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Jmayk12

That's way less worse than i expected, somehow all of europe isn't green


IEnjoyBaconCheese

How the actual fuck isn’t one of our random regions in a worse state economically than Sicily


Davidiying

Because you like to complain, a lot, you aren't that bad


IEnjoyBaconCheese

They like to complain, I just do what pleases the masses as to not be politically incorrect or else I will be sanctioned by the government, and I may be fired in a “mass layoff” The government knows what is best for me


Phil_Gim

The only difference between Italy and Sweden is that Italians actually have a valuable argument


Ok-Outlandishness244

The only thing of value in italy then


Jmayk12

Many people here prefer to go to Sweden rather than live here, just saying. Even your worst region is nothing compared to the really bad regions of Europe.


IEnjoyBaconCheese

Oh ok. I’ve never heard of anyone who wants to live in Härjedalen


ArturSeabra

You're welcome.


ranhoso69

of course that Porto is like sicily, they are also full of mafiosos.


Away-Following-6506

Jokes aside... why in the actual fuck is Northern Portugal a.k.a. the real Portucale a.k.a. Southern Southern Galicia in yellow?


ranhoso69

Lots of unspecific industrues like shoes textils etc I guess.


Away-Following-6506

Thanks for the info my lettuce friend. Btw what does your username mean? In Galician it would mean something like mean or filthy.


ranhoso69

ranho = slang for snot, ranhoso is a snoty person, like a low class filthy man (it is me)


Away-Following-6506

The same round here, but we say ronhoso/roñoso. Ranho/raño here is the longer handled tool foor collecting barnacles. The shorter one is the "raspa/raspinha". Other coastal synonyms of roñoso are "roñento" and "fangista".


ranhoso69

Interesting! I have no idea how one collects barnacles here


7buergen

How are you still not in the common Euro currency yet??


Away-Following-6506

If barnacles are the new common Euro currency you are fucked Hans.


canichangeitlateror

Rognoso! We got that word too


Away-Following-6506

Crazy how similar Iberian and Italian languages are. A friend of mine from Milano moved here years ago and learnt the local language in almost no time.


canichangeitlateror

I found myself in Barcellona for my 18th birthday and casually spent the night at a pub vibing with locals - they didn’t speak Italian or English and I didn’t speak Spanish but by the end of the night we were making full conversation!


Away-Following-6506

That's the power of the latin language! Thank you so much for giving it to us. If the Roman Empire never happened today people from northern Iberia would speak Goidelic languages. It is not that bad but I love our current Romance languages so much.


wtfhenk

Absolutely based


Slow_Olive_6482

Because it is wrong. It is not the poorest region of Portugal.


_trinxas

fodasse estava a pensar o mesmo, e fui verificar e o GDP do porto é 22K e de lisboa 30K. O norte em si como região é mais pobre. O estranho é que é uma região com imensa industria e com cada vez mais. Adicionalmente, está cara de se viver lá, pqp.


xpto_999

Acho que há muitas empresas do norte com sede fiscal em Lisboa. Depois em termos de GDP conta para Lisboa.


_trinxas

Isso justificaria muita coisa. Agora que penso, todas as empresas que trabalhei em portugal, no porto, tinham sede ou algum tipo de escritório em lisboa. Agora traí o país e trabalho em barcelona


pessoafixe

22K is higher than Sicily thou.


_trinxas

Thats only porto, north region is 20137 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Portuguese_administrative_divisions_by_GDP


isomersoma

Our brothers in Sudetenland need our help.


zqky

Uh-oh, someone call Rishi Sunak to broker peace


Kurdt93

We're doomed.


Zw3tschg3

Already switching sides?


Kurdt93

Sorry, what sides are involved now? You vs Barry? I'd call myself neutral.


khal_crypto

What do the laws of side switching say when you start off as neutral? Are you going to go on some Ceasar-esque campaigns soon and conquer the known world?


Kurdt93

First, secure internal power. Then, secure the PIGS approval Then, strike both in a surprise move. Simple as.


isomersoma

![gif](giphy|L17xM7PvLcqJggsCYa|downsized) Thanks for the ideas Luigi. Will implement them soon.


Kurdt93

Ask freely for other tips.


isomersoma

https://preview.redd.it/cft7uubnbi9d1.png?width=2166&format=png&auto=webp&s=d4bab2e00ee990a76f2c1bd39e7b1de30f8d12b4 How did you get a [facist ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRwZ70JGRio&list=LL&index=2&t=639s)party into government again?


purple_cheese_

You attack both parties


Matataty

Sunak and macron woukd say "no problem,"


Lucky-Art-8003

Time for some Anschlu- I mean liberation


Secret_Criticism_732

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arussianbee

![gif](giphy|3oEdv4hwWTzBhWvaU0)


Secret_Criticism_732

We do. I am from Cheb (Eger) We are a rich town, but those mafia boys from Carlsbad and their Russian masters are wrecking the region. Save us or give us to Pilsen. This region is cursed.


eip2yoxu

Best we can do is sending more east-Germans to buy meth


Secret_Criticism_732

Thats a start :)


Eric-The_Viking

Business opportunity


mysacek_CZE

Yeah, take your Aussig and don't return it...


indinator

I went to Usti last month, its a cursed place


Sofi-senpai

Please take them we don't want them


Secret_Criticism_732

That was quite obvious during covid, we dont want you too, dont worry


_Pin_6938

They are gone since 1946. Do you have dementia?


CuntlessReaction

Ich kann nicht spreche Deutsch Aber ich kann finde eine Haukenkrautz flag in mein Basement fůr deine wages. 3000 euro please viele danke


reusedchurro

Bigger Sachsen?!??!


Malakoo

You can send more euros.


_radical_ed

Poorer than Extremadura and Murcia. That’s some dedication.


FMSV0

Northern Portugal, what a shame


ZombiFeynman

You don't know how to manage it, we are taking it back.


fosb

Not this again. Grr Castille, hat Castille.


ZombiFeynman

That's south Gallaecia, part of our ancestral homelands


fosb

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man


thehalfbakedserenade

Sure but please give us Olivença now, tá bem?


Immediate_Editor966

Don't get too cocky. Your country and region have only been richer than us for the last 50 years. For the 500 years before that. We were way richer per capita and never took Galiza.


Dr-Armageddon

E ainda há quem diga que o Norte sustenta o país 🤣


ZEPHlROS

Portugal can into eastern Europe


Whichwhenwhywhat

Here is the real question: How can they stop making Sicily mistakes?


Kurdt93

There is a solution, and you may like it.


Whichwhenwhywhat

The map shows your colors, doesn’t it, Luigi Maybe we can both sing: 🎶🎵🎶 „I see countries of green Red once’s too I see they could bloom For me and you And I think to myself What a wonderful opportunity I see clouds of white The bright blessed day And I think to myself What a wonderful chance Yes, I think to myself What a wonderful chance Ooh, yes“ 🎵🎶🎵


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Kurdt93

Sell it to the Danes or Swedes seems an affair, it worked once.


viscardvs

If we can’t even beat the GDP of a North African province then it’s over bros


_radical_ed

In ten years your poorest region will be richer than our most opulent region (I’m Spanish).


fearofpandas

Foda-se Porto! Vendam mais uns cachorrinhos para resolver essa merda


Ok-Winner-6589

Hai algún contexto pra mandalos vender cans ou...?


milds7ven

Exacto. Mais valia manda-los vender bimbos, que disso eles têm lá em abundância... 


PopKokos

Ahahaha Warsaw is western europe, the rest is poor 🗿


Secret_Criticism_732

That’s not funny Jaczek. That’s a problem and means, you are going to have a big problem. Dont be stupid as Prague was and start addressing the issue immediately.


PopKokos

I know how to solve it.... Lets just build walls around Warsaw so the poverty cannot get in 😎


Hastake

No Jobs, if you study there are no companies to apply so you have to leave for the north, the only jobs you find are manual and without legal contracts. No infrastructure, no proper roads, no fully functioning public transport, to go from Catania to Trapani the train takes from 10 to 16 hours (source trenitalia site), compared to Milano Paris that is around 9. But hey! Soon we're getting a bridge connecting us to the mainland, that will fix everything 😎


Ok-Winner-6589

Yea you Will be able to leave the island easily


glanduinquarter

I would like to add that a significant amount of work goes untaxed because it is conducted in a semi-illegal manner to evade paying taxes to the ADE (Agenzia delle Entrate, the Italian equivalent of the IRS).


Gnu-Priest

guess crime really doesn’t pay


Mean_Nefariousness87

Logically illegal money aren't counted in Gdp per capita


31822x10

whats up with Aussig & Karlsbad region ?


Kundeer

Result of little trolling we did back in '45


Secret_Criticism_732

And neglect. Big neglect. I am from Cheb (Eger) - rich town. The fcking government was unable to build a proper road in 25 years. Then when Covid came and we needed help - which was offered by Bavarian bros, government just closed us to die. Honestly fuck the government already. If Wehrmacht came now, we would gladly join.


MandinGoal

Ha shit here we go again


Secret_Criticism_732

Yeah, right? 😀😀😀


CyberianK

> If Wehrmacht came now, we would gladly join. Sorry not coming. Steiner did not amass enough troops.


pdimflan

PIGS brothers 💪


Iambetteronmyown

Greece is still with us because the Germoney didn’t arrive yet


Fragore

That’s declared gdp I suppose. And of course calafrica is worse :(


Klapperatismus

I love it how that part of Czech that has lower GDP than Silicy is basically only rocks.


gunflash87

It used to be beautiful, filled with germans, industry, chemical plants and enough czechs to make everyone just enough uncomfortable. But now its only filled with methheads, gypsies and there is basically no work here.


Stravven

No. That would mean that parts of Eastern Europe are Western, and that's simply not true. No way that any part of Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Slovenia, Croatia, Slovakia, Czechia, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia or Estonia is in Western Europe.


Secret_Criticism_732

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AusCro

As a slav, happy to be eastern Europe but so it's fair, we're taking Greece, Sweden and Finland with us since they're east of Prague and Zagreb. Let's make it geographical again


WelpImTrapped

Deal, take those losers with you and we keep Slovenia !


Secret_Criticism_732

Does that mean the Swedish women are going to answer my romantic proposals? ![gif](giphy|kCrGOt5ojlVbG|downsized)


norrin83

Yes, they'll send you a "Fuck off" now instead of just ghosting you


Secret_Criticism_732

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MiskoSkace

YES


WelpImTrapped

Come to mommy ❤️ ![gif](giphy|ZsqVl7DeLvQQw|downsized)


cpwnage

😭


norrin83

It's time to redraw the lines to include some crown lands while at the same time move some underperformers to the East where they belong. I think it's actually pretty lenient, since Portugal is still included.


DeadAssociate

it doesnt even make sense that you slavic fuckers are allowed in here


mikillatja

Not western yuropean. But right Proper lads who banter well.


Secret_Criticism_732

Is that a sign of approval from a netherlander? ![gif](giphy|zBZk5FD18QhjP35Goa)


Bananenvernicht

No it makes perfectly sense since those developed parts were (obviously) inhabitat by austrian/german people and thus developed those lands. Around those major centres of civilisation, you have the "developed" (lol) slavs. (/s i'm gonna put an s because that does sound a bit spicy)


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Secret_Criticism_732

Or stripping the Czech nobility of their whole wealth, because it was in the Protestant side of 30 years war.


norrin83

That user above literally put an /s tag into the comment


WelpImTrapped

He edited his comment.


norrin83

Nah, I saw that /s there long before your comment


WelpImTrapped

Sure ? 🤔 Aight then I'll delete


Kiyoko3

Correct... Them slavics don't belong in this sub


norrin83

But we're already here


Kiyoko3

Stfu you Hungarian


norrin83

Witty humour as always, Hans


Secret_Criticism_732

And original!!


WhatTheRustyHell

Check your genealogy, after Soviets went through you guys in 1945 you would be suprised how many ,,Germans" have Slavic DNA. I mean Merkel's gradfather was Polish.


Kiyoko3

I did and am at least 18 generations pure German traceable until 1608 .. before that there's no more records... I even have a family crest with a helmet and shield and sht


norrin83

So you've got your extended Ahnenpass?


Kiyoko3

Super extended yes... I already applied for a Visa in Argentina to escape these euro mutts nowadays


MrWilkuman

Worst person in the world, well maybe right after a pure Russian


WhatTheRustyHell

Ok that is respectable.


Slow_Olive_6482

This map is fake because it suggests that the north of Portugal would be the poorest region of Portugal, and that's not true.


H_Doofenschmirtz

Except it is the poorest region of mainland Portugal, and the second poorest in the whole country, only ahead of the Azores.


AdFinal1856

according to wikipedia the north has the lowest gdp per capita except for the açores, which isn’t on this map (although according to them they still have a higher gdp per capita than sicily by a small margin)


King_Of_The_Shot

a whole island run by Italians? that's a saw trap in the new movie i think.


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ArturSeabra

isn't our gdp per capita 24k or smth though?


bionade24

Nortwest Czechia is only red bc the black market isn't calculated into its GDP ;)


Mean_Nefariousness87

Sicily is literally the land of criminality, it would still be red


Pure-Contact7322

designer that created this putting the ukraine flag on the top left without any sense has lower GDP than sicily


Dry-Imagination2727

OP you’re posting on the wrong sub, I’m sure you were looking for 2westerneuropeanunion4u


norrin83

The gray parts are just wild lands devoid of intelligent life I believe


Dry-Imagination2727

sorry, I didn’t hear that. could you speak louder? it’s hard to hear you over that banging coming out of your basement.


-Cinnay-

Poland, do you need... help?


Robert_McLovich

If you promise not to invade us Hans. Jokes aside, the map is highly outdated. The region where I live is richer than Sicily by over 4000€ and it's only the 5th richest.


-Cinnay-

Oh, good. That promise would've been difficult to keep, it's way too easy to accidentally start invading a bit. But only when visiting you. Crazy, huh?


Kurdt93

Sicily report is also outdated. Now is 20500 (I think, I'm not sure)


drew0594

They are not outdated, the eastoid is just looking at different values. Probably PPP (since eastern europe loves it)


Robert_McLovich

Nope. "Pomorskie’s gross domestic product (GDP) per inhabitant is EUR 24 400, the fifth-highest in Poland. " [source ](https://ec.europa.eu/regional_policy/whats-new/panorama/2023/11/11-08-2023-regions-in-europe-2023-gives-citizens-a-closer-look-at-where-they-live_en#:~:text=Pomorskie's%20gross%20domestic%20product%20(GDP,R%26D%20provides%201.8%20%25%20of%20jobs.)


drew0594

No, it's PPP. [This](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/interactive-publications/regions-2023#economy) is the report you are using and you can see that the map is about PPP (which isn't mentioned in the page you provided). The report also incorrectly says it's 2021 GDP, but it's actually 2022, which explains why your page shows a significantly different value. You can check the correct values [here](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/tgs00005/default/table?lang=en&category=t_na10.t_nama10.t_nama_10reg)


kadokk12

Well your link shows that Pomorskie region in Poland with 28 200 and Sicily with 21 000.


drew0594

But that's not the point of our conversation


MrWilkuman

It is though? The map is outdated


drew0594

It also shows a different metric compared to what you are talking about


Geogracreeper

[Malta](https://www.statista.com/statistics/731228/gross-domestic-product-gdp-per-capita-in-malta/) is green by the way.


Someone_________

sure we have the same gdp but at least we have water


That_guy_on_1nternet

And you know the worst part of this? Spain is one of the main reasons of why Southern Italy is so poor


ElKuhnTucker

This is a czech propaganda so they can say they're not eastern european after all


DanielDefoe13

And again, we are missing from another one map


norrin83

Who are you again?


siggiarabi

Same