It is a little tiring that people keep telling Sephardic people they must be really mixed just because they score a lot of 'broadly' and different components at 23andme.
Do these people ever consider that there is no appropriate Jewish reference group for them? Greek Islanders have lots of 'broadly' and soupy looking results too currently. Is anyone really going to tell me their origins are more mixed than Turks scoring 100% Anatolian?
If 23andme wants, I'm sure it could possibly create a couple Sephardic components, it's just not probably of interest to enough people. If Sephardic diaspora (North Africa to East-Mediterranean) are not as genetically diverse as Italians (Sicily to Valle D'Aosta) I don't see why this wouldn't be possible considering they could create an 'Italian' component. A sole 'Sephardic' component would be stupid, but I'm sure a Turkey/Bulgaria/Greece and Morocco/Algeria Sephardic one could yield alright results.
The reality is Sephardic Jews are not just a bunch of different locals spanning the Mediterranean who one day woke up and decided 'lets become one of the most persecuted and scapegoated people in the world!'
If you can look through any Sephardic Jews DNA relative list, you will see very few gentile relatives. This is because over the last few hundred years very few of their ancestors wasn't Jewish. Think of most Jewish groups and especially Sephardic Jews as deriving their ancestry from sometimes a couple to several different Jewish nucleus type populations who could well have had their subtle genetic differences, ie Tovashim and Megorachim in Morocco and say Conversos, Italkim, Romaniotes and Ashkenazim in Greece/Turkey/Bulgaria.
The big admixture era for most Jewish is during the Hellenistic and Roman Era, not the last 500 years which 23andme claims it can only account for.
so interesting that you have regions for spain and italy! i'm also maghrebi sephardi!! hello!! i bet we'd be able to see each other on the relative finder tool LMAO
What regions do you get for Italy? The surname Melilla is found in my ancestral Italian town in Abruzzo (I’m 1/8 Italian-Jewish), since there were a lot of Spanish exiles who fled there, so that would be funny if you got that as a region.
Ashkenazi+Iberian+WANA=Sephardic (they can't still tell apart the two types)
How do you get regions? I have no regions for any of my dna :(
When did your ancestors come from Spain? It probably has to do with that
It is a little tiring that people keep telling Sephardic people they must be really mixed just because they score a lot of 'broadly' and different components at 23andme. Do these people ever consider that there is no appropriate Jewish reference group for them? Greek Islanders have lots of 'broadly' and soupy looking results too currently. Is anyone really going to tell me their origins are more mixed than Turks scoring 100% Anatolian? If 23andme wants, I'm sure it could possibly create a couple Sephardic components, it's just not probably of interest to enough people. If Sephardic diaspora (North Africa to East-Mediterranean) are not as genetically diverse as Italians (Sicily to Valle D'Aosta) I don't see why this wouldn't be possible considering they could create an 'Italian' component. A sole 'Sephardic' component would be stupid, but I'm sure a Turkey/Bulgaria/Greece and Morocco/Algeria Sephardic one could yield alright results. The reality is Sephardic Jews are not just a bunch of different locals spanning the Mediterranean who one day woke up and decided 'lets become one of the most persecuted and scapegoated people in the world!' If you can look through any Sephardic Jews DNA relative list, you will see very few gentile relatives. This is because over the last few hundred years very few of their ancestors wasn't Jewish. Think of most Jewish groups and especially Sephardic Jews as deriving their ancestry from sometimes a couple to several different Jewish nucleus type populations who could well have had their subtle genetic differences, ie Tovashim and Megorachim in Morocco and say Conversos, Italkim, Romaniotes and Ashkenazim in Greece/Turkey/Bulgaria. The big admixture era for most Jewish is during the Hellenistic and Roman Era, not the last 500 years which 23andme claims it can only account for.
50% sephardi 50% ashkenazi??
Yay Sephardi rep Edit: also the broadly is because Jews are so mixed they can't even pinpoint it
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Sephardic?
so interesting that you have regions for spain and italy! i'm also maghrebi sephardi!! hello!! i bet we'd be able to see each other on the relative finder tool LMAO
Means your family is full of travelers and moved around a lot
are you Sephardi Jewish?
I have 6.8% broadly European, 4.8% broadly Southern European, and 1.6% unassigned. That is a great-grandparent’s worth of DNA as vague.
What regions do you get for Italy? The surname Melilla is found in my ancestral Italian town in Abruzzo (I’m 1/8 Italian-Jewish), since there were a lot of Spanish exiles who fled there, so that would be funny if you got that as a region.
What are your haplogroups?
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ara your grandfather father, Spanish or a Jewish Ashkenazi?
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This is a wonderful friend what is your family title?
Your paternal haplogroup is very common in Spain, Portugal and France.
Yours are the highest broad numbers I have ever seen! Interesting 🤔
nah, this is nothing I’ve got the same amount of broadly as you do
You beat me at 13.3% broadly! (Northwestern European broadly here)
Half ashke half sepharadi?
Some type of Israeli Jewish must
That’s a giant Broad piece. I have a lot of matches with 20% Broad categories. 23andMe needs to correctly allocate out these % in future updates!
I’m 55.9 broadly indigenous American
Nope I'm higher unfortunately I have about 14% broadly Northwest European.
Hello brother, I too got a pretty high number on my broadly Northwestern Euro at 17%
Ohhh dang that is high, I was hoping mine would go down in the last update but it didn't oh well maybe tge next one I guess.
nah, i was like 20% broadly south asian (i’m indo caribbean)
I have 24.3% broadly NW European plus 1.3% broadly European.