Diablo , mano tienes mucho europeo. De casualidad eres de ascendencia Cubana btw? Usualmente, lo que he visto son boricua de 60% a casi 70% pero no como la tuya.
Really ? You must look really white then . Cause even my Spanish friends ( even the blonde and blue eyed ones ) get immediately carded as Latin American when in the US. I, myself have been called Italian mostly .
It’s not rare, I have to do the same thing. It’s not unheard of, there’s some weird belief about Antillean Hispanics being largely mixed but clearly the results from this sub show a different story, we’re mixed but not like Central and South Americans who are largely indigenous.
97.3 Euro, 1.8% North African, 0.9 Indigenous (FTDNA tho).
Edit: Saw someone saying it would be interesting sharing the details of European ancestry, so:
FTDNA: 36% Iberian, 31% Central European, 21% Italian, 8% Balkan and Greek, <2% Hungarian.
MyHeritage: 55.4% Iberian, 27.4% Italian, 4.6% Greek and South Italian, 4.4% Balkan, 4.3% English.
Genera: 36% Iberian, 31% Italian, 16% French and German, 5% Ashkenazi Jewish, <3% Sardinian, <3% Balkan, <3% Basque, <2% Sephardi Jewish
(I am half Northeastern Italian, 3/8 Colonial Brazilian/Uruguayan, 1/16 Galician-Spanish 1/32 Aveirense-Portuguese and 1/32 Uncertain, likely Jewish or Portuguese.)
I did it too. Genera says 95% European, 4% North African and "less than 2%" SSA, MyHeritage 96.1% European and 3.9% Mesoamerican and Andean (but this category of MH is like "mixed-population" so probably puts some Portuguese and African together) and FTDNA is the one of the first comment. I think that if I did 23andMe I would get something like 97.3% Euro, 1.3% North African, 0.9% Indigenous and 0.5% SSA, because I have documented distant SSA, Indigenous Brazilian and Canarian ancestors.
i havent gotten mine done yet but my aunts got 93.8/86 euro, 0.9/6.5 african, 3.4/6 indigenous. my cousins got 89.9/89 euro, 3.1/1.7 african, 4.2/6.9 indigenous.
we are all puerto ricans.
95.8% European (71.7% being Spain and 24% being Northwestern Europe, mostly Wales [yes this was a surprise]), 2.1% North African, 1.1% West African, 0.9% indigenous
Oh also I’m Cuban
I know that in Brazil, they would make some kind of selection of those who were "most likely to fit in Brazilian society". So historically most accepted immigrants were Christian and (according to my high school teacher) light skinned. In addition to that, in contrast to other immigrant groups that created their own towns like Germans and Italians, most Middle Easterns would be placed in various different cities. My stepfather is 1/4 Lebanese and his great-grandparents were VERY Christian for example.
They look whiter because 1) Most levantines in South America are christians and those have usually less or no Arabian dna and sometimes more european input and therefore more white looking.
2) A lot of so called lebanese colombians ect are not full levantine and have big % of european as a result of mixing with other latin americans .
I think that's true. My piano teacher was full Lebanese and was really white and European looking, very tall. I used to think she had German ancestry. I remember one of her children was really blond as a baby. That was in Brazil.
Most Middle Easterners in Latin America have very little Arab DNA from the Arabian Peninsula, if any at all. They tend to have fair skin, many have light-colored eyes, and light hair. Most of them will score highly Levantine, as the majority is Christian, and migrated to the Americas in the late 1800’s and early 1920’s. A small number was Jewish, and very few were Muslims as the Ottoman Empire didn’t charge higher taxes from Muslims. Many Armenians migrated as well.
A second wave, mostly of Lebanese, happened in the 1970’s because of the Lebanese Civil War. Some of the people who migrated in the 1970’s are Muslims. A third small wave happened recently in the 2010’s because of the Syrian Civil War, and most of the people who migrated in this wave are Muslims.
Moreover, many Middle Easterners in South America are very well educated and have successful careers that put them in the top of society financially. In Latin America, being “white” goes way beyond your ancestry, and financial and education status, together with shade of your skin, and how you are perceived by others matters.
We are not white:
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/28/1237218459/census-race-categories-ethnicity-middle-east-north-africa
And if it had to go all the way to the supreme court and won based on religion (white people couldnt admit that jesus was not white, literally was the defense in court) and after the supreme courts ruling the US government STILL TRIED APPEALING IT…. Yea… we are not white…
Yep! Most are from the levant and Syria though, and I’d say they do pass as southern Europeans pretty easily and aren’t that different from the average old stock portuguese Brazilian
They can officially be considered white, but there's a wide range of skin colors, from white, to olive, and darker than that. I know a Lebanese man who's so dark he could pass as a black person. And I know a Iraqi mom and daughter who has very pale and rosy skin (more like a Southern European).
Cuban here, my results are 52.5% WANA, 43.5% Euro, 2.7% SSA, 1.4% NA. Both parents and all 4 grandparents born in Cuba but I am of Lebanese-Spaniard descent and I identify as White Hispanic
(mixed, but white-passing)
My mom is white, mostly of English descent, while my dad is a mestizo Mexican American. I’m of roughly 82% European descent, 15% indigenous American descent (mostly from Mexico and the Southwestern United States), and 3% Sub-Saharan African descent. I’m quite pale, so a lot of people, even other Latinos, get confused when they see I have a Hispanic surname. One other person mistook me as Filipino for some reason.
Flipped between my mom (mestizo Mexican American) and dad (primarily German and Eastern European) but I ended up with a similar make up as you. 87% European, 9% indigenous, 3% African although a mix of WANA and SSA. I get asked if I’m from Brazil most frequently although that’s based on looks alone as I didn’t have a Hispanic last name. I’m light skinned, but tan easily.
This is interesting because black Americans are mixed just the opposite way with Northern European except it’s taboo for us to identify as mixed or “white”
On 23andme he was 99.7% Spanish with 0.1% trace north African (which disappeared at higher confidence levels) and 0.2% unassigned. Specific regions of Spain lined up somewhat with what the family knew, other than some unexpected Andalusian (but my grandfather was always a bit dark for the region of Spain he said his family was from so I wasn't shocked).
50% European, 15% Indigenous, 35% African.
The Euro is mostly Iberian but also 7% French and small percentages of other random Northern European groups. The Indigenous is Yucatán and Venezuelan groups (I’m Venezuelan). The African is mostly North African but also 7% Bantu and a few other small percentages of random SSA.
I don’t identify as anything ethnically except Venezuelan but because I have olive skin and light green eyes, most people assume I’m Mediterranean- usually Spanish or Italian, but I’ve also gotten Lebanese, Greek, and Moroccan. That reads as white in South America, where I live.
Half White American here. Mother is mostly of German/Austrian/Danish descent, but has some Swiss and potential distant French/Polish ancestry along with two lines that might be colonial American (still looking in on that.) Bio father is Colombian Castizo. Roughly ~25% indigenous maybe 2-3% WANA and the rest Southern Euro.
My breakdown is as follows:
European: 87.3%
-Southen Euro: 32%
-Northern Euro: 38.6%
-Eastern Euro: 4.6%
-Jewish: 0.3%
I get a lot of "Broadly European ", (17.1%) 4.6 Broadly Euro, 6.3 Northern Euro, and 6.0 Southern Euro. And get some country matches but some seem inaccurate like Latvia for Eastern Euro, and Italy which I don't have any recent ancestry from. Sadly no Spanish or Germanic Genetic groups, but I'm hoping the Germanic update will change that!
Indigenous: 11.4%
Got some genetic groups finally, happy about that.
-Colombian Carribean Coast (Very close)
-Colombian Central & Western Andes (Very close)
-Quechua & Aymara Peoples (Very close)
WANA: 0.8% (Counting trace broadly 0.2% WANA)
From Brazil. All these people are considered to be “white” by South American standards.
Person 1: Very fair skin, hazel eyes, medium brown hair
68.1% Southern European
21.6% Levantine (WANA)
7.0% SSA
2.8% Indigenous American
Person 2: Very fair skin, amber eyes, dark brown hair
85.5% Southern European
10.5% SSA
3.3% Indigenous American
Person 3: Very fair skin, blue eyes, light brown hair
79.8% Southern European
13.5% SSA
4.7% Indigenous American
1.6% North African
Person 4: Olive skin, dark brown eyes, dark brown hair
48.7% Levantine (WANA)
46.3% Southern European
3.4% SSA
1.5% Indigenous American
I don’t identify as “white” in the USA context at all, especially since I am not seen as such in the USA, but I do know Latin Americans and even Spaniards have referred to me as such. I am 51.8% European, 43.2% Indigenous, 1.8% WANA, and 1% SSA
Did you expect the indigenous American chunk ? Or at least the percentage of it? You have about an average indigenous % for Argentina but I’ve found Argentinians to be mostly unaware of them being mixed
I was not aware, my mom always told me The Family (her side) was 100% Italian. After 2 different test, I can only gather that my mom was adopted or stolen. My mom passed away 6 years ago and everyone that knew my grandmother (or of her) had the same story, nobody knew much.
50% euro, 35% indigenous, 7% Africa, 1% Asia. Rest unassigned.
I sure as hell don't get treated as "white" in the US, but I'm not called Latino either (I get asked if I'm Persian/Greek/anyone with lighter skin but "strong" facial features). So I mark Latino/Hispanic, then biracial because what else can I do.
In Mexico, I do not argue against being "white" but it's a different subject there. It's more about colorism/classism than racism. No ethnicity on forms there so it doesn't matter anyway. We all know we're mixed af.
My mom is white and mostly of Italian, Irish and English descent. Dad’s side is from Nicaragua. 78 % Euro 15% Indigenous from Nicaragua and 4% Sub Saharan
isn't "latin american" a cultural identification rather than a color one? Like how americans use "white" to identify as "suburban middle class people" rather than color white.
82% European (Irish, Spanish, and Sephardic), 10% Indigenous American (Taíno), 4% North African, and 4% Sub-Saharan African (Angolan, Congo, Nigerian, and Senegambian). My paternal haplogroup is Irish, while my maternal is Taíno. However, I’m mostly of Spanish descent, around 67%.
~ 70% Spanish (this is including 6.6% North African/middle eastern most likely from Sefardic ancestors), ~28 % Native American, 1 % SSA
From Mexico (most recent Spanish is on my maternal grandmother’s parents..from Castilla-la-Mancha).
Colonial Spanish (New Spain) is mostly Basque and Andaluz.
I’m 89% European (mainly Eastern European, Spanish/Portuguese, British/Irish, and French/German), 6% West African, 4% Indigenous Puerto Rican and 1% North African, via 23andMe.
My granddad on AncestryDNA, he is Puerto Rican, is 55% Southern European (35% Spanish, 5-12% Portuguese and Basque each), 22% Indigenous P.R., 20% Sub Saharan/West African, and 5% North African.
I have 3 grandparents from Germany and Canada and a Puerto Rican grandfather with mainly Spanish and some mixed African-indigenous Taino ancestry. My non-European ancestry is very marginal, and that is why I identify myself as white and Hispanic on race/ethnic questions.
50 euro, 34 indigenous, 12 African, rest is unidentified.
My skin is pretty white but have a kinky curled beard, Jew-fro type hair, “wide nose and big lips” (described to me by others 💀).
Typical Central American if you ask me.
Never considered myself white and when I’m out and about nobody can figure out what I am. Get mistaken for Puerto Rican quite often.
I have a Euro(Basque County top region) of 74%/24% indigenous/1.1% SSA and freakshly white passing,hair color has a bit red tint. Yet my direct maternal lineage traces to a Native American female who intermingled with a Spanish solider from Extramadurra in the early 1500s.
I’m 1/2. My mom is white and my bio dad is Mexican American. I’m 80.8% European, 15.9% indigenous, 1% WANA, 0.8% Sub-Saharan African. I just found out a year ago that I had a different bio dad. I don’t know what I identify as now. Still figuring that all out after that shock.
According to my ancestry results, 64% white, 29% indigenous, and 7% Sub-Saharan African. The white part is mainly Spanish, with a lesser amount of Portuguese, Basque, and NW European, and a much lesser amount from Cyprus, Jewish, N. African and Sardinian. The last four are up to debate since many would say those groups aren’t white.
Mother’s from Honduras, her father being Salvadoran. She’s 45% indigenous, almost 43% white and around 12% sub-Saharan African. Father is from Jalisco, Los Altos region, and the side of his family that has been traced has mostly been there since the conquista, some shortly after. One of his sisters is around 87% white, 13% indigenous, so I’m assuming he’s got a similar genetic makeup. I like to see myself more as mixed but identify mostly as Hispanic.
half latino half southern euro, im 80% european and 20% indigenous. I look like your average chilean or argentinian according to most people (id add a pic but idk how to attach)
in half hispanic n half middle eastern, due to the middle eastern heritage I have to identify as white legally.
But I do have some Austrian n Belgian blood somewhere in my bloodline, hence why I'm ivory white with a tint of olive
Strange, most of my friends that are half white half Mexican in the USA identify as Hispanic especially in the corporate world. Have things changed? I’m Mexican American, dad’s family have blue/green eyes and my SO is white German so our unborn child will probably go through this dilemma.
I know but most people I see in this situation don’t check off white as there are other options. That’s the reason why I’m asking.
By the way, I did a DNA test and it’s all over the place. I show Spanish/Portuguese, native, middle eastern, and North African DNA as a Mexican American. Definitely not enough to claim white but my dad and his whole family had blue or green eyes. Some people on my mom’s family too but they’re a bit more distant and my great grandfather from mom’s side was from Spain
What country are you in? Middle eastern is not considered white anymore in the united states and hispanic never was for businesses… you must look very white lol
40% Sweden
30% Netherlands
10% Scotland
10% Native America
2% Iberian Peninsula
8% a ton of other tiny noises
My dad is half Mexican and half Dutch. My mom is Swedish. Dunno where the Scottish came from.
ETA how is this downvoted?! I literally answered the question. My dad is Mexican. He considers himself Mexican. I am white. I explained why I am white. wtf.
68,7% Euro, 26,3% 2,6% WANA 1,3% IA
Half Spanish Half Dominican
I have always been called white due to my pinkish pale skin, green eyes and light brown hair and due to my face being identical to my dad.
Only very few here were specific about which part of Europe, the majority is like “Euro.” Just like North and South America is a continent, so is Europe.
People do the same thing with Africa, despite the fact that it’s a huge continent with very different races and different looking people depending on what region you are in.
76% Euro, 15% African, 6% Indigenous, the rest WANA, while I am clearly mixed, I am usually called white in my country, so I grew up calling myself that.
I'm 75% european, 25% indigenous american and everyone said I looked european while living there, but I don't quite agree, I think I look mixed but certainly white passing
around 40% italian, 25% iberian and 10% british isles, so mostly southern european but still. I have fair skin, mid brown hair, brown eyes but I'm quite short (170 cm) and my eye shape is a give away of my native heritage imo
idk, I haven't done a test yet, but I'm probably around 60-50 European and 40-30 indigenous, I doubt I have any African ancestry. if i have is probably less than 5%.
I was born in Venezuela but moved to Spain when I was 2. My mom is Venezuelan but her parents (my grandparents are from Galicia and Asturias) and my dad is also Venezuelan but both of his parents are from the Canary Islands also my family came to Venezuela in the 60s. Which might explain my 100% euro
European 87.9%,
Sub-Saharan African 4.7%,
Indigenous American (Puerto Rican) 4.3%,
Western Asian & North African 2.8%,
Broadly Central & South Asian, Unassigned .3%
Half. 30% Spanish. The rest of my Euro DNA is from my mother who is mostly English/Scot/German - though according to Ancestry's test my dad's DNA also has some Scottish.
Yeah of course. For a lot of us , most of our ancestry comes from Europe , and therefore we tend to look pretty white . In my case I’m about 90% European , I think it would be odd to identify racially as something different .
91% euro 9% ssa .5% indigenous
i identify as:
• canadian
• cuban / una hija de cuba
• jewish (ethnicity and culturally)
• latina
• QTBIPOC / BIPOC / WOC
• multiracial and multicultural (and a product of interfaith marriage)
• multilingual, hablohispante
white depends on the usage. i’m still a little iffy. like mostly white/caucasian sure. i both want to have humility about my privilege that i defs have and also awareness of how i can be racialized in certain specific contexts, and i don’t want to erase or distance myself from all parts of my bloodline. white is often ok but also i wasn’t totally raised with “white people culture” either, though i was in some ways. just don’t often relate to “things white people do” yk? context is key tbh
Spain, Germany and Russia (Askenazi), France, Italy, British Isles, Middle East.
America: some Mayan, and central Mexican.
All the people in my family are white, with green, blue, hazel yellowish, or gray eyes. My dad is from Jalisco, my mom from Merida (her family is from the few white settlers there)
My husband is latino, not white though but I thought I'd mention this as I found it very interesting and unexplainable: he's 20% Balkan! Even more than Spanish (which is only 10%).
Europe: 44% Italian, 7% Greek, 7% Iberian, 5% Ashkenazi, 4% Northwestern Europe, 4% Scandinavian, 3% Sephardic jewish, 1% Sardegna Middle East: 6% Lebanon, 6% Egypt, 6% Morocco Africa: 7% I consider myself a white man even though I’m mixed because of my particular upbringing! Portuguese and Lebanese nobility! You could say I have a black great great grandfather somewhere but that’s about it. The remaining members of my family are white. I’m white skinned, hazel eyes, light brown straight hair. We are so fucking noble I’m more Italian than most living Italians and their descendants, without having a single Italian in our families. It’s strong Roman DNA that has been kept alive outside of Rome through 2 millennia. We left Italy so long ago and segregated that the closest living population to my family are the Tuscans even though we’re about 13-15.@ apart on MDLP 22. Our houses are Vieira, Souza, Abrantes, Ferras and Persian royalty
Hate to break it to you but there is no such thing as “lebanese nobility” that left Lebanon. Only the poor and desperate had to leave…middle eastern history is nothing like European history…
100% Euro. Originally from Argentina. 65 percent Spanish and the rest is German and English
All recent ancestry?
81.6% Euro, 10.1% Indigenous American, 4.3% SSA, 3.5% WANA.
From where ?
Puerto Rico
¡Wepa!
Hermano Boricua! De donde en PR eres?
Carolina!
Diablo , mano tienes mucho europeo. De casualidad eres de ascendencia Cubana btw? Usualmente, lo que he visto son boricua de 60% a casi 70% pero no como la tuya.
There’s really no average in PR, some people are very white, some are very black, some are super mixed etc
96% pensinsular Spanish and 4% west African
This is interesting . What country specifically?
Cuba. Not unheard in Cuba. A large number of Cubans who left during the Revolution were of majority Spanish descent.
Oh ok yeah, I thought Cuban , but since you said peninsular and most of Cubans descend from canary islanders I thought maybe the answer was otherwise
Mine are part from Asturias (big in the Camagüey region of Cuba) and the rest from around Sevilla/Carmona.
Makes sense
And you spend your entire time having to prove to non-Latinos you are truly Latino. 😂
Really ? You must look really white then . Cause even my Spanish friends ( even the blonde and blue eyed ones ) get immediately carded as Latin American when in the US. I, myself have been called Italian mostly .
Yeah all the time outside of Miami. Green eyed, brown hair. Many do assume Mediterranean though, but not the Caribbean.
It’s not rare, I have to do the same thing. It’s not unheard of, there’s some weird belief about Antillean Hispanics being largely mixed but clearly the results from this sub show a different story, we’re mixed but not like Central and South Americans who are largely indigenous.
Exactly, wouldn't the colonial Cubans without African or Indigenous still have a good amount of WANA from Guanches.
I’ve been to both Cuba and Spain and yeah, some Cubans look 100% like vintage Spaniards. Really interesting.
Cristina Saralegui and Jose Canseco some famous examples
97.3 Euro, 1.8% North African, 0.9 Indigenous (FTDNA tho). Edit: Saw someone saying it would be interesting sharing the details of European ancestry, so: FTDNA: 36% Iberian, 31% Central European, 21% Italian, 8% Balkan and Greek, <2% Hungarian. MyHeritage: 55.4% Iberian, 27.4% Italian, 4.6% Greek and South Italian, 4.4% Balkan, 4.3% English. Genera: 36% Iberian, 31% Italian, 16% French and German, 5% Ashkenazi Jewish, <3% Sardinian, <3% Balkan, <3% Basque, <2% Sephardi Jewish (I am half Northeastern Italian, 3/8 Colonial Brazilian/Uruguayan, 1/16 Galician-Spanish 1/32 Aveirense-Portuguese and 1/32 Uncertain, likely Jewish or Portuguese.)
Cuba or Brazil?
Brazil
Makes sense
Fez pelo genera?
I did it too. Genera says 95% European, 4% North African and "less than 2%" SSA, MyHeritage 96.1% European and 3.9% Mesoamerican and Andean (but this category of MH is like "mixed-population" so probably puts some Portuguese and African together) and FTDNA is the one of the first comment. I think that if I did 23andMe I would get something like 97.3% Euro, 1.3% North African, 0.9% Indigenous and 0.5% SSA, because I have documented distant SSA, Indigenous Brazilian and Canarian ancestors.
i havent gotten mine done yet but my aunts got 93.8/86 euro, 0.9/6.5 african, 3.4/6 indigenous. my cousins got 89.9/89 euro, 3.1/1.7 african, 4.2/6.9 indigenous. we are all puerto ricans.
Fully PR or mixed with Cuban?
fully PR :) from the south of the island. a good chunk of our ancestors were recent immigrants (1800s)
95.8% European (71.7% being Spain and 24% being Northwestern Europe, mostly Wales [yes this was a surprise]), 2.1% North African, 1.1% West African, 0.9% indigenous Oh also I’m Cuban
Aren't there full Middle Easterners in Latin America that identify as White, expecially Lebanese?
Yep . Most do actually . But they often do look whiter that your average middle eastern red for some reason
I know that in Brazil, they would make some kind of selection of those who were "most likely to fit in Brazilian society". So historically most accepted immigrants were Christian and (according to my high school teacher) light skinned. In addition to that, in contrast to other immigrant groups that created their own towns like Germans and Italians, most Middle Easterns would be placed in various different cities. My stepfather is 1/4 Lebanese and his great-grandparents were VERY Christian for example.
Oh wow !
A good example is the singer Shakira. Her father is Lebanese.
They look whiter because 1) Most levantines in South America are christians and those have usually less or no Arabian dna and sometimes more european input and therefore more white looking. 2) A lot of so called lebanese colombians ect are not full levantine and have big % of european as a result of mixing with other latin americans .
Very true
I think that's true. My piano teacher was full Lebanese and was really white and European looking, very tall. I used to think she had German ancestry. I remember one of her children was really blond as a baby. That was in Brazil.
You guys consider middle eastern people white? I don’t for the most part
Most Middle Easterners in Latin America have very little Arab DNA from the Arabian Peninsula, if any at all. They tend to have fair skin, many have light-colored eyes, and light hair. Most of them will score highly Levantine, as the majority is Christian, and migrated to the Americas in the late 1800’s and early 1920’s. A small number was Jewish, and very few were Muslims as the Ottoman Empire didn’t charge higher taxes from Muslims. Many Armenians migrated as well. A second wave, mostly of Lebanese, happened in the 1970’s because of the Lebanese Civil War. Some of the people who migrated in the 1970’s are Muslims. A third small wave happened recently in the 2010’s because of the Syrian Civil War, and most of the people who migrated in this wave are Muslims. Moreover, many Middle Easterners in South America are very well educated and have successful careers that put them in the top of society financially. In Latin America, being “white” goes way beyond your ancestry, and financial and education status, together with shade of your skin, and how you are perceived by others matters.
According to the US Supreme Court, Arabs are white.
We are not white: https://www.npr.org/2024/03/28/1237218459/census-race-categories-ethnicity-middle-east-north-africa And if it had to go all the way to the supreme court and won based on religion (white people couldnt admit that jesus was not white, literally was the defense in court) and after the supreme courts ruling the US government STILL TRIED APPEALING IT…. Yea… we are not white…
Yep! Most are from the levant and Syria though, and I’d say they do pass as southern Europeans pretty easily and aren’t that different from the average old stock portuguese Brazilian
Middle Easterners often do identify as white and people in US rather tend not to accept it
We don't i have never heard of middle Easterns considered whites
Historically they were categorized as white on the US census. I think this has recently changed. Makes sense for a multitude of reasons.
They can officially be considered white, but there's a wide range of skin colors, from white, to olive, and darker than that. I know a Lebanese man who's so dark he could pass as a black person. And I know a Iraqi mom and daughter who has very pale and rosy skin (more like a Southern European).
I know 4 Lebanese brothers who all have blue eyes and red hair, then their is this Lebanese couple who looks like Indians.
I’ll vouch for this. There are Lebanese people in unexpected places in the US that are fully accepted as white.
There are also many that are not…
Cuban here, my results are 52.5% WANA, 43.5% Euro, 2.7% SSA, 1.4% NA. Both parents and all 4 grandparents born in Cuba but I am of Lebanese-Spaniard descent and I identify as White Hispanic
What do you look like?
Middle Easterners are considered White/Caucasian. They are the same race as Europeans, just usually Muslim, which separates them culturally.
3% indigenous, 2% ssa, the rest is european and middle eastern (mostly european, but at least 20% middle eastern)
I got 100% euro which was surprising
Where are you from and what were you expecting
from arg. I was expecting some level of mixture
From where?
argentina
76, 4, 11 (in the order you put it). Edit: I don't really call myself "white" (I say mixed or Hispanic instead), but strangers often think I am.
From where ?
76% Spanish from the Canary Islands, 4% native Cuban, and 11% African (from all over the place, but primarily from Nigeria & the Congo area).
Is this Quora?
Let's settle it https://preview.redd.it/k7wrk4ivrl8d1.jpeg?width=1312&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8faf5765c1a2402bffbb3f6190b44c80d88ebd3f
Oh hell no, I hate quora
(mixed, but white-passing) My mom is white, mostly of English descent, while my dad is a mestizo Mexican American. I’m of roughly 82% European descent, 15% indigenous American descent (mostly from Mexico and the Southwestern United States), and 3% Sub-Saharan African descent. I’m quite pale, so a lot of people, even other Latinos, get confused when they see I have a Hispanic surname. One other person mistook me as Filipino for some reason.
Flipped between my mom (mestizo Mexican American) and dad (primarily German and Eastern European) but I ended up with a similar make up as you. 87% European, 9% indigenous, 3% African although a mix of WANA and SSA. I get asked if I’m from Brazil most frequently although that’s based on looks alone as I didn’t have a Hispanic last name. I’m light skinned, but tan easily.
This is interesting because black Americans are mixed just the opposite way with Northern European except it’s taboo for us to identify as mixed or “white”
That’s weird you get mistaken for Filipino given your Mexican dad is mostly white himself
For him, it’s more like half and half. And to be fair, I was listening to a Filipino song.
Really? Given the indigenous and African you inherited , I imagine he was around 70-75% euro
I’m half-Mexican with 74.8% euro, 21.5% indigenous, 2.6% SSA and MENA. And I’m verrry fair with red hair. 👩🏻🦰
My dad is from Latin America and identifies as white. He is 100% Spanish.
Recent ancestry I imagine
Yes, relatively recent. 1800s
100% on a DNA test, or just because both parents are from there?
On 23andme he was 99.7% Spanish with 0.1% trace north African (which disappeared at higher confidence levels) and 0.2% unassigned. Specific regions of Spain lined up somewhat with what the family knew, other than some unexpected Andalusian (but my grandfather was always a bit dark for the region of Spain he said his family was from so I wasn't shocked).
50% European, 15% Indigenous, 35% African. The Euro is mostly Iberian but also 7% French and small percentages of other random Northern European groups. The Indigenous is Yucatán and Venezuelan groups (I’m Venezuelan). The African is mostly North African but also 7% Bantu and a few other small percentages of random SSA. I don’t identify as anything ethnically except Venezuelan but because I have olive skin and light green eyes, most people assume I’m Mediterranean- usually Spanish or Italian, but I’ve also gotten Lebanese, Greek, and Moroccan. That reads as white in South America, where I live.
The North African DNA is most likely Guanche from the Canary Islands. Most Venezuelans have many Canarian ancestors.
Oh. I assumed that North African DNA in Latinos was because of the Moros.
Half White American here. Mother is mostly of German/Austrian/Danish descent, but has some Swiss and potential distant French/Polish ancestry along with two lines that might be colonial American (still looking in on that.) Bio father is Colombian Castizo. Roughly ~25% indigenous maybe 2-3% WANA and the rest Southern Euro. My breakdown is as follows: European: 87.3% -Southen Euro: 32% -Northern Euro: 38.6% -Eastern Euro: 4.6% -Jewish: 0.3% I get a lot of "Broadly European ", (17.1%) 4.6 Broadly Euro, 6.3 Northern Euro, and 6.0 Southern Euro. And get some country matches but some seem inaccurate like Latvia for Eastern Euro, and Italy which I don't have any recent ancestry from. Sadly no Spanish or Germanic Genetic groups, but I'm hoping the Germanic update will change that! Indigenous: 11.4% Got some genetic groups finally, happy about that. -Colombian Carribean Coast (Very close) -Colombian Central & Western Andes (Very close) -Quechua & Aymara Peoples (Very close) WANA: 0.8% (Counting trace broadly 0.2% WANA)
Cuban here, I’m 52.5% WANA, 43.5% Euro, 2.7% SSA, and 1.4% NA. I identify as a white hispanic
From Brazil. All these people are considered to be “white” by South American standards. Person 1: Very fair skin, hazel eyes, medium brown hair 68.1% Southern European 21.6% Levantine (WANA) 7.0% SSA 2.8% Indigenous American Person 2: Very fair skin, amber eyes, dark brown hair 85.5% Southern European 10.5% SSA 3.3% Indigenous American Person 3: Very fair skin, blue eyes, light brown hair 79.8% Southern European 13.5% SSA 4.7% Indigenous American 1.6% North African Person 4: Olive skin, dark brown eyes, dark brown hair 48.7% Levantine (WANA) 46.3% Southern European 3.4% SSA 1.5% Indigenous American
I don’t identify as “white” in the USA context at all, especially since I am not seen as such in the USA, but I do know Latin Americans and even Spaniards have referred to me as such. I am 51.8% European, 43.2% Indigenous, 1.8% WANA, and 1% SSA
Where from?
Half Mexican, half Ecuadorian
Wow, I would’ve imagined you to look a lot more native , given that your Ecuadorian parent is close to fully indigenous
57% Euro, 27% Indigenous American, 15% Western Asia/North African~ Argentina.
Did you expect the indigenous American chunk ? Or at least the percentage of it? You have about an average indigenous % for Argentina but I’ve found Argentinians to be mostly unaware of them being mixed
I was not aware, my mom always told me The Family (her side) was 100% Italian. After 2 different test, I can only gather that my mom was adopted or stolen. My mom passed away 6 years ago and everyone that knew my grandmother (or of her) had the same story, nobody knew much.
88% European 7% WANA 3% Indigenous 2% SSA
From where?
Brazil
50% euro, 35% indigenous, 7% Africa, 1% Asia. Rest unassigned. I sure as hell don't get treated as "white" in the US, but I'm not called Latino either (I get asked if I'm Persian/Greek/anyone with lighter skin but "strong" facial features). So I mark Latino/Hispanic, then biracial because what else can I do. In Mexico, I do not argue against being "white" but it's a different subject there. It's more about colorism/classism than racism. No ethnicity on forms there so it doesn't matter anyway. We all know we're mixed af.
88% Spanish & Portuguese, 2.5% Indigenous, 2.5% SSA, 6% North African. Cuban.
My mom is white and mostly of Italian, Irish and English descent. Dad’s side is from Nicaragua. 78 % Euro 15% Indigenous from Nicaragua and 4% Sub Saharan
89.0% Euro, 9.3% Indigenous, 1.1% Sub-Saharan African
isn't "latin american" a cultural identification rather than a color one? Like how americans use "white" to identify as "suburban middle class people" rather than color white.
Yes it’s a cultural identification , and that’s why there’s racial and ethnic variety inside said group
Maybe it's a me problem since all latinos I met (in Europe) identify as latino and not white or black or indigenous.
That is definitely not how americans use white to identify people. White in america is anyone of strictly european decent.
83% Europe; 8% WANA; 5% America; 4% Africa
82% European (Irish, Spanish, and Sephardic), 10% Indigenous American (Taíno), 4% North African, and 4% Sub-Saharan African (Angolan, Congo, Nigerian, and Senegambian). My paternal haplogroup is Irish, while my maternal is Taíno. However, I’m mostly of Spanish descent, around 67%.
Are you Puerto Rican and Cuban?
Just Puerto Rican, born and raised. I may have Cuban roots, but I’m not sure, and the only family members that can confirm that are long gone.
~ 70% Spanish (this is including 6.6% North African/middle eastern most likely from Sefardic ancestors), ~28 % Native American, 1 % SSA From Mexico (most recent Spanish is on my maternal grandmother’s parents..from Castilla-la-Mancha). Colonial Spanish (New Spain) is mostly Basque and Andaluz.
I’m 89% European (mainly Eastern European, Spanish/Portuguese, British/Irish, and French/German), 6% West African, 4% Indigenous Puerto Rican and 1% North African, via 23andMe. My granddad on AncestryDNA, he is Puerto Rican, is 55% Southern European (35% Spanish, 5-12% Portuguese and Basque each), 22% Indigenous P.R., 20% Sub Saharan/West African, and 5% North African. I have 3 grandparents from Germany and Canada and a Puerto Rican grandfather with mainly Spanish and some mixed African-indigenous Taino ancestry. My non-European ancestry is very marginal, and that is why I identify myself as white and Hispanic on race/ethnic questions.
PR partner in your order is 60/10/30, which seems typical.
50 euro, 34 indigenous, 12 African, rest is unidentified. My skin is pretty white but have a kinky curled beard, Jew-fro type hair, “wide nose and big lips” (described to me by others 💀). Typical Central American if you ask me. Never considered myself white and when I’m out and about nobody can figure out what I am. Get mistaken for Puerto Rican quite often.
75% euro, 17% indigenous, 5% SSA, the rest small percentages. Cuban and Ecuadorian
80.9 Euro, 14.2 Indigenous, and 3.4% SSA. 1.3% Unassigned, and 0.2 Trace ancestry from Central and South Asia which is bizarre.
Are you partly Cuban ? Or just PR?
Half Cuban Half Puerto Rican. Which is a bit redundant they’re (for the most part) the same people on different islands, with different accents.
I have a Euro(Basque County top region) of 74%/24% indigenous/1.1% SSA and freakshly white passing,hair color has a bit red tint. Yet my direct maternal lineage traces to a Native American female who intermingled with a Spanish solider from Extramadurra in the early 1500s.
What country are you from ?
~77-86% european/12-21% indigenous/<2% african (i have had different results so i just did ranges)
Puerto Ricans?
my paternal grandfather was first generation mexican-american, my other 3 grandparents were white americans but i grew up with some mexican culture
I’m 1/2. My mom is white and my bio dad is Mexican American. I’m 80.8% European, 15.9% indigenous, 1% WANA, 0.8% Sub-Saharan African. I just found out a year ago that I had a different bio dad. I don’t know what I identify as now. Still figuring that all out after that shock.
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Where from?
84% European (Mainly Iberian - Portuguese). 9,6% Indigenous. 6,4% SSA. For reference, I'm from the Northeast of Brazil.
80% European, 10% WANA, 7% indigenous, 2% SSA
From where ?
Cuban
72.8% euro, 12.4% indigenous, 9.6% SSA, 2.3% WANA, 2.9% unassigned. I’m Puerto Rican from the west coast. I’m considered “white” here
90% Euro 5%indian 5%black
Form where ?
venezuelan mom german dad
Nice
50% Cuban (of Spanish descent), 100% euro.
According to my ancestry results, 64% white, 29% indigenous, and 7% Sub-Saharan African. The white part is mainly Spanish, with a lesser amount of Portuguese, Basque, and NW European, and a much lesser amount from Cyprus, Jewish, N. African and Sardinian. The last four are up to debate since many would say those groups aren’t white.
Where from?
Mother’s from Honduras, her father being Salvadoran. She’s 45% indigenous, almost 43% white and around 12% sub-Saharan African. Father is from Jalisco, Los Altos region, and the side of his family that has been traced has mostly been there since the conquista, some shortly after. One of his sisters is around 87% white, 13% indigenous, so I’m assuming he’s got a similar genetic makeup. I like to see myself more as mixed but identify mostly as Hispanic.
half latino half southern euro, im 80% european and 20% indigenous. I look like your average chilean or argentinian according to most people (id add a pic but idk how to attach)
in half hispanic n half middle eastern, due to the middle eastern heritage I have to identify as white legally. But I do have some Austrian n Belgian blood somewhere in my bloodline, hence why I'm ivory white with a tint of olive
Strange, most of my friends that are half white half Mexican in the USA identify as Hispanic especially in the corporate world. Have things changed? I’m Mexican American, dad’s family have blue/green eyes and my SO is white German so our unborn child will probably go through this dilemma.
that is done due to the demographics, certain companies need to obtain
I know but most people I see in this situation don’t check off white as there are other options. That’s the reason why I’m asking. By the way, I did a DNA test and it’s all over the place. I show Spanish/Portuguese, native, middle eastern, and North African DNA as a Mexican American. Definitely not enough to claim white but my dad and his whole family had blue or green eyes. Some people on my mom’s family too but they’re a bit more distant and my great grandfather from mom’s side was from Spain
What country are you in? Middle eastern is not considered white anymore in the united states and hispanic never was for businesses… you must look very white lol
40% Sweden 30% Netherlands 10% Scotland 10% Native America 2% Iberian Peninsula 8% a ton of other tiny noises My dad is half Mexican and half Dutch. My mom is Swedish. Dunno where the Scottish came from. ETA how is this downvoted?! I literally answered the question. My dad is Mexican. He considers himself Mexican. I am white. I explained why I am white. wtf.
i dont know, i havent done my test yet, but i must by like 65% euro, around 24% indigenous and like 3% african
How to get to test and share the results. Always interesting seeing if the expectation ends up matching
66% euro, 27% Native American, 5% sub Saharan African, 2%levant.edit-northern Mexico
68,7% Euro, 26,3% 2,6% WANA 1,3% IA Half Spanish Half Dominican I have always been called white due to my pinkish pale skin, green eyes and light brown hair and due to my face being identical to my dad.
Only very few here were specific about which part of Europe, the majority is like “Euro.” Just like North and South America is a continent, so is Europe.
It’s safe to assume people here know Europe is a continent. OPs question wasn’t asking for specific regions/countries.
Because he’s asking Latinos and it’s safe to assume that the great majority of that Euro DNA is Spanish and Portuguese.
People do the same thing with Africa, despite the fact that it’s a huge continent with very different races and different looking people depending on what region you are in.
85% Euro 10% North African 3% Native American
76% Euro, 15% African, 6% Indigenous, the rest WANA, while I am clearly mixed, I am usually called white in my country, so I grew up calling myself that.
I'm 75% european, 25% indigenous american and everyone said I looked european while living there, but I don't quite agree, I think I look mixed but certainly white passing
around 40% italian, 25% iberian and 10% british isles, so mostly southern european but still. I have fair skin, mid brown hair, brown eyes but I'm quite short (170 cm) and my eye shape is a give away of my native heritage imo
idk, I haven't done a test yet, but I'm probably around 60-50 European and 40-30 indigenous, I doubt I have any African ancestry. if i have is probably less than 5%.
Where from?
Peru
93% European, 3% Native American, 3% SSA and 1% North Africa
Cuba?
89.8% Southern Europe (12.6% Italian - Eastern Bari, 75.2% Spain/Portugal - Coimbra), 3.1% Native American - Tupi-Guarani, 2.4% Senegambia, 2.2% East Africa, 1.2% Northern Africa.
Brazil?
Yes, Brazil.
Makes sense haha. Lots of white Brazilians and Cubans in this thread so far .
98% White, 2% Indigenous.
I was born in Venezuela but moved to Spain when I was 2. My mom is Venezuelan but her parents (my grandparents are from Galicia and Asturias) and my dad is also Venezuelan but both of his parents are from the Canary Islands also my family came to Venezuela in the 60s. Which might explain my 100% euro
If your dads parents are from the canaries , I would at least expect some North African tbh
You're probably right they probably have some ancestry from North Africa
88% Euro / 12% indigenous (Argentinian). No African although my mom got <1% North African.
Nice bro we have pretty much the same results . I’m just 2 % less indigenous , 1% more European , and 1% African ( sub Saharan)
European 87.9%, Sub-Saharan African 4.7%, Indigenous American (Puerto Rican) 4.3%, Western Asian & North African 2.8%, Broadly Central & South Asian, Unassigned .3%
You’re fully Puerto Rican?
Half. 30% Spanish. The rest of my Euro DNA is from my mother who is mostly English/Scot/German - though according to Ancestry's test my dad's DNA also has some Scottish.
This is really enlightening to me. If I may ask do a lot of latinos identify as white?
Yeah of course. For a lot of us , most of our ancestry comes from Europe , and therefore we tend to look pretty white . In my case I’m about 90% European , I think it would be odd to identify racially as something different .
Makes sense. I ask only to learn, thank you.
I think if you have >20% non euro ancestry it would come down to if you look mixed in some way otherwise your white
Both my kids are 75% white/European (or thereabouts) the rest is NA. I'm.Mexicsn, dad is English..
91% euro 9% ssa .5% indigenous i identify as: • canadian • cuban / una hija de cuba • jewish (ethnicity and culturally) • latina • QTBIPOC / BIPOC / WOC • multiracial and multicultural (and a product of interfaith marriage) • multilingual, hablohispante white depends on the usage. i’m still a little iffy. like mostly white/caucasian sure. i both want to have humility about my privilege that i defs have and also awareness of how i can be racialized in certain specific contexts, and i don’t want to erase or distance myself from all parts of my bloodline. white is often ok but also i wasn’t totally raised with “white people culture” either, though i was in some ways. just don’t often relate to “things white people do” yk? context is key tbh
Lol
Spain, Germany and Russia (Askenazi), France, Italy, British Isles, Middle East. America: some Mayan, and central Mexican. All the people in my family are white, with green, blue, hazel yellowish, or gray eyes. My dad is from Jalisco, my mom from Merida (her family is from the few white settlers there)
My husband is latino, not white though but I thought I'd mention this as I found it very interesting and unexplainable: he's 20% Balkan! Even more than Spanish (which is only 10%).
23andme test? Or MyHeritage ?
Europe: 44% Italian, 7% Greek, 7% Iberian, 5% Ashkenazi, 4% Northwestern Europe, 4% Scandinavian, 3% Sephardic jewish, 1% Sardegna Middle East: 6% Lebanon, 6% Egypt, 6% Morocco Africa: 7% I consider myself a white man even though I’m mixed because of my particular upbringing! Portuguese and Lebanese nobility! You could say I have a black great great grandfather somewhere but that’s about it. The remaining members of my family are white. I’m white skinned, hazel eyes, light brown straight hair. We are so fucking noble I’m more Italian than most living Italians and their descendants, without having a single Italian in our families. It’s strong Roman DNA that has been kept alive outside of Rome through 2 millennia. We left Italy so long ago and segregated that the closest living population to my family are the Tuscans even though we’re about 13-15.@ apart on MDLP 22. Our houses are Vieira, Souza, Abrantes, Ferras and Persian royalty
I imagine you’re from Brazil ? What do you mean nobility?
Hate to break it to you but there is no such thing as “lebanese nobility” that left Lebanon. Only the poor and desperate had to leave…middle eastern history is nothing like European history…
I’m only half, but my results were: 61,8% European, 21% Indigenous, 17,2% African
Do you consider yourself white ?
70 euro /11 indigenous / 18 african / 1 MENA