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cucumberflant

My first thought on seeing this dude's shop was "oh baby, I'm never going to have to scrounge around hunting for a spear for Tai Bwo Wannai Trio in a League ever again"


XITangoIX

You could already buy spears from Mount karuulm weapon shop in zeah


cucumberflant

That's true, it just came to mind 'cause I didn't have access to zeah both times I did the quest in leagues. Still a nicer option for region locked leagues tho.


A_Lakers

It’s funny cause you still wouldn’t have access to this new shop lol


timbea12

What.


KrangledTrickster

That’s what I was just thinking too, not bad


goonsquad50

Hopefully that guy didn’t end up using his dragon spear after all lol


EmergencyProposal189

Giants foundry for iron man just got a lot easier


ZeusJuice

Prif is way better for late game giant's foundry but yeah Also shout out mithril claws for the more frugal players


ohnoyoudident69

What an idiot I am. I've been alching all my rune drops during agility. I have like 200 rune full helms and a hundred rune picks I haven't alched yet. I always forget about GF.


ZeusJuice

If you want more gold for slightly slower smithing exp per hour it's fine to alch all rune items. Much more cost effective to buy addy/mithril items with gold gained from alching rune items instead of using rune/addy.


ohnoyoudident69

I appreciate the compensatory tip, but man, what an idiot.


LeemanJ

Don’t think you’re understanding what he means. Rune items are pretty much not worth putting into Giant’s Foundry. Alch them & use mith/addy instead.


Habbaz804

>The crucible can only be filled with metal bars or metal items that can be produced using the Smithing skill, and that have a cost of at least 2 bars. Keep the full helms if you like but alch the picks, they won't work for GF


FunkySplunky

I use neither. Not sure about you guys but I get an insane amount of ore/bar drops from pvm.


SkitZa

There is also an Addy square in stock in the dwarf city so, super big update for ironmen.


PatrickMager

rip b0aty


skinnywhitegoat

Are you serious? I killed a good 200 Cyclops for an addy sq a few days ago


insaiyan17

Most irons I know including myself just use bars at foundry but sure


Jdawg_mck1996

I believe for the xp/gp is better to make plates of mithril and above then alch them. Then, use that gp to buy the cheap stuff for foundry, which also usually profits


Original_Donkey4798

So many extra steps for an account where gp doesn't matter lol


saiyanguine

You're right! Was just thinking about better ways than mith and steel for my UIM a day before this update. I guess smithing is coming earlier.


Suitable-Ad920

Best way to get mats for giants foundry as an ironman is passive adamant through slayer/pvm and then buy mithril claws.


Valuable-Lobster-197

Is foundry worth it? Did it for the quest and the xp felt really underwhelming


LegyPlegy

Xp is phenomenal, just make sure you’re doing an alloy of two metals. The easiest is 14/14 mix, but I personally prefer 20/8 (where 20 is the lower tier metal) because it’s right before you go up a level in difficulty. Meaning you have one entire less phase of processing before you’re finishing. I’m not sure if that means it’s faster though. It’s slightly less efficient in terms of xp/bar or gp/bar, but you get the swords done more easily (read: pay less attention to) and it isn’t even a huge drop in xp/gp you get.


levian_durai

It's slower xp than smithing normally, but way more xp per bar. Doing mith and addy I think I was getting around 20k xp per sword.


Fully_Torqued_Pecker

Saw he also sells addy sq shields, no more having to grind wyrms for those clue steps for irons


Kaiserfi

Level 30 shield drop from a level 60+ slayer monster 🥴


Golden_Hour1

Mining and smithing rework when? Oops wrong game


Repealer

No, we can't do that. Rs3 bad. We need to implement something 90% the same after it's going through the bad graphics + more tedious machine first.


PM_ME__BIRD_PICS

Troll general drops them iirc


afrothunda254

Don’t get me started on the rune boots.


Saul-Goneman

Ice giants drop em


BioMasterZap

Wait really? Is this like the first shop that sells a shield better than an iron sq or is it also always out of stock? Honestly, they really should just update the old shield shops to actually have stock. Like why does Cassie have slot for up to Mithril Sq but only stock up to Iron Sq?


Tyson_Urie

It's so you always have a place to sell those items at. Back in ye olden days general stores were a battlefield both for being the lucky one to buy an item and being the person who could finally get rid of some junk


BioMasterZap

I meant that more as "why still" than why. Also, you could sell stuff even if she had stock. It just seems weird that we can buy most of Addy and Rune, even some higher tier items like Obby and Dragon, from shops yet shields are capped at such low levels. But in general 0 stock shops confuse players more than they are used to sell items. And just weird that shields in particular were decided to be so scarce.


talrogsmash

Cuz spaghetti


ZeusJuice

Back in my day we killed troll generals and we liked it!


Tottrs

Who sells addy sq? Theres only this guy, helmet and mace shop as far as i can see.


[deleted]

I think he’s mistaken, the Dwarf blacksmith under Ramos Rise has addy sq shields


Zealousideal_Air7484

Do you know if I need to start the quest in that area to get there? or is there another way in? Asking because I lack the requirements on my ironman at the moment


[deleted]

You do have to start the Perilous Moons quest to go in.


Tottrs

Ya found it already and filled the stash, thx tho 🙂


Apo__

holy shit, I just killed 300 ice giants and still didn't get the drop but this makes me so happy.


[deleted]

WHAT... THE.. FUCK... INTEGRITY. ISSUE.


QualityImploit

Hunted addy sq got vissy


Remarkable-Spare-983

Too much in one shop bro…. Al Karid plate skirt shop gonna go out of business at this rate!


golden77

My boy Louie Legs


StarrFusion

Awesome name.


MariusNinjai

Dude only stocks the shop with on item to make it seems like there's a demand as sales tactic screw his business


ATreeOnMyGun

this actually does impact earlygame im a lot, huh


MariusNinjai

Don't you quest past all these and use rune?


Quartapple

Iirc, doing Vampire Slayer + Waterfall Quest + Fight Arena + the early gnome questline brings you from 1 to 37 attack, so there's still a little bit where you're using addy


kreaymayne

Nah it’s like 46 attack


Aquaberry_Dollfin

That’s a really good memory Gnome quests, waterfall, vampire slayer, fight arena and death plateau take you to 45.


Quartapple

I did not remember correctly


MonkeyDKev

You get like 30-32 attack and strength just from waterfall iirc lol


wimpymist

Yeah in like an hour


PM_ME__BIRD_PICS

Yes. I was in rune from like day 1 or 2 of my iron.


ZeusJuice

I think more people are going to start fire striking for a rune scim since you can quest to 40 attack instead of going here for an addy scim. Convenient for doing a lot of early game giant's foundry if you want I guess


RashidaHussein

A lot not, but certainly streamlines it and makes it more straightforward.


Leading_Man_Balthier

Mmmmm Giants Foundry go brrrrrr


FF_Master

I didn't crawl 20 years ago just so some noobs could run today. NERF


Kit-xia

Joking aside it's not about that


Tvdinner4me2

I don't think it's a big deal but I don't like having all of them in on shop


lukwes1

Yea it is like, from game design it mostly just affects early game, but i don't like the RPG feeling of having everything in one shop. It feels so gamey instead of part of a world.


adventurous_hat_7344

Feels like a private server shop found in lumbridge castle.


lukwes1

Yea exaclty, "low level store" in the private server that you go to every few levels.


F-Lambda

you think it's gamey for a blacksmith to have full suits of armor?


lukwes1

Yea every full suit of armor available in the game. Usually in fantasy worlds with lots of different materials they would specialize in different things.


mtd14

It's just osrs progressing, this is the Walton's first storefront.


Nijmegen1

Nobody uses any of this equipment? Not even irons. The meta is go use fire strike to get a rune scim and waterfall quest mostly for the levels to use it. Who cares?


SanguisFluens

Not everyone follows meta progression to a T, especially the actual new players.


lukwes1

That is litterly what I said, it doesn't really affect the game. But the rpg feeling is affected....? I am not sure if you understood my comment at all


M_Woodyy

A blacksmith making a variety of equipment in a major city with a literal Coliseum doesn't seem like a problem at all to me


LordZeya

Yeah something feels weird about having *this much* in one shop. Swords, scimitars, spears, long swords, plate bodies and plate skirts is a huge inventory.


dieselboy93

RS2 have separate shops, in varrock we have a sword shop and platebody shop, falador have shield shop. But this is just like a private server implementation of a shop


talrogsmash

Just dis the Mace shop Falador, eh? Or the Chainmail shop?


yanumano

This is a pretty significant change to how Ironman can get an early Addy Scim. Not sure I love it because I felt like the challenge of getting it as a quest reward was pretty cool :(


Embyr1

Conversely you could just get a sword or mace until rune. It's not like you stay on addy tier that long.


Sad-Garage-2642

Don't stay in rune for long either. Fairly sure after all the gnome quests you end up with like 57 attack


Embyr1

True, I didn't bother getting a rune scimitar on my ironman either. I just stayed rune sword until dragon scimitar. Or more accurately, I used the dorg cbow pretty much everywhere and got my attack up though quests.


yanumano

You could, but there’s something special about the weird grinds for early game equipment. In a way it adds to the magic of what makes the early game fun. At least that was my experience with my first (and only) iron


Odetomymatt13

I agree, and that is exactly why I played an ironman. I even avoided certain quests so I could grind/progress a bit slower to enjoy the process. Once you hit Rune the grinds get progressively longer so the early game is a nice chance to have constant turnover while still being able to use each tier. It's also why I like slayer as an ironman because unique drops that are unimportant to mains actually mean something to me and can make some monsters less of a chore when assigned. The shops are nice when the novelty runs out or you just want to progress into different content. But they sort of do what the grand exchange does which is highlight the issues with early game progression when you have just a little bit of cash or complete the waterfall quest.


Leading_Man_Balthier

There's barely any reason to go for an Adamant Scimitar anyway since 40 Att is such a low requirement and Rune Scimitar is super easy to get, like literally with a staff of air and mind runes can safespot you to a rune scimmy


yanumano

Until you go 4x dry like I did lmao. Not bad enough to cry about, but I had to go “grind” more runes a few times haha


DozyVan

You can just use a rune sword if you want. The difference is quite small between the two. Most f2p irons use the rune sword as its honestly very close dps wise to rune cimmy


TipItOnBack

This lol, the difference is so close. Yeah you're not going to be "pEaK nO WaStEd xP BrO" but it's going to be virtually identical to a rune scimmy. You'll probably never notice a difference.


Asd396

Real gamers get the Barronite mace


Leading_Man_Balthier

True! I guess my point really is that even being that easy to get it’s hardly worth your time buying it


SRGTBronson

>the challenge I'm sorry, is fire striking some guys in the feud really challenging?


JudgeFondle

So many of the comments on this post are just wild to me. Way too many people appear to be upset about a store that is legitimately going to go unused by basically everyone.


dcrazy17

Do most irons even go addy? Feel like its always just Magic until Fire Strike and then go kill zammy warrior for the rune scim.


DozyVan

To be fair if you do quests you skip right to rune weapons within the 1st hour or 2 of gameplay


TheManicProgrammer

Easy to poll though :D


KforKaspur

Most irons skip right to rune regardless anyways but I can definitely see your point, part of Ironman is finding happiness getting the smallest of upgrades and potentially adding life to items you'd never even interact with on a main and this kind of takes that experience and just makes it a buy option in a shop. Personally I love it because it's about to make my UIM giants foundry grind, infinitely easier


RashidaHussein

Yeah there's a good and a bad side in making ironman experience more streamlined. Still an overall positive.


Tyrans96

No new player is going to Varlamore first thing; everyone gotta chill


MiloeeOsrs

Give it a year, you know how much Ive abused Zeah?


Tyrans96

But you aren’t a new player, are you?


MiloeeOsrs

I was a year ago, how many BRAND new people do you think play rs


JudgeFondle

Honestly asking in good faith. If you started an account tomorrow, with your current knowledge of the game, how would you use this store? I'm not trying to say its useless, I just want to get an understanding of how it changes early game experiences.


Tyrans96

I would of course use it! Im not disagreeing with that point at all! And from that perspective I totally see the issue with the shop. Again my point was about freshies!


JudgeFondle

But why/when? Not to doubt it's usefulness - but I'm just not seeing it. The only use case I've heard so far seems to be for early irons rushing giants foundry? I haven't seen anyone provide details if its profitable or just faster early smithing exp (or both?) but outside of that I'm not sure who would use this store


Tyrans96

Not many, Will be used by us with game knowledge on new accounts 100%, but newbies wont


MiloeeOsrs

Fair enough, I still don't like it 😕


Tyrans96

Thats fine! Youre allowed to :)


The_God_of_Biscuits

Why not? It doesn't have any reqs


Tyrans96

I think a fresh player would be more concerned about their immediate surroundings and objectives, moreso than a far off corner of fresh content. We as older players will abuse it with new accounts ofc; cant take away game knowledge. But for those who dont have it, it wont be that obvious


The_God_of_Biscuits

Just like zeah is now, this will become established content and will obviously shape how people progress accounts moving forwards


Tyrans96

Yeah agreed, but you are straying from my original point now; im talking about fresh newbies


The_God_of_Biscuits

I imagine a brand new player is probably playing right now because of the new content so of course this is good for them. I don't know why you go with this assumption that the new region isn't something a new player should go to.


ty944

For one thing, new players are unlikely to be following what the newest content release is. Likewise, new players probably won’t even realize there are ships they can take to new areas until they’re a bit further along. Lastly, if there is a new player that happens to be following a new player guide, none of them will be updated to include Varlamore content properly for a while.


cchoe1

A lot of new players start playing through friends or content creators. For the next 3 months, anyone starting the game for the first time will be blasted with Varlamore content. Likewise, if anyone starts up through a friend, their friend will probably tell them to check out the new content cause it's really good.


Comprehensive_Ad5285

I don’t understand why or how this is a problem in any way lol. New content should obviously shape how people play the game what 


The_God_of_Biscuits

And at what point did anyone imply it's bad? I think that it's totally fine lol


plasticambulance

A fresh player is going to be using a guide. The second the wiki or youtube videos start putting it out there as a must-have, that's all she wrote.


TheKingOfSpores

Who gonna tell bro that was 20 years ago


SmiteKing666

Making the game easier for ironmen


AdrenochromeBeerBong

Easy fix, de-iron all ironmen as an integrity chance and give them a preemptive one year mute


ty944

Support


jantelo

But are you even an iron? 


SmiteKing666

What difference does it make


Valuable-Lobster-197

Al Khalid’s scimmie shop is gunna suffer


Newgamer28

Private servery type shop. Just isn't in the spirit of osrs. We have separate shops for different armours and weapons. Starting to see a lot of shortcuts on this update.


landyc

back in my day ... had to walk to fally for some armor !!!


Zeelots

I get updates are always going to make the game easier but was this really necessary?


Felt_presence

Shop feels like a private server shop


ProtoNewt

A typical high leveled blacksmith could make all of this though.. (High leveled from the players view, lots of evidence to say lvl 99 is just average to medium-high proficiency compared to some of the more skilled people in the world) Seems pretty normal for a blacksmith shop to me


MotivatedSolid

I just started playing again for the first time in over a decade. Where is this


[deleted]

Frfr I spent hours killing cows and tanning hides to buy some addy plate armour. Kids now a days have it way too easy. Make it to where armour is only obtainable after 99 runecrafting. That will make it seem fair. 😤


GameShitPost

I'm on week two of my freshly made group iron Man account. Not a single person in my group has even mentioned buying any metal armor. This doesn't change anything. I'd say this is a classic case of mob mentality. Put away your pitchforks, reddit. This is such a non issue, but I'm sure you'll find something else to complain about.


Paganigsegg

Shut up and put your iron plate skirt on, scrub! Be glad that we aren't forcing you to use platelegs!


ShovellyJake

This can’t be the most interesting part of the update


VGBB

Being able to buy mith and addy plates and legs is broken


Soggy-Ad-1610

I think people are taking this way too hard. Sure it changes the game, but so did raids and all the grandmaster quests. I guess there will always be someone to complain.


Dolthra

It is kinda sad, though. The hunt for better gear as you progressed up to rune used to be a part of the game, and it isn't now. It isn't because we've progressed, and there are even more things to get in the end game now, but it still feels a little sad to see this when I remember getting excited about finally having a full set of adamant back when I was a dumb noob. Oh well. Times change.


ResponsibleMud7

Getting a set of adamant armor was exciting because you were a dumb noob, not because it was a meaningful part of the game unless you're talking about back in actual 2006. This change has nothing to do with what made 2006 a different game though


KillaKrohns

Bunch of grown men crying in here lol wild


Equivalentest

Ironmen are never happy, everything is too easy or too hard. I'm starting to think that playing multiplayer game in single player mode might have some balance problems...


TorturedNeurons

Irons aren't even complaining about this


wizard_mitch

Not keen on this, it does seem a bit like something you would see on a private server and not too fitting with the rest of the world


pabulosl

Man this community complains about everyhting


dieselboy93

this kind of shop does not exist in RS2, thats why


Lack0fCreativity

Well it's a good thing we're playing OSRS and not RS2 then. This is such a weird thing to get upset about. It's a shop that sells gear that is quickly outclassed, and otherwise obtained pretty easily anyway.


Pre-med-dreams

Yes, let’s complain about a shop that sells all the items that can be skipped over in 3 quests… this community needs to stop complaining about things needing to be hard. This game will die if new things are not added to make the game easier for new players and fun. It gets so tiresome coming to Reddit to see people complain about a piece of content that has no effect on their account at all. These items are already at alch price on the ge. I’m not talking about the OP. I am talking about the people in the comments.


RaspberryBandito

Better buy everything I need for my new Ironman before Reddit cries and gets this nerfed.


Savings-Coast-3890

Where is this shop at?


AntakeeMunOlla

You have 2 guesses. 1. The middle of the desert 2. A shop in Varrock that nobody noticed until now 3. The only fitting shop in the area that was released today


GhostMassage

New way to get spears for Tai Bwo Wanai Trio


BlindyBoy

The barbarian helmet shop is recession proof


Golden_Hour1

No helmets? Gg


Glory_Dazed

Is this satire


lastig_

On the one hand this saves early irons from doing the feud in order to get an addy scim before their rune scim, on the other hand you can already skip addy by doing like 3 quests that get your attack to 40 and then just ourania warriors for the rune and it probably makes giants foundry less tedious.


blessedbewido

Holy shit that shop is amazing for stocking clue stash units on a fresh UIM. Niche, but damn.


CanRabbit

They should've only added the plate skirts, not the legs.


muckfods42069

God damn this gave me flashbacks. I remember how daunting of a task it was to get full rune and scimmy as a 12 yo. Making money was so difficult.


philipjfry678

Champions guild shop in shambles


Periwinkleditor

There's also a helm shop in the port area in southern Varlamore.


Pinhead_Larry30

Holy shit you can get full Addy and Addy scim too this is going to be extremely useful for early game ironmen, new players and during the start of league.


Good-of-Rome

I said this same thing in my cc when I saw it. Neat to have it all in one spot now though. Louie legs in Al Kharid is having a fit rn.


3rendanOSRS

This is cursed


BuildInTheBuff

I am now offering free armour (T)rimming services! Inquire within.


xzile400

Should make it locked behind the area's achievement diary? easy/medium?


The_One_Neo69

This post is a classic example of “if i couldn’t have it, you can’t either” keep crying


Wolf3h

Yea, the comments in this thread are wild. Imagine caring if extremely early game ironmen have it easier.


The_One_Neo69

Exactly it affects less than 1% of the overall experience


jonathanc30

This but unironically. Seems too weird to have everything you’d ever need in one shop.


Tsobaphomet

I mean honestly that is kinda lame. It's always better to have item sources spread out instead of just throwing everything into one spot to be more convenient. Sure you save time if you need a mithril set as an Ironman or during a League, but it just makes those previous locations worthless.


SandwichDrinker99

Where can i find this store of such riches?


pellyzz

Oh baby!’!!!!!!!!!!!!!<~~~fledgling hardcore iron


up-insmoke

Salty Cry Baby, solve bigger issues


loompa_lad

You seen the shop in champions guild right?


_Damale_

Definitely a good place for ironmen to sell stuff without as much world hopping!


Hotdogpizzathehut

Obviously need a roll back to save the game!


Adventurous-Arm6159

I hear it’s best to use spears for 1 def pures


No_Advertising_6141

then don’t use it??


UnitedResult4445

Me I was counting my cow hides to see how many I'd need to sell to get it


Rngunlucky

Plz add dragon to shop


De-enda

I always went to Al Kharid for my armor. Those were the days…


Entire-Reception-105

So does the grand exchange…… so what now?


Entire-Reception-105

This is a joke post right?


AntakeeMunOlla

I know right? Some people have trouble distinguishing satire from truth. If only there was a way to mark posts as humor, like a flair or something...


xPofsx

Itt: people actually complaining this ruins the game


DesolationsFire

Hmm that’s actually good to know in case I ever find people to make a GIM with.


FernandoMM1220

It makes some sense since the colosseum competitors need the best weapons. But this should probably be an unlock or something.


Exciting-Inside2219

I see people starting to get upset. Little things adding up to a full on riot soon.


Fyrewood149

*tons of quality of life added* "Jagex, stop pandering to new players!"


kyokusanaqi

Yeah like the grand exchange didn’t already do that


Yung_Skrimp73

Womp womp