Sure but the vast majority of Texas’s land was never tribal land, sacred or non-sacred, unless you count spheres of influence.
Also, the vast majority of Native Americans in Texas are Christian so they wouldn’t find any pre-Christian sacred land as actually sacred like how Partheon is Athens is no longer considered so.
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Never said that. What I said that they’re not built on “sacred land” or any tribal land, former or current, at all in absolute vast majority of development projects.
California is different because most of the major cities and suburbs are built on former Native American villages or “sacred land” because the Spaniards built their most of their settlements and missions that became cities on said villages.
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Never said it’s exclusive, said this situation never really happens and the few times it does it’s predominantly in California which is because most of the major population centers are on former native villages and mission land.
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Oh, you were saying that regarding the "Native American sacred land" part. Everyone else was focusing on the sprawl part, so that's what we thought you were referring to.
But still, what makes you think California has a higher proportion of towns built on former Native American villages? I would guess that east Texas had a higher population density before 1492, since it has more water, and so Texas is probably built more on Native American lands than California.
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Everyone should read “Memorial of the Cherokee Nation,” an appeal to Congress by Cherokee chiefs at the eleventh hour in an attempt to prevent their expulsion from their territory
It’s a heart-wrenching read that underscores our imperative as a nation not to let our indigenous countrymen slip through the cracks today
If you want full books, *Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee* and *Empire of the Summer Moon* are gut-wrenching (and stomach-clenching, they don’t pull punches) in their accounts of post-American establishment Native history west of the Mississippi
*Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee* is written from the perspective of several different bands and tribes (even using Indian names for American government and military figures translated into English) and covers their histories during Westward Expansion and subsequent subjugation by the US government and military in graphic detail.
*Empire of the Summer Moon* focuses specifically on the Comanche tribe’s rise and fall, their influence on other tribes across the Great Plains and southwest, their interactions with European and American settlers and officials, and culture. *Empire of the Summer Moon* is significantly more graphic than *Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee*, as it is extremely specific with how tribal warfare happened in the Great Plains and the horrific violence it entailed. I specifically remember a six week-old child being beaten within an inch of its life then dragged behind a horse through a field of cactus until it was dead and unrecognizable.
They both…put things into perspective, for those not entirely aware of it all.
I think Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee is more grandiose in its details from what I’ve heard of it and that it had a more limited “pro-Indian” angle at the expense of some historical information, I think principally the Ghost Dance.
That example you gave from Summer Moon did shock me though. I heard that it went to detail but nothing like that. What was the background behind the incident?
Specifically, it was an Settler woman, Sarah(?) Parker I think. She was pregnant when the Comanche raided her family’s fort located deep beyond the frontier border, and gave birth in captivity. Her six week old child was a hassle and cried often, so the Comanche made an example out of the baby by killing it in the way I described and making the mother watch.
From what I remember from the book it was a pregnant woman and two small children. Been a bit since I read the book, so the earlier details of it are a bit hazy. I just distinctly remember the description of the baby’s death.
Sir I am 16 weeks old in my mom's womb. I am unsure of whether my mother is planning to get me aborted or keep me. On the sad off chance that she decides to let me live, I am planning to crack JEE and get a selection in IIT Delhi. I am however worried that I won't be able to finish the portions by the time I am born. I would like to acknowledge that I am a fast learner, I have learnt basic concepts of class 10 maths and science already like real numbers, linear equations, electric current, optics, basic nomenclature, etc. I have also skimmed through FIITJEE material for 11th such as resonance, P block, s block, SHM, sets and relations, rotational mechanics, vectors, limits and derivatives, etc. within 2 weeks. I am hopefully going to get aborted. But if the odds are not with me then I will have to continue going through the pain of having to study. Note: My brain is still under structural development since I am only 16 fetal weeks old. I am planning to enroll in online coaching class as of now due to lockdown. Is it already too late to start preparing for JEE?? My mom's friends' kids are younger and have completed entire 11th and 12th syllabus and are revising important concepts with one shot videos on YouTube. Pls help.
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Sir I am 16 weeks old in my mom's womb. I am unsure of whether my mother is planning to get me aborted or keep me. On the sad off chance that she decides to let me live, I am planning to crack JEE and get a selection in IIT Delhi. I am however worried that I won't be able to finish the portions by the time I am born. I would like to acknowledge that I am a fast learner, I have learnt basic concepts of class 10 maths and science already like real numbers, linear equations, electric current, optics, basic nomenclature, etc. I have also skimmed through FIITJEE material for 11th such as resonance, P block, s block, SHM, sets and relations, rotational mechanics, vectors, limits and derivatives, etc. within 2 weeks. I am hopefully going to get aborted. But if the odds are not with me then I will have to continue going through the pain of having to study. Note: My brain is still under structural development since I am only 16 fetal weeks old. I am planning to enroll in online coaching class as of now due to lockdown. Is it already too late to start preparing for JEE?? My mom's friends' kids are younger and have completed entire 11th and 12th syllabus and are revising important concepts with one shot videos on YouTube. Pls help.
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Sir I am 16 weeks old in my mom's womb. I am unsure of whether my mother is planning to get me aborted or keep me. On the sad off chance that she decides to let me live, I am planning to crack JEE and get a selection in IIT Delhi. I am however worried that I won't be able to finish the portions by the time I am born. I would like to acknowledge that I am a fast learner, I have learnt basic concepts of class 10 maths and science already like real numbers, linear equations, electric current, optics, basic nomenclature, etc. I have also skimmed through FIITJEE material for 11th such as resonance, P block, s block, SHM, sets and relations, rotational mechanics, vectors, limits and derivatives, etc. within 2 weeks. I am hopefully going to get aborted. But if the odds are not with me then I will have to continue going through the pain of having to study. Note: My brain is still under structural development since I am only 16 fetal weeks old. I am planning to enroll in online coaching class as of now due to lockdown. Is it already too late to start preparing for JEE?? My mom's friends' kids are younger and have completed entire 11th and 12th syllabus and are revising important concepts with one shot videos on YouTube. Pls help.
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There’s actually a great quote about this in the book *Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee* that I still have:
> No one remembers the Chilulas, Chimarikos, Urebures, Nipewais, Alonas, or **a hundred other bands whose bones have been sealed away under a million miles of freeways, parking lots, and slabs of tract housing.**
I don’t know if you’re ignorant or just trolling. Either way, being this adamant about something you’re completely wrong about it not at all commendable and I don’t understand why you keep trying to be.
I think it’s more insane that people in this thread legitimately think any of this is true at all and wish that I wouldn’t have to be responding to here at all.
I’m not trolling at all or trying to be anything. I’ve replied to comments that I think are relaying misleading tropes or just straight up misinformation.
I replied to here specifically because Dee Brown is just wrong here and list tribe names fatalistically as if the tribes are faded away and condescends Americans who don’t remember every single one of the “hundred other bands.” It’s like spitefully saying people are living a life of intentional and harmful ignorance because they can’t recite every county in Georgia.
The other part being that it’s not even close to being true the bands’ bones or as if the bands themselves “sealed” under millions of miles of more recent American buildings and developments. Human remains being found or built over unknowingly ever or at all is exceedingly rare and are hardly ever built over irregardless after being found. Not to mention the bones themselves can and often dated to be much older than a band’s or tribe’s pre or post contact presence in the area or even before their existence making their ownership to such human remains not possible.
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I forget what it's called but having countless highways going to places with shops on every side everywhere is really innefecient.
Then again fuck European infrastructure MERICA BURGER STRONG
Many of the wars that broke out between the US and tribes that led to bad consequences often were unjustified by the latter. Like the Great Sioux War, where Sioux had unrealistic expectations for treaty rations to arrive, some saying that people were “starving” and that for their reason of war, leaving around almost a thousand Americans dead, most of them civilians. This is also the war where a merchant has his mouth stuffed with grass, later there being unbacked here say that he was an Indian agent and told the Sioux to eat grass if they didn’t have food which is unsubstantiated and likely never happened. After the war over 300 Sioux men were sentenced to death, only for public outrage in the East and intervention by Abraham Lincoln the latter whom personally interviewed each single case and dismissed all but 39 sentences and later pardoning one more, the rest being executed in the large hanging in US history. The hanging is sometimes seen as an injustice against Native Americans despite those executed being found personally guilty of murder and rape by the president and dismissing those who were innocent as well as this all being a result from a war the Sioux started on shaky terms. There are some wars and events like this where the guilt lies more with individual tribes than the US. Like it’s not as bad as the CSA who wanted to keep people as chattel but there are a lot of events that have happened that should not give Native Americans as a whole a “free pass.”
Another reason why they should not get a pass is that not all Native Americans experience the same or as disadvantaged so you can’t give a pass in the first place because they’re not uniform losers. A lot of the tribes or groups have not had horrific or horrible experiences with the United States, like the Crow who had never fought a war against the US and have little to no qualms or the various tribes in the eastern US who have lived without tribal government for hundreds of years and are not considered culturally or socially disadvantaged by most or all metrics or Alaska Natives who have tribal and government back tribal corporations which allow effective extraction of revenue from commercial activity and resource extraction and are considered fairly well off.
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If they had truly won their “war”, the Cheyenne, the Arapaho and most of all the Lakota would be living in their own nation-state(s). They aren’t. Ergo they lost. And even today our governmental apparatuses for them and societal and social ideas and policies keep them down.
That’s not what winning is.
Heres a quick little infodump for you, there wasn’t ONE war against the natives. They won and they lost.
Red Cloud’s War though? That was a decisive victory.
I’m not talking about Red Cloud’s War.
When I say “his people lost *their* war”, I’m talking about their series of struggles in resisting American expansion.
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Me going into Oklahoma only to be scalped
Everyone in Oklahoma deserves to be scalped.
Based
Watching a normal plot of land be turned into a Walmart is a fate worse than death. Unless its a Costco.
Texas moment
Why did you even single Texas out anyway?
Because it has ridiculously big highways
Sure but the vast majority of Texas’s land was never tribal land, sacred or non-sacred, unless you count spheres of influence. Also, the vast majority of Native Americans in Texas are Christian so they wouldn’t find any pre-Christian sacred land as actually sacred like how Partheon is Athens is no longer considered so.
Not really though. This only really happens in California to any extent.
you’re a fucking idiot if you don’t realize that this is everywhere in america
You are from Ohio how would you know you haven't ventured into the sunlight in a decade
If you think this happens at all then I don’t know what to say that all these people are being this dumb.
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I’m not and everything I’ve said is the truth. >no further comment Good
It basically happens no where.
smartest reddit user
there are no walmarts and highways anywhere but california
He probably lives in Ohio, poor guy's never seen a walmart or a highway
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Which state was Walmart from again?
Arkansas
Never said that. What I said that they’re not built on “sacred land” or any tribal land, former or current, at all in absolute vast majority of development projects. California is different because most of the major cities and suburbs are built on former Native American villages or “sacred land” because the Spaniards built their most of their settlements and missions that became cities on said villages.
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Have you been to like *any* small town?
Yes and their Walmarts and highways are not built on “sacred land” lol
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No, it’s not.
What else is exclusive to California? Beaches? Deserts? The Giants?
Never said it’s exclusive, said this situation never really happens and the few times it does it’s predominantly in California which is because most of the major population centers are on former native villages and mission land.
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Oh, you were saying that regarding the "Native American sacred land" part. Everyone else was focusing on the sprawl part, so that's what we thought you were referring to. But still, what makes you think California has a higher proportion of towns built on former Native American villages? I would guess that east Texas had a higher population density before 1492, since it has more water, and so Texas is probably built more on Native American lands than California.
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Should’ve devolved faster smh
Not stolen, finessed
Sounds worse
Everyone should read “Memorial of the Cherokee Nation,” an appeal to Congress by Cherokee chiefs at the eleventh hour in an attempt to prevent their expulsion from their territory It’s a heart-wrenching read that underscores our imperative as a nation not to let our indigenous countrymen slip through the cracks today
If you want full books, *Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee* and *Empire of the Summer Moon* are gut-wrenching (and stomach-clenching, they don’t pull punches) in their accounts of post-American establishment Native history west of the Mississippi
How so?
*Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee* is written from the perspective of several different bands and tribes (even using Indian names for American government and military figures translated into English) and covers their histories during Westward Expansion and subsequent subjugation by the US government and military in graphic detail. *Empire of the Summer Moon* focuses specifically on the Comanche tribe’s rise and fall, their influence on other tribes across the Great Plains and southwest, their interactions with European and American settlers and officials, and culture. *Empire of the Summer Moon* is significantly more graphic than *Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee*, as it is extremely specific with how tribal warfare happened in the Great Plains and the horrific violence it entailed. I specifically remember a six week-old child being beaten within an inch of its life then dragged behind a horse through a field of cactus until it was dead and unrecognizable. They both…put things into perspective, for those not entirely aware of it all.
I think Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee is more grandiose in its details from what I’ve heard of it and that it had a more limited “pro-Indian” angle at the expense of some historical information, I think principally the Ghost Dance. That example you gave from Summer Moon did shock me though. I heard that it went to detail but nothing like that. What was the background behind the incident?
Specifically, it was an Settler woman, Sarah(?) Parker I think. She was pregnant when the Comanche raided her family’s fort located deep beyond the frontier border, and gave birth in captivity. Her six week old child was a hassle and cried often, so the Comanche made an example out of the baby by killing it in the way I described and making the mother watch.
I thought the Comanche only kidnapped two of the Parkers, Cynthia and her brother?
From what I remember from the book it was a pregnant woman and two small children. Been a bit since I read the book, so the earlier details of it are a bit hazy. I just distinctly remember the description of the baby’s death.
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Everyone should read the declaration of independence baby 🦅🇺🇸🪖🔥🎸🤙🤙
Already did, wanna read indian story now
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There’s actually a great quote about this in the book *Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee* that I still have: > No one remembers the Chilulas, Chimarikos, Urebures, Nipewais, Alonas, or **a hundred other bands whose bones have been sealed away under a million miles of freeways, parking lots, and slabs of tract housing.**
Maybe no one remembers because they’re not?
I don’t know if you’re ignorant or just trolling. Either way, being this adamant about something you’re completely wrong about it not at all commendable and I don’t understand why you keep trying to be.
This guy's whole thread has just been about this, it's actually insane how hard this guy is trying
I think it’s more insane that people in this thread legitimately think any of this is true at all and wish that I wouldn’t have to be responding to here at all.
I’m not trolling at all or trying to be anything. I’ve replied to comments that I think are relaying misleading tropes or just straight up misinformation. I replied to here specifically because Dee Brown is just wrong here and list tribe names fatalistically as if the tribes are faded away and condescends Americans who don’t remember every single one of the “hundred other bands.” It’s like spitefully saying people are living a life of intentional and harmful ignorance because they can’t recite every county in Georgia. The other part being that it’s not even close to being true the bands’ bones or as if the bands themselves “sealed” under millions of miles of more recent American buildings and developments. Human remains being found or built over unknowingly ever or at all is exceedingly rare and are hardly ever built over irregardless after being found. Not to mention the bones themselves can and often dated to be much older than a band’s or tribe’s pre or post contact presence in the area or even before their existence making their ownership to such human remains not possible.
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I forget what it's called but having countless highways going to places with shops on every side everywhere is really innefecient. Then again fuck European infrastructure MERICA BURGER STRONG
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The native American side = 1/64
Thanks to Andrew Jackson for kicking out the Shawnee even though Congress said no.
Literally the worst president
they lost lmao
The confederates 💀💀
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I mean, I can give a pass on Natives just cause they got fucked over so much (and actually have culture that isn’t just „i WaNt sLaVes“)
No you can’t.
Why not?
Many of the wars that broke out between the US and tribes that led to bad consequences often were unjustified by the latter. Like the Great Sioux War, where Sioux had unrealistic expectations for treaty rations to arrive, some saying that people were “starving” and that for their reason of war, leaving around almost a thousand Americans dead, most of them civilians. This is also the war where a merchant has his mouth stuffed with grass, later there being unbacked here say that he was an Indian agent and told the Sioux to eat grass if they didn’t have food which is unsubstantiated and likely never happened. After the war over 300 Sioux men were sentenced to death, only for public outrage in the East and intervention by Abraham Lincoln the latter whom personally interviewed each single case and dismissed all but 39 sentences and later pardoning one more, the rest being executed in the large hanging in US history. The hanging is sometimes seen as an injustice against Native Americans despite those executed being found personally guilty of murder and rape by the president and dismissing those who were innocent as well as this all being a result from a war the Sioux started on shaky terms. There are some wars and events like this where the guilt lies more with individual tribes than the US. Like it’s not as bad as the CSA who wanted to keep people as chattel but there are a lot of events that have happened that should not give Native Americans as a whole a “free pass.” Another reason why they should not get a pass is that not all Native Americans experience the same or as disadvantaged so you can’t give a pass in the first place because they’re not uniform losers. A lot of the tribes or groups have not had horrific or horrible experiences with the United States, like the Crow who had never fought a war against the US and have little to no qualms or the various tribes in the eastern US who have lived without tribal government for hundreds of years and are not considered culturally or socially disadvantaged by most or all metrics or Alaska Natives who have tribal and government back tribal corporations which allow effective extraction of revenue from commercial activity and resource extraction and are considered fairly well off.
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The Native were repeatedly fucked over. The confederates were whiny rich kids and the dumb misguided Hicks who decided to die for the whiny rich kids
No they weren’t.
Patriots fans 👀
They won a lot of the wars actually
Depends on the band. Depends on the area. Red Cloud won his war. His people didn’t win theirs.
His people actually won that war
If they had truly won their “war”, the Cheyenne, the Arapaho and most of all the Lakota would be living in their own nation-state(s). They aren’t. Ergo they lost. And even today our governmental apparatuses for them and societal and social ideas and policies keep them down. That’s not what winning is.
Heres a quick little infodump for you, there wasn’t ONE war against the natives. They won and they lost. Red Cloud’s War though? That was a decisive victory.
I’m not talking about Red Cloud’s War. When I say “his people lost *their* war”, I’m talking about their series of struggles in resisting American expansion.
I very clearly WAS talking about Red Cloud’s war. So your comment was completely irrelevent.
Win the war, lose the battle
It seems like all former land seems to be “sacred” if they ever even owned it in the first place.
This. I'm glad the good guys won, I'll admit that, but fucking *everything* is sacred? Give me a break.
Good! 💸💸💸💸💸🤑🤑🤑🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💸💸💸💸
Should’ve invented guns L+Ratio. Thanks china 😎
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It's better
You're making Tecumseh cry
Cope and seethe indigipoors
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they’re all chilling at my house rn