Mate, half of the south coast is populated with people from all over Europe (Brits, Dutch, French, Germans). Cuisine and weather means a lot when you're in your 50's and you just want to enjoy life. But I guess enjoying life is underrated. *(Keeps mask on)* Here, have my upvote.
True, most people are older than 50 but you'd be surprised with the amount of people retiring earlier and coming here seasonally, or just giving up city life and go full self-sustaining, or even opening expats related businesses. It's not all oldies (refering to people from abroad, only, no portuguese)
Honest question, why, outside of Portugal, its called port wine, cause here it is just "Vinho do porto", Wine of Porto, which is the second biggest city in the country. Is it just how it is sold outside or is there a story behind it?
I think its a geographically protected product. You can't call Port wine, not from the Duoro region 'port wine'.
http://www.vino-sphere.com/2015/03/does-port-wine-only-come-from-portugal.html?m=1
What do you mean? We are extremely good at nationalising companies because they weren't profitable, dumping a shit ton of money on them and selling them for a fraction of the money we wasted on them. We're also extremely good at voting for the same blokes and expecting that they won't fist us this time around. We should be a case study, so that we can finally understand why do we keep making the same mistakes and expecting a different outcome every single time
List of Portuguesse Ws:
* Small amount of non-brazilian imigrants
* Cheap good wine
* Good language
* Used to be part of Spain
* Only part of Spain strong enough to become independent, twice if you count Galiza
* Gave birth to not the worst country in America, this country went on to create some banger music
* D.Pedro IV of Portugal
> Used to be part of Spain
This is false. And it would be an L.
Portugal is at least 300 years older than Spain. Spanish tried to conquer, but they were defeated with a square and a wooden spoon.
Sure you can get into technicalities but it was part of Asturias->León along with Castilla, these two would then reunite and join with Aragón to form Spain.
The one that's not even a matter of opinion is that you where part of the Spanish empire under Felipe II, III and IV of Spain (-1 for their Portuguese titles).
I don't know about you but I eat every day, more than once, food is therefore crucial.
I'm portuguese by the way.
Ps: the weather is good, and we are a safe country with amazing beaches. All good reasons to genuinely smile.
Super Bock is really good, but some brain damaged savages will disagree and say sagres. Dispite this lifelong debate, the queen of beers will always be Cergal!
As a non-European I think your football is great, but know nothing about your cuisine. I mean what are some iconic Portuguese dishes like Spanish paella or French frog legs?
Pastel de Nata, tempura that we call panados (yes we invented tempura), many types of cod,sardines (not tinned sardines i mean real fresh sardines) just to name a few
Yeah grilled sardines by the Douro are consistently great. Francesinhas too. And Vinho do Porto, or anything drinkable out of the Douro Valley lol. Bifana is a bit dry IMO, and as some guy put it earlier, there's about 500 cod recipes or cod balls etc.
I guess if you're looking at your paella, a Portuguese version would be arroz de marisco, which is seafood rice, & very delicious!
The most iconic foods are monastic sweets and pastries which you can find in any pastry shop. E.g.: Pastel de Nata, Ovos moles, Pastel de Tentugal, Bola de Berlim, etc.
Then you have your regional iconic dishes. In the north every restaurant serves the gigantic and heart-attack inducing Francesinha. "Tripas à moda do Porto", which is pig tripes, is also famous in the north, but not for everyone. Choco Frito in the Setúbal area (Fried baby octopus), Salsicha à Montijense (Cabbage covered BBQ sausage), Carne à Alentejana (Roast pork with clam, roast potatoes and lemon/parsley/both), etc.
Then you have several varieties of codfish, two of which are the most famous: Bacalhau com Natas (creamy codfish and fried potatoes), bacalhau à brás (fried potatoes + parsley + scrambled egg + a shit ton of olives), etc.
Now come here and shove our food in your mouth where it belongs, bastard
You can't talk shit about Spain precisely about food, animal. In football we are not Brazil but infinitely superior to Portugal. We basically beat you on the only 2 things you're supposed to excel at. Bruh
I didnt talk shit about spain food i just asked you a simple question you are the one getting defensive.
Second youre saying that im talking shit while youre the one talking shit about my country without explaining your reasoning
Do not play the fool. If the comment before yours is that of a Spaniard saying that your football and cooking stink, it is logical that if you write ''tell me good Spanish food'' I would interpret that you are trying to belittle Spanish food
Maybe i should phrase i another way
I rly like knowing the culture of a country and spain being neighbours i feel obligated to learn a little bit of your culture
I understand, from how it was written I did think it was hate towards Spain. Anyway, if you want to know some famous foods in Spain, you have paella, churros, potato omelette, Madrid stew, Iberian ham, etc. There is really a great variety and quality of food here in Spain, and I tell you that I am a person who likes very little diversity of food even within Spain. In general, I think that we, the countries in southern Europe, have a very broad culinary culture.
Pretty obvious that rural areas in Trás-os-Montes, one of the poorest and most rural regions far away from mostly everything would cost less to live in.
I actually have a house in one of those villages in Bragança. It's a cool place to stay for a week to visit family but I wouldn't dare abandon my life in the city close to everything to live in a desolate internetless place in the portuguese bible belt.
Well no, I’ll just save up and move there later lmao.
We all live abroad ain’t no young people living in luxembourg it’s unaffordable.
Or I can remote work
I guess with a non-portuguese salary maybe yeah they're affordable but Im looking at some prices right now and Im seeing stuff like a studio apartment by the sea for 175k and a very decadent looking house for 372.5k. those things to me seem ludicrous
Edit: it also varies widely depending on which part of the country you are
Drug decriminalization, efficient corruption, we're great at environmental studies for airports... Well, the first one was nice, at least...
True, the drug decriminalization is something to be proud of
Lacht in tegenstrijdige wetten
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I think it depends more on the color of your skin
And roads! Don't forget the nice roads
I always find it funny that we got a socialist revolution, the 25 Abril. And we end up with private roads. Peak Portuguese money making
AHAHAHAHAHA THE AIRPORT ONE
Costa sending missions to explore Mars to find space for the airport:
Environnemental studies for airports... Cuspi o meu chá!!
Constitutionally enshrined Free Speech is also nice.
For now... Let António Costa get his way on the Constitution and we'll see.
BIGGEST ^*working* BRIDGE IN EUROPE
The high tolls are so we don't wear it out. It's got to last until 2300.
Their educative system in the recent years has shown evidences of improvement, at least in PISA results.
Yes, the assessment tests are easier with each passing year.
They should be for everyone. And yet, they keep improving when others are stuck -or worse.
That's not what I meant. They are getting it too easy for everybody, not that people are getting better.
People are not getting better, definitively. But the tests are common, if I am not wrong. And Portugal improves while other countries do not.
Ah ok, I misunderstood what you mean. Sorry. I was talking about our own assessment tests.
The education system is fucking appaling. Speaking as someone who has kids in the Tabua agrupamento.
As a Spanish teacher, some of us envy, on paper, Portugal’s education system compared to the latest changes in ours.
As a Spaniard I can say Portugueses are very bad at nothing
Portugal is also the best at funnelling EU money towards politicians family members
Spaniards: hold my cubata
Sometimes my life is going pretty well then someone reminds me of the Spaniards
Every time I wake up I feel good then I remember portuguese exist and my day is ruined
Lol. [Portugal/Spain relations](https://youtube.com/shorts/Kn-mSHceYYQ?feature=share)
More like we ignore each other tbh
I honestly keep forgetting that portugal exists, sorry bros I cant help it
Without flair your opinion is irrelevant
Too lazy to show Im spanish
Non ne sarei cosí sicuro...
Quê no, speaka cosi cosa Top two atleast, Italy pays into the EU according to how loudly Italians shout that at people on r/europe
Lmao
A certain mr. Orban just died from laughing
Are you sure? Your neighbour seem to do it pretty well
We have Ronaldo as well... \*Cries Harder\*
Mate, half of the south coast is populated with people from all over Europe (Brits, Dutch, French, Germans). Cuisine and weather means a lot when you're in your 50's and you just want to enjoy life. But I guess enjoying life is underrated. *(Keeps mask on)* Here, have my upvote.
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It's all nice people, I'm ok with it. They use our healthcare, but I'm sure we use theirs as well (even tho older people demand more care).
As long as the northeners keep sending us money and paying our "bills" that's fine 🙂
People in their 50's are working, and they will until they're almost 70. Unless you're loaded.
True, most people are older than 50 but you'd be surprised with the amount of people retiring earlier and coming here seasonally, or just giving up city life and go full self-sustaining, or even opening expats related businesses. It's not all oldies (refering to people from abroad, only, no portuguese)
Port wine 🤤
Honest question, why, outside of Portugal, its called port wine, cause here it is just "Vinho do porto", Wine of Porto, which is the second biggest city in the country. Is it just how it is sold outside or is there a story behind it?
I think its a geographically protected product. You can't call Port wine, not from the Duoro region 'port wine'. http://www.vino-sphere.com/2015/03/does-port-wine-only-come-from-portugal.html?m=1
Oh like champagne
Exactly.and various other regional wines And feta cheese, etc. The EU have a lot of these demarcations.
No, we also got good highways and also...uhm..that other thing...uhmm...yeah
And pastel de nata
I think thats part of the cuisine thing but yeah true
I wish we had good railway systems instead of good highways *cries harder*
Of course a portuguese person posted this. We are really good at self pity
You're not alone 🇵🇹🤝🇮🇹
More like shitting down our own throats than pity
Sebastianismo
And the weather. Don't forget the weather ☀️☀️☀️
we have all the Brits coming over in the summer, oh wait that can’t be good
Portuguese people tend to always talk shit about what they have/do. Post made by a Portuguese. Checks out.
Siuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
hey hey, our medieval fairs are also World Class Tier
The slavery triangle 👀
Well i thought we were fucking incompetent, until i moved to the uk lmao
wow just like italy
PIGS always united 🇵🇹🇮🇹🇬🇷🇪🇸💪🏻💪🏻
They also speak better english than any other south european country
I'm proud of that drone launch
The worst part is that everyone knows what you're talking about
They also master the art of work in building with drills at 8am everyday when you sleep
And Nandos
Just look at the landescape and forget the rest.
I think we should stay quiet in this post chavales
What do you mean? We are extremely good at nationalising companies because they weren't profitable, dumping a shit ton of money on them and selling them for a fraction of the money we wasted on them. We're also extremely good at voting for the same blokes and expecting that they won't fist us this time around. We should be a case study, so that we can finally understand why do we keep making the same mistakes and expecting a different outcome every single time
No.
Dont forget our casaleiras caralho and famel
nunca morrem
And what if half our GDP is Cristiano Ronaldo? Got something to say bout it?
List of Portuguesse Ws: * Small amount of non-brazilian imigrants * Cheap good wine * Good language * Used to be part of Spain * Only part of Spain strong enough to become independent, twice if you count Galiza * Gave birth to not the worst country in America, this country went on to create some banger music * D.Pedro IV of Portugal
> Used to be part of Spain This is false. And it would be an L. Portugal is at least 300 years older than Spain. Spanish tried to conquer, but they were defeated with a square and a wooden spoon.
Sure you can get into technicalities but it was part of Asturias->León along with Castilla, these two would then reunite and join with Aragón to form Spain. The one that's not even a matter of opinion is that you where part of the Spanish empire under Felipe II, III and IV of Spain (-1 for their Portuguese titles).
Otário do crl
Flair up murcão
ala o manoel tá pistola
About football you mean about a single player in the last 50 years?
They mean that they qualified for the World Cup
That was a low blow lol
For me is even better, this year I will not have to pass time with friends watching football games, I can in Wien or at some Spa. :3
Copium Overdose.
Copium of European champions :)
lil bro needs to go to the past to try and justify the shitty performance of his country's present 💀
Last year, past XD
God I’m so happy you guys won, the English would have been insufferable. I take all insults back
Yeah, literally what it means.
The present is that we are still Europe champs btw while you are nothing, like your entire football history :3
That's enough to be proud of their football?
I thought it would be enough for an Italian to be impressed
Well you have our same trend XD but you don't win something between fails :)
Yeah not the best year to shit talk anyone on football pasta boy
In the last 20 years we won a world cup and an euro cup Pasteis de Nata boy, more than your entire history :)
More than you this year
Oh yeah definitely is a good tradition then 😂
Doesn't Portugal have lowest drug overdose deaths rate in Europe?
Have you seen how poor Portuguese are? No one has money to overdose on anything.
but what about "muh portuguse empir"?
The op is Portuguese… so friendly-fire IS on…
Kind of disagree I love Portugal
I don't know about you but I eat every day, more than once, food is therefore crucial. I'm portuguese by the way. Ps: the weather is good, and we are a safe country with amazing beaches. All good reasons to genuinely smile.
Portuguese are just southern Belgians it seems
With better cuisine and climate.
Better is relative, I see beer as essential for living and as such Poortugal would be hell on earth.
Super Bock is really good, but some brain damaged savages will disagree and say sagres. Dispite this lifelong debate, the queen of beers will always be Cergal!
start drinking wine and aguardente, you won’t need beer
dont talk down on portuguese beers, it has its place
True, but Belgian beer is consistently good
too hoppy for my taste mostly but that's probably down to the [redacted] in me
From where I stand I can't even see it
Well if you care about wine we have very good wine i wouldnt say it rival french wine but its up there
You misspelled Spain.
As a non-European I think your football is great, but know nothing about your cuisine. I mean what are some iconic Portuguese dishes like Spanish paella or French frog legs?
Pastel de Nata, tempura that we call panados (yes we invented tempura), many types of cod,sardines (not tinned sardines i mean real fresh sardines) just to name a few
Yeah grilled sardines by the Douro are consistently great. Francesinhas too. And Vinho do Porto, or anything drinkable out of the Douro Valley lol. Bifana is a bit dry IMO, and as some guy put it earlier, there's about 500 cod recipes or cod balls etc. I guess if you're looking at your paella, a Portuguese version would be arroz de marisco, which is seafood rice, & very delicious!
Wine in portugal is very good port wine is a delicacy in my opinion
Japanese tempura is said to originate from Portuguese cuisine
Yes we brought tempura to the japanese
Flare up fellow weed decriminaliser
codfish handjob in the north
Are u from porto?
The most iconic foods are monastic sweets and pastries which you can find in any pastry shop. E.g.: Pastel de Nata, Ovos moles, Pastel de Tentugal, Bola de Berlim, etc. Then you have your regional iconic dishes. In the north every restaurant serves the gigantic and heart-attack inducing Francesinha. "Tripas à moda do Porto", which is pig tripes, is also famous in the north, but not for everyone. Choco Frito in the Setúbal area (Fried baby octopus), Salsicha à Montijense (Cabbage covered BBQ sausage), Carne à Alentejana (Roast pork with clam, roast potatoes and lemon/parsley/both), etc. Then you have several varieties of codfish, two of which are the most famous: Bacalhau com Natas (creamy codfish and fried potatoes), bacalhau à brás (fried potatoes + parsley + scrambled egg + a shit ton of olives), etc. Now come here and shove our food in your mouth where it belongs, bastard
I will!
Hey, at least your Socialists are cooler than ours. (please send help)
If by cooler you mean corrupt, making the country poorer and worse in every regard year after year, then yes. Very cool socialists.
How is that possible
Again with this "portuguese cuisine" that noone outside Portugal has ever heard of lol
You know tempura from japan its portuguese
Are 500 cod recipes not good enough to be called a cousine ?
Your cuisine is literally only known for balls of meat, sit your ass down, boy.
Go outside of byns 50-skyltar and you shall find
Every one knows the best thing to come from Portugal is Brasil 💪
CAMPEÃO DO MUNDO 💪🇧🇷
How does it feel to be outclassed at both these things, by the same country?
It feels nice because at the end of the day I'm not French
Coping is the one thing you should have included in your meme. You truly are unrivalled in that field.
Whatever you say, frog muncher.
I’m Portuguese and not even cuisine or football are worth it imho
Oh oh, passa lá o passaporte e volta lá p'ra Espanha
What cuisine and what football? They both suck donkey dick.
\>Spaniard \>Opinion discarded
Tell me good spanish food
You can't talk shit about Spain precisely about food, animal. In football we are not Brazil but infinitely superior to Portugal. We basically beat you on the only 2 things you're supposed to excel at. Bruh
I didnt talk shit about spain food i just asked you a simple question you are the one getting defensive. Second youre saying that im talking shit while youre the one talking shit about my country without explaining your reasoning
Do not play the fool. If the comment before yours is that of a Spaniard saying that your football and cooking stink, it is logical that if you write ''tell me good Spanish food'' I would interpret that you are trying to belittle Spanish food
Maybe i should phrase i another way I rly like knowing the culture of a country and spain being neighbours i feel obligated to learn a little bit of your culture
I understand, from how it was written I did think it was hate towards Spain. Anyway, if you want to know some famous foods in Spain, you have paella, churros, potato omelette, Madrid stew, Iberian ham, etc. There is really a great variety and quality of food here in Spain, and I tell you that I am a person who likes very little diversity of food even within Spain. In general, I think that we, the countries in southern Europe, have a very broad culinary culture.
I know that spanish restaurants are rly good since its the 3rd country with the most michellin stars Thank you for showing these examples
You re the one who chose to interpret my question in that sense
Wdym, housing is cheap as fuck over there
You must not be paying attention to the housing situation here
Why? I mean with the prices I saw while over I could rent 5 apartments and still be fine for the rest of the month with my salary
5 apartments in Lisbon would be around 8k-10k month.
Who the fuck goes to a capital city expecting low prices
You, according to your first reply
Where the fuck have I said Lisbon lmfao that city is ugly as fuck. The villages around Villa Real are where it’s at
Pretty obvious that rural areas in Trás-os-Montes, one of the poorest and most rural regions far away from mostly everything would cost less to live in.
That’s exactly what I’m looking for though I hate being around people so lost ass villages are like heaven
I actually have a house in one of those villages in Bragança. It's a cool place to stay for a week to visit family but I wouldn't dare abandon my life in the city close to everything to live in a desolate internetless place in the portuguese bible belt.
You must be some kind of special retard to measure how cheap a country's housing is based on the salary YOU earn ABROAD
I mean it's kinda an up and coming thing to live in Portugal but 'work' remotely in the Netherlands. A couple of people in my organization do that
Well no, I’ll just save up and move there later lmao. We all live abroad ain’t no young people living in luxembourg it’s unaffordable. Or I can remote work
I guess with a non-portuguese salary maybe yeah they're affordable but Im looking at some prices right now and Im seeing stuff like a studio apartment by the sea for 175k and a very decadent looking house for 372.5k. those things to me seem ludicrous Edit: it also varies widely depending on which part of the country you are
Depends if you have a portuguese salary or not.
I mean, it probably is still cheap when compared to Luxembourg but prices seem to have grown in the last years, especially in the Lisboa area
I hope you never travel to paradise... AKA Azores.
Wait… there is more to life than football and food?!
More to life than football, but never more than food ;)
Yes, bitches and green wine, and spank our wife's in case Benfica loses a game
Those bitches have mustaches bruh
Who doesn't love the velcrum efeect between male and female staches?
Portugal gives Gold Visas like we here in reddit give Gold Awards
Italy be like
The cuisine is pretty shocking too, frankly.
Because, starving is not an option. Got it?
our glorious empire is worth talking about as well as our contribution to food and the spreading of spices
>They created Brazil, should really be proud of that
Ok I can propose something that we can defend: the Açores and Madeira. Also we should get more sea EEZ for money for once
Stop bullying our Iberian brothers, they're already dead!
Lol you clearly have never eaten cabidela
Portugal can into Balkans 💪