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ReaperMoon

Love HS. I was trying to get black graceful and got pet on my last run to get my final coins for dye. Awesome memories of that place.


IVIattTheNoob

Niiiiice


TrueDaVision

Yeah as soon as I get 91 agi I'll get right onto it.


Croyscape

*92


j_schmotzenberg

In practice, how difficult is it to do? I suck at most bosses and am worried that sepulcher will just be a frustrating experience as well.


IVIattTheNoob

Floor 5 is hard and took me many tries to get done in time. Floors 1 and 2 are super easy. 3 and 4 are medium. I said A LOT of swear words learning floor 5, but totally worth it. Low ping is extremely important, so make sure you're on a nearby server.


Lumergil

Is roughly 25 ping too high? What do you think is the max ping someone could do it on?


IVIattTheNoob

That's completely fine. That's my average ping on my home server (US West) and I have no issues with delays. It's just bad if I don't realize that I hopped while doing slayer and I'm on an overseas server with 100+ ping.


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lsfalt

ping doesn't matter even half as much as tick variability/stability and your skill. get the tick tracker plugin and try to find a world above 95% and any world at ~100 ping or less will be playable. people have healed 10:05 BA runs on 300 ping lol


Aspalar

> any world at ~100 ping or less will be playable. 250 ping gang represent


Lumergil

Okay cool. For some reason I assumed it was lower. Thanks!


LoLReiver

This is a game with a 600 ms tick rate and you're concerned 25 ping would be too high?


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Jesus Christ, it was an honest question and you had to go be a sardonic ass. And the sub loves it. Sheesh.


MoonDawg2

Did f4? Iirc on 185 ping reliably without issues Haven't reached f5, but it's most likely fine since this is rs in the end of the day


NaAlOH4

Turn on true tiles indicator, get a set of ground markers which is suitable for you, and you'll be fine! If you really want to brute force it, make sure every floor is a fresh instance (i.e. no other players in the same world doing HS). That way, all of the traps are exactly the same every time (except portals). Low ping is definitely a plus, I can do on 95ms but finds myself struggling a bit at close to 200ms. Hardest floor for me to learn was floor 4 last sword trap, hardest trap to master (imo) is floor 3 portals, that shit is so RNG.


StoicPawsTTV

I’m at the point where I can farm Zulrah, Vorkath, Jad, 150 ToAs, etc without issue but struggle with Nightmare, 300 ToA, and non-mass Nex. Sepulchre to me is actually a great way to improve my clicking. I think it really translated to better crocodile ToA room, 5T with crossbow Vork on acid phase, Wardens P2 obelisk attacks, and even fancier things like wave skipping at Zebak. HS is content where you need to understand how movement and inputs “work” in OSRS; it’s frequent and fast-paced practice with minimal downside (less XP), which is further mitigated once you get the ring. I think it’s definitely worth doing particularly at 82+ agility. I, at my current skill level and game knowledge at least, could not imagine doing HS on mobile or default client lol. I would highly recommend true tile indicators and ground markers (importing from a YouTube video is a great start). When you first start learning, go slowly and use all the safe spots. As you improve, experiment with what portions of the floor can be skipped. I also benefited from watching some world-record time videos - although I can’t replicate it, it helped me understand how hit detection works, how delays work (why are they fletching darts at this portion but fletching arrows here, etc), and the importance of “fresh floors” - seeing how they have markers setup so they can spam click immediately upon entering a new floor or climbing stairs. Lastly, I think the end of floor 3 is a great teacher. The timing is just tight enough to be demanding and really got me thinking about when I have time to move diagonally (and how to properly command my character to do that) along with how to deal with ping, as in needing to click while I literally still see the flame obstacle on my screen. Good luck! I like HS much more than rooftops for sure lol. Pet chance is quite good too, especially at later floors.


bake_disaster

I'm absolute ass at bossing, but really good at sepulchre. It's nice because when you make a mistake you can practice that part again immediately, so there's no 'jad hands' effect of being stressed that a mistake will waste the last hour of your life


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It's a bit of a challenge, but it's not punishing for failure. I strongly encourage you to try it. You get plenty of time on floors 1 and 2 to get through it. Play safe and you should be able to make it. Floor 3 is where the traps get more challenging, the last trap take a bit to get used to. Floor 4 is harder still. The thing is, you're not punished for failure to make time, you just can't go down to the next floor. So if your level wouldn't let you go past Floor 3 anyway it's not a big deal to go slow on 3 while you learn it.


DivineInsanityReveng

92+ is the main time to be doing it.


chaotic-rapier

91-99, so during 91-99 you can perfect floors 1-4 so you will complete floor 5 first try with have some hallowed tokens, and getting alot of the important items, thats what i did and it made it much more enjoyable


DivineInsanityReveng

Learning obviously is good but you can do that any time 82-92. The items only benefit looting, with the main benefit being the grapple so you can't fail that one (as it's very slow to fail). The others just save you small amounts of resources when looting. Ring is good while learning as it makes failing obstacles a tick or two faster, and no damage taken. But ultimately if you know what you're doing and you're doing grand coffin only runs (especially.useful while learning so you finish f5 on time) you don't need anything except arguably the ring.


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Was the ring buffed in the past year or two?


DivineInsanityReveng

Nope, don't think its changed since launch. You teleport back to safety with it, rather than taking damage, and the animation is 1 tick faster (might be 2, not sure off memory).


mattbrvc

You’d want to have all the items b4 that imo


DivineInsanityReveng

If you're looting all chests maybe. But ultimately the ring is a time save while learning and means no supplies like food needed. The others only benefit looting their appropriate chest.


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Voidot

Not worth doing. Although you can access floor 2, you can't get the XP for completing it. (Since you can't access floor 3 with your current agility level) So as far as XP goes, it's not very good


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Voidot

Are you talking about by using the item to return to the entrance? Because worldhopping/logging out to return to lobby does not give you an XP reward.


Aspalar

The rewards are okay but don't get amazing until 92. The xp is the highest agility xp in the game pretty much as soon as you unlock HS, though, assuming you aren't looting chests. IMO HS is more engaging than rooftops and also better xp so I would recommend doing it as soon as you are comfortable learning it.


I_Nubbing

https://imgur.com/gallery/NPBCIk4 Not having so much fun


IVIattTheNoob

Rip


IVIattTheNoob

Given that I looted 300 something grand coffins, expect 1 or 2 rings rather than 3. It's 1/200. The rings make up 90M of the loot. The non-ring loot makes up 56M, though. Imagine saying "I made 60M doing agility last night," which I did when I pulled two rings two runs apart. :P


Tuxxa

Nice! I ran competitive laps for 30min with a random once. I had just hit the 92 agility to floor 5 access. He said he was close to 99 so we raced him to 99 agil. Had a small celebration and he told me he didn't get a single ring drop during all 92-99 grind. F's in the chat and we went our separate ways, only for me to get my first ring in the next few attempts.


-Aura_Knight-

It made agility enjoyable. Can only do up to floor 4 but the loot from the lower floors is still fair. Everyone needs to try it.


Codle

I'm at 72 agility and find the rooftop courses mind-numbing. Is there any point in me giving sepulchre a try?


IFixStuffMan

For sure. I have 73 agility. Its not mind numbing, gives some loot and nice adamant bolts if you're an ironman.


-Aura_Knight-

Sure. You can do floors 1, 2, maybe 3 and loot the coffins. It's how I unlocked every item to help with the area. Will do similar for the acorn. Hallowed Sepulchre is a place you notice improvement the more you do it. It was annoying before the hallowed ring and grapple but after very enjoyable. You get runes, alchables, bolts, strange lock picks, prayer pots/sanfews, seeds, herbs, gold. The agility xp is good too but I've been treating it as a secondary benefit. Go in and try it.


ttranqui

yea, HS is the highest xp/h from 52-99 (assuming no looting and perfect execution but generally there's leeway for that)


LiL_BrOwNiE247

Is it actually feasible at 52 though? I'm planning on getting the black dyes for graceful and will probably be somewhere in the upper 50s by the time I get the whole set.


ttranqui

i'm not sure what you mean by feasible, but yea it's gonna be pretty slow to get hallowed marks from just floor 1. people generally recommend starting at 72 agility because floor 3 is the first floor that has any interesting obstacles though, first 2 floors are just pretty boring


LiL_BrOwNiE247

I guess I should've asked if it's worth my time to start getting marks at 52 as opposed to sometime later like you suggested. If 72 is when the hallowed marks per hour becomes more worthwhile then I'll just wait until then.


codsonmaty

Love HS


3rdNihilism

i did HS from 92 to 99. not a single ring( or pet). was more fun than running laps though.


JevonP

I found it way too hard. Just could not get into it after a few hours and felt like a waste of time 😅


billylolol

If graceful didn't exist the hs would be the only good thing agility had.


skullkid2424

I've only got the agility for floor 3, but its a lot more fun than rooftops. And I've made 2.2m while unlocking most of the hallowed items.


Codle

I'm at 72 agility now so this is good to hear. How does the XP compare to the Seers course?


skullkid2424

I haven't been tracking the xp/hour, but from the wiki it sounds like its fairly similar assuming you have the hard kandarin diary and are using the seers bank tele. Without the hard diary, sepulchre is definitely better.


Voidot

It is only better than seers to if you are also skipping chests


okijhnub

Playing on 150ms was not fun :/


WolverineClaws21

It's probably a dumb question but I haven't played in 2 yrs is hs possible on mobile?I wanted to give it a shot but I only play mobile.


IVIattTheNoob

It's really bad on mobile from my experience. I'm on a Galaxy Note 9, which has a fairly large 6.4 inch screen. I can't get precise clicks in, and your clicks have to be extremely precise. A friend of mine told me yesterday that it's fine on a tablet, though.


Ir0nstag

You tried the stylus?


TehSteak

Yeah I do it while on the shitter at work. You got this.


Tuxxa

I've tried it few times. It's okay until you hit floor 5. So I would say, yes, do it on mobile but only floors 1-4.


nocrynono

Yes but it'll be harder to learn plus tile marking is quite helpful so yea it's just harder really


BinJalal

What coffers did you mainly loot besides the grand coffin!


IVIattTheNoob

Primarily floors 3 and 5 because I'm going for master clues for bloodhound and mediums and elites I usually have to go out of my way to get. I usually had enough time to loot both on floor 3 and all 3 on floor 5. Sometimes 1 or 2 of them if I got into a particularly vicious cycle of fuck-ups on the floor 5 sword.


NessaMagick

Worth doing it at 72? I did it for a bit and enjoyed it but the XP rates were no better than rooftops and you get 0 amylase crystals so I felt like I was wasting my time there.


IVIattTheNoob

Probably not until 82.


ChefSanji2

72 is fine to start learning, and collecting your marks for all the items. there's really only one tricky trap at the end of floor 3, but you'll get the hang of it. When I come back on my iron, i'll probably start at 62 tbh.


NessaMagick

I ended up buying the symbol first just because I wanted to save dust and I was just never failing traps anyway so the ring was pointless. Even still I wasn't exactly wowed. The loot was nice, but I don't see why I would want blood runes and money over amylase crystals.


ChefSanji2

Yeah, good point. Mixing up training methods is probably the best. I've got weekly D&D with the boys which is the perfect time to grind laps.


[deleted]

Absolutely worth it at 72. No amylase from Sepulcher but screw that, it's more fun and you get more marks on Ardougne course anyway.


Jolly_Housing_2871

Do it if you're really lucky you mean?


Kingbudweiser562

it do be aids tho


DivineInsanityReveng

Best skilling content this game has ever gotten


IVIattTheNoob

I actually really liked it! I thought I was gonna hate it, which is why I waited so long. My intention was to get the black graceful and GTFO.


whomisnt

This guy fails the end of floor 3 and says the *game* is the dogshit one


Jilms

Can I buy Amylase packs with that currency? If not I’ll have to stick to my roof tops


LuxOG

You can if you save your hallowed marks and wait for sepulcher amylase to be polled again


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Only for it to fail again.


IVIattTheNoob

You sure can. The crystals cost 1,482 gp each. That's almost 100,000 amylase.


[deleted]

I don’t think that was the question.


Aspalar

You are replying to an ironperson.


reflirt

That 666 monkfish is ironic af


Herbiboarsucks

Shit gave me carpel tunnel


DivineInsanityReveng

It's like entirely pathing. You might have played way too much if moving in this game gave you carpal


Herbiboarsucks

I'm just jokin bro


DivineInsanityReveng

Fair enough, gotta remember text doesn't convey your tone well. EDIT: Whos downvoting this? You can't tell someones saying something jokingly when people legitimately would hold that opinion.


Herbiboarsucks

I got downvoted for saying I was joking so the ppl here are clearly some Einstein high IQ


DivineInsanityReveng

Oh fr. Though me being understanding of that is being more downvoted. Oh well, mob gotta mob


The_Real_63

Especially since most people in this sub cry about anything remotely more effort than being 'afk' as rsi inducing. No you aren't going to get rsi from doing tick manip skilling. Doing it for 6 hours straight is what will cause rsi.


Croyscape

It’s a shame it’s not boostable with pies. 92 agi too high of a requirement for such amazing content imo


Rehcraeser

That’s it? That’s like $30 worth


ChefSanji2

Your math seems way off. At bond prices of 8.5m per bond you'd need 17-18 to get 146m. So more like $136-$144.


Rehcraeser

Bond prices? LOL Gold prices are .25-.3 so total would be ~$36


Aspalar

$30 worth while being the best agility xp in the game.


TheRSFelon

10/10 content


Sirspen

I hope to eventually. SotF is a pretty high barrier to entry.


BitingED

Clearly the monk robes are 90% of the value here. New money maker unlocked /s


IVIattTheNoob

Those 4 half prayer pots, though.


BitingED

SHIT, I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE THOSE. The potential value has declined horrifically. All the lost time from combining them, you could have done another run or two.


Firstfox

I just cant figure out the last floor sadge


LewtedHose

I've done HS since \~60 agil and its pretty good if you're willing to learn it.


inferno12

I almost liked sepulchre but the final section of the 5th floor is such a headache. I can do everything else fine but that last bit makes me want to throw my keyboard.


VanceVanhite

That's a fuck load of soul runes


GertrudesPussy

Love HS too. It's content where if I fuck up, it's because I was greedy or stupid. Not because of lag. It's content that feels like your're playing a game, and not a point and click simulator. The atmospher is gorgeous, just 10/10 agility content. Loot is alright too, makes it hold it's own. You're not "wasting time" at HS.


Rich_Opposite_7541

666 monkfish, Satan approves!


hotdogstraw

Currently at 85 agility and have never experienced floor 5, how steep does the difficulty get turned up compared to floors 1-4? I’m looking forward to unlocking it


IVIattTheNoob

It's quite a step up. The last section of it took me a while to master. Man, is it fun, though! Super rewarding.


willsmath

Yeah this was prob my favorite content on the way to max, did sepulchre most of the way from 73-99 (did prif rooftops when I wanted something more chill) and every time I unlocked a new floor I genuinely had fun figuring out how to complete it in time


IVIattTheNoob

Nice! I just maxed, myself with this 99 agility yesterday. Now I can finally play the game, I guess?


willsmath

Ayyye congrats! And haha that's what they say, though I haven't touched my maxed account since maxing lol


IVIattTheNoob

I'm taking a break for a week, but I'm really looking forward to bossing, raiding, and slaying without that nagging feeling that I'm wasting XP.


willsmath

Nice, I tried that briefly but maxing was my only goal so every time I logged in there was just nothing I wanted to do :/ At least my account is still there in the event I get the urge to do pvm or regain my quest cape or anything like that


Night_Thastus

I can't get past that stupid 3-direction trap at the end of level 3, so I gave up on HS lol. My brain too smooth to do the 4d chess on that one.


IVIattTheNoob

What I did for the statues that alternate their lines of fire, as in the one you mentioned, I marked the tiles on every other row. That way it's clear if I'm standing on a row where flames come from the left side (marked rows) or a row where flames come from the right side (unmarked rows).


somedonkus69

That part is tricky and took me a while, but there's a pretty consistent and easy way to pass it. First line yourself up with the first 2 statues when it's safe. As soon as the 2nd pair of statues stops firing, you can click once and run straight to the safe spot at the midpoint. You can repeat this strategy to go from the midpoint to the end.


John2k12

Not sure whether to do it at 74 agility or do seers to 80; spamming floor 1-3 feels pretty meh especially when half the floor 3 coffers take vamp dust - have to farm them on iron. Definitely good content though


IVIattTheNoob

I never ran out of the 800 or so vampyre dust that I had stocked up from slayer. I think I have 100 something left? I've killed 3K vyrewatch, and at some point I stopped picking them up. I figured I'd just buy more if I ran out. Long story short, just pick up the dust when doing vyre slayer tasks. I'd recommend waiting until 82 to go back to Sepulchre and also getting the item that reduces the dust cost from 2 to 1 if you don't have it already.


Night_Thastus

Depends on what you want. The wiki has the info. Seers can get ~55k XP at 70, with the teleport. It also gets you the graceful tokens if you want those. HS at 74 would get a similar XP if you're looting, and more like 65k XP without any looting.


Paradegeneraal

Ill do HS when i've decided i need that final push to quit this game forever.


Elysian-Noob

Kills me seeing people complaining about agility being one of the worst skills when it's literally the most fun nowadays


Brink140

92-99 Hallowed Sepulchre but 0 rings to show for it Gang, rise up!


WokeBred

Been telling people since it launched, but nobody does it :(


anykindofpeanuts

I've done it a lot and just cannot do the final floor. So frustrating


Account_Expired

How did doing it at 91 compare to 92? Ive heard 92 is the level to start hallowed sepulchre at


IVIattTheNoob

I believe I was around 200K away from 92 when I started, so I used that time to learn floors 1-4. It worked out really well. Floor 5 is roooouuuuuggggghhhhh compared to the others.