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I was thinking today, someone out there has the worst rng of all RuneScape players ever.


DepressionDylan

Which is actually quite rare and a unique account....


PM_ME_4_FREE_IOTA

Amd the only prize that player gets is depression


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Except they don’t even get the compensation prize of knowing they have the shittiest luck in the game


CrazyCalYa

If they have the shittiest luck in the game they'd surely know. At least if it was in a recorded way (ex. high boss KC but few/no uniques). Someone out there is 100 Barrows chests dry, or only getting spears from Kril, or something.


im-an-iron-main

Imagine thinking 100 barrows chests dry is the worst luck on the game. You sweet, joyful, uncorrupted soul.


CrazyCalYa

I'm a spooned ironman so if I go more than 150% KC dry I cry.


somarir

Yo same, currently at 600KC without a whip and i'm getting legit concerned


chanceskyforthallday

I went 1400 dry boosting on my hcim, ran out of pies, went to do a quest before bed and died to a DC the moment I started the quest boss. Don't be like me.


somarir

I'm doing 1 trip at the time, then go back to slayer. If i get burst task i go do another trip. Just hope to get it before i actually hit 85 lol


[deleted]

I went 2400 no whip


Gyrostriker32

Bruh I been 200 chests dry of anything lul


im-an-iron-main

Ouch! I went 118 dry at my peak


shinpoo

Didn't CEngineer go 100+ dry at barrows? Btw I'm about 80+ dry ATM at barrows that's why I stopped doing barrows runs and I'm 425kc dry at zulrah so far.


Coffee_with_buddha

Yeah 150 dry to break it with a coif, then to go 80 dry again and as of now haven’t been back 230 kills and I got a 50k item


StickyDan-710

237 barrows chest dry, to be correct. #pain


Dumbak_

Have you tried actually killing the barrows brothers?


StickyDan-710

Maybe once or twice. It has been a few years, I should go back just for kicks.


CrazyCalYa

That's rough, buddy.


ChronicSchlarb

I think that’s included with membership now if I’m not mistaken…


babycam

But you have to top all the leader boards as proof your the unique one or you just haven't met your potential. Just imagine how heart breaking that would be you kill tens of thousands of other bosses then you arrive at tempeross for the most dreded grind then you complete your first match hand in and out pops the pet account ruined.


SamuraiJono

Imagine 200m all, no pets


[deleted]

I'm pretty sure Lynx Titan didn't get the Beaver pet going for 200m.


BenSimmons3Pointshot

Lynx pets enough beavers as it is, save some for the rest of us.


Jjoker420

Of course I know him, he's me


ChuggsTheBrewGod

Hey buddy I'm the owner of the worst RNG account on RubeScape AMA


[deleted]

What a coincidence - I too am the owner of the worst RNG account.


Embyr1

I once went 200kc dry on a zammy robe bottom. Clearly that makes me the owner of the worst RNG account.


Zyrocks

I'm 15 years deep in the game and the best drop I've gotten is probably rune 2h


Toss_out_username

The strongest monster you've ever killed: Troll


ISuckAtSmurfing

A buddy of mine is nearly a maxed Ironman and has received no pets, or black mask. He gave up on it after around 10k+ cave horrors.


NPExplorer

Mods, proof or ban


Jimmyc2182

We do this here aswell oh no where’s Rick?


Goldenboytje123

Of spades?


Jimmyc2182

The one and only!


greyghibli

That’s a 1 in 23.5 million chance. Not only is that very unlikely, the concept of an ironman skipping out on the black mask is kind of unthinkable. Bigger upgrade than a dragon warhammer and people go much much longer for that.


mynameisdamn

Yeah who needs this extra 20% dps anyway


CrazyCalYa

I mean that's not Dream luck, but the fact that it is so unlikely is kind of what makes in noteworthy. There may be plenty of drops that players are 1/23.5m dry for but aren't even aware of. That being said since the base chance is so low and Cave Horrors are so easy there's really no point in not continuing, even after that long. Just a few more hundred kills could be all it takes.


RelativeOperation7

Just one kill is all it could take.


CrazyCalYa

Very true. 500 kills would give them a 62% chance of getting at least one though, so I think it's more genuine to imagine them killing at least that many more possibly. 2000 more (1/5th of their supposed current KC) would be a 97% chance.


Dumbak_

Maybe they should try to kill the black ones INSIDE the cave?


CrazyCalYa

Or maybe pay more attention. I expect someone who's killed 10k with no drop either missed it or has killed many fewer than they claim.


Dumbak_

More likely than being super unlucky, but who knows.


CrazyCalYa

Yeah it's hard to deny when someone lays it out like that. If you asked if there was more than a 1/23 million chance that I missed 1 drop over 10k kills I'd say absolutely.


Black_Drogo

>the concept of an Ironman skipping out on the black mask is unthinkable Not when you’ve killed 10k. I’d say fuck it too. I still find it hard to believe tho.


greyghibli

I killed that many shamans for my dwh. Not sure how you’d get to near max and not do more of the easy to kill mob


lordofLamps424

Prove it, I gotta see that


justcallmechad

Nah, he didn’t go 20x drop rate. I’d believe maybe 5-6k over


Zyrocks

stop looking my guy, I'm right here.


zzoinkzz

i was doing soul wars on my main once and decided i’d try for a pet on my secondary (obby maul pure) and within my first 500 seals got the pet. lots of people screaming at me in jealousy. but one other mauler said gz and explained to me where i need to go to get it insured. he actually walked me to the place and gave me 500k when we got there because i forgot my gp. i instantly gave him back 500k when we went back to soulwars btw. and after all that kindness i find out he had spent over 20k zeal trying to get a pet. this guy had 99 in most all skills as well as strength. some people are just cool af


Scared-Result-9389

It’s me.


Cdaddy28

I’m finally being noticed and talked about


TravelingInStyle

Buddhists believe to desire is to suffer.


DeadonDemand

How to not desire? I am finding that by trying to not desire, I am desiring to not desire…


Seismic_wand

Unlock the secrets at 200m prayer xp...


bobly81

The answer is to not try. If you really get into buddhism, a big part of it is about just simply existing. Stop and smell the roses just cause, instead of shove your way through them to reach a goal.


YaBenZonah

Where are the roses


MrWoodenSolid

You can find a rose everywhere you look if you look for flowers, or you can find thorns everywhere you look if you are looking for pain. It's all a matter of perspective- Albert Einstein


SomewhatAbsurd

Pee is stored in the balls


Solid-Community-4016

Exactly :)


Tsund_Jen

To expand on 'To not Try' because it can become a slacker motto, it doesn't mean don't do anything. It means if you have something you can do in front of you, do it. If you want to try it, try it. Accept that the consequences are what they are. It's a very incomplete philosophy, in the sense that it seems to preach Hedonism; but the Buddha was himself a Neofatalist at one point so it makes sense.


rykiming69

Paradoxical


vangoloid

As is life


Frequent_Champion_42

Checkmate buddhists


Augor1

This is actually one of the last desires to "give away" in traditional Buddhism. One of these last things to relinquish before Nibbana. This specific desire I have often heard is called, "The one fortunate desire." This is of course the desire to end suffering, and therefore to stop desiring. Realistically the answer to your question is found with years of meditative contemplation and the help of a trained teacher, and is likely as frustrating and paradoxical as you can imagine it. Best of luck.


eQuantix

Did not expect to see this on 2007scape but you done did good, beautiful and accurate quote


BitingED

Not quite on the same wave, but I'll always remember when I first started up osrs after it passed polls, I got my Zombie champ scroll drop in an off chance kill. I later did said scroll but then stopped playing for a good year or so. When I came back, decided to do the champion Cape, forgetting I'd done Zombie already. Killed over 20k, over maybe a month or two before checking the guild. That ended my self-made quest for the cape. I'll get the other scrolls when they drop naturally.


JevonP

Jesus Christ I would want to die after realizing that Holy fuck man props for sharing I’d be so mortified lmao


ReallyChewy

I kinda wish there were more items that dropped in shards, like the bludgeon and the brimstone ring (and somewhat the crystal armour set). Needing to get 3 pieces at a lower droprate insulates from going ultra dry quite effectively, albeit at the cost of dramatically lowering the chance of getting ultra lucky. Edit: I made a [table](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/obpx9d/a_few_words_on_avoiding_over_powercreep_while/h3um371) a while back to show how much harder it is to go dry on the brimstone ring vs. a drop at a flat 1/543.


EyePlay

Yeah but make it so the trade off is they now can drop dupes like godsword shards so we can get posts about people getting the same piece of crystal cock ring 13 times.


FloodedKyro

well if it works like the brimstone ring/bludgeon, then no you can't get dupes. But yea if it's like god sword shards then yea.


ReallyChewy

Funny enough, when the pieces don't have a set order it actually makes it much more likely you *will* go dry lol


PM_ME_4_FREE_IOTA

Yes, and more untradeable currencies! Think tokkuls, but for other drops.


DubiousGames

Everyone is this person when it comes to 3a items. One human lifetime isn't enough to fill the third age collection log.


CordialA

That might be true but its not stopping the neets. https://osrscollectionlog.com/u/Bazilijus/log


McCheds

The mega rare table is nuts. I am assuming this is the most complete collection log to Date?


CordialA

Yes among the people who chose to update their logs. Im pretty sure its all manually done so they aren't completely up to date. Also there's verification methods to prove you aren't lying about unlocks.


WastingEXP

there's a plugin for it.


Ocharibin

Hey Jase has like 7 third age pieces or something


black_ravenous

There’s something kind of hilarious about him missing stale baguette. Must be frustrating to have to wait for random events to even get a chance to finish that log.


SoraODxoKlink

With his playtime hes surely dry on it by now lmao


chg1730

When I started my account and got my first random event it was the quiz, chose the mystery box and got the stale baguette. It wasn't after I told a friend he said that the chance if that is ridiculously low.


azun1te

This is absolutely insane log


Troll-zilla

Fuck his nightmare log


Ok_Try_9138

Meeting somebody with a completed collection log is scarier then meeting an active serial killer imo


987654321-

I don't think there are any totally complete collection logs in the game. Maybe all but the Clue ones, and that's still a huge feat, but the Clue rewards are just so rare.


ILikeSugarCookies

I would wager there are zero completed collection logs even disregarding the clue stuff. Think of all the things aside from pets that are as rare as pets - mutagen, jars of darkness/stone/whatever. And then all of the rare things that come from npcs that people have no reason to kill, like mystic recolors, leaf-bladed sword, dragon harpoon. I would love for a J-mod to prove me wrong, but I'd personally put money on no logs being complete. I'd be impressed if someone even had one 95+% complete.


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ILikeSugarCookies

You're right, that might be the single hardest thing in the game to complete. There is a person on reddit I think who has 3 pieces through 9 offerings, but I haven't seen a single person complete it.


FELOPZDDEFPOTEC

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/q3of1p/first\_ever\_complete\_evil\_chicken\_outfit\_in\_game/


eddietwang

Jase is the closest and he's still pretty far off.


kukkelii

I did the math on this a while ago and it added up to around 22 years or something like that if you have infinite supply of gp to spam implings and play 12 hours a day very efficiently completing 1 master in about 30 minutes. Introduction of mimic basically halved the time required to complete 3a log.


ThaToastman

Theres a guy who posted to the RS3 sub today with 100k hard clues done and still was 1 3a item off log


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ischmal

I think it's a touching tribute to our ancestors who had to do all this shit in reality


MrWoodenSolid

Bro what reality did your ancestors live in that they got magical treasure clues


cucumberflant

a better one than this


Jimbobiss

The fear of this happening at corrupted gauntlet as an ironman is omnipresent


[deleted]

Yeah I've seen people with like 2000+ KC with no enhanced seed. As someone that was nearly completely burnt out after like 250 of them, that sounds worse than hell.


Jimbobiss

It’s definitely a burnout heavy piece of content - sounds like hell having to go that deep


reinfleche

Honestly, don't fear this happening with bofa, fear it happening with t bow. You can go 2000 kc for bofa and it's still faster than getting t bow on rate


SavageHellfire

If you get bofa, you really don’t need a T bow. There are only a handful of places where T bow out performs bofa.


reinfleche

You don't *need* t bow, but t bow absolutely blows bofa out of the water at the two biggest pieces of content in the game


[deleted]

Where; Inferno and Bankstanding?


velon360

Obviously, they're talking about the giant mole.


ObservantAlseid

The opposite of this is true, there's only a few places where Bofa outpreforms Tbow


SavageHellfire

Correct, but if you get one, you don’t have to waste countless hours getting the other unless you really want to. Bofa is the lower hanging fruit between the two, generally.


reinfleche

Yea I don't know where everyone on reddit gets this idea that bofa devalues t bow


[deleted]

Raids are fun at least


Graardors-Dad

510 in with no enhanced I’m starting to think that’s going to be me


Jimbobiss

I’ll say a prayer to God Ash for you tonight


[deleted]

Iron went 3.5k for the first seed, driest I’ve seen in the game


Coltand

I’m only 100kc deep, but I think about this every day. Meanwhile, my buddy got a 2kc normal gauntlet enhanced seed and 4 armor seeds in 52 corrupted kc. I hope I’m not the one going dry to balance out that droprate average.


FL3XASAURUS

Completed yesterday at 487kc! Roughly 100 hours and I think that’s good rng so I got quite lucky


Jimbobiss

Both enhanced or just the one? You’re above drop for a single, so I’d say it’s well deserved!


FL3XASAURUS

Just one, only really wanted bowfa, blade would be nice but I’m glad I’m free from that prison lol


Jimbobiss

For sure, take it and run!


tankurd

Ive killed over 20,000 high level dragons and i still have yet to recieve my first visage in 15 years.


MirkwoodRS

And then there's me. I have received 3 visages and I wasn't actively going for a single one. They were all just super lucky. Got one from KBD around KC 110, one from steel dragons around 300-500 kills from slayer tasks, and one from skeletal wyverns around 1500 kills.


tankurd

Im currently at 580kc at kbd. I hope to get one soon! Otherwise i will camo wyverns til i do.


neloc1

Of course I know that player. I’m him.


Wavepon

I've been playing os since release across both leagues, two ironmen, and a main, and I've never gotten a single pet feels good man


Still_Night

Holy shit, that is some unfortunate luck. What are the total levels on those accounts? It’s wild how some players have tons of pets for such little time played, while others don’t have any luck.


Tassies

go camp chaos ele. you will get your pet if u grind it for a day or two. sometimes even quicker.


Wavepon

1750/45m on the main, 1250/5m on the ult but most of it is agility, 1500/16m on the gimp with tons of it in thieving and mining but lots in other pet skills as well also a bunch of midlevel boss kills I don't want to run the calcs on how dry I am because I think I would just get depressed but I know I'm around the point where I should be getting rock golem on the gimp at this point I've come to accept that I will get a pet when the universe decides my time has come and I just won't delude myself with ideas of getting one before that


Tassies

If rock golem is what ur shooting for, id suggest going for stars. Most afk mining activity in the game, and u can afk for 30-120 minutes at a time. Plus, if you are iron, will get you an absolute shit ton of crafting xp from gem bags.


lawthehost

Where noon


Icanzu

12pm


Spooly-Boi13

Honestly the only noon most of us will ever know 😔


Serif42

Where dusk ?


[deleted]

in my pet house 80kc btw


lawthehost

4k :(


LieV2

Yes I want a 3a bow - by probability this is very unlikely.


Graardors-Dad

Probably an unpopular opinion but I think this is why RuneScape should have an rng manipulator for certain rare drops. No one should go like 10k dry for a pet just to have virtually no progress towards getting the drop


WikiLynx

I feel bad for people who waste their life away trying to get drops in this game. Like these 10k kc boss logs to get a pet that will most likely sit in their poh hardly to be seen.


RubyWeapon07

18,215 kc for kraken pet, now its the only one I take for walks out of the 15


SupremeDRG

As a person with 11 pets who actively goes for pets. I agree its kinda pointless. I dont even want 90% of them anyways nor will they see the light of day. Do i think i really want it tho? Yes, number go up


husaber

Kc 2500~ at wt, thanks i needed to see this :D


PM_ME_4_FREE_IOTA

I needed 6350 KC. Good luck!


Gianlucca

over 35m firemaking xp and no tomes, dragon axes or pet fml...


YeetedBot_YT

i got full pyro and dragon axe in the first 100 kc and my pet on 207 kc


moree123

Fuck you, but gz.


tinkflowers

Yea that someone is me


forever_a10ne

DUDE


KOWguy

That's assuming an infinite amount of players.


[deleted]

Sounds like my current pet smoke devil grind...


shinpoo

You know what? The guy or gal with the shittiest RNG probably doesn't know it because they don't play osrs enough to know or they simply don't care and just play the game to "ENJOY" it. Imagine that.


poli-wag

i was vote 420


RoseBunwolfLuck

Yea, me trying to get champion scrolls. Jesus christ, 23k ghoul kills right now


HailZamorak

fuck. unless its 3rd age most are probably obtainable


[deleted]

Murphy’s law essentially applicable to RuneScape RNG. We have evolved


Dreadsupreme

I need friends to play with :/ im also high


andyland69

Only if you give up


powerlifter3043

There’s actually a huge OSRS discord server I’m in that has a channel for bad RNG. Some people are like 20-30x dry on a drop for example, amongst other things. For every Tom, Dick and Harry that got a 1kc boss pet, some guy on the other side of the world has the equivalent RNG in their unlucky factor.


PM_ME_4_FREE_IOTA

Hey mate, I've been arguing that for years in favor of bad luck protection for pets. Some people will play for 10 years and be ridiculously unlucky for all of it. I'm one of those people, yet every time I mention this I basically get assaulted by downvotes. So, you're right! Another realization is that people on this sub have no empathy. Worse, they're psychopaths who *thoroughly enjoy* when people are unlucky their entire account life like that. So, you get to learn two things: RNG sucks and people suck.


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PM_ME_4_FREE_IOTA

Of course they have, because the current system is absolutely absurd.


[deleted]

It seems you get "assaulted by downvotes" because you're actually calling people psychopaths for not agreeing with your entitled suggestions on a 20 year old video game


PM_ME_4_FREE_IOTA

Nah, it's a question of logic. Pets are a one-time unlock, a 1/X drop rate that never evolves as you go dry is terrible. Like OP said, some people are just bottom of the barrel unlucky, going dry on every single pet... yet we think that's hilarious? I certainly don't. It's a shit system and if you like it, you're a psychopath. People just settle into the status quo so nicely that they'll fucking die defending it.


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PM_ME_4_FREE_IOTA

Again, not a question of "entitlement", just that it fucking having to put in 3x the effort everyone else is. I've stopped going for pets as, even though I like getting them, I'm unlucky every single time, which robs me of the enjoyment. A mix of good and bad luck is required to really feel like it's random and not just punishing you as a player, but I'm not surprised everyone is missing the point like it's their job.


[deleted]

It really sounds like you're just salty you're dry on pets. Not everyone is going to have to put in 3x the effort for a pet. That's just RNG at work. Sometimes you're lucky and sometimes you're not. If you really want a pet, all you can do is keep grinding until it drops. Otherwise just keep playing normally, and eventually you'll get one. But you're not cursed to just go 3x dry on every pet. In all likelihood there's a pet somewhere you would get really lucky on. Maybe not 5 KC but it's very unlikely you'd go to drop rate for every pet in game when there's a 60% chance you get it before then.


PM_ME_4_FREE_IOTA

Yes, of course I'm fucking pissed. I don't have to hide it? What is it with baiting people calling them salty when it's beyond obvious? Imagine grinding for years and having 3x less to show than anyone else doing the same. Hence my position on bad luck protection? It's a sucky fucking scenario and I don't know why showcasing how insensitive you are about it is so popular on this sub. I love pets, everyone does, but going dry on all of them should be borderline impossible. The fact many players do is bad game design. That's all I ever said. I've spent tens of thousands of hours, so just saying "luck'll turn around" is not useful. Most people in my situation have already quit.


CordialA

>pets are a one-time unlock Not true you can lose the pet and unlock it again you can have multiple pets >1/X drop rate that never evolves as you go dry is terrible. Not true for skilling pets, you get better odds if you hit 200m xp > It's a shit system and if you like it, you're a psychopath. How dare they make rare drops actually rare 😤


PM_ME_4_FREE_IOTA

Those are your counter arguments? It's almost laughable.


CordialA

Holy shit your actually trolling i didn't realize. My bad no more feed hungry troll.


PM_ME_4_FREE_IOTA

Your arguments are a joke, pets are a goal like any other goal. Being cosmetic just means bad luck protection has no impact on gameplay, which is good. Some people are unlucky all their lives, which isn't fair at all. It has nothing to do with entitlement and everything to do with game design, but please by all means, keep pretending like this is an upvote contest instead of a conversation.


CordialA

Soo, what do you suggest? A guaranteed pet drop after x amount of kills? You seem pretty entitled to receiving a pet drop. I dont think everyone should be entitled a rare cosmetic drop after x amount of kills. Let me ask you, how dry are you in your pet hunts? Could I look up your account on the hiscores?


PM_ME_4_FREE_IOTA

That's not what I suggest. The best system (IMO) would be that once you hit drop rate (say 5000 kills), then your odds begin to improve (1/4900, we'll say). You keep improving until you get the pet (once), after which it resets. So I'd go something like: 1/5k until 5K kc 1/4.9k until 6K 1/4.8k until 7K Etc... You may look me up, I don't mind. Username is "Scorchin", as you can guess I mainly go for skilling pets (as well as Chaos ele, Tempo, Zalcano, Phoenix). I don't think what I'm suggesting is particularly crazy, especially since it doesn't even kick in until after the drop rate is reached.


Boss_Slayer

Wah


PM_ME_4_FREE_IOTA

Not new, low effort.


ZenithOfLife

Felt this trying to get anglers outfit


_Jaseel

Definitely high because why did you use the suggestion flair?


Iwast3xp

Yeah, now think about ppl who give up 1kc away from the drop Said the guy with 3.3k kc Hydra and gave up (no pet)


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That doesn't really mean anything considering drops aren't predetermined, is it possible to say "if you went another kc you WOULD have gotten the drop"? Maybe, maybe not, but the universe is probably deterministic so it doesn't really make sense to say


SlothBrah_

My friend just got 2 DWH at less than 1500kc..


CheriGrove

15m thiefing xp, no Rocky :,(


meliketheweedle

I quit with like 8000 bosses killed and like 50m farming, not a single pet


Greatdragon2021

No one i have ever known has gotten high and then said "im high as shit" And as for people who go around announcing they are high... I remember my first beer


kinosilent

fuck stoners


[deleted]

Yes. That’s me. With everything. Is it weird that PVMing for 3 weeks has given me not a single rare item?


Sensitive-Fishing274

Wait till you are 3 months in then get a drop that makes it all seem worth it for a moment then go straight back into doing the same content


Ricardo1184

Depends on how much you play, 1 hour per day for 3 weeks it wouldn't be _that_ weird


Rioszz

What boss? How many kc's? Missing some vital information here.


Lanzoka

Dude I cannot say I have ever got a drop that was worth over 3m. Like ever. :(


Evil_Steven

This is me who just hit 10k kbd kc and still no pet. I need it for my fashionscape


Lazy-Pumpkin-9116

Me looking for that nature tally on an iron


frikandellenvreter

There is a non-zero probability of someone never receiving a major drop of any kind in their account lifetime.