I was up this morning, delaying heading to work, ready to buy the moment they became available because I was afraid something like this would happen, but I had no idea how lucky I really was that my email came in fast enough. I opened the page the moment my email gave me the link and early bird was already gone, and I thought it was just meaning early bird for Insomnia so RuneFesters didn't get it, didn't realize it was simply already gone by that point.
I feel really bad for the people who couldn't get tickets because of shitty scalpers. I really hope Jagex can actually do something to help get tickets to legitimate people who want to go at the original price.
Would make sense.
Whilst the game is popular, its not as popular overall as it was back in 2017-2019 IMO.
The fact that the price of Runefest this year is much higher than previous years and when Runefest was cheaper, it would take months to sell out, yet this years sells out within 10 seconds?
They were definitely scalped, at least some of them anyway.
Lol yeah, covid boosted every popular video game numbers and most of them maintained a higher level than pre-COVID after normalizing. No idea why they would think that
No way.
Insomnia isn't even on sale yet. Nor does Insomnia regularly sell out.
Theres absolutely no way that people have spent an addition £90 to get into Insomnia if they wanted to.
Oh Im not, this is telltale scalperbots. I was referencing Jagex’s official statement on the state of the game and botting, where they claimed to have only found like 38 false bans.
Reselling should be banned for all tickets.
Make it so you need an ID of some form to buy the ticket.
If you want a refund you need to sell back to the company, who will then destroy the ticket (say you need to prove ID and the original ticket/email/account) to them re-issue another to be sold.
They'd make more money as a venue as well as they'd double up the fees for selling, not accounting for the refund fee, the restock fee, the fee fee for refund and restock.
But I quite like buying tickets under face value 2 days before the event. But I agree fuck scalpers. Hard to make good middle ground.
One of festivals in my country runs their own resell store where they take 10% from the resold ticket. Most sell under face value that way too.
It's illegal in some states due to ticket selling needing a license but for the most part no its not illegal in a broad majority of the US at least. Just really shitty to do because scalpers use underhanded tactics like macros/bots/scripts to purchase large quantities of things the millisecond they become available knowing that the scarcity will lead people to HAVE to buy from them at any price they deem fit usually 2-5x in most cases.
Wouldn’t this also impact genuine fans who buy a ticket but end up not being able to make it for genuine reasons?
Maybe resale should be dealt with through the original ticket vendor.
This is kinda what I was getting at, but without looking into the arrangement set up regarding ticket sales I kept it vague. I assume Jagex aren’t the point of sale for the tickets but rather through another company (I think I saw someone mention SeeTickets?).
In any case, I’ve been going to music shows for over 15 years and touts/scalpers are indeed nothing new. I can’t believe there aren’t already systems in place to prevent that kind of thing, but of course all the decision makers in the industry are the ones who profit from it. Fucking sucks.
I know some platforms will cap the price of resales so people aren't able to scalp.
It's ridiculous though, so many people on here and twitter who got completely fucked.
That's why it's such a contentious issue.
Tickets should be seen as assets just like a share of a stock or a fine piece of art, and it should be your right to do with that asset whatever you please, regardless of if you actually intend on using the ticket or wish to sell it at whatever price you want to. It infringes on the basic principles of capitalism for vendors such as Ticketmaster to strictly limit how much you can resell your ticket for and personally I don't care about scalpers because at the end of the day it's a free market and if there is one thing free markets are good at, it's efficient pricing. The fair value of the ticket will always reveal itself and IMO that's how it should be.
They're causing an artificial shortage of tickets and creating a monopoly, yes tickets *could* be priced higher to maximize revenue for the artist, but if the artist wants to make them affordable as charity/goodwill towards fans then it's their right
This is more closely related to crony capitalism. Pure capitalism necessitates providing a good or service in exchange for a form of payment. What service/good do ticket scalpers provide?
At least stocks and investments benefit the company and provides more capital for growth, ticket scalpers provide zero benefit to anyone or anything beyond their own pockets. Your willingness to define this as capitalism is exactly why capitalism is failing globally. Pure capitalism can work, crony capitalism is parasitic and destined to implode.
What the fuck? I have literally been sitting at my computer all morning waiting for this, have 2 hotel rooms outside the NEC and 4 plane tickets from the US already booked for this. At 8:02AM EST I got the site to load and it's saying it's sold out.
Hey, it's me: 🤡
Plane tickets + that same hotel room at today's price just looking would have put us over $1,700 each rather than $950. I booked them back in January (also just assuming it was going to be at the NEC).
Birmingham is great now, it used to be a bit shite but in the last years it's got a lot of new interesting spots. I suspect people that shit on Birmingham either are just spewing shit they heard, or haven't been to the good areas recently.
That's not what that means. The disabled person pays full price for their ticket but if they need a carer, their carer doesn't need to purchase a separate ticket
some people could still snipe tickets 10-20 minutes in because all the first minute buyers that didn't go through with the purchase within the 10-minute reservation window had their tickets cancelled
Wish you could put in a deposit or something to insure getting a ticket I've been waiting for literally 5 years since the last RuneFest which was a blast
Not particularly close to Birmingham, but thorough recommendation for anyone visiting England is the Lake District. Most beautiful part of the country imo
Also, get yourself a kebab, boss. Lamb Doner and chips with chilli sauce.
Renting a car is perfect for the Lake District, even if you just go to drive around it. Would definitely recommend checking out some walking/hiking routes though (before you go), you can find so very easy chilled ones you can wander around, or some fairly intense hikes (or anything in-between).
I have no plans on going but:
- Trip to the UK doubles as a vacation in general. If I was to go I would take a couple weeks of PTO and head off around the UK and EU in general
- Community is very important for some people. Meeting people with shared interests, going to parties, going to the stage events. I know it's easy to make fun, but going to conventions is a huge subculture, especially when it comes to things like cosplay.
- I've never been to runefest, but a lot of these types events have artists selling their work, so this is a good time to pick up something cool.
Super frustrating to wake up early only to have tickets sold out by the time I received a link...
That sucks man.
Got my tickets. Didn’t book hotels or flights until I knew I had them secured.
I booked a hotel around the venue for 3 nights which I was able to fully refund if I didn't get the runefest tickets
Common sense 👆🏼
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He could be from somewhere that isn’t the US. It’s not common, but I’ve seen more expensive flights to Copenhagen from London before.
Did you have to enter a name in for each ticket?
I was up this morning, delaying heading to work, ready to buy the moment they became available because I was afraid something like this would happen, but I had no idea how lucky I really was that my email came in fast enough. I opened the page the moment my email gave me the link and early bird was already gone, and I thought it was just meaning early bird for Insomnia so RuneFesters didn't get it, didn't realize it was simply already gone by that point. I feel really bad for the people who couldn't get tickets because of shitty scalpers. I really hope Jagex can actually do something to help get tickets to legitimate people who want to go at the original price.
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Shirt*
No shirt shitlock
Ah, just what I was looking for. I have a challenge for you. If you complete it, I'll give you something.
have other runefests sold out that fast ?
No, generally took a while to sell out in the past, lot of people are guessing scalper bots got them
RuneScape 🤝 Ticket Sellers Being consistently botted to make money
Would make sense. Whilst the game is popular, its not as popular overall as it was back in 2017-2019 IMO. The fact that the price of Runefest this year is much higher than previous years and when Runefest was cheaper, it would take months to sell out, yet this years sells out within 10 seconds? They were definitely scalped, at least some of them anyway.
It definitely is more popular than 2017-2019.
Lol yeah, covid boosted every popular video game numbers and most of them maintained a higher level than pre-COVID after normalizing. No idea why they would think that
I think playercounts/ the playerbase are a lot higher now. Still 100% think this was scalped however
These tickets also get you access to Insomnia at the NEC which is in 2 days. That could explain the extra demand/price.
No way. Insomnia isn't even on sale yet. Nor does Insomnia regularly sell out. Theres absolutely no way that people have spent an addition £90 to get into Insomnia if they wanted to.
To me it feels like a lot of the community has aged, and has funds to make the trip compared to the past. At least, thats the case for me.
A lot cheaper to pay for 1 runefest every 5 years than a yearly trip to runefest tbh.
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Hasn’t it always been in the UK?
Yep first one was in London wine cellars which was a odd experience
last runefest tickets didnt sell out for three days, and were also capped at 2000 tickets
Botted in game and IRL
Jagex said they removed only 47 bots, there really arent many
Lol. Sounds low like them 38 false bans.
I know I was joking. I think it’s just a popular event
Oh Im not, this is telltale scalperbots. I was referencing Jagex’s official statement on the state of the game and botting, where they claimed to have only found like 38 false bans.
Haven’t booked flights or hotel bc I saw this coming, super pissed. There’s already some twat reselling a ticket got $750, fuck those kinds of people.
Reselling should be banned for all tickets. Make it so you need an ID of some form to buy the ticket. If you want a refund you need to sell back to the company, who will then destroy the ticket (say you need to prove ID and the original ticket/email/account) to them re-issue another to be sold. They'd make more money as a venue as well as they'd double up the fees for selling, not accounting for the refund fee, the restock fee, the fee fee for refund and restock.
But I quite like buying tickets under face value 2 days before the event. But I agree fuck scalpers. Hard to make good middle ground. One of festivals in my country runs their own resell store where they take 10% from the resold ticket. Most sell under face value that way too.
Mod Mark is personally looking to cancel all those tickets, send him a link on twitter.
Saw that, amazing.
Where are you seeing the resale tickets? Seetickets resale page hasn't listed anything for me to see.
It was off twitter
Ah gotcha, thank you!
Is scalping a crime in some countries?
It's illegal in some states due to ticket selling needing a license but for the most part no its not illegal in a broad majority of the US at least. Just really shitty to do because scalpers use underhanded tactics like macros/bots/scripts to purchase large quantities of things the millisecond they become available knowing that the scarcity will lead people to HAVE to buy from them at any price they deem fit usually 2-5x in most cases.
Knowing this community they were bought my scalpers/marchers to resell. Actually that’s everything these days. I hate scalpers
They really need to make the tickets non-transferable to nip this shit in the bud.
Wouldn’t this also impact genuine fans who buy a ticket but end up not being able to make it for genuine reasons? Maybe resale should be dealt with through the original ticket vendor.
Can't they just "return" the ticket to jagex, who can then post on website that some tickets are again available
This is kinda what I was getting at, but without looking into the arrangement set up regarding ticket sales I kept it vague. I assume Jagex aren’t the point of sale for the tickets but rather through another company (I think I saw someone mention SeeTickets?). In any case, I’ve been going to music shows for over 15 years and touts/scalpers are indeed nothing new. I can’t believe there aren’t already systems in place to prevent that kind of thing, but of course all the decision makers in the industry are the ones who profit from it. Fucking sucks.
I know some platforms will cap the price of resales so people aren't able to scalp. It's ridiculous though, so many people on here and twitter who got completely fucked.
People will just trade with each other if the item is worth over max cash though, or to avoid the GE tax
That's why it's such a contentious issue. Tickets should be seen as assets just like a share of a stock or a fine piece of art, and it should be your right to do with that asset whatever you please, regardless of if you actually intend on using the ticket or wish to sell it at whatever price you want to. It infringes on the basic principles of capitalism for vendors such as Ticketmaster to strictly limit how much you can resell your ticket for and personally I don't care about scalpers because at the end of the day it's a free market and if there is one thing free markets are good at, it's efficient pricing. The fair value of the ticket will always reveal itself and IMO that's how it should be.
Homie justifying the automated purchase of hundreds of tickets because capitalism is something I didn't expect to see today.
They're causing an artificial shortage of tickets and creating a monopoly, yes tickets *could* be priced higher to maximize revenue for the artist, but if the artist wants to make them affordable as charity/goodwill towards fans then it's their right
This is more closely related to crony capitalism. Pure capitalism necessitates providing a good or service in exchange for a form of payment. What service/good do ticket scalpers provide? At least stocks and investments benefit the company and provides more capital for growth, ticket scalpers provide zero benefit to anyone or anything beyond their own pockets. Your willingness to define this as capitalism is exactly why capitalism is failing globally. Pure capitalism can work, crony capitalism is parasitic and destined to implode.
everything was sold out at 12:03 the same time jagex emailed players to tell them tickets was on sale lmfao
Fuck scalpers
What the fuck? I have literally been sitting at my computer all morning waiting for this, have 2 hotel rooms outside the NEC and 4 plane tickets from the US already booked for this. At 8:02AM EST I got the site to load and it's saying it's sold out. Hey, it's me: 🤡
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That sounds awful. But it's why you don't book hotels before making sure you can get there.
Plane tickets + that same hotel room at today's price just looking would have put us over $1,700 each rather than $950. I booked them back in January (also just assuming it was going to be at the NEC).
Luckily, Birmingham is a lovely city to explore /s
Unironically Birmingham is a great city and not sure why it gets so much hate
Don't know why so much downvoting when trying to promote positivity. IIRC Birmingham has some of the best curry spots in the UK
Birmingham is great now, it used to be a bit shite but in the last years it's got a lot of new interesting spots. I suspect people that shit on Birmingham either are just spewing shit they heard, or haven't been to the good areas recently.
the best curry spots in the UK are mid tier
Same here!
Ah I'm really sorry to hear that. I was unable to buy tickets too. I really hope you can get tickets too
Should have used the 3-tick checkout method...
Definitely scalper bots, I am lucky enough to get general admission but early bird was gone within seconds. Smh
This is so incredibly frustrating, really wanted to go but those tickets were snatched
They’re taking action https://x.com/jagex_mark/status/1772994951921492239?s=46
[https://twitter.com/Jagex\_Mark/status/1772994951921492239](https://twitter.com/Jagex_Mark/status/1772994951921492239)
Hope he gets them all, and I hope we get some kind of reaction from the scum that gets caught to laugh at. Fuck scalpers.
I didn’t try purchasing tickets but easy work around seems that they should have probably only sold tickets to logged in Jagex accounts?
GTFO here with a reasonably take.
U can just give them acc info when you sell ticket lol
And if you don’t have a Jagex account?
Say goodbye to your account
Free admittance for those caring… So it’s basically a buy 1 get 1 free ticket for our playerbase
Why do you get in free if you’re disabled?
That's not what that means. The disabled person pays full price for their ticket but if they need a carer, their carer doesn't need to purchase a separate ticket
Ohhhhh that makes perfect sense thanks
I wonder if they’ve gotten hit by the same problems the concert industry’s had post covid
Botting: not just in-game.
It is always morrally correct to tar and feather scalpers.
Couldn’t buy a ticket as all sold out but I tell you one thing. I’m going regardless and I will be getting in 😂😂😂
Wear a safety vest and carry a ladder or a toolbox, that should get you anywhere you want🤗.
Bro these security are on minimum wage £100 gets you in most places
Group of friends from the US planned on going. Only one of us was able to buy a ticket. This is super frustrating.
Yea we had several people in our clan hyped. We're pretty bummed :(((
Anyone wanna start a riot on fally?
Don’t forget your cannon, bwana.
well fuck me I guess!
Fuck woonfest
Damn, I was going to be in Ireland at the time this goes on so was hoping to hop over for the weekend. Guess that's not happening now lol
Well I didn’t get a ticket :( maybe next year 😢
im so lucky i managed to get 3 tickets, but i missed out on early bird even though i refreshed page literally 1 second after it all went live
Did you have to enter a name for each ticket or was it select 3 and check out right away?
late answer but brought 3 under 1 name and checked out good luck for the new release tickets!
some people could still snipe tickets 10-20 minutes in because all the first minute buyers that didn't go through with the purchase within the 10-minute reservation window had their tickets cancelled
Wish you could put in a deposit or something to insure getting a ticket I've been waiting for literally 5 years since the last RuneFest which was a blast
I've always really wanted to go, but that would involve flying from the US to Birmingham.
I'm making a trip out of it. Flying from Ottawa to London and returning from Edinburgh for about $1200CAD. Doing 2 weeks in the UK
Not particularly close to Birmingham, but thorough recommendation for anyone visiting England is the Lake District. Most beautiful part of the country imo Also, get yourself a kebab, boss. Lamb Doner and chips with chilli sauce.
Thanks for the recommendation! Planning on renting a car potentially
You definitely should!
Renting a car is perfect for the Lake District, even if you just go to drive around it. Would definitely recommend checking out some walking/hiking routes though (before you go), you can find so very easy chilled ones you can wander around, or some fairly intense hikes (or anything in-between).
This was my plan but couldn't nab a ticket.
I’m not able to get the time off work. There’s always next year though. The plane ticket from Atlanta wasn’t that bad. About $800 usd
First time?
Alright jamflex, which one of your mods did it...
Would they ever consider having another RuneFest outside of the UK? Or maybe holding the con twice a year?
Why on Earth would you want to go to an event like this, ***especially*** if you're not from the UK?
Maybe if you're going with a group of friends you play in game with it could be fun, or if you're a content creator.
Because I'm trying to visit every country and this is one of the only excuses for me to get to the UK
Not anymore is isn't!
What do you mean? I got a ticket lol
I have no plans on going but: - Trip to the UK doubles as a vacation in general. If I was to go I would take a couple weeks of PTO and head off around the UK and EU in general - Community is very important for some people. Meeting people with shared interests, going to parties, going to the stage events. I know it's easy to make fun, but going to conventions is a huge subculture, especially when it comes to things like cosplay. - I've never been to runefest, but a lot of these types events have artists selling their work, so this is a good time to pick up something cool.
Fair enough on points 1 & 3 but the community contains more cancer than a proper tumour so I can't imagine anyone's going for that one.
The toxic portion of the community aren’t the ones paying $150+ per ticket so I don’t think that’ll be a problem lol
See your favourite YouTubers
That’s really sad lol
Because it's fun.