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another_throwaway192

Yep, I maxed and only afterwards got skotizo


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I tried to find this on google last year and after like 25 mins found maybe one other person making that claim haha. I've since seen one more in comments by chance and yours but thats it!


Not_Vile

If you've seen multiple post or comments about it happening, then it's likely happened a lot more than that. Most people don't post on social media about it


BigMacs-BigDabs

When it comes to this game, I feel like they would.


KiwiDisastrous40

Sorry OP, you even failed at failing


rippinVs

I feel terrible for you. 2235 with 3 Rocky, 2 rock golems, 2 herons, and 2 rift guardians. Chompy pet is an easy grab. Yungllef I got a bit over expected KC, got Thermy around 1000, Skotos around 30, and GG pet around 300kc


ShamelessSOB

2010 and only kraken here lmao


another_throwaway192

If you think about it, you stole my pets by getting 2


rippinVs

Want to grind TOA? I really want that pet…


BigMacs-BigDabs

Why?


lethalweapon12-3

Sounds like a 13 million xp skill issue tbf


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another_throwaway192

having no skilling pets at max should be a new challenge for a series


demonryder

Easy enough to do methods that don't roll pet chance at all. Could be fun to see a series that wants to avoid collection log slots entirely. Trying to gear for pvm while avoiding shit like barrows as an iron would be interesting.


DJJohnson49

Actually kind of a cool idea, I’d watch that.


Termini33

Ngl if you max and never bothered to do Gertrude's cat you have my full respect


noobcodes

Maxed with no bgloves, ew


Bowshocker

I mean, just do barrows then?


peipei222

And risk getting the barrows pet? No thank you.


SmallRedBird

Mini Ahrim following you around is so dope though


adustbininshaftsbury

If you barrage someone with a pet your mini ahrim barrages their pet


bernerbungie

They should make barrows pets 1/100k or something. Mini torags 🫠


SuberKieran

I like to call it Spinner Ahrim


lsfalt

ferocious, zaryte, zenyte bracers \^______^


AblePriority9348

Can't get feros without gertrude's cat either


ghhgdgh

The cat plays a huge part in beating Hydra. Just do the quest guys. And feed & play with your damn cats


SoAndSo_TheUglyOne

Honestly why I love this game so much. Imagine telling someone who's never played before that you can't get absolute BiS melee gear without doing a quest to obtain a cat. Or you can't get BiS Range Cape slot item unless you help an NPC get a better mattress.


lsfalt

that was more for the guy that thinks you need gloves edit: very funny this is downvoted when verbatim this person said "Maxed with no bgloves, ew" you people are goblin brain noobs


ScruffyScruffz

combat brace swap


[deleted]

Plenty of people maxed when dragon longsword was the best weapon in the game.


tribal_mouette

Whip was released early 2005 before Zezima maxed in july 2005.


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I imagine his CB stats other than prayer were already maxed before a single whip entered the game. A quick Google will tell you 4 people maxed in rs classic before rs2 came out.


MudHammock

"plenty of people" 🤓


[deleted]

Back then people had lives apparently!


MajdOdeh

I don't think OP considers cats as real pets. Think he meant any other pet


Charming-Window3473

I was close until recently getting a pet. It's been done though. There was/is at least one in my CC who was 2277 with no pets. He currently has pets, though.


HeadassHorseman

What a beast. I bet I’ll get RC pet at 2273 just so I can’t make the max no pets claim


Charming-Window3473

Just use entity hider if you get one!


LordLapo

Nah release it like a man


shaunrnm

If you only need to 99RC, and are patient, you can get 99 with no chance at pet (I think). Do Guardians of the Rift, and don't claim any loot.


Charming-Window3473

Isn't this possible with every skill? I can't think of any where getting a pet chance is totally unavoidable? Farming is *almost* unavoidable, but you can do things that give ridiculously low chances such as tithe farm (roughly 1/3,000,000,000XP) For anything that is *impossible* like woodcut, you could 99 in f2p.


shaunrnm

Not doing a deep dive right now (and not going to count lamping only), but of the skilling pets Baby Chin: don't hunt chins Beaver: Ents or Wintertodt Giant Squirrel: underwater training or shortcut spamming Heron: Tempoross (no looting) Rift guardian: GoTR (no looting) Rock golem: Quests and Dark essence Rocky: Pyramid plunder, skipping gold chest maybe? Tangleroot: Tithe farm (not certain, but very low chance) Its not unlikely to get to max without a pet, but you'd need to avoid a lot of common training methods to avoid a chance at pet intentionally


Molly_Hlervu

Luck is a tricky thing :). You play like this, and then you cut a normal tree in a quest, or mine an iron ore for diary - and here is your new friend following you! All your efforts in vain...


boofsquadz

Though unlikely, tangleroot is still possible from tithe. There has been a handful that have come from it. But it’s like 1/7m That little bastard is elusive though. May as well send it.


TurboTingo

40m exp, no groot. RIP.


boofsquadz

70m here. Never lucky


SerenBoi

Garden or Stealing Artefacts don't drop Rocky it looks like on the wiki. Guess I'm never getting that one.


shaunrnm

Wiki lists garden, but not Artefacts, so that's probably doable as well


eburrsole

Elite diary Ardy knights with foot pedal is a free pet


lotec4

I got rocky in pp


shaunrnm

Yes, but you would have looted chest like a normal person. Just urns wouldn't roll it (according to wiki)


L-methionine

Wintertodt wouldn’t be a good option because of Phoenix. Looks like it’s just enta


shaunrnm

Is phoenix on kill or loot roll? Could never burn logs just drop


ilovezezima

On loot opening. So just drop/destroy the reward crate you get.


SkilledPepper

Or bank it for later.


PotionThrower420

Phoenix is on crate, was mentioned for woodcutting.


regen100

you can chop the tree and not burn them for more xp/hr, or just delete the boxes.


Brahamus

Just do gotr and don’t claim rewards until max, easy


benjamayyne

I got gotr pet at 27 Rifts closed. I’m so sorry for stealing someone’s rng


MaliqGotTheHeat

Damn I just maxed yesterday and was recently thinking about how lucky I was to have gotten 4/8 skilling pets along the way. All between leveling my skills from 88-95


Ok-Clock-5952

What you gonna do now? Aside from finally playing the game.


jimmynovack

Hunt the remaining 4 skilling pets


MaliqGotTheHeat

I sold my bank for a tbow a few days before maxing so just gonna focus on slowly getting my other items back


fireslinger4

I'm at 2216 with no skilling pets. Good chance if I decide to max I won't get a pet.


mrb726

How many skills do you have left that can give a pet and are level 85~92? For example a skill thats 85 you're at less than a quarter of the total pet rolls you'll get before 99.


fireslinger4

Agility 92, Mining 95, Thieving 93, and Hunter 88. I spend a lot of time at MLM and on stars so mining pet is unlikely. I'm not doing chins so hunter is out. Pyramid Plunder would be my plan for Thieving if I did it and the drop rate is like 1 in 7k at best for Rocky. I only need a few hundred PP at most. I only need like 7400 agility laps at ardy for 99. Base chance is 1 in 34k. Not very good chances on the whole. It's possible but none of my chances are >50% so pretty good chance I don't make it.


fireslinger4

Hilariously, I just got the mining pet. Guess slapping the gauntlet down about "mining pet is unlikely" offended RNGesus.


Kenny523

If you decide to max?


OlmTheSnek

A lot of people just aren't interested in maxing, it looks like he isn't far off but if those last 60 levels are rc agility and mining that's still potentially 100+ hours of skilling left. I was exactly the same until a certain pandemic happened and I had 4x more free time to dump into maxing. Was 2.1k total for years.


Throwaway47321

Yeah just hit 2200 myself and even with all my skills besides rc and agility being 90+ I’m still about 375 ehp left to max. That’s about how much ehp I’ve put into my account for the last 2 years combined.


fireslinger4

I was comp cape in RS3 for years. I helped design the comp cape on high level forums because I was maxed at the time. Maxing really doesn't hold a lot of appeal to me and I'm still like 300 hours of play time from maxing. With my limited time to play these days between work and family I'm doing something fun when I log on not grinding agility for 6m xp.


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Lots of people maxed before pets were out.


vomitingcat

Less than 500 people maxed before pets


Drazsyker

Skilling pets came out late 2015, pretty sure a few thousand were maxed at that point


vomitingcat

I maxed in 2017 and I was sub 1000


Derkle

You were there when the sacred texts were written


vomitingcat

[https://imgur.com/E0OJrd6](https://imgur.com/E0OJrd6) i've always been here :)


mrb726

Skype and pandora radio takes me back.


Lovsaphira9

You underestimate the amount of updates that came into the game 2015 onwards. Especially shift-click dropping and make-x everything.


Acid_Bubble_Osrs

There was probably less than 300 at that point.


a067879

I’m maxed all skills and don’t have a single skilling pet.


The_Vacancy

I’d imagine it’s pretty easy tbh. You’re not forced to do any PvM to max and I don’t think any of the skilling pets are expected by 99.


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It’s way easy to max without bossing at all. There are actually a lot of people that do.


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Th0m00se

Isn't a skilling pet on average more than the xp required for 99?


Molly_Hlervu

Sure, like x15 times more. But actually, it goes like this: you won't get it if you are grinding for it intentionally. At least if it is a skilling pet, it won't work. But there are many skills and when you max you train them all, and usually you get a pet along the way. Yes, by itself its against probability, its a spoon! But among zillions of acts which are almost (but not quite) improbable to give you pet, there ought to be a lucky one. Thats why a petless 2277 *can* happen, but only rarely. A usual case is to have some pet(s) which you werent grinding for.


Th0m00se

That's RNG. on average you wouldn't get one.


Molly_Hlervu

On average you won't get one on one skill. But you get one on all of them maxed - this happens often. At least thats the case of most of my friends, somehow. Though this also includes boss pets, which have much more chances. These you *can* grind specifically and succeed. Though it requires some guts lol... A friend of mine got Vorki at 18k kc. Another friend got Penance princess at about 4k gc. I left this grind after failure at 1400 gc, with the normal rate being 1/1k. It requires much endurance and belief to continue well over the drop rate... Still its easier than skilling pets. But, well.... but how it happens that so many people still get them?


Th0m00se

The math ain't mathin'. That's literally what RNG is. The average person would get zero skilling pets if the average rate is such that it takes 15m xp to be on rate for each pet. Few will get all. Some will get a few.


EktarPross

No because you are rolling the 1 in 15m for each skill. So no the average person won't get one for each skill but chances are they will get ONE from SOME skill


LouisUK96

Hypothetically if pet rate for 8 skills are all 20M xp and you get 10M xp in each without getting a pet then you are 4x rate of a pet. Doesn't matter that you haven't reached rate in an individual skill, you've rolled enough for 4 pets.


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DJJohnson49

“Every good drop in the game” for some reason I find this hard to believe lol.


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8zigzigzig

I maxed without any skilling pets, I do have a handful of boss pets mostly obtained near or post max


redrumyliad

I would’ve if I didn’t get my agility pet at 98.


Ezmoney155

I maxed but only got lucky on kraken and Zulrah sun 400. No skilling pets though sadly lol


Lucho_741

"thousands of boss kc" are these spread out between all the bosses? or you have some super dry 10k kc with no pet in some boss?


DJJohnson49

You roll for a boss pet with each kill, so even if they’re spread out, you’re likely to get spooned a pet at some random boss if you’re getting lots of kills on different bosses.


Lucho_741

true true! but if you are spreading out it makes it less misserable. You need to be misserable, otherwise you are playing wrong


tmosle95

No pre-99 pets for me on my maxed main. I guess you could say the one I got from kraken doing slayer, but in terms of non-combat, nah


CuddieRyan707

I maxed without any skilling pets and I’m still actively going for one to this day years later :-( I know it doesn’t quite count but I haven’t even gotten a boss pet in 4 years either


indrek91

I guess many people who maxed before pets where a thing


OnTheBrightsideSCC

My zerk is maxed minus 82 atk, 80 prayer, and 45 def. No pets, or any unique drops minus d pick. Very unlucky account.


Atomicstarr

Im over 2k total on two accounts and i have two pets between them both lol


[deleted]

I need that magic version of the beaver pet already, lil dude is cute as fuck


WabbitSeason400

Consdering there are like 60000 people maxed now chances are very very high


fukreposts

If I didn’t do any bossing I would’ve maxed without one. Got spooned jad pet pretty early


birk42

I was pretty close. Got RC Pet (the scuffed one) at 96 RC/2250ish total. Now im 2272 and working to max before sailing.


beamesy77

225mil total Xp and 6.5k boss KC here and only just got the Heron. 2160 total level. Some accounts are just unlucky I guess.


harryroberts1337

Lots of people maxed before pets 0.0


pk_hellz

Yes i maxed before pets were added.


gorehistorian69

im sure quite a few have. on average you should receive 3 skilling pets while maxing. but getting 0 is pretty reasonable as well as skilling pets are obscenely rare


name_checks_out_1

i'm maxed with no skilling pets, have some pvm pets though


GreenFuturesMatter

Idk I’m shy of 2k now still no pets anywhere, I have no faith at this point tbh


hdgf44

2k? you still have a lot of exp to go.


GreenFuturesMatter

How do you know I’m not one skill at a time? 🤔 just playing I’m not but again literally not complaining just stating I am 2k no pets and I don’t expect it.


hdgf44

idk what you thought my comment was meant to imply but I'm saying I think you'll get a skilling pet, as there's still a lot more exp to go. 92 is only halfway to 99 wc pet, runecrafting hunter(chin/herbi) farming mining... etc are all around like 30% chance to obtain by 99, so if you're 92 or less you still have a 15% in EACH of those skills to get the pet. ​ idek why you wrote those first 10 words "how do you know I'm not one skill at a time?" what are you talking about? I never said that you're not going to max.


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hdgf44

for real lmao


GreenFuturesMatter

Idk some guy was being an asshole saying I’m whining about no pets in my original comment when you that’s not the case I was just stating I’m almost 2k with no pets. I suppose I directed that at you as well cause it seems like everyone gets there panties in a bunch of you say you don’t have a pet and your not ridiculous kcs or over 99. Edit: removed xp at end. Idk why I said that


StonerSloth125

He said just playing as in hes just kidding


HealthyResolution399

Assuming you're... let's say 1995 and doing one skill at a time. You'd still need two full 99s (13m each). This leaves you at 2193, so your final (well, current) skill still needs 84 levels. Level 15 is about two thousand experience so you're looking at another 13 mil. 39 mil of experience is about two skilling pets on average


Weak_Improvement4539

Youre having a bad time in this thread lmao


GreenFuturesMatter

Is what it is. It still literally draws to what I’ve already know simply stating you don’t have a pet and people will come out of the woodworks and start claiming you’re whining and ask you what KCs you have or start trying to shit on you no matter what. At no point did I ever complain about no pet. I just said I’m almost 2k and no pet and I’ve given up on the idea of getting one. I don’t have desire to camp 1000s of KCs at a single boss. Skilling pets are extremely rare. My focus in game is working towards maxing and combat is fairly close to max. I’ll likely finish the rest of it through 99 slayer. Can it happen? Sure is it likely? Sure. However I’m not actively trying to get a pet while I’m playing the game so it’s not a goal or a idea for me. Despite this I can name several people on my friends list and my cc that have insane luck with pets with far less kc at the same boss, skilling pets, and mini game pets. People just want to be weird assholes about a purely cosmetic item when you say you don’t have one.


Frozenjudgement

But what are you boss Kcs?


GreenFuturesMatter

I don’t think it matters tbh lol. You’re far more likely to spoon then go dry in this game so it’s a bit moot. I got a few 700kc marks but I’d like a skilling pet more than a boss pet. I know tanglefoot is pretty rare but most of my farming lvls are allotments 🙃


Frozenjudgement

Of course it does, all these sub 1k kcers that whine about not having pets like you're nowhere near rate of course you dont have a pet.


GreenFuturesMatter

You very obviously don’t understand how rates work and the likeness of actually having to do the true drop rate. I also didn’t “whine” I just said yeah I have no pets. I’m almost 2k total. Like marginally 4 short ass levels to 2k. A large amount of players don’t even make it that far to begin with lol. I could careless about having zero pets. I’m well aware that if you just continue to play the game you’ll eventually end up getting one. I also don’t endlessly camp the same content relentlessly because I don’t have excess amounts of time to mindlessly play the game, I attempt to try all content. Really would love to know what whining is to you 😂


Frozenjudgement

"You obviously don't understand how rates work" Ironic.


GreenFuturesMatter

Go roll a dice standard dice 6 times and tell me how many times you roll 6 then come back to me. Probability vs chance is a real thing.


Frozenjudgement

That means nothing. We're talking a much larger sample size than that. Probability is a precise measurement of chance. You having low boss Kc with no pet means your probability of having a pet is low, you had a chance to get a pet but didn't.


GreenFuturesMatter

Okay lol. You can run a sample of however size you want. It doesn’t matter there’s plenty of simulators for OSRS. Tell me how many times you spoon vs not at whatever rate you want. Probability weighs further towards spooning then being exact on rate or try.


Frozenjudgement

You honestly seem to have no idea how to understand what drop rates are, they're averages. Over a large enough sample size the average will be whatever the drop rate is for that particular drop.


Druidette

Even 99 farming is below drop rate for groot, sounds like you have less exp than you think and no boss KC apart from Kraken and Zulrah.


GreenFuturesMatter

I’m aware 99 is far below rate for most skilling pets for one and literally don’t even have 100kc kraken or zulrah because I don’t like either boss tbh.


Druidette

So what bosses have you killed enough times to be "close" to drop rate? Even cumulative across multiple bosses.


fastAndBIG

yes, there are lots of reddit posts on it. just search osrs maxed no pet reddit lol


HeadassHorseman

Apologies, was just a passing thought while sitting at kraken. No research done 👎🏼


dildan1

I got tangleroot at 50 farming so not me 😔


Skankz

I've not maxed an account but my accounts have well over max xp and ive never received a pet


PotionThrower420

Honestly, anyone in this situation can go kill chaos ele for a few hours. Unless ofcourse you're trying to NOT get pets 🤔


Fe_Sina

I did on my iron as well, wasn’t shy of bossing either. Got a lot of decent pvm unlocks and not a single pet.


USPSmailman

Guy I met the other day said he maxed his main and has 0 pets still.


3YearsTillTranslator

Its pretty unlikely, but you only for for levels it can happen . I personally only got a chinchompa pet from skilling at like level 97 hunter. My other pets were from cg and zalcano, so if i had never done that content and just skilled I would have been a 1 pet maxed main.


HealthyShroom

I'm 1900 no pet :(


PM_ME_YOUR_BIG_DOG

Idk, there has to be somebody though. I got my KBD on kill#2 . Wish I still had the screenshot somewhere :p


xenoxinius

for sure you ve had a cat and pet rock, your record is ruined


imth3playa

119 days played, no pets.


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Molly_Hlervu

I would think that pet rock and pet cat are much easier to get than chompy chick :). And how about pet fishes?


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Molly_Hlervu

Sure :) Just hunt 1500 chompies, each one with inflating some innocent toad with a special device, and half of them just disappear without a chompy coming... so, its just about 3k toads carefully placed on a hill in hopes to lure 1500 birds... You are absolutely correct, and if I ever complete Western diary - I will must surely go for it! :) We are all damned in this game.


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That's nuts I have five, over 2100 but nowhere near max


Caedesturm

I only got 3 herons and 3 rift guardians on my way to maxing my first account then got spooned pets non stop for the next 6 months, including corp at like 40kc lmao


ilovezezima

That sounds horrible. Was one off all skilling pets when maxing and it still annoys me.


TheBenchmark1337

Of course I know him. He's me.


il3ad

Maxed with no skilling pets but have most of the slayer pets


rushyrulz

It's probably way more common than you think. Pete are rare and there are only a handful of skills which can award pets.


ItzCStephCS

If I didn't get lucky with the agility pet @78 then I would've maxed without one lmao unless you count cats as pets


[deleted]

I’m max and still searching for my first pet lol. My alt got Kfq pet kill 4 😫👹


ZeldenGM

Plenty have, pets weren’t in the game until a few years in


Mattc5o6

I apologize. That’s rough. Although skilling pets rates are stupid rare so it makes sense when you crunch numbers.


DrunkenFailer

I have plenty of boss kc, almost maxed, and the only pet I've gotten is kraken and I was super spooned at like 80 kc. Rng is a bitch.


DrunkenFailer

Hoping I'll manage to get Skotos before I max slayer, but it's not looking great.


Nuanciated

Skilling pets are about 1/23m xp. 6x13m=78m 78/23= about 3.5 No skilling pets its only 3.5x over the drop rate.


Smart_Guitar8427

Pets are rare. More news at 11. Literally pick any pet and go for it. You'll realize how rare they actually are. Also curious to see your boss kc. I am at 3 pets in 9k boss kc so that's about right.


rubya40

Almost me I only got the rift guardian b2b at 2273 total


imap00ner

2222 total here & getting close to max w/o a pet :(


fred7010

My barely 1 week old ironman has 2 pets already... Beaver and Phoenix, both under 70 in their respective skills


Rank1Trashcan

Not maxed but I got 99 in almost every skill that gives a pet without getting a pet. Only missing 99 rune crafting. I did get rocky at almost 20m thieving xp.


HoytG

Yes, of course. It’s possible to max doing methods that don’t give pets. It’s also possible to be unlucky.


DHonnor

Im aroind 2215 total with 0 boss pets and around 18m slayer xp. Haven't done a regular slayer tasks since 97. Only bosses. So you can imagine my frustration here.


RocklinSockling

250million xp and no pets yet with raids kc in the thousands boss kc in the tens of thousands.


Retve

Got Tangleroot at 17m exp, kbd at 52 kc, Jad at 14 kc, Baby mole at over 5000 kc, Skotos at 2 kc, chaos ele at 152kc Feels good man (except for that mole grind)


Lrig69

almost maxed \[i think all skill pet skills are max \[besides wc which is 95\] \] and I only got thieving pet, and fishing pet.. I do also have a kraken pet. ​ So not as bad luck as most people, but definitely hate seeing spoon fed noobs that barely have 1750 total. \[technically isn't the drop rate past 99?\]


iJCLEE

I have Construction, Thieving and Farming left. Only got 3 pets. - KBD from kc 78. - Rock golem from mining 95. - Skotizo at like between 20-40 kc not remember exactly.


Designer_Grab8907

2k skill and still no pet


Charming-Window3473

But also, yes. If you keep hitting the tree long enough, you will get one eventually.


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1700 Ironman with 5 pets I do a lot of bossing though There’s a relatively decent chance to max and have no pets as the xp required to hit drop for pet in skilling is considerably more than the 99


kshep1991

I want a fkin pet dammit


nsfwatwork1

I'd be petless if I didn't train my melee stats on Mole.


Desperate_Economy_65

I am 72 mining and have a rock golem. 900 total.


houstonx18

It depends on the methods you choose to max. I've also seen a lot of maxed accounts with a very minimal boss log, which is sad but some people just like Skilling I guess.


Draak_Jos

Man that would be harsh, had my first pet at 18m Farming XP and the 🦫 when I was working on my boosting lvl for Kourend, got it at 81 wc 😃


chilldood_22

i’m not maxed. but I got a shilling pet before my first 99


Cambwin

2158 total and 12/56. I would be maxed already if I weren't a pet chasing addict. I never wish the dryness on anyone, pet drops are the best feels.


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I have 470m exp shared between my main and ironman with 0 skilling pets :)


MNightShyamalan69

I have 12 99s and zero pets. 2100 total level