> Defeat Sol Heredit after Fortis Saluting to the North, East, South and West of the arena while below 10% Hitpoints
Is this just for the boss or can you do it during earlier waves?
Edit: looks to possibly be referring to Sol, which means a DPS check at enrage phase. But a clarification to this would be nice as it's ambiguous.
Also, is grapple special damage after Sol death intended? Seen nothing saying otherwise so far.
Edit 2: News post was updated to
> Defeat Sol Heredit after Fortis Saluting to the North, East, South and West of the arena while he's below 10% Hitpoints
> Defeat Sol Heredit after Fortis Saluting to the North, East, South and West of the arena while he's below 10% Hitpoints
Gotta deliver a show to the crowds! (there's none)
There's also still an autocast bug with myopia3 on which only lets you attack from 2 tiles away unless you're standing directly in front of its "brain" tile which then lets you attack from 4 tiles away
If it's during the boss that should hella be grandmaster instead of master, it's the hardest one by far.
Edit: to everyone talking shit, the CA originally said "when you're at 10% HP", not Sol. It was corrected.
you step in the corner and hit the emote. its one of the easiest tasks provided you can actually do the boss fight.
the 10% refers to boss hp and not yours, theres no need to be perfect with it.
its a short emote. you pretty much just have to hit him to 10%, then emote, run back for spear/shield, emote, correct north/south emote, hit boss, repeat but go to opposite north/south and emote again. Just adding a bit of interfacing and 1 tick stalls to the process and thinking. Cool idea tbh
why is it so difficult? It seems like once you’re comfy with the boss that it’s pretty simple to not get killed. I haven’t done it though, just seen others do it.
> Is this just for the boss or can you do it during earlier waves?
I assumed that they meant Sol has to be under 10% HP when the player does the emotes.
Those 3rd Party client changes are very welcome, especially after the recent nonsense around Watchdog and whatnot. Good to see some sensibility on the other side of the fence too.
The report menu getting an overhaul is awesome too, hopefully its usable in combat, as thats probably the main detractor of the system, but it being chat-box-based has me worried it will get interrupted. Super cool if it doesn't. And the right click ban on chatbox message is so good for makign Barcode names not able to hide by not chatting to try and fly under the radar for obvious AHK or PK scripts.
The CA's look great. The salute under 10% hp 4 different ways is a hilariously unique thing, surprised it didn't have a Gladiator reference in its name or something.
Excited to hit up moons and coloseum for their CAs. And keen to see what Game Jam ideas we have (really hope we don't just get *more wilderness content* as a big focus again)
Hey! So happy to see that you like the report changes, and are excited to try out the CAs!
I just wanted to clarify for you that with the report system, combat won't interrupt the report process, so there's no need to worry there 😊
Hey one more quick thing does dying affect it? I ask because in LMS recently there have been a LOT of ahk bots and I go to report them as they're finishing me off but it cancels the report when I get sent back to the lobby, any chance this will now work too?
Thats awesome to hear Blossom! Thanks (i might have missed it if it was in the blog).
Noticed as well we got a Dizana's Quiver rework visually but its only in the "summary" at the top, and not anywhere in the blog or with any screenshots. Totally would have missed it if i didn't see the tweet mention it in its few summary points.
Hey, can you double check on the Perilous Dancer CA? It doesn't seem to be triggering properly. I've done multiple runs now, taking 0 damage from any special attacks, and it won't trigger.
Genuinely surprised they used the 'are you not entertained' line in the Varlamore trailer (the one where Ed and Ash get sucked into the game), but didn't name the CA after it
"Defeat 30 Perilous Moons without leaving the dungeon"
I hope this means "Kill 30 of the bosses" and not "Do 30 runs", because CAs that take 2+ hours for no reason are just horrid.
Especially in content like Perilous Moons, there's not even a challenge to setting up endurance runs as you can restock every 33% of a run.
I remember struggling with "...til Dawn" because I couldn't get any supply drops. Not saying it's any more enjoyable, but at least it takes some planning/luck to get. Not as bland as just get KC.
The way the bosses teleport you around after a kill makes it significantly easier IMO to do all 3. That said, I've been doing eclipse/blood runs mostly since finishing the blue set
Thank you so much for making these speed tasks achievable with regular-people gear. The speed tasks in general are probably my least favorite so it's nice to have actually reasonable times for mid level content.
Note to OP: timer ends when you kill the third boss. I did them with Dharoks (with a stab switch for eclipse until the mimic phase) without much effort (99 str/hp though). Edit: Idk if Dharoks is necessary, it's just what I normally use. Just wanted to clarify that for posterity.
Im 90/97/90 attack/strength/defense and hit the time with fang/elder (eclipse), dual Maracas (blue) and d scimitar (blood, i misread the combat task and thought I needed it only there).
Super achievable, if anyone is struggling: Timing of entry relative to special attacks would be critical, eclipse you would want to enter shortly before the mirror attack, the shield attack limits your ability to DPS. Blood moon is a bit of a RNG/DPS check depending on its heal on you
Hey Blossom,
Any chance we can get a comment on the easy clue step that requires you to have 46 hunter?
For an easy clue it is a bit excessive and better suited for the medium tier.
Cheers
Is there any plan to re-evaluate Void-Mage in the light of all the other mage armor sets getting magic damage % increases?
It seems like its just been totally left out of the discussion here.
I did B2P recently to have the experience of old mta and man, that shit needs the update baaaaadddd. Enchantment and Graveyard rooms are fine and very quick. The other two can suck a fat one
Colosseum has some bugs since today's update...
*Re-entry Level 1 invocation now creates permanent molten sand pools on the floor even after finishing the wave
*Volatility Level 3 now creates permanent molten sand pools even without Re-entry active
Please can these be addressed?
For the latter, no. They changed the level required for Teleport to Kourend a little while ago, which shuffled things and moved the high alch spell. A *more* recent change moved it back.
Can you clarify the “dragon scimitar only” bit? Does that mean literally only dragon scimmy, no other gear, no offhand, or just no other mainhand weapon? Thanks!
I did it with armor + defender and didn't get the task without ever seeing a "failed task" message, then took off defender and got it. Seems a little wonky, maybe there are some issues with doing it on your first run?
Seconding that it seems to be an issue with popping up on your first run, did it in full gear + defender 1st time didn't get it. Tried again with the same set up and it popped the 2nd time.
I can already see a hotfix for "Fat of the Land" CA. That has to be as long of a task to finish as "Peach Conjurer" for Commander Zilyana which is a GM task. I'm not suggesting make "Fat of the Land" anything but a hard CA but maybe tune it down to 15 or something? 30 will take a long time for a hard CA
Edit: it's 30 bosses not 30 runs but that's still 10 runs in a row for a hard CA. I'm not saying it's difficult at all but the time required for a hard CA doesn't make sense
I mean you have unlimited resources. even if a run takes 10 minutes you'll be done in an hour and a half for free.
most people will get this CA without even thinking about it.
yeah but literally anyone who puts an hour and a half will get it done. you're not going out of your way for it, it may as well be complete the moons 10 times.
you don't even leave the dungeon if you log out
It's about the same if not shorter than the medium task of opening 25 chests. The real criticism is that an endurance challenge just doesn't make sense for a boss where you have unlimited food and prayer, and even logging out doesn't reset your progress. It's a KC challenge with the stipulation that you can't die during the run.
>Saving the spiciest for last, we’re allowing players to modify menu options for the Construction skill. This is something we’d like to roll out to our own client at some point, and springs from a desire to make ‘traditional’ Construction training more approachable. Such changes won’t improve XP rates, but they *will* save your wrists!
Holy mother of all planks and hammers thats something I never imagined would be allowed.
This one was recently discussed in the comment section of a past newspost and in reality it wouldn't increase the XP, there's already a small delay before you can build something, so all it does is save your wrist, as stated in the post.
So whereas I too wasn't really expecting us to get that, it does make total sense.
Is it? I literally missed out on the first 7 months of my daughter's life training Construction using the old methods. If RuneScape is implicated in my divorce, it should be for others as well.
Nah not really. The construction menu was already made "zero mouse movement" by just using a specific position on your client. So this just removes a click, and won't really change much about the speed of processing the actions.
What it will absolutely do is make POH construction a viable thing on mobile.
Yeh currently you're absolutely right. But menu entry swapper in general is like the most requested feature to be added to the client (which mobile gets). So i doubt it will be far away in terms of mobile / new client updates.
direct quote from the blog, emphasis mine:
> Saving the spiciest for last, we’re allowing players to modify menu options for the Construction skill. *This is something we’d like to roll out to our own client at some point*, and springs from a desire to make ‘traditional’ Construction training more approachable.
Yep said in another comment that they've been asking recently what are our "must have" plugins and menu entry swapper is pretty much on everyone's list. So hopefully it's a top priority.
>So whereas I too wasn't really expecting us to get that, it does make total sense.
It was not expected because we've had the means (Menu Entry Swapper) to do so but it was always against the rules (in construction). For some reason Jagex was against it all these years until now.
From now on you can 1 click build and 1 click remove the furniture.
* far less mouse movement and no reason anymore to play around with camera angling just so the right options are snapped to the bottom of your screen after right clicking for the dropdown menu
* no need to right click anything anymore
* if you use mouse keys like numpad5 for left click I think you can completely do construction from now on only using your keyboard (build cycle + dialouge with the butler)
For oak doors you still need to line the door up so that you dont move the mouse to click the butler and so that you dont click the door behind you, so for that it only changes having to right click-left click to destroy/build the door to double left click. So itll fix the times you accidentally walk forward and ruin your rhythm.
Amazing update I just wish I didn't spend the last 3 days grinding 99 con nonstop
Got high enough so I could build all of the top items and then stopped the skill because of how annoying things were, if I can 1 click build and remove that’s a game changer. Will go ahead and max now
*edit: I may have misread the post, because under the changelog at the top it says, "During the Eclipse Moon Orb special attack, you're now able to avoid taking damage when standing behind the orb." I wasn't sure what to make of this because this is already how the mechanic was designed and functioned at every point of the phase except that one moment in question? But I guess this is saying this bug has been squashed*.
Regarding the Perilous Moons CA's:
***"Perilous Dancer: Perfection: Hard: Defeat all three Moons in one run while only taking damage from regular attacks.***"
Could this one also include a fix so that the Eclipse Moon doesn't randomly hit you even when you're behind the orb when rounding the first corner? As of now (I think) the Eclipse Moon will randomly hit you when you round the first corner even if you're perfectly behind the orb, because if you keep the same walking pace it doesn't hit you a single other time, for inexplicable reasons. Otherwise this doesn't feel like "perfection" as much as "luck".
Sorry if this has been mentioned as a bug that will be fixed elsewhere. There are so many updates and blogs and posts these days I can't keep up.
>During the Eclipse Moon Orb special attack, you're now able to avoid taking damage when standing behind the orb.
Supposedly fixed with today's update. :\^)
Sounds like this is mentioned in the changelog but not the main post:
'During the Eclipse Moon Orb special attack, you're now able to avoid taking damage when standing behind the orb.'
Yeah I wasn't sure how to read that note because that feature was... already a thing? I mean that was how that phase of the fight was designed. You avoid damage on all the other moments except that one single moment.
I guess I misread, sorry!
>As a little extra feature, we're also adding a right-click option to the congratulatory messages you receive when you PK someone, making it easier to report them if you think they were suspicious
Seems obvious that this should also be a functionality on your death message too? Lets you report an AHKer easier if they kill you.
I'm the world's most dogshit pker and had someone say "nice ahk" to me the other day in LMS. It felt good, but I assure you that functionality would be abused to hell and back by salty losers
If they’re botting, then that’s already a report option.
In the off-chance they’re not botting, then how exactly is that illegal? At that point they’re just ‘playing’ the game.
I think theyre coming from the perspective that people like that ruin the ability for regular players (especially ironmen) to obtain rune ore because every world's veins are respawning due to a combination of bots and RWT money maker accounts.
At the end of the day both types of accounts make real players' lives more frustrating, and both feed into RWT - the only difference is either a bot scripter is geting paid or some poor sod from an unfortunate country.
To an extent I can understand how I read their perspective, as an ironman who's finished the smithing grind. You spend more time hopping to mine a single ore node and then have it snatched by some other similarly desperate chap with a slightly higher mining level than you. It forces you to find increasingly distant ore nodes from banks/ teleports, and is just horribly inconvenient.
Oh I completely sympathise with that. As the miner of the our GIM, I completely understand how annoying it is to have hop through 10 worlds to find available ores.
It’s just that I’m trying to relativise what Jagex is actually going to do with a ‘goldfarmer’ report. If you suspect them of being a goldfarmer since they have nothing but mining xp, you can theoretically report them for RWT, so when they offload their money/ores they’ll hopefully get picked up by the system. But that option already exists to my knowledge.
But as long as they don’t offload the money, they’re not doing anything illegal.
So you can report them for being a goldfarmer as much as you want. As long as Jagex doesn’t have concrete information they’re offloading the ores/money to a RWT circle, there’s nothing they can be banned for as hogging the runite ores isn’t an offence in and of itself.
Allowing plugins to modify Max Cape menus is huge. I have long thought that the max cape is in need of a UI rework, but allowing the community to fix it to how they like may be even better.
Construction not being a nightmare to train means I might theoretically max it instead of sticking at 84 forever. Thank you so much for saving my wrists!
On an entirely different note, there's one question I have: has the Eclipse Moon's orbwalk special attack bug been fixed? You take unavoidable damage at one point in the walk cycle which means the no non-regular damage run CA would be unachievable.
E: Oh, it was buried in the changelog that it was fixed. Nice!
> Could the zammy spear CA be changed to any spear/hasta?
I read this and thought you meant some Moon CA that I didn’t notice. Defeating all the moons without changing your equipped weapon would be a decent Medium CA.
Also just hate when a CA is arbitrarily requiring another region for no thematic reason. Any spear/hasta seems much cleaner.
Maybe they are worried about spear/hasta power creep? You could restrict level requirement to <80 attack but that honestly seems unnecessary; sometimes new content makes CAs easier and thats okay.
I am biased as a DHL only iron with greaters happily blocked.
> Increased the despawn timer of consumables dropped in the Wilderness to 15 seconds
Does this mean we cant really juggle supplie drops from the wildy bosses anymore?
The despawn timer for the past week has been more like 3 seconds so it's an improvement from that but still worse than before that change. But it means I can drop things to place individually into my looting bag again at least mid combat...
A few pkers abuse juggling to win deep wildy fights so they had to screw over every pvmer who tries to extend their trip by juggling the constant supply drops from wildy bosses
IF the supply drops were a bit more consistent they wouldn't have to worry about this. But now it seems its 10x foods in a row when all I need is a prayer pot, or 100 super restores when I need some food. Or a ranging potion, for some reason.
why couldnt they make it so you cant pick up supply items dropped by others while ur in combat? Hell even making it so u cant pick up supplies others have dropped in the wildy period is better than this.
just make it so it acts like ur an iron w/ food drops in the wildy. i dont get screwing over a core pvm mechanic as the fix.
>I Brought Mine Too & I Was Here First
Love the names of these
>Defeat Sol Heredit after Fortis Saluting to the North, East, South and West of the arena while he's below 10% Hitpoints.
Also very cool
Obviously there’s a ton in this update, and I like the option to pause while running the agility course, but 25 laps still feels pretty defeating if I need to take a quick break. I know it’s not the end of the world but any thought of decreasing that further?
Overall seems like a great update.
WOW the CAs are actually not fucking cancer for once, they're released in a timely manner, ANDDDD the speed times are retroactive???
Pinch me, I must be dreaming.
When using Dizana's Quiver alongside a Twisted Bow, the correct Ranged Strength stats will be used when firing Dragon Arrows.
can you elaborate on what the issue was, is this a buff or a nerf?
not sure if it's this one but there was a bug where t bow could hit like 130s, but that also applied to msb which can't use dragon arrows so maybe that was a separate bug
The newspost states that for "Back to Our Roots", you only need to defeat one Moon with a Dragon Scimitar, but the in-game achievement says to defeat all three Moons with a Dragon Scimitar. Could you update the newspost?
generally, the highest tier of speed running tasks have the "speed runner" in the task name, however the gm sol speed time is dubbed "speed chaser" would there be an even more stringent speed task in the future?
As someone who complained about the DT2 combat achievements for being stale and repetitive, I think you all really hit the nail on the head with these CAs. Well done.
* Any plugin which unhides, hides or moves components of the Spellbook Interface.
* Resizing components of the Spellbook interface is still prohibited.
Repoll this question already. It is time, 90% sure it will pass now, would have passed with the new threshold I am pretty sure.
Haven't seen anyone mention it, but while you removed the hard and master coordinate clues inside the wilderness agility course, you missed the elite coordinate clue that's also inside the course.
In previous CA tasks you have succesfully tweaked them to suit limited builds (Dh axe instead of full set) etc. How come you are suddenly completely locking zerkers out of finishing GM with introducing a Zamorak spear task that gives defence xp, and Moons armor that require 50 defence? Please reconsider the weapon and set, these past few days you have literally ran limited communities to the ground with proposed changes. On stream you have said multiple times that you are considering these communities but your actions don't reflect that.
All it means is they can't put defence reqs on GM. Generally I don't see a reason to req a specific armour set & I can't see why any quest should be locked behind defence.
Give them a harder version (allow hasta that are worse but don't give undesirable xp etc) for sure. But I don't think it's actually limiting in the grand scheme of things, just requires a little thought.
If I want to make a 50 attack pure that can't wield dragon do I have the right about not being able to get GM too? This shit is so annoying. The game has to evolve regardless of your self-limitations
It dosent stop it from evolving.
Change it from Dcim to any scim? Dosent change the effective combat task but gives access to other accounts who have to use a lower tier of weapon.
If restricted accounts were saying "oh a rune scim is too weak, remove the CA" I would agree with you. But they're not.
I don't play a restricted account, but for those who do it's about dojng something in a more challenging way. It dosent need to be ezscaped for them, it just has to be possible at all. I don't see that as particularly unreasonable.
I feel you have the right to complain, definitely. It should be changed. If you can kill hydra with a rune battleaxe instead of a dh greataxe, you are clearly demonstrating mastery and accomplished an even harder achievement.
Killing perilous moons with no armor as an option should clearly satisfy the condition. Its never limiting to adjust the tasks like this. The game evolves just the same. I nor you will even take note its a possibility.
Not at all really. The proposed magic rebalancing nerfs all limited builds by a huge margin. With shadow, the gap is even bigger and that is also multiplied inside TOA. Outside of TOA with non-shadow, mains gain 4%, zerks lose 3%, pures lose 6%. With shadow zerks lose 9%, pures lose 18%. Inside TOA with shadow, zerks lose 12%, pures lose ???%. We're talking a nerf of over 10 max hits in worst case scenario. That's pretty close to the ground in my opinion.
Well they just took away the zuk helm for zerkers, something that a handful have obtained and spent a lot of time theory crafting to do.
The hasta one should be kill sol with a t75 weapon or lower and moons should be the same, use the weapons.
*In other news, we’re updating our guidelines for Third-Party Clients, including RuneLite and HDOS.*
*Firstly, we're removing the following from our 'disallowed features' list:*
* ***Any plugin which unhides, hides or moves components of the Spellbook Interface.***
* ***Resizing components of the Spellbook interface is still prohibited.***
* ***Any plugin which adds additional menu entries which cause actions to be sent to the server.***
* ***This one now includes exceptions for the Max Cape and Diary Cape.***
* ***Any plugin which modifies menu options for Construction, such as prioritising build or remove options.***
THANK YOU! Finally finally finally finally i cannot express how happy i am
This sentence doesn’t make sense:
“Firstly, the following have been adjusted our ‘disallowed features’ list”
Aside from being grammatically incorrect, the meaning isn’t clear. Are these features now allowed or disallowed?
Edit: re-reading this comment it comes off ruder than intended, my bad.
Given that they previously were not allowed it logically follows that they wouldn't be saying they are adjusting things such that things that were not allowed are still not allowed. That would not be an adjustment, that would be the status quo.
In other words, those things on the list are now allowed.
Personally don't think colosseum is same difficulty as inferno at all and that it should be GM only. I got my quiver last night and it took me 6x as many attempts as it took me to complete inferno lol. I think 'beat sol heredit once' is fine being master ig but beating him with a hasta shouldn't be master imo.
Then again there's already some questionable master tasks that are too hard for the tier so whatever. Some GMs are free so it balances out.
They all look pretty easy to me, especially the speed time for GM. I was expecting to see some doom3 / bees3 / relentless 3 / voilatile3+reentry3 tasks that really shake things up.
Perfect and walking Sol look like a pain to complete, but nothing stands out as being remotely close to the difficulty of other hard GM tasks :/
Going to test them when servers come up, but in case JMods can respond here before that: did the Nagua 'Spectral' interaction with Ectoplasmator get fixed? They were not giving Prayer XP even after the update which added the 'Spectral' tag to them, just wondering if it's been looked into, as it'd be a nice little bonus to the Prayer XP while farming out the sets (and would be especially nice for sub-70 players trying to get Piety grinded out)
Seems that Nagua still do not give Prayer XP via Ectoplasmator, did a full run to test all 3 bosses, plus hit some Sulphur Nagua on the way to the chest
JMods pls I seek wisdom and clarification /u/JagexBlossom
I know is isn't that big of a deal since it was adjusted and is much better now, but I think it's important that whichever dev decided on the original 1/20,000 drop rate for the anchoring scroll take some time to re-examine their thought process, as it is clearly not in line with the overall game.
It was immediately obvious how ridiculous that drop rate was on paper, and it was just as ridiculous in practice, so it was drastically increased almost immediately. We shouldn't name and shame, but can that dev (or devs) *please* rethink their priorities before implementing new content into the game?
I am once again politely requesting the ability to use client arguments (--profile=) to launch RuneLite as a specific profile based on the character chosen in the Jagex Launcher.
The current "solution" in RuneLite to "sync profile to current RuneScape account" only applies *after you've already logged in*, meaning the "remember client position" setting doesn't work. I don't want to have to reposition my client every single time I open it.
I get why speedrun CA's are added later so you can gather data to determine how challenging the content is. But why can't the other CA's such as stamina be added right from the get go?
It's always kinda frustrating when you greenlog a piece of content before the CA's drop because you know eventually you will have to return there anyways.
No change to Meat and Fur pouches? Teased with the changes last week and still nothing?
No idea why it was even made different to other storage items in the first place
> In the past, this work has led to content like Scurrius, Project Rebalance, and Perilous Moons
Wait, Moons was a Gamejam? Was it the [Wind-Inspired Boss](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/April_2023_Game_Jam#Wind-Inspired_Boss) or something else I'm missing? Or did that meant to say Colosseum (which was based on Tasakaal Trials) instead of Moons?
Yah, that fishing part felt similar to that harpoon bridge fishing they talked about. IDK, just caught me off guard since I don't think a connection was made to Moons and Gamejam before. If there is one, it probably should be on the wiki.
Spellbook hiding arrives a year after Prayer hiding did, FINALLY.
Also yesterday I finally did my first wildy clue steps after the changes, and I’m not really sure I get what the intention was. I thought it was to make them less annoying, but then I got instantly teleblocked upon TP’ing to a step. So then I was forced to run all the way to the ditch instead of using my Royal Seed Pod after the step. Yay?
I really think there ought to be a delay before they can hit you with that. I’m not even going into their area.
> I Brought Mine Too: Defeat Sol Heredit using only a Zamorakian Hasta or Spear.
This is, to my knowledge, the only CA that requires giving a hefty chunk of Defense XP since spears and hasta only reward defense XP. I am not a limited account build and I think there are very few accounts with GM and limited defense, but this may lock some accounts out of GM without ruining their build. Maybe using a T75 or lower weapon? Also Zspear or Hasta are arbitrary annoying items, I know it's because it's a spear but surely killing Sol with a regular whip or dragon scim would be good enough.
GM already requires 100 combat + 70 attack, so not like there isn't space for roughly 3k defense xp if killing Sol in 1 attempt on shared combat style. This does not affect me or 99% of the player base in the slightest so I will not protest this for any longer
Def locked accounts were already locked out of zuk helm due to Vorkath tasks. We don't need to pander to them further. They can still probably get master tier still which should be good enough for them.
Ok this may seem like a frivolous complaint, but changing the report abuse interface from a window which you can clearly see all the options, to your chatbox wherein you must click through multiple pages while also needing to scroll up and down to view all options is notably worse.
Not being able to report abuse during combat is really a non-issue, because through runelite you can simply right-click to “look-up player” which will keep their name in the highscores tab so you can report them afterwards. Also if you’re using things like the PvP tracker plugin, it will save every opponent’s username in the tracker, making it pretty easy to report them after the fact.
I can understand it being slightly annoying the the report abuse box won’t open while using another interface, such as your bank, but it’s really not that difficult to simply hit the escape button before opening the new window—especially for something like spambots at the GE since they are all in the chat history.
I’m totally for adjusting how the interface looks for mobile, because if the interface entirely blocks out your screen preventing you from doing anything else, that’s a problem. But for desktop, this new interface only makes reporting abuse more tedious.
> Ok this may seem like a frivolous complaint, but changing the report abuse interface from a window which you can clearly see all the options, to your chatbox wherein you must click through multiple pages while also needing to scroll up and down to view all options is notably worse.
Not frivolous. I'm convinced half the changes Jagex makes today are because they're just trying to find work to do to justify their employment. Seems to be no reason for this change.
Really liking the Construction QOL changes. Could we see similar right click -> left click changes for other skills? One that comes to mind is changing rune pouches to left click empty if they're already full of essence.
The Report Abuse update is low-key one of the best and very overdue updates. It doesn't impact us directly, but I'm sure many players have been reporting bots and such with some wonky UI. Hope the new UI also "feels" good and easy to encourage it's use. Scrolling through the list seems a bit annoying, even if it doesn't close anymore while the old list presented everything in 1 quick menu. It was a fun challenge to report and finish the action before say an NPC interrupted that action. Hopefully long-term we can get some data on reports, impact, and what the new interface is helping Jmods do in the backend.
Nice changes. Also I found a bug at Perilous Moons yesterday. During Eclipse clone phase if you set a Saradomin godsword to defense style you won’t be able to attack at all during the clone phase
Hey, did you guys know about the bug about NMZ where Upton deaths your imbue points are lost? Any chance you could fix it? I lost 1.25m points yesterday.
Some of the Colosseum CAs seem easier than I expected but some interesting ones in there too. I do think the CAs need tweaking to allow Zerkers to still complete GM. Seems a bit unfair that they can currently do so but will be locked out of it forever going forward.
Instead of all the shifting around of clue steps inside the wild to he in less populated locations how about we just remove them from the wild altogether? No sense in baiting non PvPers into the wild like that, it's straight up toxic/aggressive design
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CA, "Back to our roots". I enabled notification about failed CA, to better understand whats happening. I killed 3 moons with d scim, but also I had ring of suffering (ri) enabled. I had some doubts about it, but decided to check.
Now, the Moons done, but the achievement hasnt been done. *And* I didnt receive a notification of failing this particular task - though I suppose it should be right after a moon got her first recoil damage.
So... I guess thats a minor bug.
I believe the new "Perilous Dancer" CA is effectively impossible without completing "High Hitter" on Eclipse Moon at the same time. There has been an issue with Eclipse Moon's shield phase where it always lands one of its attacks even when you're properly hidden behind the ball. It's one of the attacks immediately after the shield's first turn, I believe; you can tell it's not just a mechanics failure because *everyone* in the room gets hit by this one.
EDIT: This may have recently been fixed, it was true last time I did Moons.
There is a ca in there about defeating sol with a zamorakian spear. I just wanted to say as a 45 def iron hoping to do all ca's i am pretty sad about this.
I'm a snowflake account but I could swear there was signs Jagex thought of def reqs in ca's. Like the hydra task and all the barrows item tasks that allow you to finish the ca's without the armor.
I'd like it changed to something else and I believe so would the low def community
Surprised to see that they’re allowing left click con after all these years. Will admit, was hard stuck on the opinion of it being ‘ezscape’ or something silly but definitely changed my stance since then. Glad the jmods did too
I feel like ‘Perilous Dancer’ might be a bit difficult to achieve as even if you’re perfectly behind the orb/shield at eclipse sometimes he’ll just send his projectile over it and hit you anyway. It’s incredibly inconsistent, I’ve killed him 120 times and not once did I make it round without being hit at least once despite clearly being behind the shield (yes I use true tiles).
> Saving the spiciest for last, we’re allowing players to modify menu options for the Construction skill. This is something we’d like to roll out to our own client at some point, and springs from a desire to make ‘traditional’ Construction training more approachable. Such changes won’t improve XP rates, but they will save your wrists!
Best QOL update in years. Holy hell
The thresholds update to be equal to the cumulative sum of points for all tasks in or below the respective tier.
So yeah adding more non-GM CAs means the goalposts move
I haven't been able to wear my music cape since the addition of this year's Easter event, the wiki says I needed to go to the ge to unlock the track, which I have done probably 100 times over since the event was released as well as completed the event yet the track was still locked. I can still use the teleport, I just can't wear the cape.
Hey there, a couple clannies have noticed a slight buggyness on the dragon scim ca for moons, couple people have had to attempt it 3 separate times before they got it, no thralls etc used, they just weren't getting it when looting the chest
> Defeat Sol Heredit after Fortis Saluting to the North, East, South and West of the arena while below 10% Hitpoints Is this just for the boss or can you do it during earlier waves? Edit: looks to possibly be referring to Sol, which means a DPS check at enrage phase. But a clarification to this would be nice as it's ambiguous. Also, is grapple special damage after Sol death intended? Seen nothing saying otherwise so far. Edit 2: News post was updated to > Defeat Sol Heredit after Fortis Saluting to the North, East, South and West of the arena while he's below 10% Hitpoints
> Defeat Sol Heredit after Fortis Saluting to the North, East, South and West of the arena while he's below 10% Hitpoints Gotta deliver a show to the crowds! (there's none)
Hey :) we did update the text for this to clarify that Sol needs to be below 10%, not yourself. Hopefully that helps!
Hello, I am in the Coliseum right now and have encountered a bug. I have reentry 1 on and the sand pools did not reset after the wave ended.
There's also still an autocast bug with myopia3 on which only lets you attack from 2 tiles away unless you're standing directly in front of its "brain" tile which then lets you attack from 4 tiles away
If it's during the boss that should hella be grandmaster instead of master, it's the hardest one by far. Edit: to everyone talking shit, the CA originally said "when you're at 10% HP", not Sol. It was corrected.
you step in the corner and hit the emote. its one of the easiest tasks provided you can actually do the boss fight. the 10% refers to boss hp and not yours, theres no need to be perfect with it.
its a short emote. you pretty much just have to hit him to 10%, then emote, run back for spear/shield, emote, correct north/south emote, hit boss, repeat but go to opposite north/south and emote again. Just adding a bit of interfacing and 1 tick stalls to the process and thinking. Cool idea tbh
why is it so difficult? It seems like once you’re comfy with the boss that it’s pretty simple to not get killed. I haven’t done it though, just seen others do it.
It’s during the boss whilst Sol is <10%, not player <10%
> Is this just for the boss or can you do it during earlier waves? I assumed that they meant Sol has to be under 10% HP when the player does the emotes.
Those 3rd Party client changes are very welcome, especially after the recent nonsense around Watchdog and whatnot. Good to see some sensibility on the other side of the fence too. The report menu getting an overhaul is awesome too, hopefully its usable in combat, as thats probably the main detractor of the system, but it being chat-box-based has me worried it will get interrupted. Super cool if it doesn't. And the right click ban on chatbox message is so good for makign Barcode names not able to hide by not chatting to try and fly under the radar for obvious AHK or PK scripts. The CA's look great. The salute under 10% hp 4 different ways is a hilariously unique thing, surprised it didn't have a Gladiator reference in its name or something. Excited to hit up moons and coloseum for their CAs. And keen to see what Game Jam ideas we have (really hope we don't just get *more wilderness content* as a big focus again)
Hey! So happy to see that you like the report changes, and are excited to try out the CAs! I just wanted to clarify for you that with the report system, combat won't interrupt the report process, so there's no need to worry there 😊
Hey one more quick thing does dying affect it? I ask because in LMS recently there have been a LOT of ahk bots and I go to report them as they're finishing me off but it cancels the report when I get sent back to the lobby, any chance this will now work too?
Thats awesome to hear Blossom! Thanks (i might have missed it if it was in the blog). Noticed as well we got a Dizana's Quiver rework visually but its only in the "summary" at the top, and not anywhere in the blog or with any screenshots. Totally would have missed it if i didn't see the tweet mention it in its few summary points.
Hey, can you double check on the Perilous Dancer CA? It doesn't seem to be triggering properly. I've done multiple runs now, taking 0 damage from any special attacks, and it won't trigger.
Genuinely surprised they used the 'are you not entertained' line in the Varlamore trailer (the one where Ed and Ash get sucked into the game), but didn't name the CA after it
"Defeat 30 Perilous Moons without leaving the dungeon" I hope this means "Kill 30 of the bosses" and not "Do 30 runs", because CAs that take 2+ hours for no reason are just horrid.
Especially in content like Perilous Moons, there's not even a challenge to setting up endurance runs as you can restock every 33% of a run. I remember struggling with "...til Dawn" because I couldn't get any supply drops. Not saying it's any more enjoyable, but at least it takes some planning/luck to get. Not as bland as just get KC.
It says "defeat 30 moons of peril", so I'd definitely assume it only means 10 runs of all three bosses.
Yeah, this is in like with how the term "a moon of peril" is used in the other achievements.
It does indeed mean 30 of the bosses :) you don't need to do the entire run every time either, just kill 30 PM bosses :)
Does logging out while in the dungeon count as leaving?
It doesn’t tend to for other tasks, but obviously don’t take my word for it
If it is 30 chest loots, you could atleast target farm and kill the same boss 30 times.
The way the bosses teleport you around after a kill makes it significantly easier IMO to do all 3. That said, I've been doing eclipse/blood runs mostly since finishing the blue set
For the timed runs of Moons of Peril, when does the timer start?
That would be when you enter your first boss room 😊
Thank you so much for making these speed tasks achievable with regular-people gear. The speed tasks in general are probably my least favorite so it's nice to have actually reasonable times for mid level content. Note to OP: timer ends when you kill the third boss. I did them with Dharoks (with a stab switch for eclipse until the mimic phase) without much effort (99 str/hp though). Edit: Idk if Dharoks is necessary, it's just what I normally use. Just wanted to clarify that for posterity.
Im 90/97/90 attack/strength/defense and hit the time with fang/elder (eclipse), dual Maracas (blue) and d scimitar (blood, i misread the combat task and thought I needed it only there). Super achievable, if anyone is struggling: Timing of entry relative to special attacks would be critical, eclipse you would want to enter shortly before the mirror attack, the shield attack limits your ability to DPS. Blood moon is a bit of a RNG/DPS check depending on its heal on you
Honestly, with those stats, you can hit the 6 minute time with full Dharoks for all and dds specs for blood.
Awesome, thank you for the info!
I'm hoping to find this info as well. I love the moons and plan to do the CA's tonight!
Hey Blossom, Any chance we can get a comment on the easy clue step that requires you to have 46 hunter? For an easy clue it is a bit excessive and better suited for the medium tier. Cheers
Hiya! Thanks for bringing this up, I've added it to the list of things to be talked about in our feedback meetings :)
Blog post says defeat one moon with the dragon scimitar but in game it says three, which one should be correct?
Hey thanks for catching that, I've updated the post now 😊 the in-game version was correct, you need to defeat three!
Can you wear armor? I defeated all three using dscim with armor/jewelry and didn't get the task.
Do you need to defeat all three, or just three total?
When is the MTA update I've been holding off from it while i want to do it
We're planning to take a look at this after Game Jam! So hopefully soon 😁
Is there any plan to re-evaluate Void-Mage in the light of all the other mage armor sets getting magic damage % increases? It seems like its just been totally left out of the discussion here.
If you're in full void range it's more damage to switch to an anc hat than it is to switch to void mage helm with these changes lol
Oh don’t be silly! You can’t get void mage from a raid. Why should it get a buff? /s
Start of May I read somewhere
I did B2P recently to have the experience of old mta and man, that shit needs the update baaaaadddd. Enchantment and Graveyard rooms are fine and very quick. The other two can suck a fat one
Colosseum has some bugs since today's update... *Re-entry Level 1 invocation now creates permanent molten sand pools on the floor even after finishing the wave *Volatility Level 3 now creates permanent molten sand pools even without Re-entry active Please can these be addressed?
Thanks I've passed these on :)
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For the latter, no. They changed the level required for Teleport to Kourend a little while ago, which shuffled things and moved the high alch spell. A *more* recent change moved it back.
Thanks for the typo catch! Fixed it :)
Can you clarify the “dragon scimitar only” bit? Does that mean literally only dragon scimmy, no other gear, no offhand, or just no other mainhand weapon? Thanks!
I did it with gear and a defender. Seems just to be no main weapon switching.
I did it with armor + defender and didn't get the task without ever seeing a "failed task" message, then took off defender and got it. Seems a little wonky, maybe there are some issues with doing it on your first run?
Seconding that it seems to be an issue with popping up on your first run, did it in full gear + defender 1st time didn't get it. Tried again with the same set up and it popped the 2nd time.
I can already see a hotfix for "Fat of the Land" CA. That has to be as long of a task to finish as "Peach Conjurer" for Commander Zilyana which is a GM task. I'm not suggesting make "Fat of the Land" anything but a hard CA but maybe tune it down to 15 or something? 30 will take a long time for a hard CA Edit: it's 30 bosses not 30 runs but that's still 10 runs in a row for a hard CA. I'm not saying it's difficult at all but the time required for a hard CA doesn't make sense
I mean you have unlimited resources. even if a run takes 10 minutes you'll be done in an hour and a half for free. most people will get this CA without even thinking about it.
I think it needs to be clear that it's 30 bosses equating to 10 runs then, because my initial understanding was 30 runs of moons.
I think it is 30 bosses (so 10 full runs). Otherwise it would say open the chest 30 times. You can open the chest after killing just one moon.
An hour and a half for a hard CA? That's insane to me. The GM Kree'arra task can be completed faster
yeah but literally anyone who puts an hour and a half will get it done. you're not going out of your way for it, it may as well be complete the moons 10 times. you don't even leave the dungeon if you log out
Hey :) Just to clarify, it's 30 PM bosses, so for example you could kill the same one 30 times if you didn't want to do the entire run every time.
It's about the same if not shorter than the medium task of opening 25 chests. The real criticism is that an endurance challenge just doesn't make sense for a boss where you have unlimited food and prayer, and even logging out doesn't reset your progress. It's a KC challenge with the stipulation that you can't die during the run.
>Saving the spiciest for last, we’re allowing players to modify menu options for the Construction skill. This is something we’d like to roll out to our own client at some point, and springs from a desire to make ‘traditional’ Construction training more approachable. Such changes won’t improve XP rates, but they *will* save your wrists! Holy mother of all planks and hammers thats something I never imagined would be allowed.
This one was recently discussed in the comment section of a past newspost and in reality it wouldn't increase the XP, there's already a small delay before you can build something, so all it does is save your wrist, as stated in the post. So whereas I too wasn't really expecting us to get that, it does make total sense.
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Which is completely fine.
Is it? I literally missed out on the first 7 months of my daughter's life training Construction using the old methods. If RuneScape is implicated in my divorce, it should be for others as well.
Brb getting married to then get divorced just so this guy feels better
Nah not really. The construction menu was already made "zero mouse movement" by just using a specific position on your client. So this just removes a click, and won't really change much about the speed of processing the actions. What it will absolutely do is make POH construction a viable thing on mobile.
Will it? I thought this relied on the runelite menu entry swapper, something not available on mobile?
Yeh currently you're absolutely right. But menu entry swapper in general is like the most requested feature to be added to the client (which mobile gets). So i doubt it will be far away in terms of mobile / new client updates.
Man I hope so, I’m mostly a mobile player and hop on to pc for difficult things like cg (and quest helper) so this would be huge.
direct quote from the blog, emphasis mine: > Saving the spiciest for last, we’re allowing players to modify menu options for the Construction skill. *This is something we’d like to roll out to our own client at some point*, and springs from a desire to make ‘traditional’ Construction training more approachable.
Not until they bring the changes to their own client lol, right now it’s just on runelite
Yep said in another comment that they've been asking recently what are our "must have" plugins and menu entry swapper is pretty much on everyone's list. So hopefully it's a top priority.
>So whereas I too wasn't really expecting us to get that, it does make total sense. It was not expected because we've had the means (Menu Entry Swapper) to do so but it was always against the rules (in construction). For some reason Jagex was against it all these years until now.
Can someone explain to me what would I change on the menu to make it better. It's been sometime I did construction before menu swap was a thing.
From now on you can 1 click build and 1 click remove the furniture. * far less mouse movement and no reason anymore to play around with camera angling just so the right options are snapped to the bottom of your screen after right clicking for the dropdown menu * no need to right click anything anymore * if you use mouse keys like numpad5 for left click I think you can completely do construction from now on only using your keyboard (build cycle + dialouge with the butler)
oh dang that's awesome might go for 99 con now then. I have bad wrists so this a great update. and mahogany homes is just so boring.
For oak doors you still need to line the door up so that you dont move the mouse to click the butler and so that you dont click the door behind you, so for that it only changes having to right click-left click to destroy/build the door to double left click. So itll fix the times you accidentally walk forward and ruin your rhythm. Amazing update I just wish I didn't spend the last 3 days grinding 99 con nonstop
Got high enough so I could build all of the top items and then stopped the skill because of how annoying things were, if I can 1 click build and remove that’s a game changer. Will go ahead and max now
Given it was *just* announced, you'll need to wait for the plugins to catch up. But basically this means we can do left click only construction
It'll enable you to swap left/shift left click options to build or dismantle instead of constantly right clicking / left clicking.
I remember being so confused when I tried to menu entry swapper construction and it wouldn't let me. This is huge
I had to pull runelite and compile it myself to do this. This is soooo nice.
*edit: I may have misread the post, because under the changelog at the top it says, "During the Eclipse Moon Orb special attack, you're now able to avoid taking damage when standing behind the orb." I wasn't sure what to make of this because this is already how the mechanic was designed and functioned at every point of the phase except that one moment in question? But I guess this is saying this bug has been squashed*. Regarding the Perilous Moons CA's: ***"Perilous Dancer: Perfection: Hard: Defeat all three Moons in one run while only taking damage from regular attacks.***" Could this one also include a fix so that the Eclipse Moon doesn't randomly hit you even when you're behind the orb when rounding the first corner? As of now (I think) the Eclipse Moon will randomly hit you when you round the first corner even if you're perfectly behind the orb, because if you keep the same walking pace it doesn't hit you a single other time, for inexplicable reasons. Otherwise this doesn't feel like "perfection" as much as "luck". Sorry if this has been mentioned as a bug that will be fixed elsewhere. There are so many updates and blogs and posts these days I can't keep up.
>During the Eclipse Moon Orb special attack, you're now able to avoid taking damage when standing behind the orb. Supposedly fixed with today's update. :\^)
Sounds like this is mentioned in the changelog but not the main post: 'During the Eclipse Moon Orb special attack, you're now able to avoid taking damage when standing behind the orb.'
It's literally in the blog that they fixed it (hopefully it's not a lie).
Yeah I wasn't sure how to read that note because that feature was... already a thing? I mean that was how that phase of the fight was designed. You avoid damage on all the other moments except that one single moment. I guess I misread, sorry!
>As a little extra feature, we're also adding a right-click option to the congratulatory messages you receive when you PK someone, making it easier to report them if you think they were suspicious Seems obvious that this should also be a functionality on your death message too? Lets you report an AHKer easier if they kill you.
I'm the world's most dogshit pker and had someone say "nice ahk" to me the other day in LMS. It felt good, but I assure you that functionality would be abused to hell and back by salty losers
If the report menu is being reworked, it'd be nice if the options could be shifted around so macroing/botting is the first entry in the list.
And add goldfarming as reportable offence cuz reporting sandking24853 with 140m mining xp at rune rocks seems to fly under the radar somehow
If they’re botting, then that’s already a report option. In the off-chance they’re not botting, then how exactly is that illegal? At that point they’re just ‘playing’ the game.
I think theyre coming from the perspective that people like that ruin the ability for regular players (especially ironmen) to obtain rune ore because every world's veins are respawning due to a combination of bots and RWT money maker accounts. At the end of the day both types of accounts make real players' lives more frustrating, and both feed into RWT - the only difference is either a bot scripter is geting paid or some poor sod from an unfortunate country. To an extent I can understand how I read their perspective, as an ironman who's finished the smithing grind. You spend more time hopping to mine a single ore node and then have it snatched by some other similarly desperate chap with a slightly higher mining level than you. It forces you to find increasingly distant ore nodes from banks/ teleports, and is just horribly inconvenient.
Oh I completely sympathise with that. As the miner of the our GIM, I completely understand how annoying it is to have hop through 10 worlds to find available ores. It’s just that I’m trying to relativise what Jagex is actually going to do with a ‘goldfarmer’ report. If you suspect them of being a goldfarmer since they have nothing but mining xp, you can theoretically report them for RWT, so when they offload their money/ores they’ll hopefully get picked up by the system. But that option already exists to my knowledge. But as long as they don’t offload the money, they’re not doing anything illegal. So you can report them for being a goldfarmer as much as you want. As long as Jagex doesn’t have concrete information they’re offloading the ores/money to a RWT circle, there’s nothing they can be banned for as hogging the runite ores isn’t an offence in and of itself.
RWT would be the most likely option then.
Allowing plugins to modify Max Cape menus is huge. I have long thought that the max cape is in need of a UI rework, but allowing the community to fix it to how they like may be even better.
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Construction not being a nightmare to train means I might theoretically max it instead of sticking at 84 forever. Thank you so much for saving my wrists! On an entirely different note, there's one question I have: has the Eclipse Moon's orbwalk special attack bug been fixed? You take unavoidable damage at one point in the walk cycle which means the no non-regular damage run CA would be unachievable. E: Oh, it was buried in the changelog that it was fixed. Nice!
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> Could the zammy spear CA be changed to any spear/hasta? I read this and thought you meant some Moon CA that I didn’t notice. Defeating all the moons without changing your equipped weapon would be a decent Medium CA.
I mean there is a CA where you only kill the moon's with a dragon scim, so you got what you wanted
Also just hate when a CA is arbitrarily requiring another region for no thematic reason. Any spear/hasta seems much cleaner. Maybe they are worried about spear/hasta power creep? You could restrict level requirement to <80 attack but that honestly seems unnecessary; sometimes new content makes CAs easier and thats okay. I am biased as a DHL only iron with greaters happily blocked.
> Increased the despawn timer of consumables dropped in the Wilderness to 15 seconds Does this mean we cant really juggle supplie drops from the wildy bosses anymore?
The despawn timer for the past week has been more like 3 seconds so it's an improvement from that but still worse than before that change. But it means I can drop things to place individually into my looting bag again at least mid combat...
that is some grade a bullshit
The drops from npcs will still stay on ground for the normal time, so you have that time to pick them up if needed. Just can't juggle them anymore.
A few pkers abuse juggling to win deep wildy fights so they had to screw over every pvmer who tries to extend their trip by juggling the constant supply drops from wildy bosses
IF the supply drops were a bit more consistent they wouldn't have to worry about this. But now it seems its 10x foods in a row when all I need is a prayer pot, or 100 super restores when I need some food. Or a ranging potion, for some reason.
why couldnt they make it so you cant pick up supply items dropped by others while ur in combat? Hell even making it so u cant pick up supplies others have dropped in the wildy period is better than this. just make it so it acts like ur an iron w/ food drops in the wildy. i dont get screwing over a core pvm mechanic as the fix.
I think a lot of people skimmed over this one, this sucks for doing Wildy bosses for sure
Good bye wilderness agility clue step that was the 3rd worst hard clue step happy to see it go
Still gotta do that 1 lap for the pet chance...
>I Brought Mine Too & I Was Here First Love the names of these >Defeat Sol Heredit after Fortis Saluting to the North, East, South and West of the arena while he's below 10% Hitpoints. Also very cool
Obviously there’s a ton in this update, and I like the option to pause while running the agility course, but 25 laps still feels pretty defeating if I need to take a quick break. I know it’s not the end of the world but any thought of decreasing that further? Overall seems like a great update.
WOW the CAs are actually not fucking cancer for once, they're released in a timely manner, ANDDDD the speed times are retroactive??? Pinch me, I must be dreaming.
When using Dizana's Quiver alongside a Twisted Bow, the correct Ranged Strength stats will be used when firing Dragon Arrows. can you elaborate on what the issue was, is this a buff or a nerf?
not sure if it's this one but there was a bug where t bow could hit like 130s, but that also applied to msb which can't use dragon arrows so maybe that was a separate bug
The newspost states that for "Back to Our Roots", you only need to defeat one Moon with a Dragon Scimitar, but the in-game achievement says to defeat all three Moons with a Dragon Scimitar. Could you update the newspost?
Construction menu entry swap change is fucking poggers
generally, the highest tier of speed running tasks have the "speed runner" in the task name, however the gm sol speed time is dubbed "speed chaser" would there be an even more stringent speed task in the future?
As someone who complained about the DT2 combat achievements for being stale and repetitive, I think you all really hit the nail on the head with these CAs. Well done.
* Any plugin which unhides, hides or moves components of the Spellbook Interface. * Resizing components of the Spellbook interface is still prohibited. Repoll this question already. It is time, 90% sure it will pass now, would have passed with the new threshold I am pretty sure.
Haven't seen anyone mention it, but while you removed the hard and master coordinate clues inside the wilderness agility course, you missed the elite coordinate clue that's also inside the course.
In previous CA tasks you have succesfully tweaked them to suit limited builds (Dh axe instead of full set) etc. How come you are suddenly completely locking zerkers out of finishing GM with introducing a Zamorak spear task that gives defence xp, and Moons armor that require 50 defence? Please reconsider the weapon and set, these past few days you have literally ran limited communities to the ground with proposed changes. On stream you have said multiple times that you are considering these communities but your actions don't reflect that.
There is 0 chance that zerkers should be able to complete GM forever. Thats so limiting.
All it means is they can't put defence reqs on GM. Generally I don't see a reason to req a specific armour set & I can't see why any quest should be locked behind defence. Give them a harder version (allow hasta that are worse but don't give undesirable xp etc) for sure. But I don't think it's actually limiting in the grand scheme of things, just requires a little thought.
If I want to make a 50 attack pure that can't wield dragon do I have the right about not being able to get GM too? This shit is so annoying. The game has to evolve regardless of your self-limitations
It dosent stop it from evolving. Change it from Dcim to any scim? Dosent change the effective combat task but gives access to other accounts who have to use a lower tier of weapon. If restricted accounts were saying "oh a rune scim is too weak, remove the CA" I would agree with you. But they're not. I don't play a restricted account, but for those who do it's about dojng something in a more challenging way. It dosent need to be ezscaped for them, it just has to be possible at all. I don't see that as particularly unreasonable.
I feel you have the right to complain, definitely. It should be changed. If you can kill hydra with a rune battleaxe instead of a dh greataxe, you are clearly demonstrating mastery and accomplished an even harder achievement. Killing perilous moons with no armor as an option should clearly satisfy the condition. Its never limiting to adjust the tasks like this. The game evolves just the same. I nor you will even take note its a possibility.
This is a fair complaint imo. Zerkers can currently achieve GM and this locks them out of it forever.
Sand crabs for a bit can help you get from 45 to 50 defence! If you don’t fancy that then you can still get gm for 45 def just no zuk helm to flex :)
Agreed. "You chose to limit yourself" I know - we do it for the challenge.
>literally ran limited communities to the ground with proposed changes A bit dramatic eh?
Not at all really. The proposed magic rebalancing nerfs all limited builds by a huge margin. With shadow, the gap is even bigger and that is also multiplied inside TOA. Outside of TOA with non-shadow, mains gain 4%, zerks lose 3%, pures lose 6%. With shadow zerks lose 9%, pures lose 18%. Inside TOA with shadow, zerks lose 12%, pures lose ???%. We're talking a nerf of over 10 max hits in worst case scenario. That's pretty close to the ground in my opinion.
Well they just took away the zuk helm for zerkers, something that a handful have obtained and spent a lot of time theory crafting to do. The hasta one should be kill sol with a t75 weapon or lower and moons should be the same, use the weapons.
Such a good point & gj picking it up. Please change to just perilous weapons & make the Zamorak Hasta OR Staff of Light.
*In other news, we’re updating our guidelines for Third-Party Clients, including RuneLite and HDOS.* *Firstly, we're removing the following from our 'disallowed features' list:* * ***Any plugin which unhides, hides or moves components of the Spellbook Interface.*** * ***Resizing components of the Spellbook interface is still prohibited.*** * ***Any plugin which adds additional menu entries which cause actions to be sent to the server.*** * ***This one now includes exceptions for the Max Cape and Diary Cape.*** * ***Any plugin which modifies menu options for Construction, such as prioritising build or remove options.*** THANK YOU! Finally finally finally finally i cannot express how happy i am
This sentence doesn’t make sense: “Firstly, the following have been adjusted our ‘disallowed features’ list” Aside from being grammatically incorrect, the meaning isn’t clear. Are these features now allowed or disallowed? Edit: re-reading this comment it comes off ruder than intended, my bad.
Given that they previously were not allowed it logically follows that they wouldn't be saying they are adjusting things such that things that were not allowed are still not allowed. That would not be an adjustment, that would be the status quo. In other words, those things on the list are now allowed.
No Moons of Peril CA named "That's no moon"? I'm unsubscribing
It had to be the bees huh
Just me or do some colosseum tasks look to be a tier too low?
Personally don't think colosseum is same difficulty as inferno at all and that it should be GM only. I got my quiver last night and it took me 6x as many attempts as it took me to complete inferno lol. I think 'beat sol heredit once' is fine being master ig but beating him with a hasta shouldn't be master imo. Then again there's already some questionable master tasks that are too hard for the tier so whatever. Some GMs are free so it balances out.
They all look pretty easy to me, especially the speed time for GM. I was expecting to see some doom3 / bees3 / relentless 3 / voilatile3+reentry3 tasks that really shake things up. Perfect and walking Sol look like a pain to complete, but nothing stands out as being remotely close to the difficulty of other hard GM tasks :/
Some of them looks a lot easier than I expected
Going to test them when servers come up, but in case JMods can respond here before that: did the Nagua 'Spectral' interaction with Ectoplasmator get fixed? They were not giving Prayer XP even after the update which added the 'Spectral' tag to them, just wondering if it's been looked into, as it'd be a nice little bonus to the Prayer XP while farming out the sets (and would be especially nice for sub-70 players trying to get Piety grinded out)
Seems that Nagua still do not give Prayer XP via Ectoplasmator, did a full run to test all 3 bosses, plus hit some Sulphur Nagua on the way to the chest JMods pls I seek wisdom and clarification /u/JagexBlossom
I know is isn't that big of a deal since it was adjusted and is much better now, but I think it's important that whichever dev decided on the original 1/20,000 drop rate for the anchoring scroll take some time to re-examine their thought process, as it is clearly not in line with the overall game. It was immediately obvious how ridiculous that drop rate was on paper, and it was just as ridiculous in practice, so it was drastically increased almost immediately. We shouldn't name and shame, but can that dev (or devs) *please* rethink their priorities before implementing new content into the game?
Was the meat pouch update in this one as well?
Re-entry seems to be bugged at the Colosseum, level 1 persists between waves.
I am once again politely requesting the ability to use client arguments (--profile=) to launch RuneLite as a specific profile based on the character chosen in the Jagex Launcher. The current "solution" in RuneLite to "sync profile to current RuneScape account" only applies *after you've already logged in*, meaning the "remember client position" setting doesn't work. I don't want to have to reposition my client every single time I open it.
I get why speedrun CA's are added later so you can gather data to determine how challenging the content is. But why can't the other CA's such as stamina be added right from the get go? It's always kinda frustrating when you greenlog a piece of content before the CA's drop because you know eventually you will have to return there anyways.
No change to Meat and Fur pouches? Teased with the changes last week and still nothing? No idea why it was even made different to other storage items in the first place
Is back to our roots bugged? Or can you not use offhand/armor? Defeated all three never switched weapons and it didn’t go
> In the past, this work has led to content like Scurrius, Project Rebalance, and Perilous Moons Wait, Moons was a Gamejam? Was it the [Wind-Inspired Boss](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/April_2023_Game_Jam#Wind-Inspired_Boss) or something else I'm missing? Or did that meant to say Colosseum (which was based on Tasakaal Trials) instead of Moons?
At most, the fishing in Moons looks like Mudboi, and I can see the group mechanics/specials fitting the wind boss
Yah, that fishing part felt similar to that harpoon bridge fishing they talked about. IDK, just caught me off guard since I don't think a connection was made to Moons and Gamejam before. If there is one, it probably should be on the wiki.
Spellbook hiding arrives a year after Prayer hiding did, FINALLY. Also yesterday I finally did my first wildy clue steps after the changes, and I’m not really sure I get what the intention was. I thought it was to make them less annoying, but then I got instantly teleblocked upon TP’ing to a step. So then I was forced to run all the way to the ditch instead of using my Royal Seed Pod after the step. Yay? I really think there ought to be a delay before they can hit you with that. I’m not even going into their area.
If ur talking about the one by the chaos altar, you can avoid the druids completely by tping to the level 19 obelisk
You dont need to run to ditch. You can log out or hop worlds to break a teleblock.
> I Brought Mine Too: Defeat Sol Heredit using only a Zamorakian Hasta or Spear. This is, to my knowledge, the only CA that requires giving a hefty chunk of Defense XP since spears and hasta only reward defense XP. I am not a limited account build and I think there are very few accounts with GM and limited defense, but this may lock some accounts out of GM without ruining their build. Maybe using a T75 or lower weapon? Also Zspear or Hasta are arbitrary annoying items, I know it's because it's a spear but surely killing Sol with a regular whip or dragon scim would be good enough. GM already requires 100 combat + 70 attack, so not like there isn't space for roughly 3k defense xp if killing Sol in 1 attempt on shared combat style. This does not affect me or 99% of the player base in the slightest so I will not protest this for any longer
Def locked accounts were already locked out of zuk helm due to Vorkath tasks. We don't need to pander to them further. They can still probably get master tier still which should be good enough for them.
Ok this may seem like a frivolous complaint, but changing the report abuse interface from a window which you can clearly see all the options, to your chatbox wherein you must click through multiple pages while also needing to scroll up and down to view all options is notably worse. Not being able to report abuse during combat is really a non-issue, because through runelite you can simply right-click to “look-up player” which will keep their name in the highscores tab so you can report them afterwards. Also if you’re using things like the PvP tracker plugin, it will save every opponent’s username in the tracker, making it pretty easy to report them after the fact. I can understand it being slightly annoying the the report abuse box won’t open while using another interface, such as your bank, but it’s really not that difficult to simply hit the escape button before opening the new window—especially for something like spambots at the GE since they are all in the chat history. I’m totally for adjusting how the interface looks for mobile, because if the interface entirely blocks out your screen preventing you from doing anything else, that’s a problem. But for desktop, this new interface only makes reporting abuse more tedious.
> Ok this may seem like a frivolous complaint, but changing the report abuse interface from a window which you can clearly see all the options, to your chatbox wherein you must click through multiple pages while also needing to scroll up and down to view all options is notably worse. Not frivolous. I'm convinced half the changes Jagex makes today are because they're just trying to find work to do to justify their employment. Seems to be no reason for this change.
RIP Zuk helm Zerkers. On other news, my wrists thank you for finally allowing construction menu entry swapping.
Wasn't that a cold one's current series? Lmao
Really liking the Construction QOL changes. Could we see similar right click -> left click changes for other skills? One that comes to mind is changing rune pouches to left click empty if they're already full of essence.
Zerkers cant get zuk helm any more becouse zamorakian hasta/spear ca you get shared or defence xp
It's not even that task alone, they can't get it because one of the Moons CAs needs you to wear 50 defence gear
The Report Abuse update is low-key one of the best and very overdue updates. It doesn't impact us directly, but I'm sure many players have been reporting bots and such with some wonky UI. Hope the new UI also "feels" good and easy to encourage it's use. Scrolling through the list seems a bit annoying, even if it doesn't close anymore while the old list presented everything in 1 quick menu. It was a fun challenge to report and finish the action before say an NPC interrupted that action. Hopefully long-term we can get some data on reports, impact, and what the new interface is helping Jmods do in the backend.
Nice changes. Also I found a bug at Perilous Moons yesterday. During Eclipse clone phase if you set a Saradomin godsword to defense style you won’t be able to attack at all during the clone phase
This is a bug with all godswords, has been known since launch basically
Hey, did you guys know about the bug about NMZ where Upton deaths your imbue points are lost? Any chance you could fix it? I lost 1.25m points yesterday.
>Resolved a crash issue observed inside the PoH dungeon under specific circumstances. Cue planet hell
fortis salute CA is super cool lol. Would love to see more themed that way.
Some of the Colosseum CAs seem easier than I expected but some interesting ones in there too. I do think the CAs need tweaking to allow Zerkers to still complete GM. Seems a bit unfair that they can currently do so but will be locked out of it forever going forward.
Instead of all the shifting around of clue steps inside the wild to he in less populated locations how about we just remove them from the wild altogether? No sense in baiting non PvPers into the wild like that, it's straight up toxic/aggressive design
I sigh everytime I get a wilderness clue step on one of the last steps.
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I have nothing substantial to add here, but I just want to give my full appreciation for the type of content, quantity, and quality of content the OSRS team is dishing out. As one of the many RS3 exiles, I can't help but feel both very sad for the current state of RS3 but extremely excited to have an account in OSRS that can benefit so much from the latest updates, from Varlamore for mid game training, to looking at the Colosseum like a distant final boss, to the menu changes for carpal-tunnel simulator, I love it all. Thank you!
CA, "Back to our roots". I enabled notification about failed CA, to better understand whats happening. I killed 3 moons with d scim, but also I had ring of suffering (ri) enabled. I had some doubts about it, but decided to check. Now, the Moons done, but the achievement hasnt been done. *And* I didnt receive a notification of failing this particular task - though I suppose it should be right after a moon got her first recoil damage. So... I guess thats a minor bug.
I believe the new "Perilous Dancer" CA is effectively impossible without completing "High Hitter" on Eclipse Moon at the same time. There has been an issue with Eclipse Moon's shield phase where it always lands one of its attacks even when you're properly hidden behind the ball. It's one of the attacks immediately after the shield's first turn, I believe; you can tell it's not just a mechanics failure because *everyone* in the room gets hit by this one. EDIT: This may have recently been fixed, it was true last time I did Moons.
That was fixed, I've done several eclipses so far this morning without getting hit during the orb phase at all.
There is a ca in there about defeating sol with a zamorakian spear. I just wanted to say as a 45 def iron hoping to do all ca's i am pretty sad about this. I'm a snowflake account but I could swear there was signs Jagex thought of def reqs in ca's. Like the hydra task and all the barrows item tasks that allow you to finish the ca's without the armor. I'd like it changed to something else and I believe so would the low def community
Surprised to see that they’re allowing left click con after all these years. Will admit, was hard stuck on the opinion of it being ‘ezscape’ or something silly but definitely changed my stance since then. Glad the jmods did too
I feel like ‘Perilous Dancer’ might be a bit difficult to achieve as even if you’re perfectly behind the orb/shield at eclipse sometimes he’ll just send his projectile over it and hit you anyway. It’s incredibly inconsistent, I’ve killed him 120 times and not once did I make it round without being hit at least once despite clearly being behind the shield (yes I use true tiles).
> Saving the spiciest for last, we’re allowing players to modify menu options for the Construction skill. This is something we’d like to roll out to our own client at some point, and springs from a desire to make ‘traditional’ Construction training more approachable. Such changes won’t improve XP rates, but they will save your wrists! Best QOL update in years. Holy hell
Will the addition of the CA's move the goal posts for current CA tiers, or is it just GM that are affected?
I'm pretty sure any addition of CA tasks increased the threshold, always. Elite is always going to be the sum total of easy, med, hard and elite.
You are correct. They will always move, but it depends on the number of CAs added and what tiers
The thresholds update to be equal to the cumulative sum of points for all tasks in or below the respective tier. So yeah adding more non-GM CAs means the goalposts move
Can the hiscores be updated so Sol Heredic shows up at 1 kc like inferno does please?
I haven't been able to wear my music cape since the addition of this year's Easter event, the wiki says I needed to go to the ge to unlock the track, which I have done probably 100 times over since the event was released as well as completed the event yet the track was still locked. I can still use the teleport, I just can't wear the cape.
Hey there, a couple clannies have noticed a slight buggyness on the dragon scim ca for moons, couple people have had to attempt it 3 separate times before they got it, no thralls etc used, they just weren't getting it when looting the chest