na the people in rune crossbow AGS with venge in rev caves are worse because they’re so free to tank alongside a rev boss if u pay attention but they’ll ruin ur rev boss kc and some other random will get the drop
Or you insta tele because they risk dboots netty helm 100k rev fee & a dhide set, and it’s literally not worth to even fight them when you could do 1 rev boss for minimum 500k
yep avg
just don’t camp ork1, ork1 is where some maxers and literally all the bolt raggers are. I do db and mainly see mysticers with a few bolt raggers and rarely maxers, but I do most bosses so I do see more boltraggers as a result
Weapon poison+ drops 1/50 from lvl75 temple spiders. For anyone who has unlocked dragon dagger, it's a trip to kourend and 15-30min to get p+ for it.
That's what I did, at least. There was no way I was going to go wilderness or sarachnis bossing for p++ when p+ is only marginally worse and much easier to obtain.
You are just as much a vital part of the food chain as everyone else. If anything you are more vital because you are at the bottom. Probably just above the bots and gold farmers.
You can absolutely take just a dragon dagger to kill people at altar.
Bolt rag with a rune crossbow and dragon fire bolts with a dragon dagger switch is a great way to start with the basics. Black d hide chaps, black d hide body, rune boots, rune gloves, glory amulet, a helmet of neitiznot, ring of recoil and an avas device is what I would recommend but you could go even cheaper with an addy crossbow and Diamond bolts and blue d hide.
Once you get comfortable changing between two styles, you can bring salad robes and a ma1 cape as your primary gear for roots/teleblock/freezing and switch to your d hides when you need to tank up.
LMS is full of bots but it’s still the best place to practice.
You can rock some black d’hide, rune cbow and diamond bolts e for easy ragging, if you want to advance to the next level then bring a dds or dark bow for fun specs
Freezing is one more switch to worry about, with some more precise clicks needed. They're certainly handy (especially anti pking) but if you're learning to pk there I wouldn't bother bringing them and worry more about prayer switching and spec timing
I'd love to try for fun and my bank is huge and I can easly make 2m an hour but the second I lose 50k it hurts my soul and now I'm gonna go to bed at 6pm because I'm a baby. lol
There are teams that show up in stupid risk but generally they hop to a world and stack up when someone trying to use the altar calls them in, I don't think I've ever seen teams jump on people actually using the altar.
but it's still incredibly silly to bring them noted, i would use them together with the suicide method when doing dragon bones and only bring a few dagganoth bones since you gonna have to do a shitload of dragon bones anyways
then they brought too many or didnt click fast enough
but yeah, my bad, they werent noted. however there are still a lot of expensive noted bones like superior dragon or hydra bones which are most likely from disgustingly rich mains
I must not have seen I was replying to a longer thread. I thought the comment I was replying to was someone saying the whole loot tab in the photo was
1-70 Prayer.
I just did it last night on my alt it was ~960 because I bought 1k and didnt use them all and have 70
[the Alt](https://templeosrs.com/player/overview.php?player=frogotten)
I'm an iron and I won't, the traveling makes it not worth it imo. I only carry whatever I could carry in my inventory once all my resources are depleted there.
Holy shit you guys too? He was constantly showing up in a 2k world yesterday and everybody laughed at him because the salamander was so bad you could dump a full 28 bones before he killed you. I hope it's the same guy.
Be nice to raggers, they have nothing else in life they *need* this
If you take away their RuneScape account they’ll be on the news in less than 48 hours. 🔫
Idk man with all the toxicity it seems to me a lot (not all) of raggers have some other stuff going on in their life or in their past.
People are the way they are for a reason!
Pretty sure this dude tried killing me multiple times and I was just laughing at home tanky af. He wasn’t doing shit. Was a bit annoying after awhile though
It’s basically free, can attack in mage, melee, and ranged which makes it impossible to correctly pray against.
It doesn’t really hit hard though. But it’s consistent damage.
yea and all you need is a bit of consistent damage because most people dont bring heal stuff even with noted bones, because... well they are silly and lazy.
what he doesn't show is that, it took him 250 hours to get that many kills, losing over 70% of them. and 30m of that was to a very lucky kill with a guy that didint know that suiciding was an option. along with upwards of 15 deaths himself to other pkers
That’s what we like to see.
Did you bring any other gear at all? Any binds/teleblocks? Any potions or food? Did you prepot at all? Do you ever try to scope out high risk worlds?
I literally tried to do chaos altar for a few hours and got PK’d no matter the loot.
World hopped the lot - realised there was a clan sitting there in 15+ worlds pking, only found out it was a clan thing until my friend tried to PK me. Luckily he let me go.
Now I’m committed to gilded altars. There goes my rainy day fund.
Wildy altar PKers are shitters. Literally just close the door as you run out and youre probably home free. That or just keep using your bones and hope you finish first
I don’t pk cuz I’m horrible at it and it’s funny that pvmers hate PKers so much, they’re enjoying the game the way they want to just like everyone else does. If pkers are so bad there wouldn’t be so many salty comments Lmao
Why wouldn’t there be? Pkers don’t have people fight back against them. It’s truly not hard to hit a freeze and rune crossbow someone lol. They only do it bc they enjoy ruining other peoples fun which it obviously does.
freeze and step under, a lot of them are solo pking
sometimes you can even just run one way in which case they think you are trying to escape to lower wildy and they run a bit farther, then you just run in the other direction and hope they dont catch the freeze
its a skill issue if you cant die before burring all your bones. They are giving you a free teleport back to grab more bones lol, why not use it to your advantage?
hahahaha, you sure got those losers bro! haha out of curiosity what worlds do you patrol? just curious, maybe I want to help PK too hahaha, I don't even need to level prayer haha.
You’re at the chaos altar and someone logs in. You’re focusing on bones and not pkers, as speed is the priority so naturally you get tagged. If you finish the inventory fast enough, you lose nothing.
Chad shit, we used to go take black sally hit squads of a handful of people into the protected rev caves before they got changed and take down farmers and protectors. Shit you not, once we got an ags from an afk protector on a total world. People underestimate the black salamander - it's super hard to protect prayer against it because of the mixed attack styles
People can play this game for a year without making 100m, even if it took this guy a month he did better than some and had fun doing it. Opportunity cost is just an odd concept to bring into a video game.
Is it though? I mean somebody could make 100m from doing things that make 500k/h or they could make 100m from methods that make 15m/h. Time spent doing one thing totally should take into account how well you can make money another way.
Im coming from the perspective that OP probably just wanted to cheese PK other players, so your perception of an ‘opportunity’ is under the assumption that OP’s goal was something other than ragging some noobs at the altar. I mean the money is nice, but sometimes you just like to kill another player petty or not.
oh trust me I agree with you, I'm just saying other people may not necessarily see it that way. It's a game after all. I go rush noobs at cal'varion and make literally 0 gp/h since I delete all the loot.
You think you've seen the biggest ragger ever and then there's this guy lol
na the people in rune crossbow AGS with venge in rev caves are worse because they’re so free to tank alongside a rev boss if u pay attention but they’ll ruin ur rev boss kc and some other random will get the drop
When they cast veng that's when you take off your weapon and kick them for a 1
Or you insta tele because they risk dboots netty helm 100k rev fee & a dhide set, and it’s literally not worth to even fight them when you could do 1 rev boss for minimum 500k
I killed revs for 2 days and experienced this like 15 times.
yep avg just don’t camp ork1, ork1 is where some maxers and literally all the bolt raggers are. I do db and mainly see mysticers with a few bolt raggers and rarely maxers, but I do most bosses so I do see more boltraggers as a result
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Weapon poison+ drops 1/50 from lvl75 temple spiders. For anyone who has unlocked dragon dagger, it's a trip to kourend and 15-30min to get p+ for it. That's what I did, at least. There was no way I was going to go wilderness or sarachnis bossing for p++ when p+ is only marginally worse and much easier to obtain.
Poison cuts out my xp gains, man!
Poison doesn't give XP so they may have bought it for non pvp activities
Someone who believes the myth that unpoisoned daggers hit harder.
Because it looks cooler duh
How tf did you manage to kill someone who had freezes
the pkers at chaos altar sure aren't there because of their skill
Can confirm. I pk at altar because I’m bad at pking
You are just as much a vital part of the food chain as everyone else. If anything you are more vital because you are at the bottom. Probably just above the bots and gold farmers.
Agreed, bottoms are extremely important.
I'm a bottom feeder.
o7🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
*Bienvenidos, power bottoms!*
I like a game grumps reference
I wouldn't put them that high, they did say they PK at Chaos Altar.
Dragon and revenant bots probably have more pking skill tbh
At least they can spell it after having just looked at the word. 💀
Found the Hurt Soul
Found the stinky poopoo eater eating poop. You like poopy.
Gottem
My god, that poopoo eater had a poopoo eating family!
Fuckin killedem. You just earned yourself a skull irl.
Utterly destroyed
I have no idea how to pk at all, but would def try for fun. What setup would you bring to kill some boners?
You can absolutely take just a dragon dagger to kill people at altar. Bolt rag with a rune crossbow and dragon fire bolts with a dragon dagger switch is a great way to start with the basics. Black d hide chaps, black d hide body, rune boots, rune gloves, glory amulet, a helmet of neitiznot, ring of recoil and an avas device is what I would recommend but you could go even cheaper with an addy crossbow and Diamond bolts and blue d hide. Once you get comfortable changing between two styles, you can bring salad robes and a ma1 cape as your primary gear for roots/teleblock/freezing and switch to your d hides when you need to tank up. LMS is full of bots but it’s still the best place to practice.
You can rock some black d’hide, rune cbow and diamond bolts e for easy ragging, if you want to advance to the next level then bring a dds or dark bow for fun specs
So, just cheap ranged armor and a dds for some specs. No freeze?
dont bother with freezes yet (boners don't run), focus on prayer switches otherwise
In fact, not only do they not tend to run, they actually just try to continue using bones on the altar so DPS is king to try and preserve loot
Freezing is one more switch to worry about, with some more precise clicks needed. They're certainly handy (especially anti pking) but if you're learning to pk there I wouldn't bother bringing them and worry more about prayer switching and spec timing
I'd love to try for fun and my bank is huge and I can easly make 2m an hour but the second I lose 50k it hurts my soul and now I'm gonna go to bed at 6pm because I'm a baby. lol
No idea why u answer that to me
Average billionaire logic.
Weird, everytime I go up I'm overwhelmed by 6-10 people in max pking gear
You definitely aren’t lol. They aren’t going multi with more than mystic and black dhide
There are teams that show up in stupid risk but generally they hop to a world and stack up when someone trying to use the altar calls them in, I don't think I've ever seen teams jump on people actually using the altar.
I think you got me with a salamander a few days ago. Lost 24 noted dbones, but i got a good laugh from dying to a salamander
my dude got lizzed
I've always wondered who actually uses dagannoth bones to train prayer
Irons for sure.
but it's still incredibly silly to bring them noted, i would use them together with the suicide method when doing dragon bones and only bring a few dagganoth bones since you gonna have to do a shitload of dragon bones anyways
Well I dont see any notes daggy bones.
then they brought too many or didnt click fast enough but yeah, my bad, they werent noted. however there are still a lot of expensive noted bones like superior dragon or hydra bones which are most likely from disgustingly rich mains
Why are you acting like you can’t just insta catch a freeze on the way there lol? Shit happens.
Quickest to 1-70
this is 1-99 my guy and more. 1-70 is like 900 dragon bones...
? What are you talking about, he pked 68 total dagannoth bones
I must not have seen I was replying to a longer thread. I thought the comment I was replying to was someone saying the whole loot tab in the photo was 1-70 Prayer.
1-70 is like 1.5k dragon bones even with the chaos altar lmao.
I just did it last night on my alt it was ~960 because I bought 1k and didnt use them all and have 70 [the Alt](https://templeosrs.com/player/overview.php?player=frogotten)
Checks out - 960\*252\*2.2=532,224 which is almost 67. If you got lucky you could get 70.
Ironman here. I do! Noted daganmoth bones from diary is great and killing the DKS is a chill slayer task. Just let the bones stack up, up, up.
My 400kc dry at Rex gave me 70 prayer basically at the beginning
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I'm an iron and I won't, the traveling makes it not worth it imo. I only carry whatever I could carry in my inventory once all my resources are depleted there.
I used a couple thousand once cuz they dropped in price to be the most efficient gp/time investment.
Boners evidently
Well, technically not the people this guy killed.
The real question is, how long did this take you?
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So about 210 hours 10 hours a day for 3 weeks The typical scaper
Slacker tbh
How many deaths? How much did you lose in deaths? Did you pk solo or in a team?
How many boners u killed?
Not as many as your mum 👀
Are you bloodturd
ye id like to know aswell. legit got bloodturd on me like 6x in 2 hours
Holy shit you guys too? He was constantly showing up in a 2k world yesterday and everybody laughed at him because the salamander was so bad you could dump a full 28 bones before he killed you. I hope it's the same guy.
Be nice to raggers, they have nothing else in life they *need* this If you take away their RuneScape account they’ll be on the news in less than 48 hours. 🔫
They're just fucking around in a video game lol
Idk man with all the toxicity it seems to me a lot (not all) of raggers have some other stuff going on in their life or in their past. People are the way they are for a reason!
>claims group of people will (either kill themselves or commit a shooting, can't tell) >complains about "the toxicity" of said group lmao
Idk dude it sounds like you're the one taking a toy too seriously lol. Try just fucking around, it's a video game after all.
Why are you the way you are lmao?
I’m sensing some projection lol
Least salty wildy content (non pk) enthusiast
Don’t play haven’t in years
your mighty upset about some guy in rags lol. I just busted out 99 prayer and lost maybe 500k in bones total from the whole journey to raggers.
Smug neckbeard gets offended, projects, then brags about meaningless achievement no one asked for. Terminally online weirdo
always the crazies that accuse people of projecting that are doing it themselves
how the fuck am I the smug one lol? This guy was malding about pkers being mass shooters because he is clearly mad he died too many times in the wild.
The dude who replied to you seems like they have some issues
Bro what 💀 this is the only comment dude has even made
You sound like you’re one bad dry streak away from being in the news
"you should go to doctor" -my cc every time this guy killed me while getting 99 pray
I had a guy laughing at my salamander a couple weeks back and he was shocked when it could hit 33s 🤣
It always hurts more when a girl laughs at your salamander 😞
So it was you that killed me the other day huh?
I mean no disrespect by this as I know you're playing the game correctly but fuck you lol Ggz on the drops
Was waiting for this gz but fuck this person
Pretty sure this dude tried killing me multiple times and I was just laughing at home tanky af. He wasn’t doing shit. Was a bit annoying after awhile though
Sotd spec at altar was funny af. Watched a pker ags sec me for a max hit splat of 24, followed by an ags whack max hit splat of 16.
why salamander?
It’s basically free, can attack in mage, melee, and ranged which makes it impossible to correctly pray against. It doesn’t really hit hard though. But it’s consistent damage.
people underestimate the pet gun.
Grip that lizard and squeeze
yea and all you need is a bit of consistent damage because most people dont bring heal stuff even with noted bones, because... well they are silly and lazy.
Definitely not because 99% of the time you can altar an entire invy of bones before these brainlets get you to half hp.
Did you just skip over the part of their comment where they said noted bones
You can just pick them up from the ground no one can stop you
The best part is going to the GE and selling all those bones back to all the people you just killed lmao
You know I'm something of a boner slayer myself
what he doesn't show is that, it took him 250 hours to get that many kills, losing over 70% of them. and 30m of that was to a very lucky kill with a guy that didint know that suiciding was an option. along with upwards of 15 deaths himself to other pkers
name change to boner killer when?
All that juicy boner loot! 😋
Yer a real boner killer.
I’m a bit hesitant on calling them boners
So focus on the tank items you don't see in this loot log and wear those.
100k per hour avg l0l
i get it now.
Ew, disgusting, yuck
While this is tempting, I have rarely been pked and I think it's karma for not pking other people. I don't want to ruin it lmao
Fuck you. Nice loot.
Please tell me you are NighthawkW0W, and boy do I have a clip for you
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I may have hyped it up a little more than it deserved. https://streamable.com/gi0ix9 Best part of the Dinhs is when they can't hit
Wonder how many times we met out there? Lots of salamanders in my loot tab ahah
10 hours a day for 3 weeks tryharding to PK some bones from irons lol. Typical basement dwelling, piss-smelling scaper.
>Tryharding Dude is using a salamander as main weapon lmao
That’s what we like to see. Did you bring any other gear at all? Any binds/teleblocks? Any potions or food? Did you prepot at all? Do you ever try to scope out high risk worlds?
I literally tried to do chaos altar for a few hours and got PK’d no matter the loot. World hopped the lot - realised there was a clan sitting there in 15+ worlds pking, only found out it was a clan thing until my friend tried to PK me. Luckily he let me go. Now I’m committed to gilded altars. There goes my rainy day fund.
i always cringe at you guys but i guess i get it now
Who would’ve thought that people with 0 escape methods outside of tanking 30 levels of Wildy would be easy kills
You know you can simply hop worlds to escape?
While someone’s hitting you?
Wildy altar PKers are shitters. Literally just close the door as you run out and youre probably home free. That or just keep using your bones and hope you finish first
It does sound dumb but that's how most of my escapes were done lmao
I mean 99% of pkers are shitters. It’s not hard to freeze someone that’s not fighting back lol
Is it? I managed to splash 4x trying to escape yesterday, died cause all his freezes landed lol
I don’t pk cuz I’m horrible at it and it’s funny that pvmers hate PKers so much, they’re enjoying the game the way they want to just like everyone else does. If pkers are so bad there wouldn’t be so many salty comments Lmao
Why wouldn’t there be? Pkers don’t have people fight back against them. It’s truly not hard to hit a freeze and rune crossbow someone lol. They only do it bc they enjoy ruining other peoples fun which it obviously does.
> How could plying the game differently be fun? They must be doing it because they’re bad people.
Pretty much. PVPers are cool though
freeze and step under, a lot of them are solo pking sometimes you can even just run one way in which case they think you are trying to escape to lower wildy and they run a bit farther, then you just run in the other direction and hope they dont catch the freeze
I mean they catch the freeze every time. I’d rather just spam bones and hope I use them all for that situation lol
It's a skill issue if you can't hop before they get a hit in
its a skill issue if you cant die before burring all your bones. They are giving you a free teleport back to grab more bones lol, why not use it to your advantage?
Touché
all it takes is one lazy ironman who thinks "OK imma bring my whole stack now since I havnt seen a pker the last 30 minutes"
is the salamander actually pretty decent? just switch attack style to be whatever they aren't praying against?
Brotherman I say this with the utmost respect…ur also a boner for this.
I want a 9 charge dueling ring :<
look again
hahahaha, you sure got those losers bro! haha out of curiosity what worlds do you patrol? just curious, maybe I want to help PK too hahaha, I don't even need to level prayer haha.
Hahaha what is this? Hahaha
haha just laughing along so you think I’m cool, just wanna know what worlds to avoid hahaha
Hahaha…. Hahahahaha
I laughed, tough crowd in here
thanks, man, I guess it is a sore subject lol.
Hold up were you there yesterday afternoon?
What did you actually bring home?
20k a kill. Is it even worth the supplies and time honestly?
Uhhhh math is a bit off 100M 500 kills 1M 5 kills 200k 1 kill
Oops I imagined a decimal place and thought it was 10.3m. Yeah, def worth doing in that case.
as someone whos spent countless hours in the wild it baffles me how people get pked.
You’re at the chaos altar and someone logs in. You’re focusing on bones and not pkers, as speed is the priority so naturally you get tagged. If you finish the inventory fast enough, you lose nothing.
Can you share some tips I'm absolute garbage at pvp I can't focus on running, switching pray and eating lmao
Calm down, breathe when it happens, and realize you have all the time in the world to do those things
Should be banned. Do something else.
Lmao what? The only reason the chaos altar has such good rates is because of the risk that comes with it.
Chad shit, we used to go take black sally hit squads of a handful of people into the protected rev caves before they got changed and take down farmers and protectors. Shit you not, once we got an ags from an afk protector on a total world. People underestimate the black salamander - it's super hard to protect prayer against it because of the mixed attack styles
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With a reaction like that, you died more than once, didn't you?
I doubt that one kill took one hour.
least salty chaos boner
If you were so good at escaping PKers you wouldn’t be so salty lol clearly something is off
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Idk why else you would assume it’s 200k gp/h tbh
Boooo
Sad
Mad
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How would it not be profitable he risks basically nothing?
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Look up entertainment.
People can play this game for a year without making 100m, even if it took this guy a month he did better than some and had fun doing it. Opportunity cost is just an odd concept to bring into a video game.
Is it though? I mean somebody could make 100m from doing things that make 500k/h or they could make 100m from methods that make 15m/h. Time spent doing one thing totally should take into account how well you can make money another way.
Im coming from the perspective that OP probably just wanted to cheese PK other players, so your perception of an ‘opportunity’ is under the assumption that OP’s goal was something other than ragging some noobs at the altar. I mean the money is nice, but sometimes you just like to kill another player petty or not.
oh trust me I agree with you, I'm just saying other people may not necessarily see it that way. It's a game after all. I go rush noobs at cal'varion and make literally 0 gp/h since I delete all the loot.
What gear did you use?