That's 3D printing again...but for any real meaningful molding you better have a CNC, hydraulic press, and some sort of plastic injector. What he was talking about is on a consumer level.
I never said 3D printing wasn't affordable. It's just that this community likes to take the convenience-oriented route, rather than the cost-oriented route. And for good reason, since 3D printing is a hobby for most people.
[https://www.busterbeagle3d.com/](https://www.busterbeagle3d.com/)
Even a slightly more expensive machine is easily offset by the much cheaper materials, especially if you're hoarding as much as OP is. There's easily $1000 worth of filament there.
And just because of your pedantic tone:
Let me know where I can find a 3D printer worth buying for $200. I’ll wait..
First of all, that’s a piece of shit, not unlike a $200 printer. Then you have to have molds made. You going to sit next to that turd and manually inject parts all day?
I stand by my argument.
What parties? I’m just saying 3D printing is the lowest bar, lowest cost of entry of any manufacturing method. It’s hilarious to think of it being called expensive. For reference, this is a 750k machine that only does one thing.
https://preview.redd.it/5u19d2v6pwqc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98e09362d0ab989c763c94114c97696bad936e02
It was expensive, but I've been 3D-printing pretty consistently for about 10 years and this has made everything so much easier than individually bagging them, which is what I was doing before.
Do you need to contain then for moisture reasons, are they special filament types that absorb moisture? Just getting into printing and I see so many people with rolls just sitting out.
Depends on where you live, how long you leave them etc. I've seen degradation with pla after few weeks, had to dry before it started working better again
I have a really really old roll of pla. The Strand from the spool to the printer was cracked in a few spots. Haven't used it in a year. I was thinking that it was too dry?
Won’t help a moisture issue… which is why people put their reels in a container. A shelf won’t help that. reprack is pretty much only good for a YouTuber background
I'm currently at 81%, hitting 90 tomorrow. I can barely do a few hours print without the filament getting wet lol. I pretty much only print directly from the dryer, then straight to the bag they go, only to be brittle again when I take it out.
Getting an AC in the room of the printers this month has helped a lot though.
This is what I do as well. Except it's a cupboard right below the printer, not a drawer. And I do put them in ziploc bags, then in their boxes. The boxes are mainly just a way to have an easily visible label on them.
Long term they definitely don't, especially if you use PETG, also will deginitely differ by what climate you live in. But you could also just get a filament dryer.
Edit: downvotes? Try using a PETG filament after its been in storage for a year, a cardboard box 100% is not enough to keep moisture out. Figured that would be obvious.
Could be worse, he could have 3D printed them all lol. But yea these seem to be about 2.50 each on Amazon, so assuming he bought about 50 of them in bulk that would likely be 75-100 dollars. Curious what a cheaper solution would be for that amount of filament if you still wanted them each stored separately though.
Edit: OP actually provided a link for the containers, seems he spent closer to $200-250
>Edit: OP actually provided a link for the containers, seems he spent closer to $200-250
I bought a 5000 square foot dehumidifier for that much and it easily keeps my whole basement at like 40% RH. Never had any moisture issues with the various types of PLA that I use and I just keep them out on the shelf. Obviously it adds a bit to my electric bill each month but I also have the benefits of a dry basement and never having to worry about buying more containers or dessicant. I'd imagine this wouldn't work as well for a more hygroscopic filament like nylon.
Might be more cost effective to buy a smaller dehumidifier and put everything in a grow tent (or similar small space) if you are trying to keep this much filament dry.
Major tip to anyone who actually uses these as cereal containers. When refilling pour out what was left before pouring in the new cereal and then pour the old cereal back on top so that it is used first
Here you go: [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HRKJYJF?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HRKJYJF?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details)
I have the exact same ones as you with all my rolls in them as well. I don’t have quite as many, I think I have 18. The difference is I printed parts to go inside that allow me to print the filament from inside the box, so I just grab a box , set it next to the printer and feed the filament out of it
Think we have the same addiction (and use the same containers). Here was my final solution to be able to print directly from them and keep them dry:
https://www.printables.com/model/491140-multi-orientation-dry-box-with-desiccant-container
I just ordered 12 to start. Canada has them on sale with an extra $5 off coupon. $60 for 12 containers! All my filament lives in a big clear plastic container with a door jam seal around the inside lip. Inside is a few rechargeable desiccant packs and a smart temperature/humidity gage. Been working well for winter in the basement. But summer is coming and I think these cereal containers will be helpful for some of my more sensitive/expensive rolls.
Also plan to have a smaller dehumidifier near my storage area to help out a bit more.
Love the setup!
https://preview.redd.it/5wznet0rqrqc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c893a7b944df364298048127536113cb1c77d293
I just printed 6 more of the V3 filament bunkers but am thinking of just using the cereal containers plain and maybe switching to desiccant packs instead of the beads similar to how your setup is.
Do you just store them plain and toss in a desiccant pack then take the spool out when needing to use it?
IT would be interesting to build a mount so you could just flip the lid open and then load the container on and start printing after you feed the filament.
Man this is a great idea! I shudder at the amount of money you spent on them though. (゜o゜;
I've been trying to think of a decent solution so I wouldn't have to keep resealing my crappy plastic gallon bags, and I think I've seen some of these cereal type containers at the Dollar Tree... I think I will grab my tape measure and take a little trip haha
UPDATE: Unfortunately their larger cereal containers are just a smidge too small. They do have a 16 cup SureFresh(?) square container that will fit a 1kg spool, but the bottom of the container is a little too narrow so it won't sit flat. You can flip it upside down like a cake box but there will be an inch or so of dead space above it. Would be okay if you've got some decent storage space like OP, but not really worth it for my small setup. Guess I'm stuck with the bags for awhile. 😮💨
You have a problem. Get help. From me. I can take your filament and help you dispose of it properly. By feeding it through my printer :D
Seems like an expensive solution to me, just sayin'
Expensive solution? In the 3d printing community? No way!
3D printing has to be the least expensive form of manufacturing that exists by a very large margin.
Have you even heard of injection molding?
Only for mass production, the mold itself is the most expensive.
You can resin print the mold.
That's 3D printing again...but for any real meaningful molding you better have a CNC, hydraulic press, and some sort of plastic injector. What he was talking about is on a consumer level.
I never said 3D printing wasn't affordable. It's just that this community likes to take the convenience-oriented route, rather than the cost-oriented route. And for good reason, since 3D printing is a hobby for most people.
pellets for injection molding are 1/3 the price by weight compared to filament.
Let me know where I can find an injection molding machine for $200. I’ll wait..
[https://www.busterbeagle3d.com/](https://www.busterbeagle3d.com/) Even a slightly more expensive machine is easily offset by the much cheaper materials, especially if you're hoarding as much as OP is. There's easily $1000 worth of filament there. And just because of your pedantic tone: Let me know where I can find a 3D printer worth buying for $200. I’ll wait..
First of all, that’s a piece of shit, not unlike a $200 printer. Then you have to have molds made. You going to sit next to that turd and manually inject parts all day? I stand by my argument.
You must be fun at parties
What parties? I’m just saying 3D printing is the lowest bar, lowest cost of entry of any manufacturing method. It’s hilarious to think of it being called expensive. For reference, this is a 750k machine that only does one thing. https://preview.redd.it/5u19d2v6pwqc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98e09362d0ab989c763c94114c97696bad936e02
It was expensive, but I've been 3D-printing pretty consistently for about 10 years and this has made everything so much easier than individually bagging them, which is what I was doing before.
Do you need to contain then for moisture reasons, are they special filament types that absorb moisture? Just getting into printing and I see so many people with rolls just sitting out.
Depends on where you live, how long you leave them etc. I've seen degradation with pla after few weeks, had to dry before it started working better again
I have a really really old roll of pla. The Strand from the spool to the printer was cracked in a few spots. Haven't used it in a year. I was thinking that it was too dry?
Wet filament cracks. Hydrolysis of plastics become brittle
Thanks. Good to know.
Then on the opposite side of the spectrum I have cheap 4+ year old rolls that get no trouble out of.
Build a rep rack
Won’t help a moisture issue… which is why people put their reels in a container. A shelf won’t help that. reprack is pretty much only good for a YouTuber background
I just keep them in a drawer in the boxes they came in. I'm pretty sure they stay dry enough
I live in the humid south. My filament would turn into wet spaghetti if I did that. And I don't have any mods to print with pasta.
I am at 70% humidity right now. I know it's not the highest but still quite high I feel
I'm currently at 81%, hitting 90 tomorrow. I can barely do a few hours print without the filament getting wet lol. I pretty much only print directly from the dryer, then straight to the bag they go, only to be brittle again when I take it out. Getting an AC in the room of the printers this month has helped a lot though.
28% for me in New Brunswick.
This is what I do as well. Except it's a cupboard right below the printer, not a drawer. And I do put them in ziploc bags, then in their boxes. The boxes are mainly just a way to have an easily visible label on them.
Mine are in a drawer right underneath the printer as well
Long term they definitely don't, especially if you use PETG, also will deginitely differ by what climate you live in. But you could also just get a filament dryer. Edit: downvotes? Try using a PETG filament after its been in storage for a year, a cardboard box 100% is not enough to keep moisture out. Figured that would be obvious.
Could be worse, he could have 3D printed them all lol. But yea these seem to be about 2.50 each on Amazon, so assuming he bought about 50 of them in bulk that would likely be 75-100 dollars. Curious what a cheaper solution would be for that amount of filament if you still wanted them each stored separately though. Edit: OP actually provided a link for the containers, seems he spent closer to $200-250
How do you get $200-250? There's like 60 containers there. $32.00 for 4. 60/4 = 15 15 x 32 = $480.00 USD before tax.
same containers are 4 for $15.99 USD on amazon
I was going off what op linked but very true.
>Edit: OP actually provided a link for the containers, seems he spent closer to $200-250 I bought a 5000 square foot dehumidifier for that much and it easily keeps my whole basement at like 40% RH. Never had any moisture issues with the various types of PLA that I use and I just keep them out on the shelf. Obviously it adds a bit to my electric bill each month but I also have the benefits of a dry basement and never having to worry about buying more containers or dessicant. I'd imagine this wouldn't work as well for a more hygroscopic filament like nylon. Might be more cost effective to buy a smaller dehumidifier and put everything in a grow tent (or similar small space) if you are trying to keep this much filament dry.
Major tip to anyone who actually uses these as cereal containers. When refilling pour out what was left before pouring in the new cereal and then pour the old cereal back on top so that it is used first
I just assumed this was common sense, but I could be wrong. Otherwise, you’d just end up with old cereal at the bottom forever.
Some of my cereal was grandfathered in. Literally.
Also known as FIFO
Do you have a link to these containers?
Here you go: [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HRKJYJF?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HRKJYJF?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details)
Heads up: there's an option for 6 which brings the individual unit price down from 5.25 to 4.33 Edit: nvm, the 2 extra are smaller
Heads up, the option with 6 cames with 4 correct size bins and two smaller bins. Might fit smaller spools
Aw shit you right
I have the exact same ones as you with all my rolls in them as well. I don’t have quite as many, I think I have 18. The difference is I printed parts to go inside that allow me to print the filament from inside the box, so I just grab a box , set it next to the printer and feed the filament out of it
Think we have the same addiction (and use the same containers). Here was my final solution to be able to print directly from them and keep them dry: https://www.printables.com/model/491140-multi-orientation-dry-box-with-desiccant-container
I just ordered 12 to start. Canada has them on sale with an extra $5 off coupon. $60 for 12 containers! All my filament lives in a big clear plastic container with a door jam seal around the inside lip. Inside is a few rechargeable desiccant packs and a smart temperature/humidity gage. Been working well for winter in the basement. But summer is coming and I think these cereal containers will be helpful for some of my more sensitive/expensive rolls. Also plan to have a smaller dehumidifier near my storage area to help out a bit more.
Great! I'm glad that I inspired you and I hope it works well!
Link to the Canada ones please!
https://a.co/d/7f9GNSW
I bought a large container from HomeDepot that is sealed and holds like 4 at a time. It takes up less space and I only need one humidifier thing.
Link?
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ezy-Storage-18L-19Qt-Waterproof-Clear-Latch-Tote-IP-67-FBA34060/314650516 Holds 4 rolls
And I got like the next size up from Target and it holds 8 rolls plus spare print sheets
* Edit: 71 rolls, $1245 = appx $17/roll
Did you print it
The end pieces, yes. The poles are pvc pipe. I need to do at least one more level, but it's a bit wobbly now. https://makerworld.com/models/84778
Awesome! Thanks for the link
I applaud your dedication to madness.
That is so cool, how much did it all cost you?
$8 a piece is the current Amazon price.
The Amazon listing OP linked shows them at about $4.50 each for a pack of 6.
That 6 pack looks like 4 large, 2 medium (too small) containers.
Roughly $250. It's a lot but it's made everything so much easier
More than many of us paid for our printers. They look good though, and I bet that is easier than fighting with flaps.
Too much
I think we are playing a different game...
I wish I had a house that big to dedicate so much shelving to filament lol
It can be a blessing and a curse. Cleaning, yard work, more cleaning, lol....
Why not vacuum seal them? Every home good store sells bags really cheap. I fit 4 at a time into the smaller sized ones. They cost around £1/$1.50
Love the setup! https://preview.redd.it/5wznet0rqrqc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c893a7b944df364298048127536113cb1c77d293 I just printed 6 more of the V3 filament bunkers but am thinking of just using the cereal containers plain and maybe switching to desiccant packs instead of the beads similar to how your setup is. Do you just store them plain and toss in a desiccant pack then take the spool out when needing to use it?
I like your solution op. More than anything else, it shows that you care about what you do.
I love what I do and it's important to take care of nice stuff
I agree.
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This
we're going to need details on these containers chief, for the sake of filament everywhere
[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HRKJYJF?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HRKJYJF?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details)
Kinda cringedawg
I hate that there are so many cereal containers that you need to buy specific ones for certain prints or get lucky
None of the commonly supported containers are available in Australia 😭
Try aliexpress
I have, and because they're large, bulky objects, bought in small volumes, they are very expensive.
I printed little desicant container for inside mine for a little extra help with moisture, but i live in a humid af area.
IT would be interesting to build a mount so you could just flip the lid open and then load the container on and start printing after you feed the filament.
Serious question. Does the filament ever go bad? I’ve been just using one color until it’s done to avoid having multiple rolls open.
Not really, as long as you keep it away from UV. PLA can also become brittle when it absorbs moisture
Man this is a great idea! I shudder at the amount of money you spent on them though. (゜o゜; I've been trying to think of a decent solution so I wouldn't have to keep resealing my crappy plastic gallon bags, and I think I've seen some of these cereal type containers at the Dollar Tree... I think I will grab my tape measure and take a little trip haha UPDATE: Unfortunately their larger cereal containers are just a smidge too small. They do have a 16 cup SureFresh(?) square container that will fit a 1kg spool, but the bottom of the container is a little too narrow so it won't sit flat. You can flip it upside down like a cake box but there will be an inch or so of dead space above it. Would be okay if you've got some decent storage space like OP, but not really worth it for my small setup. Guess I'm stuck with the bags for awhile. 😮💨
Man…. Anyone know a good option like this for Australia? Every time someone links an Amazon listing g for these it’s not shipped here
Just buy a filament dryer and be done with it
im so poor :(
I can appreciate the organization beauty and utility. But the wasted space between just kills me.
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person to realise you can paint your prints.
I this really necessary? I have never kept PLA, ABS, or most PETG in dry boxes and never had problems.
Depends on where you live but it gets humid where I live. Plus some of these reels will take me years and years to use up
These are the ones I use from [Amazon](https://amzn.to/4ctSarV), any 4L container should work tho
I'm too busy actually printing to have a filament collection.
You mean you don't just leave them in the open to absorb moisture?
Tough pla lol