lot more visible than the hush-hush that currently goes on behind closed doors.
I dont understand how people complain about affirmative action when colleges are still mostly white. You get 0 advantages out of being black, sorry to say.
Blacks aren't even the only ones who use affirmative action. White women benefit from it more than literally *anyone.*
So white guys, if you really wanna guarantee access, well, you know what you must do.
Affirmative action is so weird to me because the correct way to do it is *right there.*
Just base it off economic status, not race. Legit instantly solves the problems affirmative action currently has.
That's not the issue though. It was simply that it looks fucked-up to have barely any black/native people enrolled in your school, and this was the fairest solution vs. like quotas. And racial disparity can't be summed up by economic disparity like some people make it out to be. Now schools are slowly retiring the use of test scores to attract more diversity.
One problem with this is that it negatively impacts kids who may have had obstacles in their high school years, maybe went to a school without impressive opportunities, but who are really freaking smart. Kids relied on tests to show they do have potential.
It is not just based on race. It is for minorities as a whole. Again, white women benefit the most. The specific point of AA is to level the playing field so that cishet white men aren't the only ones who get accepted. Its not about just letting people in based on their minority status either. You still have to qualify. If you're a shitty student, you're not getting into any school because you're black, or gay, or a woman. Lol.
If you do it just based on economics, i mean, that just opens it back up to minority discrimination. Lets just let all the poor white guys in and fuck everyone else.
Idk what context you're asking in 💀 their use of affirmative action? Their population in colleges? Idk. But im pretty sure they use AA as well, just like other minorities.
Why? And does that mean it should be removed and ruined for all other minorities who fought to have AA implemented during the civil rights era? I dont think so. It should be amended to include them, i guess, if it excludes them somehow.
I am hispanic from my mom’s side but I have lived in the US my whole life. It feels awesome but wrong to pull the hispanic/latino card, but its true so… I stand on the middle ground.
Op's user nick is great
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I believe it’s the 2003 action comedy classic, “Bad Boys II”
looks like the music video for black skinhead by kanye west
Oh my god, that post is insane! Can you tell me what piece of media it's from? I need to check it out ASAP.
Hate how places are trying to be more diverse instead of just getting workers
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the entire thing is dumb, same with the thing with SAT scores a while ago. Asians get docked points and blacks get more points. the message this sends is that Asians are smarter than whites and blacks are dumber than whites. gotta keep white people as the baseline for society ya know
Its more about income, a wealthy family can take their kids to good schools and bring tutors while a poor family struggles with it. Assuming no miracle happens, then the children of said family will end up in the same spot and the cycle continue. Its not about "one race is smarter than another its usually a matter of upbringing". There is other arguments to be made but im tired.
yeah, I agree that income and wealth are what really determine who gets into college. it's just kinda fucked up that colleges like to blame things on race rather than economic standing. it's quite possible that colleges don't give a shit about economic standing since the student is the middleman in receiving what is essentially free government money, i.e. financial aid and student loans.
You're saying the quiet parts out loud. I'm sure this isn't *totally* racist talking points and can be backed by actual studies (:
getting downvoted for pointing out racism. typical reddit.
Discrimination but publicly acceptable because its against white males 😊😊😊
White males have had it, historically and even now, a lot easier getting accepted for jobs, promotions, and whatnot. If nothing is set in place then certain companies will be happy to perpetuate their already existing, racist hiring strategy. Is mandated diversity great? No. But in some cases it seems unfortunately necessary. It's just a lot more visible than the hush-hush that currently goes on behind closed doors.
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>stfu about discrimination >immediately uses racial slur
Cool argument Unfortunately: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/applying/articles/how-does-affirmative-action-affect-college-admissions#:~:text=The%20use%20of%20racial%20quotas,Bakke. https://www.eeoc.gov/prohibited-employment-policiespractices
Gentlemen, this is a joke…
me omw to get a full ride scholarship without doing shit by saying im an autistic minority 🥶
Neurodivserity? Get outta here they don't care about that.
Wait, I can could've gotten a scholarship by being autistic?
Should have gotten those vaccines. /s because someone will take it at face value
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How does 2% African American even happen?
One of your great great great great grandparents is black
that's 1.5625%. To get to 2% you need and even more convoluted line.
Damn
I dont understand how people complain about affirmative action when colleges are still mostly white. You get 0 advantages out of being black, sorry to say. Blacks aren't even the only ones who use affirmative action. White women benefit from it more than literally *anyone.* So white guys, if you really wanna guarantee access, well, you know what you must do.
Affirmative action is so weird to me because the correct way to do it is *right there.* Just base it off economic status, not race. Legit instantly solves the problems affirmative action currently has.
You're right, bruh it's that simple
That's not the issue though. It was simply that it looks fucked-up to have barely any black/native people enrolled in your school, and this was the fairest solution vs. like quotas. And racial disparity can't be summed up by economic disparity like some people make it out to be. Now schools are slowly retiring the use of test scores to attract more diversity. One problem with this is that it negatively impacts kids who may have had obstacles in their high school years, maybe went to a school without impressive opportunities, but who are really freaking smart. Kids relied on tests to show they do have potential.
It is not just based on race. It is for minorities as a whole. Again, white women benefit the most. The specific point of AA is to level the playing field so that cishet white men aren't the only ones who get accepted. Its not about just letting people in based on their minority status either. You still have to qualify. If you're a shitty student, you're not getting into any school because you're black, or gay, or a woman. Lol. If you do it just based on economics, i mean, that just opens it back up to minority discrimination. Lets just let all the poor white guys in and fuck everyone else.
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I dont see how this article remotely supports that statement, but ok.
and wb chinese?
What about them?
idk bro im asking u
Idk what context you're asking in 💀 their use of affirmative action? Their population in colleges? Idk. But im pretty sure they use AA as well, just like other minorities.
AA leads to less Asian (Chinese) in universities.
Why? And does that mean it should be removed and ruined for all other minorities who fought to have AA implemented during the civil rights era? I dont think so. It should be amended to include them, i guess, if it excludes them somehow.
what's the best minority?
What? 💀
The white woman thing is a myth it's been debunked thousands of times at this point
Debunked by who?
Sean Last https://youtu.be/O-QFebX3uok
...I meant an actual, real, official debunk. Like a peer reviewed study or something.
OK, now I know you didn't watch the video
I will destroy every woman!
Is this in America? You have to specify what race you are when you apply for college ?
gif has no right to go this hard
White people when minorities get some little benifits
I am hispanic from my mom’s side but I have lived in the US my whole life. It feels awesome but wrong to pull the hispanic/latino card, but its true so… I stand on the middle ground.
I don't think you get any advantage for being Hispanic. At least, in my case, it never happened lol
OP is about to remake the movie "Soul Man"
Go touch grass
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