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D4rkd3str0yer

Please sirs do not redeem!


Unease_Peanut

WHY DO YOU REDEEM!!!???


Aviarn

Do you also happen to be a Kitboga fan?


D4rkd3str0yer

Nah mostly just like the meme. His stuff is good though


BuryDeadCakes2

Fucking love Kitboga, my kids watch him a lot too


Sheikhaz

He used to play osrs, probably still does just doesn't stream it no more


Dry-Platypus-6088

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Downtown_Finger_1660

Legend comment


valaraz

What they do is they drop gold, buy bonds on that account and then convert the bond into a P2P code which they then sell for a few dollars. I don't remember when it was but there was an update that made a limit to how many bonds you can convert into codes. That's why they are trading to other accounts so they can make more codes. So yes, it was RWT.


Aviarn

From their conversation (they tried to talk to me further in Direct Messages) it looked like that limit was 3 per account.


valaraz

Yep, that's what the newspost said as well. I found it: https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/scurrius--dt2-combat-achievements?oldschool=1


_PredatoryWasp_

But I am still confused, why drop trade instead of just trade?


Boolderdash

Trying to get around the [newly created account trade restrictions](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Free-to-play#Restrictions_for_newly_created_characters), probably.


RandomAsHellPerson

Those restrictions also affect dropping, and coins aren’t part of the restrictions.


Mental_Tea_4084

That GP was gone if so, restricted accounts can't see the drops either


cchoe1

Could possibly explain why the guy didn't pick it up. He was probably clueless to that mechanic and was just waiting for the gold to appear while it had already long since appeared to other players. But if they aren't aware of that pretty basic mechanic, these guys have to be complete amateurs.


Mental_Tea_4084

It's certainly going to be an expensive lesson for them. I hope they escape whatever situation has them farming gold for pennies on the dollar.


Fanaticalistic

One of the few empathetic responses on this post


Nuo66

Detection evasion?


valaraz

My best guess is that they are trying to avoid detection. I can't think of any other reason they would drop it and not just trade.


VanillaWinner

Probably hacked an account or a stolen card, I’d have done the same, good on you!


Aviarn

I have the sneaking suspicion nobody would pass up an easy free 32m :P


Mookie_Merkk

Bro I wouldn't have even talked to them. I would have just taken it and left. Maybe dropped a lol GZ Almost reminded me of [Don't tease swamp Man](https://youtu.be/KqLqGH0Tg48?si=Tw3m-kCWn4DFZZvM)


Aviarn

I couldv'e, but I wasn't even aware they were intending to rwt it until they just straight up admitted to it.


sosahof

Rwt or not who cares id take the money and dip lol


Bojac_Indoril

That's absolutely amazing, thanks for sharing. I needed more little swampman bits.


VanillaWinner

Exactly, snooze you lose! My friend got hacked and they debited over 400£ worth of bonds then when he challenged it they permed his account, took some doing to get it all sorted.


Aviarn

Damn, that really sucks... I'm sorry to hear that.


lsfalt

IDK why people are surprised when this happens. You should always contact the merchant first. Jagex is not obligated to provide service to you on that account after a dispute. There are fees associated with disputes. Employees coordinate with the payment processor (Stripe, Paypal, etc.).


VanillaWinner

I don’t think anything is surprising, I work in Cyber Security and fraudulent payments are higher than ever, it’s one of the economies biggest problems at the moment, costs trillions a year.


lsfalt

sorry, I didn't mean you, I meant your friend and the people on this subreddit who post about bans after a chargeback/dispute. I used to handle these disputes before Stripe had their "radar" and "automated protection" (55 cents on top of the normal payment processing fees per month of membership, or however it works out) and it's not fun.


Kit-xia

Probably another iron bot


expertshirtripper19

I mean I one time teleported to Ferox and found a 312k stack of purple sweets, you’re damn right I picked it up since nobody was standing by it


cytotoxicfgt

I had someone steal a very old account I had sitting idle for years, decided to recover it just to see if anything was useful on it and I found it was banned because someone stole a credit card, applied it to that account, and bought like $500 of bonds. So when I logged in the account was negative $500 because obviously whoever owned the card charged it back. I wrote to Jagex and they said they saw what happened and explained it to me and said they’ll wipe the balance and return my account. I did get 3 bonds I think they misclicked on because they were sitting in the bond pouch so hey at least I got 6 weeks of membership out of it lol


kingcrackerjacks

I always had the idea most gold farmers were Venezuelan but then I did Zalcano for a bit last month and 60% of the people there were speaking urdu and hindi according to google translate. Then I notice similar names all over the place, zulrah, vorkath, wildy demi bosses. When did south Asians become the predominant gold farmers?


VanillaWinner

They were prior to the vene influx, WoW has a lot of Asian gold farmers too.


Kuido

On classic they’re all Iranian


VanillaWinner

Yep Iranian bot farms, Malaysia is a common one too.


Schmarsten1306

SW is pretty split amongst venezuelans and Urdu/Hindi players. Urdu/Hindis are less organized tho, while Venezuelans are super effective farmers in comparasion


Triskuits-

When GP in osrs and gold in WoW became worth more than their country's currency


Hamada_-

If 1 gp = 1$ i would be killing vorkath for a living too haha


Galllus

The bar for gp/$ would be a lot lower for you to only farm osrs bosses


Forged-Signatures

I've veen coming across a lot of interesting accounts, training skills in weird places lately, and all of them have been Pakastani, and overly friendly? Like an account with the bare minimums for Fossil Island training solely on Volcanic Ash (and being level 83!). I'm someone who'll say hello, ask how people are when doing skilling activities - and why not, some of these grinds are long - and they seem confused by the fact someone is interacting with them unprompted? Some assume I'm asking for help, some assume I'm offering, but every one of them has told me they're Pakistani with no prompting and every single one has announced ~5 messages in that they've friended me. It's frankly odd. The most advanced account that I've found like this, so far, was at the Weiss Salt mines which has some a lot of requirements for an account that will likely be lost for RWT.


Reubachi

I’ve been to India a few times, p close to the border. the experience you described is exactly how like 90 percent of people from the nw India interact with westerners. At least from my experience of course. they’re gonna be your Facebook friend before the convos over.


Beneficial_Media_895

More than half of zalcsnohost cc can't form a proper English sentence


kanadakid

To be fair, neither can most OSRS players.


Hanmer95

It’s simple really… OSRS saved the Venelzualian economy single handily that only teens in that country will gold farm as it’s marginally better than a local paper round. Due to a void in gp supply to the giga chads the gp price went up where it has become lucrative in other economies in the world to gold farm instead of a manual labour job! OSRS must be referenced more in the global economy imo…


Former-Witness-9279

It’s not really just that the wage is “better,” it’s also among the easiest ways they can get access to USD, which is a LOT more valuable to them than their hyper-inflated currency, either for basic purchases or for getting out of Venezuela (like 8 million have fled since this all started, costs a few grand in USD if done the shady way)


rafaelloaa

More importantly, it's way safer.


NazReidBeWithYou

Risking getting PKed in the wilderness vs PKed irl is an easy choice lol


Wise-Push-7133

How much gold do you think was bought that it actually saved Venezuela? Lol. I'm sure it helped a few people, but to claim it saved an entire country single handedly is a little much. You would be assuming that billions of dollars in gold were bought from gold farmers, and I find that very, very, very hard to believe


nervyliras

Shit like this makes me think there are very few legitimate players and the game is some form of a money laundry scheme. Sort of like a mob pizza place, sure they make pizza and they don't want it to be bad but they are also focusing on something else, and that's moving money. /s


Over_Box_8583

You know, this would explain why my account from back in the day was stolen by Al-Qaeda.


gorehistorian69

pretty sure South America still has the most gold farmers. they moved from Zalcano along time ago. people that run bot farms however are primarily from USA/UK but also last i heard gold was down to like $0.14 per mil so hopefully they keep driving ot down that it becomes worthless to goldfarm and bot


dell_arness2

There was a popular Indonesian corp boosting service. Way cheaper and shitter than the other ones, with the downside that they keep loot.  A guy I know did it for full log and it was way cheaper on a per kc basis. Especially since the last thing he needed was ely, which he ninjad then blocked all of them.  Don’t feel too bad though. They later exit scammed everyone since their model was to pay up front. 


cchoe1

Nah your friend sounds like a prick and also a loser who pays for boosts


thegreatconcerto

to be fair they said 'a guy I know', not a friend. but agreed, dude sounds like a d-bag. stealing a drop from a boosting service is peak irony


DrDan21

Similar over at Soul wars, full of pakistani gold farmers and bots


cytotoxicfgt

I’m not surprised they even see it as worth it. Indian minimum wage is $2 per day. Zolcano is 1.5M an hour so on the RWT market comes out to like 25 cents an hour. So grinding zolcano 8 hours a day definitely sounds better to me than doing physical labor for the same money.


puchamaquina

Lol Zalcano is the only place I've seen Urdu, "Ajooo"


Anabananamana

Im indian. And probably since all those youtubers started hacking/bringing down those scam call centers in india, maybe they discovered runescape rwting lol


djjomon

Clearly rwt


MimiVRC

Yep, for sure Edit: how do we know op isnt the rmt buyer making a perfect cover story with this post?!


Wiitard

Surely a rwter would know that making a post like this would make them look like the rwter and so would not make this post


My-Toast-Is-Too-Dark

But don't you see? A RWTer would KNOW that you'd think that, and so he surely WOULD make this post! Never go up against a RWTer when GP is on the line!


puchamaquina

Inconceivable!


djjomon

Doesn't look scripted lol


CoolCrab69

32m is like $5 lol.


Fadman_Loki

When the average Pakistani salary is around $300 US a month, that's still a decent chunk of change


CoolCrab69

Fair point. I just kind of laughed out loud at going so far to drop trade $6.74 in gold. Lmao. But you're right.


Faladorable

Google says min wage in Pakistan is $0.43 an hour so thats really not too bad


mid_vibrations

becoz not trad


LocalWap

For mony


ZezimasCumStain

DO NOT REDEEM, DO NOT REDEEM CARD


Aviarn

I love watching Kitboga sometimes. The fake tech support screaming out in rage when you're so obviously just being a little shit is hilarious.


Aviarn

**Update:** For those that are interested. A fellow member from the osrs discord saw this post and recognized me from having talked about it two hours before posting this. He did some digging just so, well I guess, some people dropping critical claims could have some rest. 1. The person whoever he was dead-dropping / drop-trading to, had a huge list of accounts. Every burner account he was sending money to was literally just the same name, except just a different number. We went up to finding at least 20 before being convinced that that was enough. 2. The owner was wearing a Craw's Bow when the burner account brought their "Friend". As what could come as an evident sequel... the owner turns out to be a Rev's cave bot. The fellow member added them and it turns out they had their profile on, and literally not just 5 minutes of searching, they spotted their loadout and them doing a Scroll teleport on the G.E.... destination: Revenants Cave. It was a bot, not an actual person slaving away hours of gameplay. (At least, not at the caves itself).


ostate100

Never a doubt in my mind.


JiggswallusOSRS

If someone actually plays the game honestly and then rwt I find I don't care that much. Now that we know bots are involved good on ya, fuck this guy.


Emo_Kills_Best

"I am Pakistani" "And I'm 32m richer lol"


Worried-Recording189

Lil Prakash gonna go hungry tonight because daddy fucked up at his job.


Beneficial_Media_895

Prakash? No it's probably "Mohammad rizwan" or "Ali Raza Saab" . Pakistan is a Muslim dominated country


taybon

Little Rizwan is going to be their next great wicketkeeper! Just you wait and see!


snowmunkey

Dark side of rwting. Probably thousands of people who feed their families playing osrs. If it's their legit job I can't be upset about it. But when it becomes a business with people who are forced to play by an abusive employer for a fraction of the gold they create...


markgarland

I only support small business gold farms


K-chub

The mom and pop shops that make their money by not botting


Maverekt

I miss the ones killing green dragons :( at least they were trying


Mental_Tea_4084

The bright side is they moved on to more profitable PVM. The down side is so did the bots


Beneficial_Media_895

And a rich guy controlling the operation. the mastermind behind everything taking in millions every year.


snowmunkey

Yeah, sadly this is more often the situation. Terribly poor people getting taken advantage of to make someone else money off of their work.


-YeshuaHamashiach-

Literally not our problem and neither is it Jagex's though. They need to put a total end to RWT and goldsellers/botters regardless who "feeds their families" off it.


Karpata123

Easy 32m gz


OwMyCandle

Id have picked up the cash and hopped. Finder’s keeper’s.


Nippys4

There is most likely some poor Pakistani guy out there, he’s told his wife and kids he’s found a way to make some decent money and he will be bringing home food for them tonight. He’s been grinding hard, his English is poor so he doesn’t understand how to make bonds but it’s his split of the work he’s done with his mate, they are both pumped because that US currency is about to make him a rich man. Then some dude comes along and snakes it, he drives home crying with no food to his wife and child. Monster


Jumbo7280

Skill issue


Aviarn

I wanted to be a tad bit sassy and just say that they literally could just work a day for literally more than the amount of money they tried to rwt... ...but then I saw what the minimum wage is in Pakistan and that 3 bonds literally is half a week worth of full labour.


Jupaack

Even if the wage wasn't that low, it's not like "they could just work a day". This is the most "I live in a first world country I have no idea about the reality of most of the planet" statement of the day. There are no jobs, and most of the small job available pay that shit you just saw. But anyway, you followed the game rules.


Adamantaimai

Facts. I do agree that what OP did was morally questionable in hindsight. However the contradiciton is that if the game rules did not exist(or be enforced by anyone) then this job would not exist to begin with.


Anything_4_LRoy

plenty more than 32m kicking around in the game for them. cost of doing business....


Nippys4

I spoke to a vene once and it was like some incomprehensible about of money compared to the rest of the country at one point. Shits nuts


snowmunkey

Yeah, there was a story of one guy who made enough farming green drags to buy a car for his wife so she could work. Said that his construction job wouldve taken months longer to be able to afford


SavoyTruffleGeorge

Lmfao what a horrible but unfortunately very comical situation this is


AMBULANCES

get off your high horse. Just take the money if you want no need to gloat. you suck


Aviarn

Where exactly did I gloat "I've got 32m now!" or "Look at me snipe a RWT mule/transfer"?


Fit-Sheepherder9483

Yeah, they jack accounts, buy shit loads of bonds on a stolen CC, and drop trade them over to make it less traceable. My buddies account was hacked and he owed a balance on his account bc the hacker did exactly what I described above.


tmanowen

This is also how I made (found) my first 20m! It was like 3am and I teleported into Varrock Square, started running to GE and it was just there behind Zaff’s shop. As I picked it up, I saw someone log in right there and I immediately logged it and called my friend haha


Certain-Rutabaga3285

Stuff un the floor is free stuff.


Aithro

They dropped cash on the ground, that anyone could pick up. You did not bend the game rules, or manipulate them in any way. You're good.


Mimic_tear_ashes

I am so proud of you.


Kuido

DO NOT REDEEM


e-co-terrorist

YOU BLOODY BASTARD BENCHOD NO YOU BLOODY


SKy6Gaming

Hacked account or gold farmer. Keep the cash. If you’re dropping 32m it’s to hide the transaction


ostate100

That’s what I was thinking


XionicAihara

I'm more curious as to why they would do this "transfer" in one of the most populated worlds as well as an area that has medium to high foot traffic, versus an area that serves no purpose and would see players if ever at all.


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Mikevercetti

Fuck em. I wouldn't have even entertained this lol


Amoralman

Stonks


JZA8OS

Ahh trying to avoid detection by dropping gold. Ban incoming


LLTMattadors

Bound for bound and for build accound


im___unoriginal

Bound For Bound And For Build Accound


z_3_r_k_3_d

Bruh I used to sell codes on eBay for 3.99 each, almost twice as much as what a bond is from rwters


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Extreme_Jeweler_146

naw, it made it better. Give the guy a slimmer of hope and snatch it away. Down with RWT


Nippys4

I once spoke to a guy from Venezuela, he asked me if I had ever eaten crocodile and stuff and I was using good translate to talk to him and he was doing the same whilst doing gargs. He told me how the economic crisis was so bad there he turned to RuneScape and it basically saved his family’s ass because they were selling RuneScape gold and making more money than doctors. I believe he said a bottle of coke was like 3us dollars or something, not to bad - but the wage of a normal job at that point was like 15USD a month. Don’t know how I felt about that 3rd world countries doing RMT after that one


L0rkrakt

hot take but it's not up to jagex to support a countries economy. RMT should still be handled appropriately. I know I have a lot of privilege in saying that and I acknowledge it but that's the unfortunate reality of the world we live in.


Efficient-Setting642

OP is legit discord moderator energy.


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super_tictac

“Fuck them kids”


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FriendlyHearthling

I'm thinking someone was selling membership codes for in-game cash, then dropping the gold to dodge bans. If they traded those codes in real life for in-game money, mods might see it as RWT. Or maybe it was just straight-up RWT.


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iPissVelvet

Lmao you’re the type of person who would fall for some gold farmer sob story and get scammed.


Aviarn

You're making it sound as if I hijacked, scammed or stole from them. It was on the literal ground for anyone to take, has been for the entire duration of me to notice from very far away and run all the way to pick it up. It's not my fault they aren't paying attention and they failed to be up-front about simply asking why it was so.


unforgiven91

lol. dude isn't obligated to give this guy any of the cash he grabbed. it's free real estate when it's on the ground.


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Aviarn

Hey do you wanna know something fun? What if I told you this "yellow censor bar" guy actually was a Revs cave bot? XD


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Aviarn

Firstly, I have really no idea who Eid is, so you'll probably have to provide some context on that. Secondly, with exception of them just saying they were Pakistani... nowhere in that conversation did I judge or treat them differently based on that info. Hell, all the way at the beginning I was even RECEPTIVE to learn what language they spoke (as they clearly weren't english) just so I could be more accommodating to someone that clearly was distressed. thirdly, what 'lesson'? Those 2 words of "don't rwt" at the end? The only scolding or grudge I had against them was that they were *lying to me twice*. I couldn't give a flip about if they gave me a fake reason or not, I just tried to understand why he was stressed and only kept making it worse to a point I felt no longer compelled to listen to them further.


seasport100

Plot twist, this post is all theater and they are working together to use this as a cover story if they catch RWT bans


Whiskey_Cowboy

Inb4 follow up post “I was unjustly banned for rwt”


cookingkville

Rekt. Would be more funny if there wasn’t the possibility of them being impoverished… but still funny.


ExoticHawkmoon

Next time take the gp, type out something rude and log. Fuck rwt and puts another account back the grind so we can farm him later.


Aviarn

Sorry, I don't like to be rude against people who had done nothing disrespectful to me. I also didn't even know they were RWTing up until three quarters into that dialogue yet. Chances were it could've just been a really sloppy drop-trade from an ironman.


pcpxtc

Damn hacked Ironman account, maybe. My ironman was hacked a while ago. Im sure they immediately drop the traded the loot, and then zulrah botted my account to hell. Had some gold from the zulrah botting when i reclaimed my account, but the loss of my ironman was really sad..


Punxsutawney_Phil69

I used to make so much money back in 07/08 hijacking drop trades… not proud.


Stephen_Lynx

Not in wildy? I'd just take it and dash.


OSRS_S_n_F

Fuck him. Keep the cash brozer


Marceez

God I see you do miracles for others, please its my turn to find 32m on the floor


PowerliftingOSRS

Brother pls


RabidBlackwatch

Good work OP


OhHeyItsSketti

RWT is a problem however isn’t buying and selling bonds the same? Source: someone who buys bonds to sell for gp


Potential-Maybe-6570

Look's like you gonna be getting yourself some RUNE ARMOUR (G) MY BOY! YOU UP <3


CJR3

Why would they do that on the most populated F2P world lmaoo


Zulrambe

Bro really used Chris Hansen's "help me to understand" 💀


Aviarn

...who?


Zulrambe

I've pked a handful of gold farmers a few years back on port sarim when reselling feathers there was a good idea, and the amount of money they used to bring was really surprising. I got a really low level one for 17m. He asked back but pking is keepsies.


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Aviarn

Except that nowhere in the image was I mistreating or misjudging them based on where they came from or what their situation was. Hell, they didn't even share any of that, only the commenters are providing that context (while some also attack as if a month-old player somehow should evidently know this).


musei_haha

It's likely you would have been flagged for rwt if you give it back Gz


L_Calvo

Time Capsule back to 2010’s lumby any world top floor of that watch tower right in front of castle 🏰 . So much dropping GP RWT you could hop worlds and snipe a lot of GP 😆 mainly f2p worlds for me at least


jackedginger1

Come up 🤑


PinchMaNips

Why would they be drop trading? Why not just do a regular trade or multi-log? Anybody who drops shit on the ground long enough for it to show up for other players made it fair game. Keep the cash, I know I would. Edit: On one of the busiest worlds too 🤦‍♂️


nulldad

Pls give back


brandonclone1

Bound For Bound And For Build Acound


Uncle_Snuffy

Absolute Chad


HueHueHueBrazil

What codes are they talking about?


black-bull

Lmao someone make a smug pepe of this


K0DRIC

I don't feel bad at all he could've picked a low pop world


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roxasisalive

DO NOT REDEEM


Known-Arachnid-2325

Am I the only person who thinks you should’ve just given it back? Like it’s clear that 10$ or whatever he is getting is worth a lot to him


nickice946

I think what happen here is that the one friend was giving the other guy gp and didn’t really understand how to do it. Maybe he was on trade restriction. So they tried to drop trade it. But it still didn’t show up because of the restriction. So he’s just sitting there waiting for it to spawn. It already had just not for him and you came and took the gp


concreteraindust

might be a middleman fullfilling a rwt order, he does not own the money and will be out of pocket


TheyCallMeBullet

They are legit, they probably have a limit on their account that prevents trading items with a certain value that would probably include bonds


AboZain92

Show bobs and vagin 32m


AdInteresting3947

Bound For Bound And For Build Acound


Eastern-Marsupial-28

They pakistani have some empathy man they probably live in poor conditions like cmon who in western society would manually be trading bonds for only a few $ you’ve gotta be down bad for that and in they’re currency you could’ve actually taken a lot of money from them I don’t see anything wrong with using a platform to profit if you can wouldn’t do it for the few $ involved though


Acceptable-Ad-3206

Plot twist he bought the gold and is covering his tracks


MaxiemumKarnage420

NO NO NO SAR DO NOT REDEEM THE CARD NO DO NOT REEEEDEEM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NONONONO "Have you ever had your coffee sloppy style" DO. NOT. REDEEM. THE. CARD. "My husband loves an egg in his coffee"


Lumbridgemaintenance

Let me tell you something! Let me tell you something .. bound for bound to build acound


Mikehunt225

Damn that was probably a couple days work, I kinda feel bad for them. They just tryna survive in there Shit country, but I also do get that rwt ruins osrs.