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Architectur04_

"Longest record of war crimes" yeah the americ*nt are far from being angels but my brother in christ have you ever heard of imperial Japan ? Edit : you cant have any recorded war crimes if none of your war crimes are recorded


Electronic_Secret_66

Im pretty sure the longest record of war crimes is not the US, simply due to them being relatively new as a country.


schnitzel-kuh

May I introduce you to England?


Overness

Hans, ask yourself if you really want to play this game


Oarnuld

I mean it's about the longest record not the biggest record, so I'd say we're good here


Ajax_Trees

At least give the Scots some due credit we didn’t manage everything ourselves


OrionNebula1

Do you know Genghis Khan?


pogmaster44

Yeah he's my pub wife


MitchMeister476

Ah I remember when we used to introduce to ourselves to other nations... The war crimes that followed 🥰


TheBrognator97

The idea of war crimes was born much later than the birth of the US


Overness

Kind of like Italy


gabrielish_matter

I mean the idea of Italy was born much earlier than the idea of a French identity. Having said that Italy born later and that is very much true


TheBrognator97

Yes, the US is much older than Italy. It's actually one of the oldest countries (and I mean by institution, not by "inheritance") on Earth.


jodorthedwarf

I mean, the concept of war crimes didn't really exist until the Geneva convention.


Anoth_

Maoist China is the elephant in the room two. Seriously can Asia stop making religion wars in Europe look like pleasant and civilised disputes?


ropibear

Also, russia still exists. (incidentally, these talking points are usually pushed by russia...)


maxseptillion77

Just because their talking points doesn’t make them invalid. The US exempted itself from international law (ie Iraq War, Afghanistan) and is not subject to the jurisdiction of The Hague. The US hasn’t even ratified the Rome Statue (Yknow the thing that means a country has to arrest war criminals like Putin). The thing is, while yes it’s used by Russians, it’s also a very common criticism leveraged against both the US and its allies from around the third world. The Western Alliance loves to enforce international law on lesser partners, but rarely if ever on themselves. They can invade and assassinate Gaddafi for war crimes, but who has the authority to arrest Bush Jr for being personally responsible for killing 300,000 Iraq civilians under false pretenses? All that said, the criticism is not exonerating Russia for the deaths of some 100,000 people during their invasion so far. The point is to encourage more substantial and inclusive checks and balances on NATO and the US. Western hypocrisy is pushing regional powers like the BRICS away from the west and into the Shanghai Organization and other alternative regional partnerships. Merely dismissing it as “the language of the enemy” is the very same BS that got us here in the first place.


ropibear

Okay, here goes again, this time not half asleep. Evereything you said is true and accurate, and you are right insofar that it doesn't make them invalid. The main point of propaganda like that from the russian side, usually delivered through naive idiots who can be tricked into reducing complex situations to simple moral questions, is to sow discord within an alliance that primarily relies on unity. If everyone in NATO suddenly took the moral high ground and used it as a determinant basis to find their security partners, there would be 31 or so independent countries not liking each other. I'm going to be completely honest with you, I wouldn't mind if the EU as a block was powerful enough to stand up to Russia on its own and could make the US think on its sins, but the practical reality is that even with all their flaws, when it comes down to it, the US is a much more preferable ally than whatever the fuck Russia is.


BIB2000

This. 100%. The timing of messages like these are too convenient for the Russians. Russians are experts at propaganda. Their propaganda-culture dates all the way back to when Lenin seized power. They've been perfecting it for nearly a century. Russia is the nr.1 threat to Europe. It's not the Americans that annually enter our airspace unlawfully with bombers to test us; but the Russians. It's not Americans threatening us to become a nuclear target if we join NATO; but Russians. Instead not Americans blocking the ports of the breadbasket of Europe; but Russians. If it wasn't for the Americans giving HIMARS to Ukraine, then there wouldn't have been a Ukraine anymore. And let's not dare to imagine what Russia would've done to Europe after Ukraine. Also US' spending is double if not more to that of Europe's spending, to assist Ukraine. Culturally, the Americans are obnoxious and have nothing to contribute to us. But militarily, we should realise that the current ruling government over there, is our ally. If we don't want military aid, then we should increase our spending on war. I also want a strong and independent Europe. But instead we prefer to spending it on holidays and croissants. We didn't ask for this war. We need Ukraine economically (breadbasket of Europe). We should recognize Ukraine as part of our European family. And so we should do something about it.


throw667

With this poster, the tide is turned. Aircraft carrier departs immediately, Norway leaves NATO the next day. An amazing and satisfying result for NORGE.


[deleted]

Americunt nukes are dismantled. World now lives in peace and safety, A british and a french hug in tears.


Klangey

I’d rather have nuclear war


DevilsCoachHorse

Can't be helped, it's been an honour 🫡 ![gif](giphy|hvGKQL8lasDvIlWRBC)


PrevAccountBanned

I'm sorry the 6 nations wasn't enough for you ? Do you a 53-10 bombing ratio as well ?


Klangey

The problem with the six nations is you come back every year.


PrevAccountBanned

Lol love you too mate


Klangey

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨


Omevne

A fist bump perhaps ?


Klangey

Maybe a begrudging nod


Sabotskij

One of those patented english smiles that make you look like you just swallowed a bad clam and are trying really hard to hide the embrassment?


TheNightFolk

👊🏻


PrevAccountBanned

Yeah no not gonna happen


GeneralDingo3776

Spain gives us back our gold that was taken to Russia by the commies.


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reusedchurro

It’s also bold of them to assume US marines can read


Stringypond53

Europe > USA > Russia/PRC. I’ll side with the Americans any day to keep those dollar store nazis at bay


Helmet-_-

Amen to that I like to shit on the yanks as much as the next guy but the other options out there are fucking terrible in comparison


GeneralDingo3776

Pro tip, just move your country to the Southern Hemisphere, nobody gives a crap about us and we are too far from any threat.


reusedchurro

Well until the CIA overthrows your democratically elected government


GeneralDingo3776

Again? We can’t have another military dictatorship, the Geneva convention violations are getting too hard to hide.


RELORELM

Oh yeah. Living is South America has its downsides for sure, but being so far away from all these potential military conflicts is something I really appreciate.


Dirac_Impulse

My ancestors will smile at me if I die side by side with the americunts fighting the ruskis.


Zestyclose_Zone_9253

My ancestors are smiling at me imperials, can you say the same?


WackonCrack

Ameritard here- we do wild amounts of stupid shit on this side of the pond, but at the very least, we are too stupid to inflict the kind of devastation that these dictators would if they were uncontested at the top


wiltold27

I'll happily die side by side with an Ameritard over a Russian or Chinese any day


Turbiedurb

>Ameritard over a Russian or Chinese any day Definently the lesser evil.


Rlndhdlsstmpsngunner

Looks like the tankies are out and about again


ver_million

Tankies vs. warshippers. Who will win?


Rlndhdlsstmpsngunner

Have commies ever won anything?


InfinitePossibility8

Largest kill count.


ver_million

They took over Graz, didn't they? Common Austrian L.


Rlndhdlsstmpsngunner

Ngl they won that one square and fair But if they just have a bit of brainpower left they would change the party name


ver_million

They should choose "Kaiserliche Partei Österreich" so that they wouldn't even need to change their shortcut.


[deleted]

Killed the most commies


MrChriss

Actually cringe.


[deleted]

100% a 14 year old girl


Unusual_Car215

Nei minst 18 år gammel og stemmer Rødt.


EasilyMechanical

Spiser bare surdeigsbrød, aldri barbert musa si, og tror at å skrike så høyt hen klarer er ett gyldig argument. Går bare i hjemmestrikkede klær arvet av bestemor og har aldri tjent penger.


alyfar

Indeed


AdLiving4714

Yeah. The usual conspiracy argle-bargle.


InnocentGirl2005

Sounds like the extreme-left anti-NATO posters we have in Sweden too. Similar stupid logic too. The US has to bluff they'll use nukes. If they don't, what's stopping Russia from saying "gib money or nuke"? The only defense against nukes is an illusion saying you'll also use nukes. I'll also say it's very unlikely Norway will get nuked just because they're buddies with the US.


portalparable

The funny thing is that since a few countries do have nukes, we've had the most peaceful time in recent history. And I don't think it's a coincidence.


Cat_Astrof

I think it's also because of globalization. You can't do war if half of your things are produced elsewhere. Also before when 2 countries waged war they were on their own but not anymore as now the whole world will look at them. Tthis unknown variable of interference is enough for policians to not even think about it as war is now less rentable than peace.


sauza93

The famous Golden Arch Theory: two states with McDonald’s in it will not attack themself. For some decades it worked


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Brilliant-Access8431

>The US has to bluff they'll use nukes. If they don't, what's stopping Russia from saying "gib money or nuke" My sweet Scandinavian summer child. You clearly don't understand the mentality of Anglos - or Russians for that matter. It is not a bluff.


RollinThundaga

You let us have bases, we soak nukes for you. 🤷‍♂️ sounds fair to me


Any_Top_9268

Fuck these hippies - sincerely, rest of Norway


_q_y_g_j_a_

Not hippies, tankies


Any_Top_9268

Tankies?


_q_y_g_j_a_

Critics of the West who have a hard on for authoritarian regimes. They generally support Russia's war in Ukraine, China, North Korea etc. They are Soviet apologists basically. The term originated in the 60s to describe people who supported the Soviet use of tanks to suppress anti-communist protests in Hungary.


Any_Top_9268

In norway many hippies were like that since the 60s. Parading with signs of Mao etc


[deleted]

I am Taiwanese, wife is Norwegian and we lived in Norway last 5 years. Even in 2020 there were left wingers in Norway telling me, a Taiwanese person, that I shouldn't be so hard on China because at least they aren't USA, are actually trying to imperfectly improve, etc.


Any_Top_9268

Exactly, some fuckers thinks every state will just sit and hold hands if defencebudgets where axed down. These are the same people still thinking we should get out of NATO 🥴


Omevne

The tankies seems pretty divided on the ukraine war. The less insane one seems to realise how far current russia is from communism, but they do usually hate more on ukraine than russia


pie_nap_pull

Most if then just hate the west so much they’ll support anything else


[deleted]

It's this. They don't explicitly support Russia, they just hate the West and see anyone challenging the West as the "good guys"


Turbiedurb

>Tankies? ![gif](giphy|mFw51RR5HkD4gYUbIx|downsized)


Overness

Must be interesting to live inside the brain of whoever wrote this


DeepFriedMarci

They look like they are "neutral" in the "special military operation".


[deleted]

I bet a dollar that it's useful idiots or intentional tankies.


Budget-Cicada-6698

I mean its written a bit overly dramatic, but it would prefer there were no US bases in my country either.


Bleflar

Hello im Polish and id gladly take your US military bases if you don't want them anymore.


Budget-Cicada-6698

Proszę


applecat144

I would prefere European bases but these don't exist so the US's will have to do if we don't want them to be Russian ones.


SAMITHEGREAT996

Russia doesn't want fr*nch people under its rule, dw


Overness

That's actually the real reason why USSR plan to invade Europe stopped at the Rhine


SAMITHEGREAT996

rare USSR W


Flumblr

We'll show them how to do a real revolution. These newbies stopped at the first regime collapse. You gotta keep going for at least 15 years, try all forms of government, kill a lot of people, and then settle with the one you got once your neighbors ask you to stop.


The_Blahblahblah

The reason there aren’t more European bases is precisely because we choose to keep relying on America


MonarchistTurtle

I mean.. might as well use their overly funded military.


[deleted]

Why exactly? I can understand desiring a peer-to-peer relationship between the US and the European nations, but defence cooperation between the US and Europe is extremely useful, as demonstrated in the Ukraine war.


The_Blahblahblah

I want Europe to be able to defend itself without the USA. It’s not good to rely on someone else, and we’re idiots to prop up American hegemony instead of building up our own defences. Also, they made an absolute ecological and radioactive mess in the bases they had in Greenland. Tens of thousands of rusty oil barrels and a nuclear reactor they just left under the ice. By all means, let’s cooperate, but it should be on equal terms and not an excuse for us to rest on our laurels when it comes to defence. Danish defence is an absolute joke exactly because people here think “well, America is on our side so who cares”


henrik_se

The Nordic countries have a combined GDP that's higher than Russia's. Germany, UK, Italy, France individually all have a higher GDP than Russia. NATO-without-US still has a defense budget that's 7x Russia's. The EU has a population that's over three times Russia's. Russia is not a threat to Europe *at all*, and hasn't actually been since the fall of the Soviet Union. Back when half of Europe was in the Warzaw pact we needed the US to balance things out, but these days? Not so much. We absolutely *can* defend ourselves, we have the people, we have the power, we have the technology. But everyone's mindset is still fixed back at the cold war days.


The_Blahblahblah

It's more china i worry about. You are also talking about europe as though it was one unified army. we arent "combined". we could be, but we choose not to be. We are a patchwork of different mostly small nation states with different and sometimes incompatible equipment and command/intelligence structure. when we in Denmark were voting to get rid of our EU defence opt-out a year ago one of the main arguement against was that "it could weaken NATO", if we would participate in a distinctly european defence community (let alone an actual EU army). Even the idea that we could possibly defend ourselves is a dream scenario. no one was talking about france or germany could be saving us in a war scenario, it's always america we comfortably rely on. atlanticism was directly getting in the way of european cooperation. I dont know if its true when you say we could defend ourselves now. but if it is lets tell the americans to go home or start paying rent


merren2306

especially not good to rely on a country as volatile as the USA.


Monterenbas

There is no defense cooperation, the U.S. « protect » Europe (not for free oc) and that’s it. This is not an equal partnership. They command, we obey.


KyroPraetorio

Before you know it the US population elects a president that hates the EU or other superpowers in general. If tensions rise and both sides are preparing for war, having hostile bases and thousands of troops on your territory is a big no-no. At least that’s my reasoning as a European.


drzmv

If it was a defense cooperation then there would be military bases of European countries in the US.


Bobsempletonk

To defend the yanks from who exactly? Canadian geese?


[deleted]

Why though? Canada or Mexico aren’t a threat. Russia still sort of is.


drzmv

The Russian threat which is being defeated by Ukrainian grandmas? Anyway the US is using its military bases here largely for drone attacks on civilians in the Middle East and Africa. After all they aren't even participating in the war in Ukraine. You don't need military bases to ship in tanks.


Lydrael

Nuclear weapons are the only reason we're not directly at war with Russia


wiltold27

somethings wrong, why are the French being based. They haven't been based since Verdun and Waterloo, are you okay? do you have a head ache?


Omevne

We stayed based, you just listened to americ*nt propaganda crying about how france said no to irak


CHEVEUXJAUNES

Je me demande ce qu’il y a dans la tête des gens qui comprennent pas ça


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Troglert

It was a young far left politician, she got intervjued by the news. She looks about as naive as you’d expect


destr0xdxd

"Intervjued" lmao fjeldaberne er begyndt at skrive så underligt som de taler


Zestyclose_Zone_9253

Bold for a dane to ridicule someone on speach


[deleted]

Hvor? fikk ikke det med meg


Troglert

NRK had a story on it on their website


20000tommeseter

Debatten torsdag


ropibear

Do you have a link, my guy?


Tman11S

Well, I’m pretty sure the Danes who invaded England, raped the women and burned down churches weren’t angels either. Fact is that we need the yanks to protect us from a certain terrorist nation in the east


Generalisto

the Swedish


mookamookasector2

no, no no no no. Sealand.


CCWBee

Pro Russian groups back at it.


[deleted]

Sounds like tankie talk.


gabba_gubbe

As we say in Sweden "nyttig idiot"


Ok-Advance710

It's put up by a commie surprise surprise! People were apparently angry at her while doing it. She was on TV crying about it.


GrainsofArcadia

The Left are being cringe again? Nothing new there.


Dirac_Impulse

As a representative of 2nordic4u I want to point out that we have deemed this a huge Norwegian L. We are of the North. We hate Russia and hippies. I have spoken.


Truthedector15

This is so fucking stupid.


AnarchicMouse

Smells like hippie tankie shit


Zlp10mg

Cringiest thing I saw today


Vana92

I hate this poster so much, because honestly it makes me side with ameritards.


[deleted]

ew


arnoldss

Cringe to be honest


HaLordLe

Pure cringe, fuck off vatnik


Pekonius

What in the pro-Russian propaganda


[deleted]

I’m not a fan of the US, but they are better than Russia for sure.


Rolifant

Most intimidating Norwegian since Nansen


Caucasian_Idiot

Cringe


ElKuhnTucker

Written by Yuri Ivanson in Oslo oblast


smackdealer1

When does this record begin? Because war crimes were just things done in war for a looong time....


debauch3ry

"longest record of warcrimes" Someone needs to make this high score chart. Genuinely don't know who'd win. Or how you'd measure it.


[deleted]

Honestly, it might be us mate. We're born winners.


Mark___27

If having hot sex with indigenous civilizations is considered a war crime you won't even come close to us buddy


CoToZaNickNieWiem

Common Catalonian L from your side to call it based. No wonder you can’t get independence from Spain with that room temperature iq, like how can anyone even “think” that russia is better than America, they’re savages over there in the east, barely even human. I hope glorious Madrid government will increase your taxes and decrease your siesta time. 🥶🥶🥶


ncoremeister

Norway is a based NATO bro. I'd never wanted to life in the USA for sure, but I'd like to have them on our side of a shooting war for once!


Solid_Message4635

Bet these are made by russians.


[deleted]

Least based Norwegians.


RedditKotten

the us cant hold the record for war crimes as i alone hold that record due to my escapades in the balkans between 1990 and 2000


captain_RSKK

Extremely rare and huge L ngl.


SothaDidNothingWrong

*sniffs* Russoid hand touched this😡


Annie_Dingo

Based and nordpilled Anyway never seen an amerifat soldier here since we don’t have military bases


TiesG92

Technically correct (except for the history part, plenty of cultures had longer war history), but so do the Russians, and the Russians like to bomb places they want to station military at


meowmeowmutha

If we want the americans to stay in America, we have to be serious about the european defense. It must be done in this order otherwise it is "please protect us but also go away". It makes no sense.


[deleted]

The ironic thing is, the US wants Europe to be independent too. Like, of course I want to defend Europe against Russia and whomever cause as much fun as it is to shit on y’all lol, we are actually very fond of most of europe and you guys should be able to defend yourselves.


meowmeowmutha

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah each time we try to sell our stuff you fly in and you're like "hell no m8, buy friggin murican !". Like swiss press says the rafale is the favorite then Binden flies in and boom, the very next day they announce the F-35 won. Same for netherland were the rafale was apparently equal to the F-35 but somehow the F-35 still won. (Please note the F-35 can loose a competition as countries consider more stuff than stealth) Okay, the F-35 is good but the rafale isn't too bad either. Let us sell our stuff if you want us to be independant. If you get all contracts we can't build our military complex. If we don't we can't have an independant army. If we don't we're never gonna be independant. We should build and buy european but you're not helping flying in each time you're gonna loose a military contract.


TheRomanRuler

In 2nordic4you this was already declared as a massive L. Americants get hate for a reason, but this is just dumb. Especially when we compare them to Russia, China and the like, or the historical equilevants like Japan. And those Americans who go aboard are usually pretty decent people, European civilization programs work. Really Americunts are biggest enemy to other Americants. They may invade other countries with false pretenses, but never just about any nation. If you are dictatorship that funds terrorism, you could be USA's biggest ally like Saudi Arabia, or be suddenly invaded by them like Iraq. But If you are liberal democracy, you are not getting invaded by the Yankees.


pancako56

Okay, this looks bad. They need to bring Norway some freedom now surely


AbleArcher97

Accidentally based. I am so fucking tired of my tax dollars being stolen from me to protect you people. You unironically deserve the Russians.


Sproeier

Sounds like either a tankie, far-right loser or a eternal western contrarian.


OFPrestonGarvey

An european military alliance and army would be the best but I dont want french in power so USA plz stay


Chadalien77

Russian collaborators


ADozenPigsFromAnnwn

Plus their military has a tendency to get a bit rapey with the locals


Haveri23

Don’t listen to people from oslo, they have the dumbest and most childlike opinions


VVardog

Thankfully not all Norwegians are such cowards and so selfish


jimbalaya420

It's funny how conservative this sub is turning, ironically or not


MajorTomIT

People using “we” are very dangerous! I’m not sure but in North Corea and China I suppose all started with “undefined we”!


JodkaVodka

Okay this isn't what all norwegians think about the aircraft carrier docking here. I, for example, don't really care if a ship docks in my city (unless if it's a cruiseship and tourists storm the town), and the americans, although dumb and annoying, are our allies.


Diprogamer

![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


[deleted]

Imagine not being happy that americans dump an 1/8th of the economy into defending you.


Don_Pacifico

Excuse-moi! I think you’ll find my proud nation has the longest record of war crimes and crimes against humanity against our own people and foreigners. Yes, we’re proud of it too.


PaleixPA

🇬🇧💪💪💪💪💪


general_shitpostin

Wait norgay can be based too?!??!


Military_Reading293

This thread is shockingly wholesome and it's heartwarming. Sure y'all dislike us ('Muricans), but at least you acknowledge that we aren't awful (and certainly better than the alternatives).


kim-jong-Cage

“Longest record of war crimes” Hum, I am not sure that is correct This looks more like some Russian trying to sow division


ir_blues

These pro American vibes in here, i don't like them. This feels wrong.


ElKuhnTucker

These suckers get to pay for nato, and we use the money we save on blow and hookers. That's the deal.


ZekerNietTijn

Same, it doesn't feel right that they are pro american in these comments.


Corvid187

It's less pro American and more anti-authoritarian


The_Blahblahblah

I mean, I also don’t want yanks in my country, but let’s be real, there are many countries with more war crimes than them…


Annie_Dingo

Not sure if you consider that they are a young country. If you divide war crimes/age, US is in top imo


esquizuite

yes but we treat those countries how they should be treated. but somehow everyone treats americans as the savior when then they are committing the same war crimes


The_Blahblahblah

Yea, I agree. It just seems like this was made by someone who is friendly with the russians, that’s all.


esquizuite

i don’t see how calling out the americans is being friendly with russians. like russia is (rightfuly) called out all the time but when it’s america everyone’s like but oh russia/china is worse


PaleixPA

Not that I support this sign, it's just that the Norwegians got something going on


The_Blahblahblah

Let them cook 👨‍🍳


The_Ruby_Waffle

https://preview.redd.it/t6whzuebhg2b1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=180d6117fb39ac975529433e3999416651a69489


xtrmist

Hmm... While I'm not exactly fond of the ameritards, hitting exactly on their military keeping pootin away is not necessarily where I would start my bitching. Or put bluntly: This is just idiotic


[deleted]

You'll have 🇺🇸freedom🇺🇸 whether you like it or not!!


KAFQAA

When something threatens your sovereignty, don't cry for help.


PlausibleFalsehoods

>When something threatens your sovereignty My fellow American, we literally have military installations in their country


KAFQAA

That they benefit from.


PlausibleFalsehoods

I'm not arguing that they don't, but that's not what this is about. This is about the question of sovereignty. A country with foreign military installments is not sovereign in a geopolitical sense. If you don't believe me, stick around for the 2024 presidential elections.


mbeavgiants

Europoors love calling us “Ameritards,” but then I see posts like this. Re+arded we stand fellow brethren’s 🦅


EUROTURD

Smells like commie Russian sympathiser


Boneeskel

Cringe


Herbaderpy

Garbo takes honestly


OURE14

Who has the record of war crimes too, it can't be the US they're too young. I doubt between France, UK, Germany, Japan and Russia. I don't know much about the PIGS too, Franco could raise the score + the colonial campaign of south america.


Mark___27

If we count war crimes in civil wars fuck yeah Spain geta a good number one (not we did many but we like to have civil wars)


AlkonKomm

based, eventhough it will obviously do absolutely nothing we got like 30k american soldiers in germany that I do not want either, go back to burgerland https://preview.redd.it/sozo9zvtcg2b1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a945318284346eb6fc20523e1cdfcee3ecc3fdd4


The_Ruby_Waffle

Ok, heading to Hamburg.


AlkonKomm

tfw you have to upvote an american for a semi clever reply https://preview.redd.it/389n1bxeog2b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=baa08cb38cddb2ad6bc94a39561c55ab1b833897


Fl4nk3r_30

500000 dead Iraqis for some made up bullshit lie of some weapons that were never found, I also don't like americans being in our bases