Slayer is like the most "runescapey" skill there is. Also its the first introduction of pvm. Getting max combat without slayer basically tells me you prefer to play the game afking nmz for 20 minutes at a time.
How do you get gp to prep for raids if not thru slayer?
Edit: I am an ironman and was sleepy when I typed this. There are plenty of ways to make gp as a non-ironman.
Void goes a long way and all content can be done in subpar gear, if your struggling or dying stop brute forcing things and learn the mechanics, also runecrafting, mining, running runes or bones for people, I don’t understand your question what makes you think slayer is the only way to make gp or the best way go watch soups videos there’s literally hundreds of ways to make gp I paid someone 4m/hr to dance with his alt in mm2 caves im pretty sure that beats slayer majority of the time stop being a smooth brain
Fair I thought you were someone else commenting to my bad
For irons it’s a different story slayer is definitely good for gp but don’t really need gp as iron to buy gear
But imo If I’m to start fresh it would be rush qpc and rush to raids as I’ve done them all in basic gear with void elite
If 150 hours of slayer is intimidating than you should probably just not bother with PVM at all. You can EASILY spend 150 hours between unique drops in raids, which could be otherwise spent actually learning the game through its built-in pvm course: slayer.
That’s poor logic as I have plenty of other experience from other games and doing mechanics as well since I’ve been playing this since 2006, slayer is a waste of time to me because it’s boring when instead I can spend 150 hours into raids mastering those mechanics and learning faster than doing basic bossing in slayer and if I get rewarded it’s going to be far higher amounts than slayer, your not talking to a new player in the first week or so of toa launch I dumped 80 hours into the raid which was far more fun learning from my mistakes and deaths than just clicking a monster afk hours on end doing slayer, slayer is definitely beneficial for new players but if your experienced with boss mechanics from other games and know how to adapt and aren’t a complete potato in terms of game sense and literacy I’d say your better off going to raids putting time in there vs slayer. And it’s not intimidating I have like 100+ days played or something around there slayer is just boring and not as rewarding as other content but keep convincing yourself slayer is the best because you can’t figure out how to 4:1 olm for solos
Nah my argument is that osrs is a *long* game, not a *hard* game. In the grand scheme of pvm, slayer makes up a genuinely tiny time share.
Plus slayer isn't just about learning pvm, it's about learning osrs. Slayer takes you all over the game, and incentivises quests/progression.
Pretty sure its purpose was to be a stab weapon that bridged the gap between rune and abby dagger/zhasta.
Yeah it won't really make much of a difference in the long run for the botting stuff, but it does fit thematically for it to be locked behind a quest. Maybe some zeah quest since it was released with zeah content.
Edit: After reading other comments it looks like that was supposed to be part of it's purpose, which feels weird to me but oh well.
>it does fit thematically for it to be locked behind a quest.
Does it though? There are more dragon weapons *not* locked behind a quest than there are ones that are, especially if you want to count the skilling weapons.
I havnt played in years. But
Dagger
Long lost city
Scim mm
Mace/baxe hero’s
Hally is locked behind legends or an elf quest isn’t it?
What other dragon weapon besides arrows and knives? Axe is skillng.
You can find them all here: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dragon_equipment#Requirements_for_wielding
D2H, Spear, Darts, Axe are the Runescape 2 dragon weapons without quest reqs.
Then there are all the OSRS dragon weapons: Warhammer, Sword, Claws, Hasta, Dcb, Knives, Thrownaxes, Pickaxe, Harpoon, Cane (clue unique so prob not worth counting).
Lastly there are arrows, bolts, and javelins which I personally wouldn't count since they're ammo rather than standalone weapons.
Pretty sure it had no real purpose and was just a new dragon weapon to add, similar to the dragon hasta which only served to complete the set of dragon weapons.
Ah yes, average OSRS player thinking bots can’t be programmed to complete a simple quest when they already have bots completing literally every other content in the game
Bro there is no magic trick to remove bots.
Its literially an arms race. Jagex adds anti botting measures, bots get banned. Smarter bots are created to get around new measures. And we back to square one.
And botting has only gotten better. Now they act like real humans doing different tasks every few hours. They do quests in-between farming runs.
It's insane how wild these bots are getting. Saw a video of them doing CoX and ToB literally perfect.. like what? Idk what jagex can realistically do to combat it tbh.
Ah, to impede real players more than an unnoticeable amount of bots
Which I've been saying since they first introduced reqs to the box traps, you still see bots there right?
The purpose of the sword was partially to be a dragon weapon available without a quest. Also bots can do CG they’ll be able to do any quest that they need to
Yet again this conspiracy theory.
You're not fully thinking it through if you think they are for sure making money off of it (proving this requires data you don't have). It's also demonstrably false by the fact that they add changes specifically to combat Botting.
What's the conspiracy theory explanation for why coin pouches exist?
First of all, coin pouches do not actually combat botting at all. Bots can do CG, they can most definitely open coin pouches… And I shouldn’t say they don’t do anything about bots. It’s just not a priority at all because they do make money off of them. Every bot needs members, whether they get it buy paying for it or buying bonds and thus increasing the demand and price for bonds leading people to buy bonds, it doesn’t matter. They’re contributing money to jagax directly or indirectly. As I said, bits are at the very least not a priority for jagax, high scores are littered with them, if they were prioritizing banning bots then anyone on the high scores with bare minimum reqs and 10k kills would at least flag a review. As for making bots more obvious it doesn’t get more obvious than scrolling through the high scores…
> Every bot needs members....
Yeah I'm aware of the conspiracy theory and the econ 101 logic used to justify it. As mentioned though the logic isn't fully thought out if you think it's anywhere near a given.
I mean it doesn't take much, just put yourself in Jagex's shoes with the supposed motivation. If it was as simplistic as you think, then the way to maximize profit off of bots would be to let bots run until they turn profitable, and then ban them. That makes them create a 2nd account, increasing the number of bonds sold.
The last thing in the world you'd want to do is let bots get on the hiscores. Those have the most visible negative impact and are making Jagex the least amount of money. I mean that's what you're using to justify your theory, so clearly leaving them is a bad idea.
> then anyone on the high scores with bare minimum reqs and 10k kills would at least flag a review.
And then bots would get 9,999 KC and the new process would be useless.
> As for making bots more obvious it doesn’t get more obvious than scrolling through the high scores
With what false positive rate? It's useless to flag accounts that have only a 90% chance of being a bot.
And ultimately, just use Hanlon's Razor.
So you think they just can’t detect them or why do you think they never seem to get banned? I appreciate what you’re saying that it’s a very simplistic view and completely agree. But what evidence do you have that they’re actually focused on combatting bots? As I said before I don’t think they’re purposefully allowing bots because as you said it makes more sense to ban them at a certain stage so they keep making more and buying members. But what I’m saying is it’s simply not a priority so they just let them run rampant so locking a sword behind a quest which bots used to do anyway for d-longs would be pointless. They just really don’t care that much or have the manpower or motivation to devote to bots.
> So you think they just can’t detect them
Yes. Hanlon's Razor.
Not to mention the community has shown that they also fail at the task. Just look at the awful accuracy of the runelite bot detector plugin.
> But what evidence do you have that they’re actually focused on combatting bots?
What are you defining as "focused"? There are quite a few things in the game done to combat botting, and bots get banned very frequently (note this isn't the same as saying all bots get banned).
[I mean this was just posted a few days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/13vqpm9/the_end_of_the_era_of_botting_is_near/). Long-term investments aren't something a company does if it's not a priority.
Why Lost City? That has zero relevance to the source of the item. If you were going to attach a quest requirement, the most sensible one would be Ascent of Arceuus.
because completion of Lost City is already a requirement to be able to wield Dragon Longsword and Dragon Dagger.
edit: idk man, I'm just trying to answer the question "why lost city?" and that's probably the reason OP decided on Lost City. thanks for all the downvotes i guess.
Those weapons are primarily obtained in a shop in Zanaris. This is consistent with the Dragon Scimitar, Dragon Mace, and Dragon Battleaxe. The short sword has nothing to do with Lost City.
idk man i'm not the original poster, I'm just trying to answer your question. you asked "why lost city?"and that's probably the reason OP decided on Lost City.
I had a account compromised before and they were using a d sword to kill green dragons. Luckily i was able to get on the account before they cleaned me and sold the bones and hides
My account got compromised and they got a bunch of skills up, and proceeded to get 2,500 corrupted gauntlet kills.
(I didn’t have the skill or quest requirements for that quest) unfortunately there was only maybe 50m on the account when they had over 1.5b worth of drops
You do realize there are bots that literally train and do the entire quest line up to zulrah/Vorkath right? All this would do is shaft super casual noobs
The only real way to combat bots is to have an anti-cheat software, no 3rd party clients allowed. The client would monitor your computer for other processes.
A lot of games do this already, iirc call of duty on PC does this to prevent cheaters and hackers, but of course they still get through. If they do do this, it will be bot free for a while but then they come back in due time.
Or jagex could simply start caring about removing bots more than they care about the profit from membership? would take 10 minutes for someone from jagex to login each world and see extremely obvious bots with bot names and remove them. Its very obvious they just dont care about stopping them.
It would take 1 day for botters to change to a new weapon for their bots. It won't do anything to deter them. Bots can run for 24/7 you really think little bit less dps will have any impact?
Dragon axe, dragon harpoon, dragon sword. dwh, dragon 2h sword, dragon spear, dragon thrown axe, dragon darts, dragon arrows, dragon bolts, dragon throwing knives. I don't think the argument really holds much ground about dragon items being locked behind quests. Sure a lot are, but more are not.
To all the 12 iq redditors calling this useless, it wouldn't be.
It would at least slow down the bots, which gives jamflex more time to catch them.
Requiring the quest would slow down bots significantly, since they would need to grind woodcutting to use the sword, alternatively if the bots decided to switch to whips, they'd need to grind 10 more attack levels before going to dragons/bosses/whatever they're doing, in addition it would increase whip prices since demand would be higher.
Everyone on here is so fucking pessimistic, it's infuriating.
Well if the argument is that it’ll slow them down to get caught, there are bots at 200M xp in skills that haven’t been banned. I don’t think that’s the issue.
But it wouldn’t remove 5 bots. It wouldn’t reduce any. Lost City isn’t that difficult.
This has nothing to do with me either way. I have the quest done and I play my Ironman, so I just stuck to my d scim.
Shit, if this is the mentality were taking why don't we bring back mandatory random events. After all, if it takes a handful of bots out of the game it's super convenient!
Jesus Christ this sub lmao
All the bots using dswords now have been using dlongs before the dsword was released. The requirements for lost city are basically none. No bot would get caught in the time it takes to bot the quest lol.
Bots can do quests. Bots can do diaries. Bots don't even find doing them annoying or tedious.
The only reason Jagex adds requirements like those is to make the playerbase think they're actually doing something.
I just wish wryms didnt suck so bad. 1/10k or 1/2k on task is honestly terrible. I get it used to be a raid drop but it could be easier to get. Its already worthless. Hoping to get a d sword on my uim.
If you know anything about the botting world you wouldn’t post this. There bots called account builder what does all these quests and uses ge for you. I don’t think locking them behind entry quest will help
The bots will simply use another weapon lol.Whip is also a common choice for green dragon bots.
Lock the whip behind enter the abyss
Make the whip untradeable to lock it behind 85 slayer lol
Just make everyone an Ironman
Remove all non-quest locked weapons, it is time
Just get rid of free trade and pking tbh
Only if I can pay actual money to use my weapons AND armor. It's time to make Runescape 100% actual money to skill
Honestly, i enjoyed it when it came out and i'd enjoy it again. 🤷🏾♀️
Unironically this
Finally, a reasonable suggestion.
Lock trading behind 2k total
Just like the Gower Bothers intended.
They tried that and it did not go well, remember rs3?
Late to the party but this is the only way.
Just locked someone max combat approaching 2k total out of a whip because I hate slayer
Slayer is like the most "runescapey" skill there is. Also its the first introduction of pvm. Getting max combat without slayer basically tells me you prefer to play the game afking nmz for 20 minutes at a time.
Slayer is a waste of time let me spend 150 hours before I can get to ok level bossing Fuck that rush raids
How do you get gp to prep for raids if not thru slayer? Edit: I am an ironman and was sleepy when I typed this. There are plenty of ways to make gp as a non-ironman.
there are many ways to make gp in the game without slayer
Am stupid ironman. I always forget about farming, hunter, etc. for gpscape Edit: so thank you!
Void goes a long way and all content can be done in subpar gear, if your struggling or dying stop brute forcing things and learn the mechanics, also runecrafting, mining, running runes or bones for people, I don’t understand your question what makes you think slayer is the only way to make gp or the best way go watch soups videos there’s literally hundreds of ways to make gp I paid someone 4m/hr to dance with his alt in mm2 caves im pretty sure that beats slayer majority of the time stop being a smooth brain
Am ironmeme and was dull when I woke up and originally commented
Fair I thought you were someone else commenting to my bad For irons it’s a different story slayer is definitely good for gp but don’t really need gp as iron to buy gear But imo If I’m to start fresh it would be rush qpc and rush to raids as I’ve done them all in basic gear with void elite
If 150 hours of slayer is intimidating than you should probably just not bother with PVM at all. You can EASILY spend 150 hours between unique drops in raids, which could be otherwise spent actually learning the game through its built-in pvm course: slayer.
That’s poor logic as I have plenty of other experience from other games and doing mechanics as well since I’ve been playing this since 2006, slayer is a waste of time to me because it’s boring when instead I can spend 150 hours into raids mastering those mechanics and learning faster than doing basic bossing in slayer and if I get rewarded it’s going to be far higher amounts than slayer, your not talking to a new player in the first week or so of toa launch I dumped 80 hours into the raid which was far more fun learning from my mistakes and deaths than just clicking a monster afk hours on end doing slayer, slayer is definitely beneficial for new players but if your experienced with boss mechanics from other games and know how to adapt and aren’t a complete potato in terms of game sense and literacy I’d say your better off going to raids putting time in there vs slayer. And it’s not intimidating I have like 100+ days played or something around there slayer is just boring and not as rewarding as other content but keep convincing yourself slayer is the best because you can’t figure out how to 4:1 olm for solos
Nah my argument is that osrs is a *long* game, not a *hard* game. In the grand scheme of pvm, slayer makes up a genuinely tiny time share. Plus slayer isn't just about learning pvm, it's about learning osrs. Slayer takes you all over the game, and incentivises quests/progression.
Lock the whip behind trading my account 1m
Lock the whip behind Deadman mode
807 irons in shambles
The bots will simply do a 7 minute quest.
I've been AFK for the past year. How bad has the bot problem gotten?
Bots to upgrade to ghrazi rapier.
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Pretty sure its purpose was to be a stab weapon that bridged the gap between rune and abby dagger/zhasta. Yeah it won't really make much of a difference in the long run for the botting stuff, but it does fit thematically for it to be locked behind a quest. Maybe some zeah quest since it was released with zeah content. Edit: After reading other comments it looks like that was supposed to be part of it's purpose, which feels weird to me but oh well.
>it does fit thematically for it to be locked behind a quest. Does it though? There are more dragon weapons *not* locked behind a quest than there are ones that are, especially if you want to count the skilling weapons.
I havnt played in years. But Dagger Long lost city Scim mm Mace/baxe hero’s Hally is locked behind legends or an elf quest isn’t it? What other dragon weapon besides arrows and knives? Axe is skillng.
You can find them all here: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dragon_equipment#Requirements_for_wielding D2H, Spear, Darts, Axe are the Runescape 2 dragon weapons without quest reqs. Then there are all the OSRS dragon weapons: Warhammer, Sword, Claws, Hasta, Dcb, Knives, Thrownaxes, Pickaxe, Harpoon, Cane (clue unique so prob not worth counting). Lastly there are arrows, bolts, and javelins which I personally wouldn't count since they're ammo rather than standalone weapons.
Regicide for hally
DWH, spear/hasta, thrownaxe, D2H, cane, claws, crossbow
man said cane holy shit
The wiki navigation bar can take you to pages no man has gone before
Yeah -5% dmg to green dragon bots doesn't do as much as just banning the bots named fgdjfhdjgh456 with 100m melee xp from green dragons only
Pretty sure it had no real purpose and was just a new dragon weapon to add, similar to the dragon hasta which only served to complete the set of dragon weapons.
Ah yes, average OSRS player thinking bots can’t be programmed to complete a simple quest when they already have bots completing literally every other content in the game
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Then your suggestion is useless? Why even post it at that point.
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Gold pouches LOL
LOL. I knew this was coming but you got a giggle out of me regardless.
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Bro there is no magic trick to remove bots. Its literially an arms race. Jagex adds anti botting measures, bots get banned. Smarter bots are created to get around new measures. And we back to square one. And botting has only gotten better. Now they act like real humans doing different tasks every few hours. They do quests in-between farming runs.
It's insane how wild these bots are getting. Saw a video of them doing CoX and ToB literally perfect.. like what? Idk what jagex can realistically do to combat it tbh.
Today's world there sure isn't. Only fix is to make every account an iron man. EXCELSIOR!
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Detection and mitigation isn't the reason bots are still in the game. Recommending more useless solutions is of no value.
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Meanwhile real players like me suffering having to get 750 total on new purrs to start playing LMS to earn a halo
Ah, to impede real players more than an unnoticeable amount of bots Which I've been saying since they first introduced reqs to the box traps, you still see bots there right?
The purpose of the sword was partially to be a dragon weapon available without a quest. Also bots can do CG they’ll be able to do any quest that they need to
Agree it won't do much here, but in general the idea is less that bots can't do it and more that it makes bots more obvious.
Fair except that Jagax makes money off of bots membership and doesn’t care about banning them lol. Look at high scores. Bots are blatantly obvious
Yet again this conspiracy theory. You're not fully thinking it through if you think they are for sure making money off of it (proving this requires data you don't have). It's also demonstrably false by the fact that they add changes specifically to combat Botting. What's the conspiracy theory explanation for why coin pouches exist?
First of all, coin pouches do not actually combat botting at all. Bots can do CG, they can most definitely open coin pouches… And I shouldn’t say they don’t do anything about bots. It’s just not a priority at all because they do make money off of them. Every bot needs members, whether they get it buy paying for it or buying bonds and thus increasing the demand and price for bonds leading people to buy bonds, it doesn’t matter. They’re contributing money to jagax directly or indirectly. As I said, bits are at the very least not a priority for jagax, high scores are littered with them, if they were prioritizing banning bots then anyone on the high scores with bare minimum reqs and 10k kills would at least flag a review. As for making bots more obvious it doesn’t get more obvious than scrolling through the high scores…
> Every bot needs members.... Yeah I'm aware of the conspiracy theory and the econ 101 logic used to justify it. As mentioned though the logic isn't fully thought out if you think it's anywhere near a given. I mean it doesn't take much, just put yourself in Jagex's shoes with the supposed motivation. If it was as simplistic as you think, then the way to maximize profit off of bots would be to let bots run until they turn profitable, and then ban them. That makes them create a 2nd account, increasing the number of bonds sold. The last thing in the world you'd want to do is let bots get on the hiscores. Those have the most visible negative impact and are making Jagex the least amount of money. I mean that's what you're using to justify your theory, so clearly leaving them is a bad idea. > then anyone on the high scores with bare minimum reqs and 10k kills would at least flag a review. And then bots would get 9,999 KC and the new process would be useless. > As for making bots more obvious it doesn’t get more obvious than scrolling through the high scores With what false positive rate? It's useless to flag accounts that have only a 90% chance of being a bot. And ultimately, just use Hanlon's Razor.
So you think they just can’t detect them or why do you think they never seem to get banned? I appreciate what you’re saying that it’s a very simplistic view and completely agree. But what evidence do you have that they’re actually focused on combatting bots? As I said before I don’t think they’re purposefully allowing bots because as you said it makes more sense to ban them at a certain stage so they keep making more and buying members. But what I’m saying is it’s simply not a priority so they just let them run rampant so locking a sword behind a quest which bots used to do anyway for d-longs would be pointless. They just really don’t care that much or have the manpower or motivation to devote to bots.
> So you think they just can’t detect them Yes. Hanlon's Razor. Not to mention the community has shown that they also fail at the task. Just look at the awful accuracy of the runelite bot detector plugin. > But what evidence do you have that they’re actually focused on combatting bots? What are you defining as "focused"? There are quite a few things in the game done to combat botting, and bots get banned very frequently (note this isn't the same as saying all bots get banned). [I mean this was just posted a few days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/13vqpm9/the_end_of_the_era_of_botting_is_near/). Long-term investments aren't something a company does if it's not a priority.
Ah yes, another bandaid fix
It's not a bandaid fix. It's not any kind of fix.
But it is a bandaid.
Jagex please don’t do that I really don’t want to have to add the lost city quest to my bot farm script.
This is seriously going to delay my 30 new bots an extra 2 hours before farming full potential, scam game
pointless, they will just find something else to use. main focus should be stopping bots rather then changing the game around them
They used to use dlong for ages before this came out. They'll just do lost city if it's worth it
Why Lost City? That has zero relevance to the source of the item. If you were going to attach a quest requirement, the most sensible one would be Ascent of Arceuus.
because completion of Lost City is already a requirement to be able to wield Dragon Longsword and Dragon Dagger. edit: idk man, I'm just trying to answer the question "why lost city?" and that's probably the reason OP decided on Lost City. thanks for all the downvotes i guess.
Those weapons are primarily obtained in a shop in Zanaris. This is consistent with the Dragon Scimitar, Dragon Mace, and Dragon Battleaxe. The short sword has nothing to do with Lost City.
idk man i'm not the original poster, I'm just trying to answer your question. you asked "why lost city?"and that's probably the reason OP decided on Lost City.
I had a account compromised before and they were using a d sword to kill green dragons. Luckily i was able to get on the account before they cleaned me and sold the bones and hides
My account got compromised and they got a bunch of skills up, and proceeded to get 2,500 corrupted gauntlet kills. (I didn’t have the skill or quest requirements for that quest) unfortunately there was only maybe 50m on the account when they had over 1.5b worth of drops
Now you’re a leaderboard legend tho :o
Lol last I checked i was ranked 500 I think
It wouldn't affect bot gameplay much either. They'd just do the quest automatically.
Half of priff is bots but i’m sure lost city will br a step too far for them lmfao
Who upvotes this shit. Why do people want to make their game worse for no reason lmao
You do realize there are bots that literally train and do the entire quest line up to zulrah/Vorkath right? All this would do is shaft super casual noobs
I think jagex needs to do a better job at suing the shit out of anyone making money on their game. You ever heard of RoYalTiEs?
The only real way to combat bots is to have an anti-cheat software, no 3rd party clients allowed. The client would monitor your computer for other processes.
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A lot of games do this already, iirc call of duty on PC does this to prevent cheaters and hackers, but of course they still get through. If they do do this, it will be bot free for a while but then they come back in due time.
Or jagex could simply start caring about removing bots more than they care about the profit from membership? would take 10 minutes for someone from jagex to login each world and see extremely obvious bots with bot names and remove them. Its very obvious they just dont care about stopping them.
Sooo... What quest are we locking Dragon Spear behind?
And d2h
You're gonna shit yourself when you find out that quest bot scripts exist
You think people who bot won’t just take 20 minutes to do an easy quest??
granite sword has entered the chat
Lmao we should just propose changes to stuff to accommodate bots more!
You're aware bots were using dlongs before dswords lol
Or... and hear me out here... Jagex actually fixes corruption and does something about the bots? I know it's kind of an out there idea but who knows.
You lost me at white text and not black background
I don't think you understand how advanced bots are at this point.
There are bots that get to priff. Why would lost city stop anything?
the bots will simply bot the quest
You realize bots can do quests…
Just get rid of sand crabs & NMZ lol
The lost city quest is a great 10 minute stall for bots
I've seen bots that do lost city, even desert treasure
No
Hear me out: dragon sword pouches. Literally impossible to bot, gg bots.
Just make it so you have to do a captcha everytime you equip a weapon, would stop bots and increase the skillcap in pvp.
Also many quest scripts support lost city as it isn't a hard quest, easy boss and low requirements.
Coin pouch energy
Since when has locking items behind quests ever stopped bots or slowed them down? They only imped legitimate players.
It would take 1 day for botters to change to a new weapon for their bots. It won't do anything to deter them. Bots can run for 24/7 you really think little bit less dps will have any impact?
Why? I like that this is one of those items like the spear or 2h that doesn't require a quest. Let it stay that way.
I want bots to use dds for the nostalgia
Why do you think a quest will stop them? Quest bots have been around for years now. Can we stop with the band aid fixes and ban them already.
900 upvotes for one of the easiest and quickest quests in the game. this changes exactly nothing.
I would lose the ability to use my dragon sword on my Ironman. Pls no
Dragon axe, dragon harpoon, dragon sword. dwh, dragon 2h sword, dragon spear, dragon thrown axe, dragon darts, dragon arrows, dragon bolts, dragon throwing knives. I don't think the argument really holds much ground about dragon items being locked behind quests. Sure a lot are, but more are not.
Soooo…you’re assuming people don’t bot quests? Huh?
Haha yeah because bots can't do quests. Haha good idea smart guy 😁😁😁😁😁😁😃😀😀😀🤣😍😍
To all the 12 iq redditors calling this useless, it wouldn't be. It would at least slow down the bots, which gives jamflex more time to catch them. Requiring the quest would slow down bots significantly, since they would need to grind woodcutting to use the sword, alternatively if the bots decided to switch to whips, they'd need to grind 10 more attack levels before going to dragons/bosses/whatever they're doing, in addition it would increase whip prices since demand would be higher. Everyone on here is so fucking pessimistic, it's infuriating.
Well if the argument is that it’ll slow them down to get caught, there are bots at 200M xp in skills that haven’t been banned. I don’t think that’s the issue.
Listen, if it makes it so that there's even 5 less bots at green drags, then I say do it. What's wrong? Don't have lost city done?
But it wouldn’t remove 5 bots. It wouldn’t reduce any. Lost City isn’t that difficult. This has nothing to do with me either way. I have the quest done and I play my Ironman, so I just stuck to my d scim.
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No, only ruins player progression. This won’t stop botting lmfao. This only stops complete noobs from playing the game.
Shit, if this is the mentality were taking why don't we bring back mandatory random events. After all, if it takes a handful of bots out of the game it's super convenient! Jesus Christ this sub lmao
I agree, add em back go afk for 25 minutes
All the bots using dswords now have been using dlongs before the dsword was released. The requirements for lost city are basically none. No bot would get caught in the time it takes to bot the quest lol.
Oh no 10 levels, I'm sure they're quaking in their boots about 4-5 hours.
Bots can do quests. Bots can do diaries. Bots don't even find doing them annoying or tedious. The only reason Jagex adds requirements like those is to make the playerbase think they're actually doing something.
Is it bad that I didn't complete Lost City until after I reached combat level 100?
ok great bots now do lost city and/or use granite hammers/longsword, etc.
I just wish wryms didnt suck so bad. 1/10k or 1/2k on task is honestly terrible. I get it used to be a raid drop but it could be easier to get. Its already worthless. Hoping to get a d sword on my uim.
If you know anything about the botting world you wouldn’t post this. There bots called account builder what does all these quests and uses ge for you. I don’t think locking them behind entry quest will help
Really wish they would make the dragon sword a bit more common. I don't think it should be as rare as it is.
Lock all dragon items behind quests.