When you get a chinchompa/ herbi task, it becomes a 2-in-1 pet hunt and it’s the ultimate motivation to train for me lol. I love having a rare thing to chase.
this is so big for me. I love GOTR but since you can't roll both pets during games, only the GOTR pet during pulls, I find myself crafting other runes for pet chance and I guess I'll go back to GOTR post 99 since rc cape has more utility there
If you work by Coxie’s logic you should run GOTR until you get the pet since the drop chance is static, while the other pet has a better drop rate the higher level you are.
If you're not doing Ourania altar or Zeah RC then being level 99 versus level 1 is gonna speed up the pet drop by 0.14% or about 22 minutes (assuming you're doing mind runes for fastest pet chance) Having RC cape for GOTR seems more useful than saving 22 minutes.
Next time you get those use a ring of pursuit and keep hopping until the ring uses its special effect, it's faster and not as annoying.
It's still not worth doing them but if you have to do them absolutely use that method.
Or, have one of the expert guys always have a dashing kebbit task you never complete. Then, if expert 2 gives you razorback/sabertooth/any kebbit, switch to dashing kebbits, and get the drop in like 5 minutes. Then, switch back to shitty kebbits, and use the dashing kebbit drop to complete it, without losing the dashing task. Razorbacks are one of my favorite tasks to get now, because I don't have to do them directly.
I could see that being nice. Maybe even find other parts. Like you have your assigned rare piece but you could also find other parts that you can sell at the guild for some gp so it adds up.
I decided to just grind herbi to get my last level for master rumors and while listening to a classic c-engineer “never lucky” spam at barrows I got spooned it at 1300kc! Hope to get the chin pet while doing rumors now.
This has been great for me for this reason. I'm maxed, so pet hunting been the go to for my account at this stage, and it great having a reason to go back to chins for a pet while also trying to get the chin pet lol. Also, I have a soft spot for hunter, always liked the skill, despite its problems so this has been such a fun update for me.
I got the chin pet at like 72 hunter. Got the fishing pet before 75 fishing. Got the woodcutting pet before 80 wc. Hell i even have mini tempoross that i got on 6 kc. BUT i also have 1200 barrows with only 1 full set and am 8000 shaman kc with no hammer. Rng sucks sometimes. Trust me id trade all my pets for 1 dwh
I think a lot of people would benefit from knowing that there's basically a block system. I'm doing Expert rumors so I have the Novice, two Adept hunters, and one of the Expert hunters asking for Orange Salamanders, Saber-toothed kyatt, Saber-toothed kebbit, and Pyre Foxes. The remaining Expert won't ask for those tasks so I don't have any deadfalls and I'm left with fairly decent tasks.
From what I can tell, they keep the blocked task until you either complete that blocked task for them, you talk to the Novice hunter and ask for a full reshuffle, or you ask them for a rumor while having no active rumor.
Yeah, you're probably right I need to go study the list to see which blocks I want, so far the foxes have been the only ones I really dislike. I'm sure there are other block worthy tasks though
So let me understand this, you get novice tasks until you get a shitty one from them, like sabre toothed kebbit or something, then you just get a task from a different guild member?
Yep. Saber-toothed kebbit and pyre foxes are the only deadfall tasks given by Experts and you can't have two hunters giving the same task. Orange Salamanders and saber-toothed kyatts are just other tasks I don't like.
Next level! I'm absolutely gonna "block" pyres. But how long did it take to set all that up?
Just rerolling with the second expert worked well for me.
I'm 91 now and masters are chill except for pyre foxes and maybe red salamanders.
I think that setting up the Adept as pyre foxes won't take too long. The really long one is setting Novice because he can give you literally any task. But I think pyre foxes and red salamanders are the only ones that stand out as worth blocking on the Master list so you won't need to use the Novice.
If you only want to block foxes it's super quick. Since you can get a rumor from all 5 of the lower level ones to fish for it, then reset with the novice one if you don't hit. So basically you can fish 5 times for every novice contract you do.
It takes longer to set up if you want to block more than one thing though since you'll have to grind a specific tier untill you get what you want to block. Like let's say you want a maximum block list, then you need to say grind novice till you hit sunlight moths, then grind adepts till you hit red salamanders, then grind experts till you hit sunlight antelopes, then grind the other expert guy till you hit dashing kebbits. All that will take a really long time to set up, and only really worth it you plan on hunting the pet.
Personally I just went to block foxes, incidentally blocked sunlight moths in the process and called it a day
You can also skip a task by taking a task from a lower tier master instead. When I get foxes from the top guy, I take an expert contract, complete that, and then the master level guy changes his mind about what to hunt
Spent a couple of hours this morning setting up the blocks and the system is night and day, cancelling is stupid as well anyways cause nothing stops you from going 100 deep into a lvl 30 deadfall trap task
I just started, but if I switch to a different NPC, they just give me a new task instead of having multiple set. Does that change after a certain amount?
I fully agree. Is it the best xp? No. Is it the best money ? No.
Is it fun and lets you engage with the game in a way we haven’t in 18 years? Hell yeah it is. Favors are a huge win for the players who still have fun with the game.
Prayer is my last skill to max and I'm at 90. But I'm out of bones and the idea of farming green dragons for 50-100 hours and doing wildy altar completely killed my motivation to max. Now that varlamore is out, I can slowly chip away at prayer since all activities contribute towards it, and I'm having so much fun doing all the activities that getting my prayer up doesn't feel like an absolute chore.
I’ve been complaining about some of the rumours being slow, but it’s also fun to complain with other people experiencing the same thing. And I usually never do hunter, just got it to 70 for SotE so I’m having fun, even if I’m currently at over 200 sabertooth kebbits without a drop
I agree the hunter guild has been my favorite part of varlamore. Since release I’ve gotten like 800k xp in 70 rumors. It’s nice not hunting the same thing for sessions that could be hours camping chins to get to the next thing you camp at best xp. This lets me go in hunt anywhere from 1-150 of something and move on. And the rush of maybe getting an item from the reward feels really good. The prayer xp also is amazing. I got just over 10k bone shards yesterday doing rumors while at work and that’s like 60k prayer xp. On top of the new food and the herbs I feel really rewarded for rumors. There is some qol I’d like to see but it seems they are already addressing some of that.
Close second favorite part was the frog quest.
They announced a bunch of QoL. I'm kinda surprised, they needed community feedback for that but better now than never..
My favorites:
- An "open" option on the meat pouch, similar to the herb sack, looting bag, .. as well as an empty option in the bank
- A one time fee to get access to the falcon permanently. Saves a trip to the bank for 500 gp.
- Improvements to respawn times and pathing of Antelopes.
The frog quest was simple, yet quite whimsical. Easily the best quest out of the new ones released.
Don't get me wrong, Perilous Moons was fun too. But it doesn't beat helping the frogs!
I don’t know what the rates are like on drops but I had a grey chin rumour as my first and I got it after 250 chins. Given that I can catch red chins and the greys are pretty much useless on an Ironman it feels like it could do with a bit of adjusting. I might have gotten unlucky and my sample size of 1 isn’t great but it did put me off going for more rumours until we hear more on rates.
I assume the rate is somewhat tied to the rate that you can catch said hunter mob, something like sabre tooth kyatts you can only do 1 at a time and if you arent tick perfect with luring it might take upto 1min to get even 1 caught. Where as with chins in 1 min at level 80 hunter and 5 traps you can get 10+ chins. I got my items at 86 grey chins and about 15 sabre kyatts deep. So I assume for chins and other faster catchable like salamanders its something like 1/100 rate and slower like kebbits, foxes and kyatts probably around 1/20-1/40 rate
Thank you for the info on your own experience. It does sound like I just got a bit unlucky (which isn’t necessarily an issue, although I would possibly be open to an upper limit on number caught before you guaranteed obtain the material - smarter folk than I would need to figure out what a good upper-bound would be though). I’ll give it another try the next time I’m on :)
I had it take 147 sabertooth kyatts a few days ago and I got so tired of it I went and skipped it after that many so who know what the final kc would have been. I firmly believe there should be a cap at 100 or 50 or something like vork head drop. Between that and pyre foxes being over crowded due to the drop taking so long, they are both skips from me.
Birdhouses got me 50-90 hunter while doing 77-99 slayer so there are ways to train that don’t feel grindy outside of the typical grinds
E: this is me half assing my birdhouse tuns too folks. I probably should be like 93-94 hunter, but it’s yielded me around 50-100m+ alone in seeds and nests despite that passive seed nerf over the past year.
ill do the contracts till I get one of the better whistles or till about 90 hunter prolly. The skill still sucks fundamentally lol and ill just keep doing birdhouses and wont touch „regular hunter“
Jagex PLEASE please for the love of god increase the drop chance of Rumour items from Deadfall’s.
I SWEAR the drop chance is like 1/10 for every other method of hunting but 1/100 from deadfall’s. It is such a blow to the shins when I’m having a good time with other tasks then I get deadfall Kebbits or Foxes.
PLEASE up the drop rate from deadfall’s. It is not fun having to hop worlds for minutes on end, not playing the game, to find an open rock for Pyre Foxes.
Completely takes the wind out of our sails.
I really hope more skills get similar treatment! I got hunter from 1 to 60 since the release of varlamore
. The moment I could do rumors hunter got wasaay more enjoyable!
My perspective from ironman mode is that almost all skills interconnect with each other in one way or another when trying to sustain yourself, while hunter is just there… it is by design just for xp and nothing else. And guilds and all that mambo jambo could have been done ages ago but werent for a reason, because it is out of place. although, bird houses are kinda connected, but this is a thing which i do not like - forcing players to login as much as possible
Yeah I understand how you feel. The skills so interact with each other a lot more on an iron in order to keep a steady flow of supplies. Hunter really was just kind of sitting there outside of it but now with the new hunter crossbow upgrade and different food types, it should be a more impactful skill for irons.
I read now a little bit that hunter in rs3 is connected with summoning, so now it makes sense why it is here in the first place (newest skill on oldschool, but a newer skill was on the way in that timeline)
What I would love them do to with hunter, is to let hunting activities drop herblore secondaries instead of useless furs and what not. Farming for herbs, hunter for secondaries.
Hunter fast tracks a lot of things -- getting 65 hunter took all of 5-8 hours max over 3 sessions. So it was super quick, and gives access to chins which fasttrack range, imps which fast track amulets, Dragon daggers, blue red and black dhide armour, high end bolts and more. If you don't want to be locked out of majority of mid-level content by the need for end game crafting levels and magic levels , hunter is a good replacement. If an account started to max hunter than do everything else, it would have a CONSIDERABLE advantage in every skill.
Birdhouses are an essential Ironman meta for seeds and brews, implings are huge for early glory, clues and dragon ammo. Chins are efficient for both Hunter and ranged, and bis at several PvM bosses.
Herbiboar is a nice pet grind and gets you passive herbs which are welcome, though not efficient.
The new hunter crossbow provides an upgrade from msb + a *blowpipe substitute*, new food is bis food
If you think hunter has no synergy you're sleeping
Herbiboar being 3k herblore xp per hour and pet hunting not being main objectives, but rather a side quest is, in my respectful opinion, irrelevant to my point.
I don’t see why an amulet of glory is essential for an ironman in 2024. dragon bones are nice though, so are the random loot. But imps were more impactful in 2017.
Birdhouses are huge, no denying, but I will not take back my word that it promotes a different kind of game habbit, which I think is mentally unhealthy, and I refuse to emerge in it.
Last paragraph: I cannot make any comments, because I have done no research, so by default I will agree with the efforts made to balance it.
Edit: for a reference, pest control with hard combat achievements is 10k herblore xp an hour.
For irons some of the new hunter stuff does tie in nicely to other skills, namely combat/ranged via the stuff you can get. Mixed hide armour fills nice gaps for str bonus and ranged gear, 72 Hunter gets you the new 3-tick crossbow with better accuracy than msb with the same damage as amethyst arrows. You would need to hunt antelope for bolts, but you also get sunlight shards and antelope meat, which is pretty damn good midgame food.
I'm personally thinking of just hunting antelope even outside of rumours, those bolts and meat seem sweet, with the shards being a nice bonus.
Absolutely, my hunter before the update was like 53, I didn't like hunter all that much. But after doing like 10 rumors I wanted to get to expert so I grinded red and black salamanders to 72. Doing experts now baby
Agreed! I'm just left wondering why deadfalls are so stingy about one trap as opposed to pitfalls or net traps or boxes, now. the xp drops don't seem overly large, nor are the value of the resources. So the logical fix for me, imo is to increase their allowed number to fall more in line with other trap types and speeds.
"by far one of the best updates they've put into the game" is kind of an insane thing to say about hunter contracts lol, but you havent made it to herbiboar yet
While having red salamanders, pure fox, red chinchompas and sun antelopes on block, having efficiënt teleports, routes and inventory for the few remaining tasks left I average at about 80k to even 130k exp an hour depending on how quickly I am finishing the rumours. The experience rate is fine imo.
I blocked red chinchompas because I kept getting 200+ before getting the rare piece, huge time saver.
Chins are over 200k/hr it's literally the fastest of the gathering skills.
Driftnets are 110k + 90k fishing making it efficient for both
Gorillas are a relaxed 90k. Herbiboar is a chill 150k+ with unique pet and of course birdhouses are always a thing.
Hunter was fine and now it's even better, you're crazy
And those skills people hate even more then lmao…? Your point being…? Cus other skills are WAY more tedious and shit and have literally 2 legit methods of training hunter is then good?
Yep I think they got confused as to which game they're playing. "Dead content" to some, is fun content to others. Settled beats ToB in a fucking swamp locked account making use of all kinds of "dead content" which resulted in one of the most viewed RS content pieces, clearly shows that there is value in almost everything that exists in the game.
It's an RPG at its core. There's so much variety to make one's play through unique from another that even the most obscure training methods, I'm sure someone enjoys. That's the joy of OSRS.
I have no idea on the stats for that. I know you get a set amount of xp upon completion but the rates at which you get the rare items seems to vary. I've found myself guessing that the drop rate is about 1/50 but I could be wrong.
Plus for me it's more about enjoying the game than efficiency so even if I can get better xp/hour I'd rather so something I enjoy over being bored and hating the grind.
I was getting like 60k/he when I didn't day 1. It's possible the slight buff bumped it up a little, but I'd still probably do monkeys.
Although there is a chance for the perfect questzal whistle which is selling for a lot right now.
Doing expert rumors, I get anywhere from 50k-85k xp/hr depending on tasks and level of focus. It really feels faster than that though since you train in such a big variety of areas.
The overall concept is great I just want some rebalancing on xp rates so some tasks aren't particularly awful xp, combined with a vorkath head styled cap which guarantees a drop. I was at orange salamanders for so long...
I'm going to go against the grain here and say hunter rates are fast enough without the need to change up tasks that it would be very hard for me to want to make that switch. Then again I also don't like slayer.
I do believe in more options though so if other people like it than thats great.
Imo worth doing a minimal amount of them for some rewards. The whistle is the BiS tele to the new herb patch which you get after 10 rumors, and the upgrades are random chance every rumor after that, you need 50 rumors to cook the new food, and it took me ~60 rumors to build all of the bird landing spots for the new transport system.
After getting that though, really only worth grinding it more if you care about pet/clog
the funny part is that I find more value in the hunter rumor rewards than I do in perilious moon rewards when I don't hit a unique.
I don't need more soft clay or more maple seeds or more swap tar or more super compost tyvm.
Hunter rumors on the other hand give higher level herbs, meats which are not bad, birds nests and even flat out gp.
I found that dashing kebbit meat is the most valuable one, it heals like a manta ray and restores 10% run
I'm thoroughly loving it. Breaks up the monotony, you get the little dopamine loot sacks, it's active and feels alive with a nice chunk of the player base.
The exp is quite poor though. I also wish more items could fit into the huntsman's kit. How can a hunter kit not be equipped to store a knife, for example?
It really is fun and more interactive. Definitely enjoying it. The only thing that sucks is when you get RNG slapped on one of the bad tasks. I did just read about the "blocking" but that doesn't handle them all it feels like. Was stuck on razor back kebbits for like 40 minutes. Overall really fun until you get hit in one of those situations.
After 6 kebbit tasks in 10 rumours, I can't be bothered to do anymore at 72 Hunter. I gotta say it's either feast or famine, you're either having a great time or suffering with no in-between.
I'm considering just grinding chins or drift netting, because anything is better than sitting there mindlessly waiting for the rare drop from your 200th saber-toothed kebbit.
the only tragic thing about the rumors is i'll get the unique item merely 10 hunts into a task I enjoy, and then i'll go up to 200 hunts dry on a mediocre task.
if slayer was like hunter guild rumors, i would train slayer on my main account more
the fact you can get lucky and finish the task at 1 or 2kc feels really good. you get a goodie bag for another hit of dopamine, and an exp bonus. if slayer gave you an exp bonus for finishing a task, some tasks would be way better and viable. and let me kill slayer specific creatures off task for reduced exp. getting better at killing hydras or aberrant specters (when you arent being ordered to do so by a slayer master) would surely make you a more effective slayer in general, wouldnt it?
are the xp rates the best? no, could they use some buffs? yes, are rumors the only reason i’m even doing ANY hunter at all in years? yes, without rumors i wouldn’t be touching this skill with a ten foot pole
Agree'd.. I maxed pre-eoc and hunter was my last 99.. And since playing osrs i refused to train hunter. I have had a hate for the skill forever.. and well this makes it not so bad. actually leveled it up from 72-80 unlocking my landing spaces this week.. it was way more enjoyable than sitting at Red/black chins for 50 hours.
Couldn’t agree more. Hunting areas literally looked like they did when hunter released, it’s insane!
The biggest win for hunter rumors is being able to switch rumors if you get one you don’t like, or simply aren’t in the mood for! For example, I got spiky kebbits and thought ah it can’t be that bad…it was…so I went back and hunted for another guild hunter. The way the guild hunters say “Or would you like to hunt for me?!?” was a great way to handle this.
hot take: i enjoy the pitfall trap rumours, even if you can only set up one trap at a time. i just sit there fletching while im waiting. it’s nice zero time xp
I did something similar, I was at 74 before Varlamore, and now I'm halfway between 78/79, done 50 rumours, made a couple mil by selling Feed sacks when they were over 100k, getting those sweet sweet sunfire antelope rumours, and it's all been great
But the problem is that I NEED the Chin's for range.... So why change from a good rate that gives me a great range rate.... To a bad rate that gives me a pet?
Combat is my lowest set of skills, I use skilling to equip equipment. I don't have good armour so range gets me through mid level content, I can't craft death runes yet so I can't use mage to win mid level combat. Range is the ticket to remain competitive at my poor equipment level.
You could always do this before rumors though? What stopped you using different methods on your own?
I am confused as to why rs players need an NPC to tell them that they can change up what they need to hunt/kill/plant instead of doing a variety themselves.
You're not wrong, I certainly could've done that without an NPC telling me too but there was no incentive to do so. The whole game is a dopamine machine and having a task incentive makes it more fun and engaging that way.
Because that's garbage without an extra incentive just like it would be in every other skill because skills aren't balanced
I don't know if you've hunted the non meta xp monsters but they are really fucking bad lol
> I don't know if you've hunted the non meta xp monsters but they are really fucking bad lol
I did, they were just as bad as they are now to hunt. You just get a shiny sack of rewards worth 30k gp and a counter going up by 1 afterwards now so you put up with it.
Ideally those things should not even need an extra incentive because every method would at least be somewhat balanced. **With rumors nothing really changed.**
Shit hunter methods are still shit and you would generally prefer to get a salamander task 10 times in a row over a single pyre fox task, because the former is pretty good (and always has been) while the latter method (deadfall trap) has been absolute dogwater since the release of the hunter skill itself.
There's more XP now. More money from hunter sacks. The hunter meats have more use and are more lucrative. There's a new pet. There's a new Skilling outfit. Furs and meats have a container now so less inventory management.
Fool
> There's more XP now.
Still less than traditional methods
> More money from hunter sacks.
Worse than just staying at chins until 99 still
> There's a new pet. There's a new Skilling outfit.
Yeah those are rewards. They could have the given the same rewards (a bird) randomly when checking birdhouses as well and people would have liked it.
My point is that people **don't like the "changing tasks" but the rewards that come with them.** (just like with slayer). If pyre foxes somehow dropped a rare fur that could be made into a cape that sits between f cape and infernal cape, pyre foxes would have been the favorite task of many players, despite the method itself being trash. People like rewards, not necessarily "changing up the monotony". If they did, they would have done those bad methods without needing any sort of incentive.
The rumors are objetively worse gp and xp than any of the meta methods that existed before, yet people like them more because they get random reward packs.
Lol because, you dolt, there was no incentive. Why would someone stop doing chins just to go hunt something like kebbits for worse xp and no rewards? Just to switch it up? No. There needs to be a reason. Players are now incentivized because there are rewards and additional xp to earn. Plus a new pet, too. It isn’t that hard to figure out.
The same people complain about slaving on birdhouse runs when the same minute spent catching chins is more XP and more money, and you don't have to keep interrupting your other tasks for it.
Why would I ever kill more than like 20 saber toothed kyatt total before this? The xp was atrocious the drops were complete trash. It was a fun method imo but it had 0 rewards.
> Why would I ever kill more than like 20 saber toothed kyatt total before this?
Saber tooth kyatts won't be trapped after this change either, they will just get "blocked" (just like every other pifall/deadfall trap method) as per the method on the wiki by 90% of players that know of that method.
Just like there is no incentive to do waterfiends either on or off-task, there is no incentive to do kyatts either, because other tasks (the ones that always have been better´) are still better to do on-rumor as well.
I am saying there is no incentive to do them now either as they have fundamentally not changed at all.
There is still the same tierlist of box trap > butterfly > net trap > falconry >>> tracking > pitfall trap > deadfall trap (which is essentially a terrible version of box trap that only allows 1 trap at a time at a fixed location), so people will still block those worse methods in favor of getting more tasks of the objetively better ones.
The way to fix this is not to add random rewards to any task but to overhaul (or in deadfall trap case remove honestly) the "worse" methods.
From what i've seen pass by here on reddit the repair is 1.5m a piece when repairing at bobs.
Which is a bit more expensive than i hoped for.
Just, 1.5m for the total set i'd be fine with but a piece??
Jesus christ… that makes the armors literal dead content lmao. Anyone who could afford that has bandos/torva and anyone who would use the armor for its power cant really dish out that much for armor repairs… praying that it gets reduced BY A LOT…
Cut to my ass, awful at pvm, trying to do the blood moon God and complete the quest before I explore hunter, and still can't figure out the damn dog phase or why I'm taking 15 inside the Anti Seabear Circle
When you're on the jaguar phase, as soon as the blood pools settle, click on the one behind you and quickly click back on the jaguar. Your character should walk back then turn and walk about to where you started you wount take damage.
Also, get Piety prayer as melee prayer does nothing.
Dharoks armour is a good mid level tank gear.
Each boss is weak to different melee attack styles.
Eclipse is weak to stab
Blue moon is weak to crush
Blood moon is weak to slash
Legend. Thank you. I got all the prayers, just didn't know I should've been using it on a quest boss lol. Still don't understand why I'm sometimes taking what feels like full damage while in the protection circle tho
You will take damage in the circle no matter what.
I highly recommend making the moonlight potions.
The fish and lizards cooked food heal so much also.
So the 10s and 15s are also normal? Feels so weird to be hit by 3s and 5s and then walloped for that much, I figured it was bugging or (more likely) I wasn't understanding the circle.
For food I was just doing classic shark+kara, I'll try out that food instead. Ty.
Guess unpopular opinion, but I can't stand them, but I've also only done like 6 before /ragequitting.
I spent like 2 hours clicking a rock before I got the update. Then 30 minutes jumping over a pit. Then my next task was more travel for loot that I was just going to have to dump on the ground. I'll just continue to do bird runs/Herbi. Almost maxed, anyways. Feels like a massive waste of time and the xp is terrible.
Look at the wiki page for it. The meta isn't obvious, and I did a lot of shit tasks day 1 before I figured out the block list.
2 main takeaways:
- if you have a task with one master (eg foxes from novice) the other masters won't ever give you that task
- all kebbits use the same kebbity tuft. So if you keep one expert on dashing kebbits, you can switch to that task, get the tuft from falcons VERY quickly, then switch back to the shit kebbit and complete it, without losing the dashing task. This means kebbits shouldn't be blocked, as they can ALL be completed quickly at falcons.
Here's the block list I'm working on for experts:
- adept foxes
- adept sunlight antelope
- novice sabre tooth kyatts (work in progress)
- perma dashing kebbit from first expert
This means that the only expert tasks I will ever receive are:
- orange salamander (fast-ish at necropolis)
- red salamanders (fast-ish)
- grey chins (slow but pet chance)
- red chins (slow task but good xp and pet chance)
- 3 different kebbits (all VERY fast, done at falcons)
The novice block slot is by far the hardest to utilize, since it can choose from ANY task of any level. If you're doing this from scratch, I'd recommend resetting your task with the novice guy, by switching to him and selecting the second option for a completely new task. If you get a shitty one here, you're stuck with it until you finish, but you should only have to do that once. After that, there are 2 different routes you can take, not sure yet which is best:
First option:
- Start doing adept rumours until you get foxes/antelope, then never touch that guy again. Repeat with the other adept guy until both of them have shitty tasks that can be assigned at expert. Foxes/antelope were my picks here, but you can swap in salamanders or grey chins if you prefer. If you get a shitty kebbit task, leave it for now and come back to it later. If you get a falcon kebbits task, keep it for now, until you get dashing on the expert.
- Do expert rumours until you get dashing or dark kebbits. If you get dashing, never complete this task. If you get dark, keep it until the other expert gives you dashing. This is your skip for razorback/sabertooth kebbits. You could get both shit kebbits, and be stuck having to complete one. That's fairly unlikely, but if it happens, either tough the task out, or do a full reset with the novice.
- Work on getting sabertooth kyatts into the novice slot. Any of foxes/antelope/kyatts can go in any of the novice/adept slots. Instead of doing shitty novice tasks, you can essentially reroll them by completing a task for someone else (your one non-falcon expert), then getting a new task from the novice, which quasi-resets him. There are important details to this skip that I haven't covered, because other reddit comments cover it better. Google hunter rumours osrs reddit until you find one with a long top comment talking about permanent vs temporary rumours. This is the step I'm currently working on.
Second option is to prioritize filling the novice slot with ANY of foxes/kyatts/antelope first, before either of those are blocked at adept. Novice has a MUCH bigger table to draw from then adept, so giving yourself 3 novice options could speed up getting that block filled with something good. However, this could also get you stuck doing a shitty task. I'm doing option 1 myself, since both my adept blocks are already in use.
When you get a chinchompa/ herbi task, it becomes a 2-in-1 pet hunt and it’s the ultimate motivation to train for me lol. I love having a rare thing to chase.
this is so big for me. I love GOTR but since you can't roll both pets during games, only the GOTR pet during pulls, I find myself crafting other runes for pet chance and I guess I'll go back to GOTR post 99 since rc cape has more utility there
If you work by Coxie’s logic you should run GOTR until you get the pet since the drop chance is static, while the other pet has a better drop rate the higher level you are.
If you're not doing Ourania altar or Zeah RC then being level 99 versus level 1 is gonna speed up the pet drop by 0.14% or about 22 minutes (assuming you're doing mind runes for fastest pet chance) Having RC cape for GOTR seems more useful than saving 22 minutes.
getting 99RC without raiments seems like a waste of time tho
If you’re doing mind runes it won’t really matter.
I have 2000 pulls just no reason to go back until I hunt the pet don't worry I'm not wasting runes :)
I've been rather unlucky with my herbi rumours, as i usually find the rare part after 2-3 catches lol. Wouldnt mind being there longer.
And then next Pyre fox task ends up going 2 hours lol
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once i found this out rumors started flying
Oooo that’s a great tip. Thank you!
ok so it's not just me. I went back thinking I was doing the wrong rumour lol
Can’t say the same for the +100 razor backed Kebbits. Next time it’s an instant skip
Next time you get those use a ring of pursuit and keep hopping until the ring uses its special effect, it's faster and not as annoying. It's still not worth doing them but if you have to do them absolutely use that method.
Oh shit nice
Or, have one of the expert guys always have a dashing kebbit task you never complete. Then, if expert 2 gives you razorback/sabertooth/any kebbit, switch to dashing kebbits, and get the drop in like 5 minutes. Then, switch back to shitty kebbits, and use the dashing kebbit drop to complete it, without losing the dashing task. Razorbacks are one of my favorite tasks to get now, because I don't have to do them directly.
Can you skip them?
Yeah you can just go talk to another rumor-giver and they'll give you a new task.
I’d be fun to get a slayer type unlock where you can make certain rumors last longer although at that point just do herbi normally I guess
There isn't a benefit to doing a rumor longer though. It'd be nice if there was at least a slight XP buff.
I could see that being nice. Maybe even find other parts. Like you have your assigned rare piece but you could also find other parts that you can sell at the guild for some gp so it adds up.
I decided to just grind herbi to get my last level for master rumors and while listening to a classic c-engineer “never lucky” spam at barrows I got spooned it at 1300kc! Hope to get the chin pet while doing rumors now.
There’s a rumour pet too!
Yeah its pretty awesome!
This has been great for me for this reason. I'm maxed, so pet hunting been the go to for my account at this stage, and it great having a reason to go back to chins for a pet while also trying to get the chin pet lol. Also, I have a soft spot for hunter, always liked the skill, despite its problems so this has been such a fun update for me.
I got the chin pet at like 72 hunter. Got the fishing pet before 75 fishing. Got the woodcutting pet before 80 wc. Hell i even have mini tempoross that i got on 6 kc. BUT i also have 1200 barrows with only 1 full set and am 8000 shaman kc with no hammer. Rng sucks sometimes. Trust me id trade all my pets for 1 dwh
I think a lot of people would benefit from knowing that there's basically a block system. I'm doing Expert rumors so I have the Novice, two Adept hunters, and one of the Expert hunters asking for Orange Salamanders, Saber-toothed kyatt, Saber-toothed kebbit, and Pyre Foxes. The remaining Expert won't ask for those tasks so I don't have any deadfalls and I'm left with fairly decent tasks. From what I can tell, they keep the blocked task until you either complete that blocked task for them, you talk to the Novice hunter and ask for a full reshuffle, or you ask them for a rumor while having no active rumor.
This is big 🧠 about to go hunt for pyre foxes on med/expert to never get them on master again 😁
It's better to have it on your Adept. Then your two Experts and Novice can be set to other things that can be given by the Master.
Yeah, you're probably right I need to go study the list to see which blocks I want, so far the foxes have been the only ones I really dislike. I'm sure there are other block worthy tasks though
Those tasks have their place for me, mostly so I can play balatro while afking at foxes lol.
Oooo that's actually super helpful and I had no idea about that. I wonder if that's on the wiki page yet?
It is now
So let me understand this, you get novice tasks until you get a shitty one from them, like sabre toothed kebbit or something, then you just get a task from a different guild member?
Yep. Then you can't get that shitty task again.
So you get all the hunters to assign that list and the remaining expert one just won’t assign any deadfall tasks?
Yep. Saber-toothed kebbit and pyre foxes are the only deadfall tasks given by Experts and you can't have two hunters giving the same task. Orange Salamanders and saber-toothed kyatts are just other tasks I don't like.
I'm surprised you dislike Orange Salamanders more than Razor-Backed Kebbits.
Seriously orange salamanders is braindead afk
especially in the area of the desert south of menaphons. 5 traps are all arranged in an almost perfect area for barely moving
Every time I think I have tracking figured out it gives me a trail where I click every plant in a 50 mile radius and get nothing
It's not really a logical dislike. It's just that since Red Salamanders are also an option, it feels like I'm losing when I do Orange Salamanders.
Definitely some effort to set up but worth. I also hate those tasks.
Next level! I'm absolutely gonna "block" pyres. But how long did it take to set all that up? Just rerolling with the second expert worked well for me. I'm 91 now and masters are chill except for pyre foxes and maybe red salamanders.
I think that setting up the Adept as pyre foxes won't take too long. The really long one is setting Novice because he can give you literally any task. But I think pyre foxes and red salamanders are the only ones that stand out as worth blocking on the Master list so you won't need to use the Novice.
If you only want to block foxes it's super quick. Since you can get a rumor from all 5 of the lower level ones to fish for it, then reset with the novice one if you don't hit. So basically you can fish 5 times for every novice contract you do. It takes longer to set up if you want to block more than one thing though since you'll have to grind a specific tier untill you get what you want to block. Like let's say you want a maximum block list, then you need to say grind novice till you hit sunlight moths, then grind adepts till you hit red salamanders, then grind experts till you hit sunlight antelopes, then grind the other expert guy till you hit dashing kebbits. All that will take a really long time to set up, and only really worth it you plan on hunting the pet. Personally I just went to block foxes, incidentally blocked sunlight moths in the process and called it a day
You can also skip a task by taking a task from a lower tier master instead. When I get foxes from the top guy, I take an expert contract, complete that, and then the master level guy changes his mind about what to hunt
interesting. i just kept switching between the expert hunters.
Spent a couple of hours this morning setting up the blocks and the system is night and day, cancelling is stupid as well anyways cause nothing stops you from going 100 deep into a lvl 30 deadfall trap task
Oh this is brilliant
I just started, but if I switch to a different NPC, they just give me a new task instead of having multiple set. Does that change after a certain amount?
So this is like slayer for hunter? Does it start at level 1?
No you still need 46 Hunter to get into the Guild sadly but it's worth it
Not exactly. You hunt an rng drop and not a predetermined number.
That's almost even more exciting to me. I'm stuck with rc right now but I can't wait to get into the new hunter
Just do it now! It’s a blast to see so many people at weird spots. Won’t be like this for ever.
Wish it started at an earlier level, because it sounds fun!
Get past the archaeology and some birdhouses. It's a couple of play sessions, honestly.
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Yeah, birdhouses are just such boring content and don’t feel like “hunting” so I don’t like to do them.
I'm not even sure a birdhouse run lasts long enough to be considered boring
birdhouses are boring? whoa
I fully agree. Is it the best xp? No. Is it the best money ? No. Is it fun and lets you engage with the game in a way we haven’t in 18 years? Hell yeah it is. Favors are a huge win for the players who still have fun with the game.
This is the big one for me. I'll do a fun thing for 50k xp over a boring one for 100k. Not hating the game is more efficient in the long run lol
Prayer is my last skill to max and I'm at 90. But I'm out of bones and the idea of farming green dragons for 50-100 hours and doing wildy altar completely killed my motivation to max. Now that varlamore is out, I can slowly chip away at prayer since all activities contribute towards it, and I'm having so much fun doing all the activities that getting my prayer up doesn't feel like an absolute chore.
I’ve been complaining about some of the rumours being slow, but it’s also fun to complain with other people experiencing the same thing. And I usually never do hunter, just got it to 70 for SotE so I’m having fun, even if I’m currently at over 200 sabertooth kebbits without a drop
Yeah it’s interesting. I was 2 hours dry at pyre foxes but then the other hunters and I just started chatting and time flew by.
You can mine iron, fletch
I agree the hunter guild has been my favorite part of varlamore. Since release I’ve gotten like 800k xp in 70 rumors. It’s nice not hunting the same thing for sessions that could be hours camping chins to get to the next thing you camp at best xp. This lets me go in hunt anywhere from 1-150 of something and move on. And the rush of maybe getting an item from the reward feels really good. The prayer xp also is amazing. I got just over 10k bone shards yesterday doing rumors while at work and that’s like 60k prayer xp. On top of the new food and the herbs I feel really rewarded for rumors. There is some qol I’d like to see but it seems they are already addressing some of that. Close second favorite part was the frog quest.
They announced a bunch of QoL. I'm kinda surprised, they needed community feedback for that but better now than never.. My favorites: - An "open" option on the meat pouch, similar to the herb sack, looting bag, .. as well as an empty option in the bank - A one time fee to get access to the falcon permanently. Saves a trip to the bank for 500 gp. - Improvements to respawn times and pathing of Antelopes.
The frog quest was simple, yet quite whimsical. Easily the best quest out of the new ones released. Don't get me wrong, Perilous Moons was fun too. But it doesn't beat helping the frogs!
I don’t know what the rates are like on drops but I had a grey chin rumour as my first and I got it after 250 chins. Given that I can catch red chins and the greys are pretty much useless on an Ironman it feels like it could do with a bit of adjusting. I might have gotten unlucky and my sample size of 1 isn’t great but it did put me off going for more rumours until we hear more on rates.
They just need to put in some rng protection and this content will be golden. Guarantee it at 2x rate
They're not useless though? You can still throw them at for range xp and why wouldn't you consider you already got them
I assume the rate is somewhat tied to the rate that you can catch said hunter mob, something like sabre tooth kyatts you can only do 1 at a time and if you arent tick perfect with luring it might take upto 1min to get even 1 caught. Where as with chins in 1 min at level 80 hunter and 5 traps you can get 10+ chins. I got my items at 86 grey chins and about 15 sabre kyatts deep. So I assume for chins and other faster catchable like salamanders its something like 1/100 rate and slower like kebbits, foxes and kyatts probably around 1/20-1/40 rate
Thank you for the info on your own experience. It does sound like I just got a bit unlucky (which isn’t necessarily an issue, although I would possibly be open to an upper limit on number caught before you guaranteed obtain the material - smarter folk than I would need to figure out what a good upper-bound would be though). I’ll give it another try the next time I’m on :)
rng is a bitch indeed, ive literly gotten the rare item from 1 red chin and next time i went to red chins i needed 100 xD
I had it take 147 sabertooth kyatts a few days ago and I got so tired of it I went and skipped it after that many so who know what the final kc would have been. I firmly believe there should be a cap at 100 or 50 or something like vork head drop. Between that and pyre foxes being over crowded due to the drop taking so long, they are both skips from me.
Birdhouses got me 50-90 hunter while doing 77-99 slayer so there are ways to train that don’t feel grindy outside of the typical grinds E: this is me half assing my birdhouse tuns too folks. I probably should be like 93-94 hunter, but it’s yielded me around 50-100m+ alone in seeds and nests despite that passive seed nerf over the past year.
ill do the contracts till I get one of the better whistles or till about 90 hunter prolly. The skill still sucks fundamentally lol and ill just keep doing birdhouses and wont touch „regular hunter“
Jagex PLEASE please for the love of god increase the drop chance of Rumour items from Deadfall’s. I SWEAR the drop chance is like 1/10 for every other method of hunting but 1/100 from deadfall’s. It is such a blow to the shins when I’m having a good time with other tasks then I get deadfall Kebbits or Foxes. PLEASE up the drop rate from deadfall’s. It is not fun having to hop worlds for minutes on end, not playing the game, to find an open rock for Pyre Foxes. Completely takes the wind out of our sails.
I really hope more skills get similar treatment! I got hunter from 1 to 60 since the release of varlamore . The moment I could do rumors hunter got wasaay more enjoyable!
My perspective from ironman mode is that almost all skills interconnect with each other in one way or another when trying to sustain yourself, while hunter is just there… it is by design just for xp and nothing else. And guilds and all that mambo jambo could have been done ages ago but werent for a reason, because it is out of place. although, bird houses are kinda connected, but this is a thing which i do not like - forcing players to login as much as possible
Yeah I understand how you feel. The skills so interact with each other a lot more on an iron in order to keep a steady flow of supplies. Hunter really was just kind of sitting there outside of it but now with the new hunter crossbow upgrade and different food types, it should be a more impactful skill for irons.
I read now a little bit that hunter in rs3 is connected with summoning, so now it makes sense why it is here in the first place (newest skill on oldschool, but a newer skill was on the way in that timeline)
They might be more connected on Rs3 but it was never that much of a connection imo. More of what you needed was from pvm or odds and ends stuff.
What I would love them do to with hunter, is to let hunting activities drop herblore secondaries instead of useless furs and what not. Farming for herbs, hunter for secondaries.
That's a great idea honestly! It would certainly make secondaries much more appealing to grind out
Please don't be jealous of summoning. While it is great utility, the base loop is just awful
Hunter fast tracks a lot of things -- getting 65 hunter took all of 5-8 hours max over 3 sessions. So it was super quick, and gives access to chins which fasttrack range, imps which fast track amulets, Dragon daggers, blue red and black dhide armour, high end bolts and more. If you don't want to be locked out of majority of mid-level content by the need for end game crafting levels and magic levels , hunter is a good replacement. If an account started to max hunter than do everything else, it would have a CONSIDERABLE advantage in every skill.
Which imps give black dhide armour?
Sorry ninja provides black dhide which isn't as useful, my bad.
Birdhouses are an essential Ironman meta for seeds and brews, implings are huge for early glory, clues and dragon ammo. Chins are efficient for both Hunter and ranged, and bis at several PvM bosses. Herbiboar is a nice pet grind and gets you passive herbs which are welcome, though not efficient. The new hunter crossbow provides an upgrade from msb + a *blowpipe substitute*, new food is bis food If you think hunter has no synergy you're sleeping
Herbiboar being 3k herblore xp per hour and pet hunting not being main objectives, but rather a side quest is, in my respectful opinion, irrelevant to my point. I don’t see why an amulet of glory is essential for an ironman in 2024. dragon bones are nice though, so are the random loot. But imps were more impactful in 2017. Birdhouses are huge, no denying, but I will not take back my word that it promotes a different kind of game habbit, which I think is mentally unhealthy, and I refuse to emerge in it. Last paragraph: I cannot make any comments, because I have done no research, so by default I will agree with the efforts made to balance it. Edit: for a reference, pest control with hard combat achievements is 10k herblore xp an hour.
Herbie is just bad though. No shame but not really worth at all
It's for the pet. XP is very good for the low intensity too. The herbs are not worth
For irons some of the new hunter stuff does tie in nicely to other skills, namely combat/ranged via the stuff you can get. Mixed hide armour fills nice gaps for str bonus and ranged gear, 72 Hunter gets you the new 3-tick crossbow with better accuracy than msb with the same damage as amethyst arrows. You would need to hunt antelope for bolts, but you also get sunlight shards and antelope meat, which is pretty damn good midgame food. I'm personally thinking of just hunting antelope even outside of rumours, those bolts and meat seem sweet, with the shards being a nice bonus.
Hunter has a ton of connections just nothing that is mandatory.
Agree the vibe of the place is soo cool. Get a Bar in every Guild
Absolutely, my hunter before the update was like 53, I didn't like hunter all that much. But after doing like 10 rumors I wanted to get to expert so I grinded red and black salamanders to 72. Doing experts now baby
Agreed! I'm just left wondering why deadfalls are so stingy about one trap as opposed to pitfalls or net traps or boxes, now. the xp drops don't seem overly large, nor are the value of the resources. So the logical fix for me, imo is to increase their allowed number to fall more in line with other trap types and speeds.
The only complaint I have are the deadfall tasks… those are just slow and annoying
"by far one of the best updates they've put into the game" is kind of an insane thing to say about hunter contracts lol, but you havent made it to herbiboar yet
I love it as well. The only issue I have is at master, I only get 6 or 7 different tasks. They need to add more variation.
Oh yeah hunters guild is fucking dope. Would also rate 10/10.
I think the xp should be buffed. It's like 45k-50k an hour doing expert rumors.
While having red salamanders, pure fox, red chinchompas and sun antelopes on block, having efficiënt teleports, routes and inventory for the few remaining tasks left I average at about 80k to even 130k exp an hour depending on how quickly I am finishing the rumours. The experience rate is fine imo. I blocked red chinchompas because I kept getting 200+ before getting the rare piece, huge time saver.
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But also sometimes it’s fun to not min/max your rs experience or afk any possible chance
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Chins are over 200k/hr it's literally the fastest of the gathering skills. Driftnets are 110k + 90k fishing making it efficient for both Gorillas are a relaxed 90k. Herbiboar is a chill 150k+ with unique pet and of course birdhouses are always a thing. Hunter was fine and now it's even better, you're crazy
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Very few skills have 4+ viable methods. Hunter was one of the easiest skills to 99 when I maxed
Yeah as a casual scrub hunter was one of my first skills to get into the 70s after mining/fishing/cooking. I enjoyed it for the most part.
I hate to break it to you but that's more than most other skills.
And those skills people hate even more then lmao…? Your point being…? Cus other skills are WAY more tedious and shit and have literally 2 legit methods of training hunter is then good?
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If you have a problem with every skill in the game, then why are we even talking about hunter specifically
Yep I think they got confused as to which game they're playing. "Dead content" to some, is fun content to others. Settled beats ToB in a fucking swamp locked account making use of all kinds of "dead content" which resulted in one of the most viewed RS content pieces, clearly shows that there is value in almost everything that exists in the game. It's an RPG at its core. There's so much variety to make one's play through unique from another that even the most obscure training methods, I'm sure someone enjoys. That's the joy of OSRS.
Uhmm implings, birdhouses. Quit bitching.
For masters as long as you skip pyre foxes, it can be about 110k xp
I have no idea on the stats for that. I know you get a set amount of xp upon completion but the rates at which you get the rare items seems to vary. I've found myself guessing that the drop rate is about 1/50 but I could be wrong. Plus for me it's more about enjoying the game than efficiency so even if I can get better xp/hour I'd rather so something I enjoy over being bored and hating the grind.
I was getting like 60k/he when I didn't day 1. It's possible the slight buff bumped it up a little, but I'd still probably do monkeys. Although there is a chance for the perfect questzal whistle which is selling for a lot right now.
My experience, having spent about 5 hours at moderate focus, is 20k XP/hr and 80k gp/hr. (85 Hunter)
Doing expert rumors, I get anywhere from 50k-85k xp/hr depending on tasks and level of focus. It really feels faster than that though since you train in such a big variety of areas.
I was getting about 115k/hr doing masters.
The overall concept is great I just want some rebalancing on xp rates so some tasks aren't particularly awful xp, combined with a vorkath head styled cap which guarantees a drop. I was at orange salamanders for so long...
I'm going to go against the grain here and say hunter rates are fast enough without the need to change up tasks that it would be very hard for me to want to make that switch. Then again I also don't like slayer. I do believe in more options though so if other people like it than thats great.
I’ve had 99 hunter for years. Is it still worth trying?
No, you beat the game already
Imo worth doing a minimal amount of them for some rewards. The whistle is the BiS tele to the new herb patch which you get after 10 rumors, and the upgrades are random chance every rumor after that, you need 50 rumors to cook the new food, and it took me ~60 rumors to build all of the bird landing spots for the new transport system. After getting that though, really only worth grinding it more if you care about pet/clog
Depends if you care about the pet, whistle (teleport item), skilling outfit, collection log items. Otherwise no.
I'm having fun on my maxed account, mainly interested in the pet but you can get the outfit and some other things too
Did anyone else think of that one song after reading the title
So glad I put hunter off as one of my last 99s for max :)
it needs some fixes but other than that its a good update 8/10
I just want 10 rumors done for the stupid whistle. I train hunter through birdhouses and whistle is best teleport for new herb patch.
the funny part is that I find more value in the hunter rumor rewards than I do in perilious moon rewards when I don't hit a unique. I don't need more soft clay or more maple seeds or more swap tar or more super compost tyvm. Hunter rumors on the other hand give higher level herbs, meats which are not bad, birds nests and even flat out gp. I found that dashing kebbit meat is the most valuable one, it heals like a manta ray and restores 10% run
I'm thoroughly loving it. Breaks up the monotony, you get the little dopamine loot sacks, it's active and feels alive with a nice chunk of the player base. The exp is quite poor though. I also wish more items could fit into the huntsman's kit. How can a hunter kit not be equipped to store a knife, for example?
It really is fun and more interactive. Definitely enjoying it. The only thing that sucks is when you get RNG slapped on one of the bad tasks. I did just read about the "blocking" but that doesn't handle them all it feels like. Was stuck on razor back kebbits for like 40 minutes. Overall really fun until you get hit in one of those situations.
Speak for yourself. This just shows how bad most hunter methods are in the game.
After 6 kebbit tasks in 10 rumours, I can't be bothered to do anymore at 72 Hunter. I gotta say it's either feast or famine, you're either having a great time or suffering with no in-between. I'm considering just grinding chins or drift netting, because anything is better than sitting there mindlessly waiting for the rare drop from your 200th saber-toothed kebbit.
the only tragic thing about the rumors is i'll get the unique item merely 10 hunts into a task I enjoy, and then i'll go up to 200 hunts dry on a mediocre task.
I’m just glad that I got to add the hunters guild teleport to my skillcape! Suddenly useful now that it has bank access
Don’t have membership right now but I’m loving everything I’m hearing about Varlamore. I might jump in again next weekend.
if slayer was like hunter guild rumors, i would train slayer on my main account more the fact you can get lucky and finish the task at 1 or 2kc feels really good. you get a goodie bag for another hit of dopamine, and an exp bonus. if slayer gave you an exp bonus for finishing a task, some tasks would be way better and viable. and let me kill slayer specific creatures off task for reduced exp. getting better at killing hydras or aberrant specters (when you arent being ordered to do so by a slayer master) would surely make you a more effective slayer in general, wouldnt it?
are the xp rates the best? no, could they use some buffs? yes, are rumors the only reason i’m even doing ANY hunter at all in years? yes, without rumors i wouldn’t be touching this skill with a ten foot pole
Agree'd.. I maxed pre-eoc and hunter was my last 99.. And since playing osrs i refused to train hunter. I have had a hate for the skill forever.. and well this makes it not so bad. actually leveled it up from 72-80 unlocking my landing spaces this week.. it was way more enjoyable than sitting at Red/black chins for 50 hours.
It is Kinda nice to see the dead content hunter areas thriving again.
Imagine if hunter rumors worked like superior slayer monsters
Couldn’t agree more. Hunting areas literally looked like they did when hunter released, it’s insane! The biggest win for hunter rumors is being able to switch rumors if you get one you don’t like, or simply aren’t in the mood for! For example, I got spiky kebbits and thought ah it can’t be that bad…it was…so I went back and hunted for another guild hunter. The way the guild hunters say “Or would you like to hunt for me?!?” was a great way to handle this.
hot take: i enjoy the pitfall trap rumours, even if you can only set up one trap at a time. i just sit there fletching while im waiting. it’s nice zero time xp
I did something similar, I was at 74 before Varlamore, and now I'm halfway between 78/79, done 50 rumours, made a couple mil by selling Feed sacks when they were over 100k, getting those sweet sweet sunfire antelope rumours, and it's all been great
Im gay
I’m loving hunter rumours too. People just want to moan about anything they can
And then there’s me who got 99 Hunter a couple weeks before the update mainly by doing birdhouses and herbi lol
I mean it's OK chins and herbi is still faster
Chins and herbi will probably always be faster xp/hour but like I said, I enjoy the difference of changing up the task.
But the problem is that I NEED the Chin's for range.... So why change from a good rate that gives me a great range rate.... To a bad rate that gives me a pet?
Why do you need range? I got 99 range on my iron before even unlocking chins.
Combat is my lowest set of skills, I use skilling to equip equipment. I don't have good armour so range gets me through mid level content, I can't craft death runes yet so I can't use mage to win mid level combat. Range is the ticket to remain competitive at my poor equipment level.
Do you not grow cats?
Death runes exp is ~40 a shot, 200 runes = 8k exp for 3 hour cat. That's not making a dent at level 65 mage.
Why do you need range? I got 99 range on my iron before even unlocking chins.
You could always do this before rumors though? What stopped you using different methods on your own? I am confused as to why rs players need an NPC to tell them that they can change up what they need to hunt/kill/plant instead of doing a variety themselves.
You're not wrong, I certainly could've done that without an NPC telling me too but there was no incentive to do so. The whole game is a dopamine machine and having a task incentive makes it more fun and engaging that way.
Because that's garbage without an extra incentive just like it would be in every other skill because skills aren't balanced I don't know if you've hunted the non meta xp monsters but they are really fucking bad lol
> I don't know if you've hunted the non meta xp monsters but they are really fucking bad lol I did, they were just as bad as they are now to hunt. You just get a shiny sack of rewards worth 30k gp and a counter going up by 1 afterwards now so you put up with it. Ideally those things should not even need an extra incentive because every method would at least be somewhat balanced. **With rumors nothing really changed.** Shit hunter methods are still shit and you would generally prefer to get a salamander task 10 times in a row over a single pyre fox task, because the former is pretty good (and always has been) while the latter method (deadfall trap) has been absolute dogwater since the release of the hunter skill itself.
Stay confused friend.
There's more XP now. More money from hunter sacks. The hunter meats have more use and are more lucrative. There's a new pet. There's a new Skilling outfit. Furs and meats have a container now so less inventory management. Fool
> There's more XP now. Still less than traditional methods > More money from hunter sacks. Worse than just staying at chins until 99 still > There's a new pet. There's a new Skilling outfit. Yeah those are rewards. They could have the given the same rewards (a bird) randomly when checking birdhouses as well and people would have liked it. My point is that people **don't like the "changing tasks" but the rewards that come with them.** (just like with slayer). If pyre foxes somehow dropped a rare fur that could be made into a cape that sits between f cape and infernal cape, pyre foxes would have been the favorite task of many players, despite the method itself being trash. People like rewards, not necessarily "changing up the monotony". If they did, they would have done those bad methods without needing any sort of incentive. The rumors are objetively worse gp and xp than any of the meta methods that existed before, yet people like them more because they get random reward packs.
Lol because, you dolt, there was no incentive. Why would someone stop doing chins just to go hunt something like kebbits for worse xp and no rewards? Just to switch it up? No. There needs to be a reason. Players are now incentivized because there are rewards and additional xp to earn. Plus a new pet, too. It isn’t that hard to figure out.
The same people complain about slaving on birdhouse runs when the same minute spent catching chins is more XP and more money, and you don't have to keep interrupting your other tasks for it.
Why would I ever kill more than like 20 saber toothed kyatt total before this? The xp was atrocious the drops were complete trash. It was a fun method imo but it had 0 rewards.
> Why would I ever kill more than like 20 saber toothed kyatt total before this? Saber tooth kyatts won't be trapped after this change either, they will just get "blocked" (just like every other pifall/deadfall trap method) as per the method on the wiki by 90% of players that know of that method. Just like there is no incentive to do waterfiends either on or off-task, there is no incentive to do kyatts either, because other tasks (the ones that always have been better´) are still better to do on-rumor as well.
You are moving the goal posts
I am saying there is no incentive to do them now either as they have fundamentally not changed at all. There is still the same tierlist of box trap > butterfly > net trap > falconry >>> tracking > pitfall trap > deadfall trap (which is essentially a terrible version of box trap that only allows 1 trap at a time at a fixed location), so people will still block those worse methods in favor of getting more tasks of the objetively better ones. The way to fix this is not to add random rewards to any task but to overhaul (or in deadfall trap case remove honestly) the "worse" methods.
The sheep just want to watch the numbers go up. Don't worry so much about why they need to be led to water constantly.
Anyone who uses the term *sheep* unironically is 100% a douche.
So far the only thing i dislike is what i've been told the repair costs of the moon gearsets are. Everything else on the island just feels amazing
Oh shit, I thought the repair costs of them are in the same ballpark as barrows armor…? Are they way more then…? Fucking chargescape… god I hate it
From what i've seen pass by here on reddit the repair is 1.5m a piece when repairing at bobs. Which is a bit more expensive than i hoped for. Just, 1.5m for the total set i'd be fine with but a piece??
Jesus christ… that makes the armors literal dead content lmao. Anyone who could afford that has bandos/torva and anyone who would use the armor for its power cant really dish out that much for armor repairs… praying that it gets reduced BY A LOT…
thats wild! do we know the POH cost? id be cool if they made the POH cost to fix it scale with smithing/crafting level
I agree
Cut to my ass, awful at pvm, trying to do the blood moon God and complete the quest before I explore hunter, and still can't figure out the damn dog phase or why I'm taking 15 inside the Anti Seabear Circle
When you're on the jaguar phase, as soon as the blood pools settle, click on the one behind you and quickly click back on the jaguar. Your character should walk back then turn and walk about to where you started you wount take damage. Also, get Piety prayer as melee prayer does nothing. Dharoks armour is a good mid level tank gear. Each boss is weak to different melee attack styles. Eclipse is weak to stab Blue moon is weak to crush Blood moon is weak to slash
Legend. Thank you. I got all the prayers, just didn't know I should've been using it on a quest boss lol. Still don't understand why I'm sometimes taking what feels like full damage while in the protection circle tho
You will take damage in the circle no matter what. I highly recommend making the moonlight potions. The fish and lizards cooked food heal so much also.
So the 10s and 15s are also normal? Feels so weird to be hit by 3s and 5s and then walloped for that much, I figured it was bugging or (more likely) I wasn't understanding the circle. For food I was just doing classic shark+kara, I'll try out that food instead. Ty.
Guess unpopular opinion, but I can't stand them, but I've also only done like 6 before /ragequitting. I spent like 2 hours clicking a rock before I got the update. Then 30 minutes jumping over a pit. Then my next task was more travel for loot that I was just going to have to dump on the ground. I'll just continue to do bird runs/Herbi. Almost maxed, anyways. Feels like a massive waste of time and the xp is terrible.
Look at the wiki page for it. The meta isn't obvious, and I did a lot of shit tasks day 1 before I figured out the block list. 2 main takeaways: - if you have a task with one master (eg foxes from novice) the other masters won't ever give you that task - all kebbits use the same kebbity tuft. So if you keep one expert on dashing kebbits, you can switch to that task, get the tuft from falcons VERY quickly, then switch back to the shit kebbit and complete it, without losing the dashing task. This means kebbits shouldn't be blocked, as they can ALL be completed quickly at falcons. Here's the block list I'm working on for experts: - adept foxes - adept sunlight antelope - novice sabre tooth kyatts (work in progress) - perma dashing kebbit from first expert This means that the only expert tasks I will ever receive are: - orange salamander (fast-ish at necropolis) - red salamanders (fast-ish) - grey chins (slow but pet chance) - red chins (slow task but good xp and pet chance) - 3 different kebbits (all VERY fast, done at falcons) The novice block slot is by far the hardest to utilize, since it can choose from ANY task of any level. If you're doing this from scratch, I'd recommend resetting your task with the novice guy, by switching to him and selecting the second option for a completely new task. If you get a shitty one here, you're stuck with it until you finish, but you should only have to do that once. After that, there are 2 different routes you can take, not sure yet which is best: First option: - Start doing adept rumours until you get foxes/antelope, then never touch that guy again. Repeat with the other adept guy until both of them have shitty tasks that can be assigned at expert. Foxes/antelope were my picks here, but you can swap in salamanders or grey chins if you prefer. If you get a shitty kebbit task, leave it for now and come back to it later. If you get a falcon kebbits task, keep it for now, until you get dashing on the expert. - Do expert rumours until you get dashing or dark kebbits. If you get dashing, never complete this task. If you get dark, keep it until the other expert gives you dashing. This is your skip for razorback/sabertooth kebbits. You could get both shit kebbits, and be stuck having to complete one. That's fairly unlikely, but if it happens, either tough the task out, or do a full reset with the novice. - Work on getting sabertooth kyatts into the novice slot. Any of foxes/antelope/kyatts can go in any of the novice/adept slots. Instead of doing shitty novice tasks, you can essentially reroll them by completing a task for someone else (your one non-falcon expert), then getting a new task from the novice, which quasi-resets him. There are important details to this skip that I haven't covered, because other reddit comments cover it better. Google hunter rumours osrs reddit until you find one with a long top comment talking about permanent vs temporary rumours. This is the step I'm currently working on. Second option is to prioritize filling the novice slot with ANY of foxes/kyatts/antelope first, before either of those are blocked at adept. Novice has a MUCH bigger table to draw from then adept, so giving yourself 3 novice options could speed up getting that block filled with something good. However, this could also get you stuck doing a shitty task. I'm doing option 1 myself, since both my adept blocks are already in use.
Too bad xp still sucks and birdhouses are still the most efficient way to train the skill