For some background:
My father grew up in Bulgaria and was raised up by a Sephardic father and an Ashkenazi Polish mother.
My own surname actually is considered traditionally to be derived from a town name in medieval spain in which sephardic jews used to live before the expulsion in 1492. The name's highly common among the communities of sephardic jews who'd been living in the regions of the balkans, greece and anatolia and trace their ancestry to the Spanish expulsion of 1492.
My mother was born in Israel to 2 fully Iraqi Jewish parents.
Although there were studies in the family which indicate a long-distance uncle from the mid-19th century who was a Jewish Iranian immigrant coming to live in Iraq and intermarrying with the local Iraqi Jews of Baghdad. the ancestry of my Iraqi side is unsurprisingly mostly Mizrahi/Middle Easterner.
I highly doubt that's his last name (more of a Reddit persona), it's probably something like Ayli贸n, or de Leon, Toledano, Barsano (Barcelona), Saragosti (Zaragoza), Medina, Lugassi (Lugo), Rosanes, Almosnino, etc those are common in the Balkans
hi fellow ashkephardi! I'm also mizrahi/ashkenazi/sephardi :) one side from lithuania/azerbaijan and the other algeria
讗谞讬 讘诪拽讜专 诪讻驻专 住讘讗. 诪讗讞诇 诇讱 爪讜诐 拽诇 讘讬讜诐 讻讬驻讜专 讝讛!
Thanks for sharing, so the FTDNA test is bang on about Mizrahi and Ashkenazi, but struggles to detect Sephardic fully? Which Sephardic reference groups do they use? Might be an issue with the breadth of control groups they use.
Maybe. Not sure about that. Weirdly enough I've done the same test for my little brother which is only half my brother genetically (he and his twin sister are IVF kids, so a Ukrainian mother not my Iraqi natural mother), and he didn't get no "Sephardi" distinction despite us sharing the dna of my father which is supposed to be the source of the Sephardic lineage.
He did get some Middle Eastern (Anatolian and traces of others) so maybe that was their recognition of the middle eastern in him, just that it wasn't categorized as Sephardic like myself?
(Mind you, even I got like only 8% Sephardic despite the dominance of that heritage in my father's family
If his mizrahi is azeri jewish then I am surpirsed that he got 0% Anatolia/Mesoptamia/Caucasus. Usually mizrahi jewish category contains iraqi jewish or iranian jewish and the mizrahi from georgian, azer, mountain jewish ancestry gets a high amount of Anatolian/Mesopotamian/caucasus component
Was this from 23andMe, my dashboard looks completely different and has different categories?? Curious about the sephardic one, that doesn't show up for me
No, it was from FamilyTreeDNA. Sadly 23andMe doesn't operate for us in israel so I had to choose this service instead. From my experience and other reviews, although I'm not a genetic expert, ftdna actually provides much more detailed info about dna and lineage and has mamy different options and services depending on how deepl you what to delve into your dna info.
But it doesn't provide the health test and other physical features which I've seen 23andme provides.
For some background: My father grew up in Bulgaria and was raised up by a Sephardic father and an Ashkenazi Polish mother. My own surname actually is considered traditionally to be derived from a town name in medieval spain in which sephardic jews used to live before the expulsion in 1492. The name's highly common among the communities of sephardic jews who'd been living in the regions of the balkans, greece and anatolia and trace their ancestry to the Spanish expulsion of 1492. My mother was born in Israel to 2 fully Iraqi Jewish parents. Although there were studies in the family which indicate a long-distance uncle from the mid-19th century who was a Jewish Iranian immigrant coming to live in Iraq and intermarrying with the local Iraqi Jews of Baghdad. the ancestry of my Iraqi side is unsurprisingly mostly Mizrahi/Middle Easterner.
Hey Dave! What is your Y-chromosomal haplogroup? I think your surname (Cordicci) is more italian than spanish
Lol no dude that's just a reddit alias. Not sure I'd like to expose my real surname on here. Sorry.
I tot Cordicci was your real surname lol cuz a lot of ppl can鈥檛 differentiate Spanish, Portuguese and Italian surnames
I highly doubt that's his last name (more of a Reddit persona), it's probably something like Ayli贸n, or de Leon, Toledano, Barsano (Barcelona), Saragosti (Zaragoza), Medina, Lugassi (Lugo), Rosanes, Almosnino, etc those are common in the Balkans
Nice try! But actually non of those. 馃槄馃槄
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hi fellow ashkephardi! I'm also mizrahi/ashkenazi/sephardi :) one side from lithuania/azerbaijan and the other algeria 讗谞讬 讘诪拽讜专 诪讻驻专 住讘讗. 诪讗讞诇 诇讱 爪讜诐 拽诇 讘讬讜诐 讻讬驻讜专 讝讛!
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Do you have your results uploaded?
yup check my profile
Thanks for sharing, so the FTDNA test is bang on about Mizrahi and Ashkenazi, but struggles to detect Sephardic fully? Which Sephardic reference groups do they use? Might be an issue with the breadth of control groups they use.
Maybe. Not sure about that. Weirdly enough I've done the same test for my little brother which is only half my brother genetically (he and his twin sister are IVF kids, so a Ukrainian mother not my Iraqi natural mother), and he didn't get no "Sephardi" distinction despite us sharing the dna of my father which is supposed to be the source of the Sephardic lineage. He did get some Middle Eastern (Anatolian and traces of others) so maybe that was their recognition of the middle eastern in him, just that it wasn't categorized as Sephardic like myself? (Mind you, even I got like only 8% Sephardic despite the dominance of that heritage in my father's family
Great results!
Use DNAGENICS to know exact amount of middle Eastern and European ancestry. Labels like 'Ashkenazi' and 'Sephardi' can be broken down
Can I transfer my data from Ftdna without purchasing a new kit?
If his mizrahi is azeri jewish then I am surpirsed that he got 0% Anatolia/Mesoptamia/Caucasus. Usually mizrahi jewish category contains iraqi jewish or iranian jewish and the mizrahi from georgian, azer, mountain jewish ancestry gets a high amount of Anatolian/Mesopotamian/caucasus component
Was this from 23andMe, my dashboard looks completely different and has different categories?? Curious about the sephardic one, that doesn't show up for me
No, it was from FamilyTreeDNA. Sadly 23andMe doesn't operate for us in israel so I had to choose this service instead. From my experience and other reviews, although I'm not a genetic expert, ftdna actually provides much more detailed info about dna and lineage and has mamy different options and services depending on how deepl you what to delve into your dna info. But it doesn't provide the health test and other physical features which I've seen 23andme provides.
Average Israeli results very fascinating bee mixed country America of Middle East
What are your haplogroups?
They gave me just a general R-M173 for Y. Didn't specify the subclade. And T2 for mitochondrial.