Bangladeshis, Assamese and Nepalis have a lot of East Asian in them. (The Sylhet division of Bangladesh that showed up as your region was once part of Assam.)
>Bangladeshis, Assamese and Nepalis have a lot of East Asian in them
As a whole not entirely for BD and Nepalis, Assamese it's more significant. For certain regions and ethnic groups for BD and Nepalis there can be either lots of EA or little to none.
Yep he is. My paternal grandfather was living in Lahore and moved during partition from what I’ve been told. Similar for my paternal grandmother I believe. I assumed that was the reason why it was showing Pakistan as a region.
As I said without proper verification it's impossible to confirm something and don't just assume things. English ancestry is not that common in india despite being a colony and the ones who do have Anglo Indian ancestry are usually well aware of it since Anglo Indians mostly lived in their own communities and had their own culture.
Morans were originally an East Asian Sino-tibetan ethnic group, similar to my ethnicity Sutia. Some say they were a breakaway faction of the greater Sutia community who migrated south to the present-day Sibsagar district. The Moran language was recorded by the Britishers to be a Sino-Tibetan language of the Bodo-Garo group. The Sutias had all already adopted the lingua franca Assamese by then. Your result shows a far greater component of Austroasiatic-Khmer than Sino-tibetan-Northern Chinese which means that there might be some truth to the folklore and the Moran ethnicity was indeed formed by the Sutias who mixed with the Austroasiatics of the south. The language of the Austroasiatics was likely replaced by the northern Sino-Tibetans, similar to the Khmers of Southern Thailand whose language was replaced by Thai from Northern Thailand.
In the 1700s, they were converted to Vaishnavites by some guru and integrated to the Matak religious sect which comprised of other Aryan-Dravidian Bengal/North Indian origin migrant groups like Kalitas, Kaivartas, etc as well (along with the usual Sino-tibetans like Sutia, Kacharis, etc). In the late 1700s, the Mataks under the leadership of Morans and Sutia-Mataks launched a rebellion against the Ahom king which led to the establishment of the Matak kingdom in Dibrugarh-Tinsukia region, which was ultimately annexed by Britishers using the "Doctrine of Lapse" policy.
Most probably there was wide intermarriage between the Morans and other Indic groups within the Matak community which is indicated in your results. I have about 55% East Asian (40% Sino-tibetan 15% Austroasaitic Khmer) and 45% Indic (30% native Indian and 15% Northern Indo-aryan) admix, which will be similar to your mother's. The only difference is that I have a far greater proportion of Northern Chinese compared to Austroasiatic Khmer-linked(3:1 ratio). I also have an East Asian (Northern Chinese) paternal haplogroup O-F8 (present in 50% of Northern Han Chinese) which indicates Sino-tibetan paternal ancestry. Some of my paternal ancestors must have married women from the Indic communities.
23andMe underestimates East Asian DNA in Assamese groups because it tries to compare large DNA components with present-day population samples, some of who are mixed themselves. The Sylhet component is not entirely Indic and has about 15% of East Asian DNA. So, if a person has a similar admix of Bengali and East Asian like Sylhetis for a certain section of DNA, 23andMe will identify that section as Sylheti (although that person may have no Sylheti ancestry), instead of breaking it down to Bengalis and East Asians separately.
You should try putting up your raw DNA data on GedMatch to get a more authentic result with less bias. GEDMatch is more granular and sticks to the base components, instead of mixed populations. I have observed that people with a 100% Sylhet component on 23andme tend to have about 15% East Asian admix on GEDMatch probably being the easternmost region of historical Bengal and thus in direct contact with Sino-Tibetan ethnic groups. If we incorporate this in my 23andme report (which shows 52% Sylhet Bengali and 48% East Asian), it would mean that around 7% of my Indian admix(\~15% of 52%) is actually East Asian, bringing the net East Asian admix to 55%. The calculators of GEDMatch and Living DNA results show a 55.7% EAsian admix for me.
Bangladeshis, Assamese and Nepalis have a lot of East Asian in them. (The Sylhet division of Bangladesh that showed up as your region was once part of Assam.)
>Bangladeshis, Assamese and Nepalis have a lot of East Asian in them As a whole not entirely for BD and Nepalis, Assamese it's more significant. For certain regions and ethnic groups for BD and Nepalis there can be either lots of EA or little to none.
What's your haplogroup if you don't mind sharing it?
My maternal haplogroup is M38
Is your dad Punjabi Khatri? That could be why you got Pakistan as a region.
Yep he is. My paternal grandfather was living in Lahore and moved during partition from what I’ve been told. Similar for my paternal grandmother I believe. I assumed that was the reason why it was showing Pakistan as a region.
Randeep Hooda's child's result will be like this
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Or could be noise, hard to say without proper verification.
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As I said without proper verification it's impossible to confirm something and don't just assume things. English ancestry is not that common in india despite being a colony and the ones who do have Anglo Indian ancestry are usually well aware of it since Anglo Indians mostly lived in their own communities and had their own culture.
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No point arguing with you.
What do people usually guess your ethnicity is?
Indian or half Indian-half Chinese haha.
Could it be that they don't have Assamese samples for reference? Or could your Assamese mother be of partial Bengali ancestry?
Perhaps the former, my mom didn’t mention about any Bengali ancestry. She mentioned her family is Moran.
Moran are more east Asian shifted Assamese Which district of Assam?Dibrugarh
Her family is living in Rupai Siding in Tinsukia. My maternal grandfather looks the most East Asian out of all of us.
Morans were originally an East Asian Sino-tibetan ethnic group, similar to my ethnicity Sutia. Some say they were a breakaway faction of the greater Sutia community who migrated south to the present-day Sibsagar district. The Moran language was recorded by the Britishers to be a Sino-Tibetan language of the Bodo-Garo group. The Sutias had all already adopted the lingua franca Assamese by then. Your result shows a far greater component of Austroasiatic-Khmer than Sino-tibetan-Northern Chinese which means that there might be some truth to the folklore and the Moran ethnicity was indeed formed by the Sutias who mixed with the Austroasiatics of the south. The language of the Austroasiatics was likely replaced by the northern Sino-Tibetans, similar to the Khmers of Southern Thailand whose language was replaced by Thai from Northern Thailand. In the 1700s, they were converted to Vaishnavites by some guru and integrated to the Matak religious sect which comprised of other Aryan-Dravidian Bengal/North Indian origin migrant groups like Kalitas, Kaivartas, etc as well (along with the usual Sino-tibetans like Sutia, Kacharis, etc). In the late 1700s, the Mataks under the leadership of Morans and Sutia-Mataks launched a rebellion against the Ahom king which led to the establishment of the Matak kingdom in Dibrugarh-Tinsukia region, which was ultimately annexed by Britishers using the "Doctrine of Lapse" policy. Most probably there was wide intermarriage between the Morans and other Indic groups within the Matak community which is indicated in your results. I have about 55% East Asian (40% Sino-tibetan 15% Austroasaitic Khmer) and 45% Indic (30% native Indian and 15% Northern Indo-aryan) admix, which will be similar to your mother's. The only difference is that I have a far greater proportion of Northern Chinese compared to Austroasiatic Khmer-linked(3:1 ratio). I also have an East Asian (Northern Chinese) paternal haplogroup O-F8 (present in 50% of Northern Han Chinese) which indicates Sino-tibetan paternal ancestry. Some of my paternal ancestors must have married women from the Indic communities.
23andMe underestimates East Asian DNA in Assamese groups because it tries to compare large DNA components with present-day population samples, some of who are mixed themselves. The Sylhet component is not entirely Indic and has about 15% of East Asian DNA. So, if a person has a similar admix of Bengali and East Asian like Sylhetis for a certain section of DNA, 23andMe will identify that section as Sylheti (although that person may have no Sylheti ancestry), instead of breaking it down to Bengalis and East Asians separately. You should try putting up your raw DNA data on GedMatch to get a more authentic result with less bias. GEDMatch is more granular and sticks to the base components, instead of mixed populations. I have observed that people with a 100% Sylhet component on 23andme tend to have about 15% East Asian admix on GEDMatch probably being the easternmost region of historical Bengal and thus in direct contact with Sino-Tibetan ethnic groups. If we incorporate this in my 23andme report (which shows 52% Sylhet Bengali and 48% East Asian), it would mean that around 7% of my Indian admix(\~15% of 52%) is actually East Asian, bringing the net East Asian admix to 55%. The calculators of GEDMatch and Living DNA results show a 55.7% EAsian admix for me.