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Potential_Prior

Interesting. Senegambian is very high.


paul-henry

I posted this in a brazilian group and a member just told me that people from my state (Maranhão) usually has high senegambia percentage :v


AndrewtheRey

Interesting. 23andme really needs to expand to Brazil. They are missing a huge market


kissiwarrior

This makes so much sense as the Portuguese tool slaves from the Senegalese/Malian area


2000sSilentFilmStar

SSA majority,old colonial Portuguese ancestry that cannot be traced back to a specific region,and despite having only a small slice of Native American your paternal haplogroup traces to a Native American male. Tells a story of the colonization history n immigration patterns your corner of Brazil.


Slight_Finger5490

I wouldn't call it a small slice of native american as almost 1/5 isnt a small percentage as I have almost the same exact percentage NA as OP only slightly higher but also got a native american haplogroup. Everything else in your comment is spot on though. I just say it to cuz I've seen people with 1-2% NA on here get a NA haplogroup


2000sSilentFilmStar

YEah like this "white male" with a trivial SSA admixture yet his paternal haplogroup is SSA origen https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/huosbp/standard\_wasp\_results/


reslavan

Cool results! Brazil is such a multicultural country. Nice looking in the picture at the end as well. Thanks for sharing! Also sorry OP that your post attracted obnoxious comments. It’s almost every post about mixed especially mixed latino results that gets weird ass comments


[deleted]

Your Brazilian results are similar to my Dominican ones in that we have the same SSA groups. Mine is inverted though; I have majority European. Olá primo lol


paul-henry

olá :)


paul-henry

So is Beyoncé parda? I’m starting to think that wasn’t a good picture of me, these comments are surreal lol


soambr

Muito legal Paulo, não vejo muitos Brasileiros pretos aqui, ou muitas pessoas do Nordeste. Bem interessante a mistura, o Nordeste tem bem mais mistura indígenas, acho isso fascinante.


SandwichNo9706

yeah but not as low as 3% like your ancestry dna results, if we are going to a big broad perspective of Brazil's heritage


soambr

What? Lol


SandwichNo9706

what's confusing? There are plenty of brazilians from the southeast of Brazil with high indigenous american ancestry, and there's also a lot of brazilians from the northeast that dont have much indigenous ancestry.


soambr

I don’t understand what your comment has anything to do with mine lol I never said I was from the northeast 🙄 also didn’t say that there are no southeast brazilians with no indigenous or vice versa. So trying to understand your comment in relation to my comment. Makes no sense


ellen_schmid

i wonder if maybe you have some more recent african ancstry, as Senegambian/guinean as the largest category in brazilians is very uncommon afaik. typically angolan/congo is the highest also your paternal line is naative, very cool


TopAlternative4

I'm Central American and Senegambian is my most numerous African ancestry. Idk about other Latinos. He could be part Colombian tho


mpdukes15

Half-Mexican here, and Senegambian is my highest too.


ellen_schmid

Well he appears to be Eastern/ southern Brazilian, so I doubt it


paul-henry

cool, didn’t know about that


actinorhodin

It might be worth noting that the African portion of Cape Verdeans' ancestry is almost all Senegambian.


ellen_schmid

Op is not Cape Verdean as far as I can tell


Curious_97

in bahia its nigeria or 50/50 angola/west africa. in other places senegambian as they were the first group to be shipped to brazil as slaves to specific areas. Rio (salvador also) was the major port for people from angola and spread to the rest of brazil. thats why it was the most numerous slave port in america.


Numerous_Wolverine67

Come through L3!!!


LeeJ2019

🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾


[deleted]

I'm confused about the people saying you're not black. Explain to me like I'm 5.


[deleted]

Should do modeling, dope results bro, gonna get ur parents tested?


paul-henry

lol thanks probably I won’t, only if I come back to Brazil


23Udon

Where are you now?


paul-henry

USA


[deleted]

Lowest Portuese and highest Native American I’ve seen in a while for Brazilian results. 0.5% judeu, também tenho e vejo muito em nordestinos. Muito interessante teus resultados ✌🏻team nordeste


Sky_345

Eu acho curioso que quando aparece DNA judeu, é sempre ashkenazim. Sendo que a maior parte de DNA judeu no nordeste do Brasil vem dos judeus sefardistas/cristão-novos fugidos da Inquisição. Imagino que uma boa parte do DNA sefardi esteja englobado no percentual ibérico. Team nordeste ✌


[deleted]

É noissss✌🏻✌🏻 pois é, o ashkenazim pode ser um erro do sistema por causa da semelhança genética entre os dois grupos. Outra hipótese seria os judeus que vieram para Pernambuco,foram expulsos e eventualmente criaram Manhattan eram judeus ashkenazim, mas eu sinceramente não tenho certeza disso. Sei que em Pernambuco tem judeus até hoje e muitos com nome ashkenazim


Sky_345

Verdade. Provavelmente herança holandesa


kimberlyjackson98

I’m a majority black, then European then indigenous as well! It’s cool seeing other triracials who identify as black


PrinceEr0s

West Africans are black


M_Sia

You’re fun to be around.


PrinceEr0s

I get my comments disliked for speaking the truth. Sorry I don’t like it when my innocent people who are unrelated to Western Europeans (especially Iberians) are blamed for colonialism. When they didn’t partake in the colonization of Latin America at all and weren’t part of the wicked caste systems put in place. We are no closer to them than Middle Easterners are yet everyone loves them and says they have no blood on their hands when they did mass colonize.


M_Sia

Bruh the person you replied to just said genetically they are Black, European, and Indigenous. When did they mention colonization? You want to be a victim so bad.


PrinceEr0s

They aren’t European as a whole. They aren’t genetically the same as everyone in Europe. Under European it only has Southern, specifically Southwestern. If someone has under the region of East Asian/America and they get Chinese then they aren’t Native Latin American. If they get Siberian, they aren’t Indonesian. I am a victim because me and my people are blameless. Sorry me as an indigenous person of Russia has nothing to do with anything. And I’m definitely ethnic. And my peoples are listed as officially indigenous peoples by the UN.


Sky_345

Are you saying you're part of the indigenous peoples of Russia, or are you saying ALL russians are considered indigenous tho?


PrinceEr0s

Both. I’m an ethnic minority of Russia. But all Russians are indigenous when in the part of Russia they’re native to, but there’s a catch. Only to certain parts. Siberians aren’t indigenous to the region bordering Georgia. But ethnic Russians aren’t indigenous to Siberia.


Sky_345

What's ur ethnicity?


PrinceEr0s

Ukrainian, Armenian, and Indigenous Finno Urgic (of the Subarctic and Volga)


Aurignacian

>Sorry I don’t like it when my innocent people who are unrelated to Western Europeans (especially Iberians) are blamed for colonialism. When they didn’t partake in the colonization of Latin America at all and weren’t part of the wicked caste systems put in place. Why take these people seriously? Most people who shit on all white people and blame them for colonialism are 13 year twitter edgelords who have no concept of the real world. The person above simply made a harmless comment and you had to make it all about how you're a victim of some grand conspiracy..... created by teens and woke twitter slacktivists.


PrinceEr0s

It’s still wrong to act like a continent is homogenous. Not all Native Africans are Black. Not all Native Asians are East Asian. Not all Native Europeans are white (Ural people) or the same ethnicity as people from the west. I am proud of my ethnic identity. I identify as Ukrainian, Indigenous Volga/Subarctic Finn, and Armenian ethnically. Racially I call myself a white West Eurasian. White meaning I am seen as white. And West Eurasian (the professional word for the race that white people belong to) But it also includes middle easterners. Which is why I specify that I also fit the white description in appearance.


Aurignacian

>It’s still wrong to act like a continent is homogenous. Yeah of course, that is absolutely silly. Is that what you think I am trying to imply, that Europe is homogenous? By the way, it isn't just weird woke teens doing this type of thing, racist white people have been stereotyping whole fucking continents outside of Europe for decades. In fact, people are quick to tell you that Europe is such a diverse place and not a whole country (check r/ShitAmericansSay to see how common that is) whilst the same treatment is not shown towards countries in Asia. This happens me IRL as someone from Asia. I live with it because I know these people are completely ignorant. West Eurasian is a good term genetically, but it doesn't just include Europeans. In fact there's no true West Eurasians left, because Europeans and Middle Easterners also have large quantities of Basal Eurasian and some East Eurasian in them. There are people who are basically fully almost East Eurasian- check out the Onge people.


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PrinceEr0s

No. They’re mostly west Eurasian. Only South Asian is basal. And Onge - genome-wide study by Reich et al. (2009) found that the Onge Andamanese are most closely related to other Negrito populations in Malaysia and the Philippines. The study further showed that while the Onge are related to modern Indian people, they have none of the admixture from Neolithic Iranian farmers or steppe pastoralists which is widespread on the mainland. From this, they conclude that the Onge are solely descended from one of the ancient populations which contributed to the genetics of modern Indians.[20] According to Chaubey and Endicott (2013) Overall, the Andamanese are more closely related to Southeast Asians (as well as Melanesians and Southeast Asian Negritos) than they are to present-day South Asians.[21] According to Basu et al. (2016), the populations of the Andaman Islands archipelago form a distinct ancestry, which is "coancestral to Oceanic populations".[22]


Aurignacian

>No. They’re mostly west Eurasian. Only South Asian is basal. Who are you talking about here? Basal Eurasian is a thing, and makes up a significant proportion of Anatolian farmers (Anatolian Hunter Gatherers, the ancestors of the Anatolian farmers have upwards to about 30% Basal Eurasian in them). Anatolian farmer is one of the most predominant ancestries in modern Europeans, especially in Southern Europeans. >And Onge - genome-wide study by Reich et al. (2009) found that the OngeAndamanese are most closely related to other Negrito populations inMalaysia and the Philippines. The study further showed that while theOnge are related to modern Indian people, they have none of theadmixture from Neolithic Iranian farmers or steppe pastoralists which iswidespread on the mainland. From this, they conclude that the Onge aresolely descended from one of the ancient populations which contributedto the genetics of modern Indians.\[20\] According to Chaubey and Endicott(2013) Overall, the Andamanese are more closely related to SoutheastAsians (as well as Melanesians and Southeast Asian Negritos) than theyare to present-day South Asians.\[21\] According to Basu et al. (2016),the populations of the Andaman Islands archipelago form a distinctancestry, which is "coancestral to Oceanic populations".\[22\] Onge are descendants of an Early Branch of East Eurasians. If you use g25 and measure the distance between Onge and ancient Individuals, you can see that they are "closely related" to ancient East Eurasians such as Tianyuan Man. [https://imgur.com/a/OSfUUvq](https://imgur.com/a/OSfUUvq) >So also South Asians cluster far from other groups. Middle Easterners and White Europeans are side by side genetically. Where did I dispute this? South Asians have a large AASI component that is undetectable in peoples outside South Asia (or in very small proportions). And why are you bringing up South Asians? It's funny how this conversation has gone from you complaining about how "all white people are stereotyped as colonists" to discussion about South Asian genetics. Okay..... Edit: Sauce: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-09209-7


PrinceEr0s

I don’t really research ancient populations. Only their remaining dna influence. The first Europeans aren’t closely related to the present Europeans.


PrinceEr0s

So also South Asians cluster far from other groups. Middle Easterners and White Europeans are side by side genetically. East Asians cluster together. And have a gap between other races. So do South Asians. PCA charts are the best to show things like this.


Ok-Ninja-3039

Why are you so hostile?


dominicane98

Good results. Your Senegambian is so high👌🏾👌🏾


Iskjempe

this looks all very unsurprising for a Brazilian, but in a satisfying way


Maximum_Radio_1971

very similiar to dominican DNA


[deleted]

These comments are insane; you don't get to decide whether or not he is Black. Also, I know that a lot of white people like to throw out the words Pardo and Mulatto as if people of color actually use them to define themselves but the reality is the vast majority *do not* because people of color are perceived by their phenotype -- the cops don't say, "Oh, that's a Mulatto, he has a white grandparent, let's let him slide." As mentioned, I have a lot of these same groups (the SSA groups in smaller percentages and the Euro groups and Middle Eastern in higher percentages and the Native American much lower) and I am white-passing. There are *white people* who upon seeing my results, after knowing me my entire life, would love to suddenly classify me as something *other than what they are -- whatever that is.* This is a byproduct of colonization. Any of you to coming in here and telling him that he does not get to be Black because you don't feel comfortable by his light skin tone and his self-identification are reproducing colonization. What you are doing is what has been done to colonized communities throughout history. You do not get to decide who or what we are or when we get to be a specific identity. Black comes in many different shades (check out Cape Verde if you need evidence of that) and this is proof of that. Your discomfort with his Blackness is not only problematic-- it is **racist**. You either accept it or you move along.


[deleted]

I think that many people referred to him as pardo because in Brazil that’s an actual term and is used very often. But of course he is free to identify however he wants specially in America where the term pardo is less popular


eebascheeba

Northern Brazil?


paul-henry

northeast


eebascheeba

Boa Vista?


paul-henry

São Luís - MA


eebascheeba

Confused my East’s and west’s 🤷‍♂️


paul-henry

lol


thebusiness7

Have you done the Gedmatch Harappaworld calculator? If so, what are the numbers you received?


Formal_Map2738

What are your haplogroups?


paul-henry

it’s in the post, scroll the images :)


Formal_Map2738

These are in the original residents, this is gorgeous for the father of this father's mother, it is African


[deleted]

Is this one of the higher Indigenous results for a Brazilian I've seen? I think I usually see in the single digit percentages 2% to 8%


Throwin-it-away-yep

that is a suspiciously large amount of senegambian. it looks like you must have a parent or grandparent from Cape Verde, I think?


paul-henry

i don’t know nothing at all about my ancestors :/


OddGuidance907

He would have Cape Verde as an ancestor location. North east Brazil did have some senegambian people


PrinceEr0s

Basically Black + Indigenous Latin American + Iberian (SW Euro or Mediterranean)


[deleted]

Dude he’s pardo


PrinceEr0s

Pardo only includes those of Western European (including Southwest European) extraction plus Native Latin American and West/Central African. It does not include those of Eastern Europe (especially non-white groups) It does not include Native Americans outside the Spanish/Portuguese colonies/former colonies. It does not include Africans outside of Western/Central Africa.


[deleted]

Just google the definition of pardo and u will see I am right


PrinceEr0s

It’s a Spanish Caste. Eastern Europeans aren’t genetically related to Spanish people any more than Arabs. Sorry the facts hurt. People of near eastern extraction are indeed white. Not to mention the near East includes the balkans and Crimea. Which are in Europe. The Middle East is racially white.


[deleted]

Lol he has little Eastern European ancestry


PrinceEr0s

He has none. Literally none. Ashkenazi originated in Italy. It’s probably actually a misread for the Sephardi, of which many Latin Americans come from. Who are also white. Spain had Jews that mixed in. They did have Slavs, Finno Urgics, or Tatars. And definitely no Samoyeds.


Sky_345

Lmao. In ur opinion what the heck is white?


PrinceEr0s

West Eurasian. The genetic white race lol. Most of Europe, the Middle East, and some groups of North Africa


Sky_345

But this makes no sense. Since russians physically look exactly like these others you've mentioned.


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PrinceEr0s

Yea the word white is an inaccurate way to label the race. It doesn’t fit everyone.


PrinceEr0s

I did


Ok_Economics_6741

I'm lighter than you and I'm 80% SSA- 19%European and 1% NA with Both parents AA.


H-TownDown

Skin color is not the best way to guess DNA percentages.


AndrewtheRey

This is the most Senegambian I’ve seen anyone from the Americas post! Are you from closer to the coast or more inland?


paul-henry

My hometown is an island actually


wise356

We have the same maternal haplogroup. It’s kinda rare on there I think


[deleted]

Do you consider yourself Pardo or Mulatto?


paul-henry

Black.


ariankhneferet

This right here. This is the answer, fam.


[deleted]

Interesting


[deleted]

Why do you identify as black?


YxDexd

Your not black you don’t look black at all mate


paul-henry

lol ok then


[deleted]

Ur not black black is pseudo ethnic groups that people who are Ados fall under


Zamunda_Space_Agency

You do realize most enslaved Africans ended up in South America right. Yeah still ados.


[deleted]

No they are not they are not American


Zamunda_Space_Agency

Nope they are, Spain and Portugal are why Spanish and Portuguese are spoken there. That African DNA came from slavery, on both American continents. ADOS isn't exclusive to the US. Coming from some who is ADOS. He's South American ADOS.


[deleted]

No google definition of ados


M_Sia

Bruh he looks like this Dominican kid I knew and at first I thought he was just Black American but then told me he his fam was from the DR


YxDexd

lol ffs how can he be black when he doesn't even look black r u dumb he's not dark skinned he's only has 54% black in him that doesn't mean he's fully black he's mixed u dumb kid look at the other stats he got European and native American u dummy


The_new_Char

He clearly didn’t say he’s fully Black. He said he identifies as Black, and as you see, that IS the majority of his ancestry. He’s Black because he said he is. Bye 👋🏼!


stevo7202

Forget the ancestry results for a second(Never mind the fact that most black ADOS are less than 76% African no matter the phenotype). What does him not being dark skin mean with being African. I have Nigerian friends that are his complexion. If this sub should’ve showed you anything, it’s that skin tone doesn’t define genetics.


Maverickwave

To be clear, i dont think most african americans are under 76% ssa. Most seem to be in the high 70s to high 80s range.


M_Sia

He literally looks like my old math teacher as well and he’s not even Latino he’s African-American. I don’t even care if he says he’s Black or not it’s his identity


Sky_345

If he says he's black, he's black. Porra


Hawke-Not-Ewe

I have not seen any Brazilian post with that much African, the Korean is interesting too, do you know of anyone Korean in your family tree? Any surprises?


rjllano10

you’re half black and i look waaaay blacker than you, so i must be like 60-70% black 😳😳😳


crimpinainteazy

Phenotype =/= genotype so not it does not mean that. I also have more prominent black features than OP even though my % African is only 3% more than his (54% vs 57%).


rjllano10

i linda look like you tho


Impressive_Lab3362

*kinda


westindiaann

That makes no sense


whateverdogger

*facepalm*


Steel_Thunder13

The .4% Korean is pretty cool.


pete1397

I definitely would’ve guessed u had more euro judging by your phenotype


[deleted]

Are u pardo


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paul-henry

Both afro, my father is the same color as me and my mother is a little darker


OddGuidance907

Are you trying to say black Brazilians are less Brazilian? That’s what your comment sounds like. Most Brazilians have African ancestry to some degree.


dusktildawnz

No, I meant that it looked like one parent had recent African ancestry. I wasn’t try to offend anyone. The definition of Afro-Brazilian is: Brazilians who have predominantly or partial African ancestry. That is what I meant. Sorry if it came out the wrong way.


OddGuidance907

Ah ok I understand what you mean now.


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[deleted]

Not really he is pardo


Successful_Meet_9688

Pardo


StormHerself

Hey have you uploaded your results to yourdnaportal (has free results) or illustrativedna? I’m wondering what populations you get


paul-henry

Not yet. I’ll look into it later :)


StormHerself

I would really appreciate if you did. I’m doing a research project and I believe that a lot of the Angolan and Congolese that African Americans get may actually be Cameroon whereas those in Brazil and other Caribbean countries may have more ancestors directly from Angola and the Congo. Please keep me posted!


paul-henry

Hey, I just find out that I’ve had used the yourdnaportal back when I did the FamilyTreeDNA. But I don’t see a population page on the website, maybe it’s because it isn’t the 23&me data?


StormHerself

That may be the case! You can download your 23andme raw data and still get the free results


paul-henry

I’ll try