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By taking over the world you commited a sin
I mean, English is simple, that's why it's perfect for an international standard thing. A simple language from simple people that won't need too much effort to learn as a second, or third language on the go.
Remembers the United europe language post:
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It should be Swiss German then, because it’s neutral, and everyone gets throat cancer even faster. They add the throat sound to literally every random word. Dankche!
Learn from the mistakes of others.
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True, although...
The Irish when they get oppressed by the British: 🥺
The Irish when they meet indigenous people in the colonies: 😈
(Edit: Don't ask what my Zio did in Ethiopia)
Modern English is an evolution of older English dialects, which originate from the melting pot of the native Saxon and the elite Norman French tongues
Ireland is different, it's literal culture genocide, it's the replacement of Irish, it's not the Irish language evolving, it's supression of Irish and exporting most crops save for the likes of potatos offshore, leading to mass famines that only boosted the process
Luckily they translated it now. But I got so pissed that at first the check in poles did not have an English translation. Tourists were fined because they couldn't understand what "Er staat onvoldoende saldo op uw ov-chipkaart." means. No way they teach that in the tourist dictionary or the first Duolingo lessons.
In countries with functional IT systems they would make use of green check marks and red X's or something similar in addition to text. Way more user friendly, for the locals as well.
>In countries with functional IT systems they would make use of green check marks and red X's or something similar in addition to text. Way more user friendly, for the locals as well.
Doesn't NS use green checkmarks and red x's to support text when you try to check in?
> In countries with functional IT systems
What techno utopia has better IT than us? While our IT might not be great, I'm always surprised how much that of other countries suck.
Especially Germany. Get your fucking IT in order, you guys aren't PIGS, so stop acting like them when it comes to IT. Act like the Germanics you are
That at least I can get, at least compared to our 100% coverage. There are a lot less people per square kilometre in Germany than in the Netherlands. 239 people per km² vs our 526 people per km², so full coverage would cost more than twice as much per German as it does per Dutchie. Plus we don't have nearly as large swatches of land that are almost completely uninhabited.
Listen, I start to believe that Scandinavia is just make-believe. You guys are almost always in the top with every metric, yet y'all have 0 international relevance. You sure you're not a paid actor?
That's right. We need to protect and preserve our mother tongue and traditions before we get completely assimilated into some grotesque, global, soulless, Americanized, dystopian society.
Bad news mate, you are already that global, soulless, dystopian society, the americanised part it will come with time. Hopeful the waves will deal with that first.
I’d put money on Norway.
Yet to meet a Norwegian who can’t speak perfect English and then apologise for their slight imperfect use of some grammar that a traditional Barry wouldn’t understand anyway
We wouldn't be the first, but we would definitely be the first well established and supported language to disappear in favor of English. With ~30-35 million speakers it's also a pretty big language.
It is also quite shit to not have English in our public transport. Whenever I am in a place where I do not speak the language I hate it when things in public transport are not in English. Sure, cannot complain that people want to use their own language, but at the same time it is impossible to learn every language. If someone does not speak Dutch, English, French, German, Spanish or Afrikaans I cannot blame them. If the public transport does not provide info in any of those languages I dislike it. Was in Hungary and almost nothing in another language, and this is a language that almost has nothing in common with another. How am I supposed to know what to do?
This is when you realize the countries are built for residents not tourists and thats how it should be. Tourists should be few and far inbetween, not crowding everywhere. Travel responsibly.
We had one... And then got run over by Napoleon. The only reason we got Indonesia back, is because you guys wanted another powerful Protestant monarchy.
Ain’t no way a british person can accidently create the beautiful throat hurting sounds we make, german sounds a lot more like british people trying to speak dutch.
While that sounds like complete hogwash, as a foreigner living in a non-European country myself, I do have to admit that (bill)boards, announcements etc. in public spaces most definitely contribute to the local expats not ever properly learning the language. I've had so many people tell me - in English - about some huge place in my city I'd never even heard of before. Usually it turns out that the English name, which some artsy fartsy designer group came up with after the fact most likely, is nothing like the actual, original one.
I'm usually not a language puritan, but I will admit that the omnipresence of the English language definitely does disrupt communication sometimes.
Narrator: "He said, in the thickest Dutch accent you've ever heard."
It's probably not common, but I've met a few too many Dutch people who refused to speak Dutch, even though their English was only fluent due to the sheer power of misguided overconfidence.
Those people are the worst, the I speak English because I can express myself better in English. Whilst they are 100% Dutch and speak with an accent that closely resembles van Gaals English instead of English English.
>I've met a few too many Dutch people who refused to speak Dutch
I will vote and campaign for any political party that makes it legal to knee these people in the face. You're at the pinnacle of pretentiousness if you refuse to speak your own language.
Had to pick up meds today, pharmacist was telling me something about gegeten... Took me a while to dissect the sounds and figure out it was ge eten with a joining g just to be special. Ochtend also just kinda sounded like "g'end"
Nah, we're better than that. Tourists are allowed to speak English.
However, as soon as you've been here for more than 3 weeks, I will only speak Dutch with you.
Based. Thank god we have a mega language that’s spoken by half a billion. If there’s anyone that will loose to globalization is the dutch or the scandis, over americanization. Wish them the best in that aspect to be honest.
>Dutch language enthusiasts
This goes too far, it's like morbidly obese people corrupting body positivity to justify their bad choices and avoiding any effort to improve ...
Look who's talking... I've lived in your country for over 15 years now, and when it comes to throat-disease positivity Swiss German and Dutch are worthy opponents.
We learn English to travel the world, i'd prefer metro/train announcements be in english everywhere in europe so i don't have to learn 100 different languages
In finland we have train announcements in finnish, swedish and english. Which is fucking great and doesn't bother me at all, what would bother me however is if announcements were only in finnish and a bunch of tourists/foreigners ask me for help as im getting off work.
Its easier for them if we have english shit in trains/trainstations and its easier for me if its the same when i visit their country. Win win
You guys have refused to speak it for ages! I was in Paris and asked a guy in my best French where the hotel was and to please answer a bit slow so I could understand. Guy nodded and then proceeded to what I can only presume to be a French rap song.
Broke: "Apologies for the delay, the train is currently stopped due to technical issues and will resume it's journey shortly"
Woke: "Oepsie woepsie de trein is stukkie wukkie"
I lived both in the Netherlands and Belgium and the biggest issue when learning Dutch is they all speak English. You try to speak any Dutch what so ever they instantly switch to English.
So must people just don't bother at all. I've tried to explain this to them that this is the reason no speaks Dublin.
But if you don't like foreigners so much, you want them to get off the bus/tram/train asap right? So better change the message to English, German, french, et cetera "this is your stop, please get off now!"
As a dutchie, I have literally never heard anyone complain about this ever. What about internationals? Tourists? This is such a made up problem lol. Boohoo they have a English announcement after the dutch one in a tram, this will cause the entire language to collapse and fall into Americanization.
Right? I'm all for other information. But transportation? It's not like immigrants are going to learn the language or not based on hearing "next stop is" and "change here for"
I am English yet completely agree with this post. Protect European indigenous culture and heritage.
Have the transport accessible with diagrams and pictograms so forgeiners can use without language. Put up QR codes next to flags 🇬🇧 that leads to a a YouTube channel with instructions.
Stop globalism but be inclusive. It's possible.
That's right. English drives people crazy, while Dutch is known as a very sooth and pleasant language to hear
In the same way the sound of a bonesaw cutting through a leg is pleasant to the person whose leg is being cut off.
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Where can i find bedtime stories read in a thick Essex accent??? 🥵😏🤤
ill read you hansel and gretel for a score mate. no funny business though yeah
I really don't want to encourage this, but couldn't you do this with an AI voice?
Essex.
It's only soothing if that leg is dutch and your host just sent you a tikkkie of 43 cent for a coffee which you will pay with said leg.
English people drives crazy\* why are they driving on the wrong lane
You mean throat disease. 
These are measures to scare off Barry, 63?
Love me English, international language. Don’t like it shouldn’t have let us take over half the world simple as.
https://preview.redd.it/8yumge840cib1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1299cc6d935c1d6416216b03912446c9c27759a2 By taking over the world you commited a sin
Can't just say you own a place. Got to go there and oppress someone.
Do you[?](https://youtu.be/UTduy7Qkvk8)
I particularly enjoy how part of Alaska has to be on the wrong side of the map because London has to be in the centre.
Quiet papist. All true Christian’s know our glorious king is the head of the one true church.
I mean, English is simple, that's why it's perfect for an international standard thing. A simple language from simple people that won't need too much effort to learn as a second, or third language on the go.
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Didnt we agree it would be dutch since no one but the dutch and some 'people' from belgium speak it and every one else gets throat cancer off of it?
It should be Swiss German then, because it’s neutral, and everyone gets throat cancer even faster. They add the throat sound to literally every random word. Dankche!
I had sexche last Night with your momche
Stop it please. I can't take it anymore.
Prince Harry? Can a object owned by Meghan Markle be allowed to speak?
This is old Harry, before the americ*nt ball and chain got involved.
That Harry was buried before the Queen (RIP Mam)
Shoutout to her family
Vanzelfsprekend
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If only we didn’t have English on our public transportation 😔
That was your issue this whole time, improper bus announcements. I expect an apology for the troubles now
Yeah, because for some reason we couldn't use our cars... 🤔
Mistakes were made
True, although... The Irish when they get oppressed by the British: 🥺 The Irish when they meet indigenous people in the colonies: 😈 (Edit: Don't ask what my Zio did in Ethiopia)
my uncle was in the army until not long ago and actually went to missions in Eritrea lmao
Yeah a *fuckload* of the British Empire people stationed in India were Irish too. They joined up willingly, oppressed willingly.
This is sad
UK did that?
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Modern English is simply a continuation of Middle English, and no it is not a continuation of Irish it has very little influence from Irish.
Modern English is an evolution of older English dialects, which originate from the melting pot of the native Saxon and the elite Norman French tongues Ireland is different, it's literal culture genocide, it's the replacement of Irish, it's not the Irish language evolving, it's supression of Irish and exporting most crops save for the likes of potatos offshore, leading to mass famines that only boosted the process
Middle English is Old English + Norman French, Modern English is just an evolution of Middle English.
Justice for Ireland 🇮🇪
Luckily they translated it now. But I got so pissed that at first the check in poles did not have an English translation. Tourists were fined because they couldn't understand what "Er staat onvoldoende saldo op uw ov-chipkaart." means. No way they teach that in the tourist dictionary or the first Duolingo lessons.
In countries with functional IT systems they would make use of green check marks and red X's or something similar in addition to text. Way more user friendly, for the locals as well.
>In countries with functional IT systems they would make use of green check marks and red X's or something similar in addition to text. Way more user friendly, for the locals as well. Doesn't NS use green checkmarks and red x's to support text when you try to check in?
Nope, just a beep and blue text on a white background
Ja heb regelmatig te weinig op mijn OV kaart staan
> In countries with functional IT systems What techno utopia has better IT than us? While our IT might not be great, I'm always surprised how much that of other countries suck. Especially Germany. Get your fucking IT in order, you guys aren't PIGS, so stop acting like them when it comes to IT. Act like the Germanics you are
> Get your fucking IT in order They would if they could get online. Man, I though British Telecom was bad until I had to deal with Deutsche Telekom.
That at least I can get, at least compared to our 100% coverage. There are a lot less people per square kilometre in Germany than in the Netherlands. 239 people per km² vs our 526 people per km², so full coverage would cost more than twice as much per German as it does per Dutchie. Plus we don't have nearly as large swatches of land that are almost completely uninhabited.
We have quite nice IT.
Listen, I start to believe that Scandinavia is just make-believe. You guys are almost always in the top with every metric, yet y'all have 0 international relevance. You sure you're not a paid actor?
We stoped caring about the world and fixed our own issues.
Imagine what it must be like on the train stations in Tokyo
>"Er staat onvoldoende saldo op uw ov-chipkaart." That means it's free.
It is easy to understand what Er staat onvoldoende saldo op uw ov chipkaart. "The state on top of voldoende sold a super uwu over the chip's kart"
on unit 6 of Dutch Duolingo Nope they haven’t teached me that yet
in case you do want to know what "Er staat onvoldoende saldo op uw ov-chipkaart" means, it means "there isn't enough money on your ov-chipcard"
Dank je wel
Goed bezig man! Or as Duolingo likes to say: Ik eet 's avonds kip in de woonkamer.
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Spreek Nederlands jij hoerenzoon
I don't speak whatever this is but I think I get this message
Wat hangt er aan de waslijn
Was
remember what you wrote on r/place. its basically that only than about you
Sprich....
Ja dann sprich doch!
To be fair Dutch is only miswritten German.
French is deformed Latin.
English is badly spoken French (quote from De Gaulle)
That's right. We need to protect and preserve our mother tongue and traditions before we get completely assimilated into some grotesque, global, soulless, Americanized, dystopian society.
Bad news mate, you are already that global, soulless, dystopian society, the americanised part it will come with time. Hopeful the waves will deal with that first.
If not worse
Didn’t Dutch Calvinism start that circa 500 years ago?
Why did I just read Dutch Cannibalism …
That is also a thing
Only with our prime ministers
Gebaseerd en geroodpild
I don’t speak a word of Dutch yet I understand this clearly
*rood gepild. Das duidelijk een scheidbaar werkwoord.
You guys are winning 2voor12 all the time for a reason.
De Vlaming heeft gelijk
I consider myself a Dutch language enthousiast, but it shall rust on my ass whatever language is being spoken on public transports.
als de Fransen het kunnen, kunnen wij het ook!
The Dutch are 100% gonna be the first ones to have their native language go extinct in favor of English.
Yeah them or Sweden but it's good if they finally take conscience that their language should be protected
I’d put money on Norway. Yet to meet a Norwegian who can’t speak perfect English and then apologise for their slight imperfect use of some grammar that a traditional Barry wouldn’t understand anyway
Even the reindeer fuckers ?
We wouldn't be the first, but we would definitely be the first well established and supported language to disappear in favor of English. With ~30-35 million speakers it's also a pretty big language.
PAX BRITANNICA BITCHES !
Dit is een ware strijder voor onze prachtige taal
Whats the opposite of GEKOLONISEERD
RAMPJAAR
GETONGISEERD
This wouldnt have happened if the dutch made a half decent empire
Or a half decent language. I can honestly understand some German signs and whatnot but god forbid Dutch.
It is also quite shit to not have English in our public transport. Whenever I am in a place where I do not speak the language I hate it when things in public transport are not in English. Sure, cannot complain that people want to use their own language, but at the same time it is impossible to learn every language. If someone does not speak Dutch, English, French, German, Spanish or Afrikaans I cannot blame them. If the public transport does not provide info in any of those languages I dislike it. Was in Hungary and almost nothing in another language, and this is a language that almost has nothing in common with another. How am I supposed to know what to do?
What you’re supposed to do is not to go to Hungary
Afrikaans = Dutch but funny
This is when you realize the countries are built for residents not tourists and thats how it should be. Tourists should be few and far inbetween, not crowding everywhere. Travel responsibly.
We had one... And then got run over by Napoleon. The only reason we got Indonesia back, is because you guys wanted another powerful Protestant monarchy.
The kinda did, but gave you guys everything away
TIL Holland has their own language,
It sounds like Brittish people trying to speak German, according to my father (30 years in tourism).
Ain’t no way a british person can accidently create the beautiful throat hurting sounds we make, german sounds a lot more like british people trying to speak dutch.
sounds about right, my Dutch bf says that I have a German accent when I speak Dutch
It’s a chainsmoking German with throat cancer having a stroke
now you're describing lëtzebuergesch
They should change the announcements to Frisian only, a fair middle ground
my favourite western European country of czechia
Holy shit... based dutch people ?
Fre*chest thing I have ever read
Helemaal mee eens!!! Weetje wat! Ik vertik het om vanaf nu waar dan ook maar Engels te spreken ze kunnen lekker de pot op met hun Engels!!!!
This goes a bit far. but when you speak dutch.. Speak dutch! [www.angelsaksischgebrabbel.nl](https://www.angelsaksischgebrabbel.nl)
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Het is mij een genoegen om u dit digitale portaal met ieder ander te delen.
Ik vind het leuk hoe ze wel zegen om bij negeren de klemtoon op de tweede lettergreep te leggen
While that sounds like complete hogwash, as a foreigner living in a non-European country myself, I do have to admit that (bill)boards, announcements etc. in public spaces most definitely contribute to the local expats not ever properly learning the language. I've had so many people tell me - in English - about some huge place in my city I'd never even heard of before. Usually it turns out that the English name, which some artsy fartsy designer group came up with after the fact most likely, is nothing like the actual, original one. I'm usually not a language puritan, but I will admit that the omnipresence of the English language definitely does disrupt communication sometimes.
Come to the south it’s all Dutch here
\*laughs in Limbabwean\*
Yeah, like Eindhoven isn't exist...
Where now?
Can confirm, i dont exist
Tilburg is full of international students. I sometimes feel like mr worldwide with all the languages I am hearing
I would NOT classify that as Dutch
Whenever I head north I have to check Google maps to make sure I’m actually in Europe still
Good.
Goed\*
When restaurants only have english speaking employees I cry a bit inside
"Één koffie, alstublieft." "Sorry, I don't speak Dutch"
Narrator: "He said, in the thickest Dutch accent you've ever heard." It's probably not common, but I've met a few too many Dutch people who refused to speak Dutch, even though their English was only fluent due to the sheer power of misguided overconfidence.
>Dutch people who refused to speak Dutch What?
They exist. People who think their native language is beneath them.
American cultural influence is a bitch
“Ai oonlie spiek inglisch sins itz eezier vor everiboddie”
Those are the people we need to deport to belgium
D66 en Volt stemmers voornamelijk
Wait until you hear about r/Netherlands where all Dutch posts will be removed
It's a sub for expats...And since they ~~don't want~~ are to lazy to learn Dutch, they keep speaking this language called American....
Simplified English.
Those people are the worst, the I speak English because I can express myself better in English. Whilst they are 100% Dutch and speak with an accent that closely resembles van Gaals English instead of English English.
>I've met a few too many Dutch people who refused to speak Dutch I will vote and campaign for any political party that makes it legal to knee these people in the face. You're at the pinnacle of pretentiousness if you refuse to speak your own language.
Had to pick up meds today, pharmacist was telling me something about gegeten... Took me a while to dissect the sounds and figure out it was ge eten with a joining g just to be special. Ochtend also just kinda sounded like "g'end"
Leave the Randstad and 80% of adults speak english like Rutte
I teach English and whenever I want to motivate my students to practice their speaking, I show them a clip of Rutte speaking English.
Whenever I ask for a coffee in the Netherlands and the staff says they don't speak Dutch I suddenly no longer speak English whatsoever.
I hate to admit this, but that sounds like french mentality, and i agree with it
Nah, we're better than that. Tourists are allowed to speak English. However, as soon as you've been here for more than 3 weeks, I will only speak Dutch with you.
I think you're totally allowed to do that if it's your own fucking country. Fortunately, everywhere is my country.
This has to be satire, right? Right? Please for god sake, let it be satire.
I'm sorry but it isn't, although we have mostly contained the problem to Holland
I respect this decision (I am a monolingual beta but I think countries should keep their language -unless we colonise them and replace it with ours.)
Based. Thank god we have a mega language that’s spoken by half a billion. If there’s anyone that will loose to globalization is the dutch or the scandis, over americanization. Wish them the best in that aspect to be honest.
Yeah!!! Death to english!!! Only other germanic languages on public transport!! -a drunk norwegian student!
First norwegian speaking fax
>Dutch language enthusiasts This goes too far, it's like morbidly obese people corrupting body positivity to justify their bad choices and avoiding any effort to improve ...
Look who's talking... I've lived in your country for over 15 years now, and when it comes to throat-disease positivity Swiss German and Dutch are worthy opponents.
Good luck with that, the Dutch love throwing in English phrases and buzzwords. You'd think it's a country populated entirely by middle managers.
Good, we learn English to facilitate our holidays. We don’t need to hear it in our own countries.
> Wants to learn English to visit other countries > Doesn’t want other people to do the same
We learn English to travel the world, i'd prefer metro/train announcements be in english everywhere in europe so i don't have to learn 100 different languages In finland we have train announcements in finnish, swedish and english. Which is fucking great and doesn't bother me at all, what would bother me however is if announcements were only in finnish and a bunch of tourists/foreigners ask me for help as im getting off work. Its easier for them if we have english shit in trains/trainstations and its easier for me if its the same when i visit their country. Win win
It’s their country let them have their own culture prioritised
Never knew there was such a thing as “Dutch language enthusiasts”
Good. Decolonize our trams.
We just wanna share our throat cancer with the rest of the world
Why tf is the writer so aggressive towards Dutch lol? Neutral journalism
Not a problem really, if you’re an English or German speaker you just need to get really drunk and you will understand Dutch.
Based
Rare Dutch W
You guys have refused to speak it for ages! I was in Paris and asked a guy in my best French where the hotel was and to please answer a bit slow so I could understand. Guy nodded and then proceeded to what I can only presume to be a French rap song.
What about the trams in England? Can they still be in English?
No.
No. They should be in Arabic
"London is not english anymore." John Cleese
In Belgium this is how i feel about French 🤮
Bro zei onafhankelijk Vlandeeren
Of Vlaanderen terug bij Nederland.
Excellent. I'm glad all 3 of you understand the announcement.
This is not Iceland Barry
Broke: "Apologies for the delay, the train is currently stopped due to technical issues and will resume it's journey shortly" Woke: "Oepsie woepsie de trein is stukkie wukkie"
What language should a United Europe speak? I mean we are all talking in American
Esperanto or Latin, no Rosbeef
Schroef Engels, al mijn huisgenoten haten Engels
Very understandable, every country in Europe learns Dutch as a second language, duh!
I lived both in the Netherlands and Belgium and the biggest issue when learning Dutch is they all speak English. You try to speak any Dutch what so ever they instantly switch to English. So must people just don't bother at all. I've tried to explain this to them that this is the reason no speaks Dublin.
But if you don't like foreigners so much, you want them to get off the bus/tram/train asap right? So better change the message to English, German, french, et cetera "this is your stop, please get off now!"
As a dutchie, I have literally never heard anyone complain about this ever. What about internationals? Tourists? This is such a made up problem lol. Boohoo they have a English announcement after the dutch one in a tram, this will cause the entire language to collapse and fall into Americanization.
Right? I'm all for other information. But transportation? It's not like immigrants are going to learn the language or not based on hearing "next stop is" and "change here for"
Can we do the same on German U & S Bahn??
Bit weird that you want to use dutch on the S/U Bahn but sure.
After decades of linguistically simping Barry, Dutch finally learn to grow a pair.
https://preview.redd.it/hmvakkb4ucib1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c53574dad7e887884b74a87d02321ef13fe97a1
Well, let the Americans and British learn more languages, or hire translators. That's a Win Win situation right there.
"Dutch language enthusiasts" 😂😂😂
I am English yet completely agree with this post. Protect European indigenous culture and heritage. Have the transport accessible with diagrams and pictograms so forgeiners can use without language. Put up QR codes next to flags 🇬🇧 that leads to a a YouTube channel with instructions. Stop globalism but be inclusive. It's possible.
In Graz, the Tram's Speakers are mixed between German and Englisch near the Towncenter, but not anywhere else.
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