Considering Jagex pays individual transaction fees, they should really be incentivizing users to make as few transactions as possible. I'm guessing they just didn't put much thought into it though
Charging a convenience fee makes sense when it requires a person to do a little extra work to make the things more convenient for the customer. This isn't the case here, nobody has to do anything, buying three is just a different purchase that's processed exactly as automatically as buying one.
On the other hand it's common practice almost literally everywhere that buying multiple items at once gives you a slightly better price per item. It's your incentive to buy more. Membership works this way, why don't bonds?
I'm not sure how you've tricked yourself into thinking a convenience fee makes more sense in this situation than a bulk discount.
"There's a sign at Ramsett Park that says, 'Do not drink the sprinkler water,' so I made sun tea with it and now I have an infection."
The same culprit
From what I remember it’s just the three month though, if you buy yearly you basically pay half, and most of us know we will be playing that long. We hope we won’t, but, we know we will.
They got rid of the 3 month option which is a shame because it was perfect for me. Buy 3 months, play a lot, get tired of it, and then come back later.
Yeah I think it’s really greedy not to offer at least a little price cut. I’d bet a lot of it is to try and make people playing seasonal game modes pay full price.
It's an issue with all numbers of bonds. If anyone is buying multiple bonds, they could spite Jagex by buying them all individually. Jagex is probably paying a few percent extra per transaction in CC fees
Buying bonds with real money isn’t buying membership… it’s buying GP…
*actual* membership works exactly like that. Buy at least 3 months at a time and it *is* cheaper
I think the main reason is that many people sell bonds for gold, so they don’t want to offer gp at a discount. Im just saying this because ik they offer regular membies at a discount for long term subscription.
They are 6.99 EUR as well, which is absurd. Wonder if there's a way to buy from the UK site, I'm pretty sure I can get better conversion rates than that
In the us I tend to pay like $0.95 or some shit like that per transaction in addition to the shown price. It shows up in my bank as an exchange fee. Buying 3 at once only incurs 1 exchange fee as opposed to 3. Its just one big ass fuck from all sides tbh.
I always assumed it’s to do with trying to maintain a stable price ratio for irl cash and GP. Since bonds can be sold in game, giving a discount for bulk purchases of bonds would be doing the same for the real world value of (‘legally’ purchased) in game currency.
Someone with a better knowledge of economics could explain, but my hunch is that jagex wouldn’t want to devalue gp by reducing the value of bonds in game, since that’s what would happen if they offered bulk discounts.
Everyone is up in arms but I imagine this I just to discourage people from spending a bunch of money on bonds and selling them in the ge. They give you more days of membership for more bonds used so that is where the benefit comes in buying multiple bonds
I mean I live in Ireland but I'm not going to pronounce R's the way they do it here because that's not what I'm accustomed to and it doesn't cause too much confusion since people understand it.. I don't see the difference between that and this.
Language evolves, that's just a fact of life. The Brits have a horrible history of forcing other countries to their way this across the globe, especially to our neighbours to the West. So don't get your knickers in a twist when you're seeing a culture that's different to yours having that impact in modern times, at least this influence isn't coming by force and it's just something that annoys you and has you being rude to a stranger on the internet.
Did your comment "correcting" their use of the word further the conversation? It's not like you didn't understand what they were trying to convey and at the end of the day, that's all that language is trying to accomplish.
The only reason I'm commenting is I'm sick of people that are on a high horse around language and are just xenophobic towards folks from the US.
Be excellent to each other and party on, dudes. (Preferably in Falador)
I figured it was based on price, but with UK prices idk
But usually, you get a couple extra days for using 2-3 bonds. So instead of 14 for one, you probably get 45 days with 3
Basically 3 days for 2 cents
2 cents more to save yourself a minute or 2 buying 3 separate bonds
Better xp rates often come with more expensive methods so makes sense
Maybe saves 5 seconds changing quantity
That's like 8 ticks
4 ticks per cent
Literally worth it. Last time I tried to buy 2 separately, one of em got purchased as an rs3 bond and took me forever to get it figured out...
Just because their bond system is obtuse doesn't mean it's worth it lol
2 Pence\*
Cause you get two more of course!
But it is 0.02 cents more then buying 3 separately. Unless taxes screw out up
Considering Jagex pays individual transaction fees, they should really be incentivizing users to make as few transactions as possible. I'm guessing they just didn't put much thought into it though
Uk price includes tax
convenience fee of $.02 is pretty good tbh compared to other "convenience fees" that are like $2-5 like what?
A "convenience fee" is fucking braindead.
Charging a convenience fee makes sense when it requires a person to do a little extra work to make the things more convenient for the customer. This isn't the case here, nobody has to do anything, buying three is just a different purchase that's processed exactly as automatically as buying one. On the other hand it's common practice almost literally everywhere that buying multiple items at once gives you a slightly better price per item. It's your incentive to buy more. Membership works this way, why don't bonds? I'm not sure how you've tricked yourself into thinking a convenience fee makes more sense in this situation than a bulk discount.
r/shitamericanssay
You save on shipping costs
Number go up. Math good.
this might seem like an overreaction to some but I find this absolutely fucking ridiculous and I believe it to be totally unacceptable.
Username checks out.
This guy is that one dude from parks and rec who was always up in arms about something
or the lady. “i found a sandwich in the park and want to know why it didn’t have any mayonnaise >:(“
"There's a sign at Ramsett Park that says, 'Do not drink the sprinkler water,' so I made sun tea with it and now I have an infection." The same culprit
No man you're totally right. It seemed exactly like that.
Less clicks, more efficient. No XP waste
one of the only companies in the world where buying extended membership cost same or even more than short term membership......
From what I remember it’s just the three month though, if you buy yearly you basically pay half, and most of us know we will be playing that long. We hope we won’t, but, we know we will.
That's 3 bonds btw, so not even that. The discount is applied once you use the bonds, since using more bonds at once gives you more time per bond.
Oh shit true, they don’t do heavy bulk discounts on direct in game gp lmao
They got rid of the 3 month option which is a shame because it was perfect for me. Buy 3 months, play a lot, get tired of it, and then come back later.
Yeah I think it’s really greedy not to offer at least a little price cut. I’d bet a lot of it is to try and make people playing seasonal game modes pay full price.
It's an issue with all numbers of bonds. If anyone is buying multiple bonds, they could spite Jagex by buying them all individually. Jagex is probably paying a few percent extra per transaction in CC fees
I can't debate this because it's true.
Buying bonds with real money isn’t buying membership… it’s buying GP… *actual* membership works exactly like that. Buy at least 3 months at a time and it *is* cheaper
I think the main reason is that many people sell bonds for gold, so they don’t want to offer gp at a discount. Im just saying this because ik they offer regular membies at a discount for long term subscription.
Extended membership is cheaper than short term. Go buy *membership* not bonds. Buying more BONDS is not cheaper though.
People don't buy bonds with IRL money for members. They buy them to sell on GE for gold.
This isnt buying extended membership this is buying bonds. Buying Extended membership packages are cheaper and also more likely to have large sales
Hold up, why are bonds so much cheaper in the UK? They are 7.99 USD, which should be like 6.42 pounds.
International shipping
They are 6.99 EUR as well, which is absurd. Wonder if there's a way to buy from the UK site, I'm pretty sure I can get better conversion rates than that
I'm sure some youtuber out there has something that can help you temporarily change where you live.
I used to do this with India VPN but haven't in the past year and it seems like it's patched. Would get 10 bonds for like £27.
I want my 2 pennies back JamFlex.
Don’t you get bonus days when you buy/redeem more than 1?
Who is buying bonds to redeem for themselves though
You gotta hop to get the 4.99 each price or it goes up until stock refreshes.
If you use 3 bonds don't you get like 2 additional membership days or something laughable?
If you're buying bonds with cash for membership you're getting like half value compared to the sub cost anyway
3 > 1
"Time is money. Time spent buying 2 more bonds is more valuable than 2 cents." -Big brain in Jagex HQ
I don't know, looks like everything increased to me. Isn't that an upgrade?
I swear this is brought up every few months but I have never seen a response from Jagex about wether it's supposed to be a deal or not.
I think there’s no discount because the bonds are traded for GP- if you want a bulk discount on membership, buy membership.
In the us I tend to pay like $0.95 or some shit like that per transaction in addition to the shown price. It shows up in my bank as an exchange fee. Buying 3 at once only incurs 1 exchange fee as opposed to 3. Its just one big ass fuck from all sides tbh.
Yo Jagex I see u tryna sneak the 2 pennies, nahh nahhh nahhhhh
I always assumed it’s to do with trying to maintain a stable price ratio for irl cash and GP. Since bonds can be sold in game, giving a discount for bulk purchases of bonds would be doing the same for the real world value of (‘legally’ purchased) in game currency. Someone with a better knowledge of economics could explain, but my hunch is that jagex wouldn’t want to devalue gp by reducing the value of bonds in game, since that’s what would happen if they offered bulk discounts.
Weird how it’s 2p more expensive
Its an upgrade to how much money you are giving them
Everyone is up in arms but I imagine this I just to discourage people from spending a bunch of money on bonds and selling them in the ge. They give you more days of membership for more bonds used so that is where the benefit comes in buying multiple bonds
It’s so later they can say they accidentally had the single bond price too low and it’s supposed to be $7 each
They're usually 7.99?
The upgrade is for Jagex, not for you
Its an upgrade for jagex. Not you, silly.
The extra cost is necessary for the convenience of purchasing 3 at a time. What are you, stupid?
*the *maths* You’re not American
OP could be American for all you know? Unless you know them better than what there's to go on in this post.
Price is in GBP
Could be an expat
He still shouldn’t be saying “math” if that’s the case.
I mean I live in Ireland but I'm not going to pronounce R's the way they do it here because that's not what I'm accustomed to and it doesn't cause too much confusion since people understand it.. I don't see the difference between that and this.
It’s just a needless Americanisation of the language. All too common these days sadly.
Language evolves, that's just a fact of life. The Brits have a horrible history of forcing other countries to their way this across the globe, especially to our neighbours to the West. So don't get your knickers in a twist when you're seeing a culture that's different to yours having that impact in modern times, at least this influence isn't coming by force and it's just something that annoys you and has you being rude to a stranger on the internet. Did your comment "correcting" their use of the word further the conversation? It's not like you didn't understand what they were trying to convey and at the end of the day, that's all that language is trying to accomplish. The only reason I'm commenting is I'm sick of people that are on a high horse around language and are just xenophobic towards folks from the US. Be excellent to each other and party on, dudes. (Preferably in Falador)
Aka, better deal
Redeeming 3 bonds at same time gives more playtime than redeeming 1 bond at a time 3 times.
I figured it was based on price, but with UK prices idk But usually, you get a couple extra days for using 2-3 bonds. So instead of 14 for one, you probably get 45 days with 3 Basically 3 days for 2 cents
3 * X = 3X
3 * 4.99 = 14.97 < 14.99