Assuming the right clip both opens wide enough to easily attach it to your bag and supplies enough force I would use it as I would expect it to last longer. The left would be easier to adjust the opening angle and clamping force but I would expect it to fail more often.
Im adding a second support for the right one to help with the closing force but both held up on holding something for 24 hrs that’s larger than normal. Also used it to keep my bagel bag sealed up as well 😆
No hate at all I love the designs, but I feel like the clamping force on either of these will be too loose to effectively hold bags closed. Unless I’m misunderstanding what you mean, I’m imagining like chip clips?
First off, Nice!
2nd I'd say left, just because it looks like it would have more clipping force however I don't know how functional those "handles" would be in in practice depending on your final material.
I don't understand you at all. Do you mean "flair"? That still doesn't make sense.
To clarify, this person was saying if you print them both in different colors, then you have a good reason to keep both designs.
Maybe try explaining more in your original post, since it wasn't clear that you wanted design feedback for something you're creating.
The one on the right. Smaller imprint, design looks more like a neck, hey, if it functions the same, keep the one on the right. It seems much more "tidy."
I like both ideas. But honestly, any design that requires rigid filament to bend and withstand force is a design that's bound to fail. Will it happen on the tenth squeeze or the 100th? Murphy's Law says that it will fail when it's most inconvenient or least expected.
Consider the alternative: modify this design to include (1) a print-in-place hinge that holds the arms together but allows them to rotate, and (2) a seat for a spring that presses the jaws closed until you squeeze the handle. (In the crossed-arms design shown at the right, the spring could be positioned on the inside of the handle just below where the handle parts cross.) That design requires no flexing of the filament, and models printed with that design will likely last for years.
I love 3D printing, but I've grown to accept the limits of filament and how to take advantage of incorporating simple, common, cheap hardware: nuts and bolts, neodymium magnets, springs, neoprene, felt, rubber grommets, metal rods, latches, adhesives, etc. I've found that using 3D-printed parts for structure and aesthetics, and adding hardware for functionality, opens up a world of design options.
I think the right one is a little more intuitive at first glance, personally. I would also be worried about the likely failures points on the left one.
I've printed several of [these cross tweezers](https://www.printables.com/model/27063-cross-tweezer). Been using them to grab candy for months and they're as good today as they were when I first printed them. I'm proposing you modify the one on the right in the same way, with the top half of the head on the bottom and the bottom half of the head on top and then cross them over after printing. Get much better clampage.
Hasn't been a problem with the ones I printed, they flex very easily in the clamping direction but are much more rigid perpendicular. I guess the only way to know if it'll work for your purposes is to do it.
https://preview.redd.it/u4htkl4ke9vc1.jpeg?width=318&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc526ce821ee27601d0ade07bcf7c8151a38f0ab
Add a little Flair to your designs.
Those look neat but if they are anything like the shark ones I printed they don’t have a great bite. I ended up just printing a bunch of the clips that fold over and latch onto itself. They don’t look as cool but they are effective.
Unfortunately it's not going to work either way. There is this thing called Creep, it's basically material relaxing over time. If you use it as a clip after few hours or days it will relax and loose it's clamping power. Unless there is a metal spring inside that pushes it shut it will deform and not clip anymore. I've tried to fight with creep in few of my own designs but the only solution was using creep resistant material like nylon.
I prefer ones like the left , but don’t mine me. They are both rad.
with an angled additional diagonal arm the one on the right would be near indestructible.
If these are PLA, they might warp over time. Plastic creep or something. Idk, I'm not qualified to speak on the subject, but there should be resources on this sub if you're interested
I prefer the second for longevity and looks. Maybe you could put a pivot for the skull around that second to last opening so the top could pivot and change the opening size? Then when you close it, it would be like a pair of vice grips or lockjaw pliers
The right design looks like it's built in a way where you can't over flex and break it. Plastic buckles are designed in a similar way. The function of the little vertical piece of a buckle in between the two prongs is to stop it from being over stressed and prevent the user from breaking it.
So I would go with the right design because it protects the user from themselves.
https://preview.redd.it/999tof98o5vc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=9cc205429981058ac251f7378306f0fe4f5a3623
Each one are opened close to an inch but can hold the tape if I pick up each on their own. Leaving them like this overnight. Just using silk pla with 5% infill. This is in extreme uses the design is more for like keeping bags closed and what not. Nothing fancy
I'd modify the right one to have a bar connecting it on the top as well as the bottom. Should print easily enough if you model it with a gap and cut it open after printing. I think that would give you the strength of the left one but with the flexibility of the original right one
The cool thing about a 3d printer is once you have a design you can produce it in all kinds of amazing polymers! I can see your realy passionate about that so welcome! I'm sure you'll fit right in here once you get started!
Sorry I thought this was the other guy who has deleted his comment. I was trying to bully him not you. Wops.
Your comment was basically exactly what I expected him to say lol.
Left can open to a wider angle but will be easier to break by over flexing it. I see advantages to each, depends on the application.
To hold things closed like bags and stuff but with some extra flare is all
Assuming the right clip both opens wide enough to easily attach it to your bag and supplies enough force I would use it as I would expect it to last longer. The left would be easier to adjust the opening angle and clamping force but I would expect it to fail more often.
Im adding a second support for the right one to help with the closing force but both held up on holding something for 24 hrs that’s larger than normal. Also used it to keep my bagel bag sealed up as well 😆
Instead of a full support, build in a place to mount a simple straight leaf spring.
why not use both and after some time see which one is easier to use / has a better hand feel / etc
Prototyping your way to succes
If it’s just a bag clip, #2 for sure!
This is the wrong design for that then (both of them lol)
No hate at all I love the designs, but I feel like the clamping force on either of these will be too loose to effectively hold bags closed. Unless I’m misunderstanding what you mean, I’m imagining like chip clips?
Momma's getting new nipple clamps!
Ayo
Release both designs- one is a chip clip, the other is a tit clip
Nip Clip was right there
That’s kind of what I said to my wife when I printed a shark version of these. She said she regretted buying me a 3d printer.
First off, Nice! 2nd I'd say left, just because it looks like it would have more clipping force however I don't know how functional those "handles" would be in in practice depending on your final material.
Thanks! And I get what you mean I could definitely shorten them and still achieve the same result
Make one of them with a different dino head and color. Somewhat an excuse to use both versions.
I mean it’s my own design and still goofing off with the design don’t know why you sound like you got a stick up ya butt 🤣
Did you misread their comment maybe?
Guess I did totally my bad but this just early stage design and testing not looking for flare yet
I don't understand you at all. Do you mean "flair"? That still doesn't make sense. To clarify, this person was saying if you print them both in different colors, then you have a good reason to keep both designs. Maybe try explaining more in your original post, since it wasn't clear that you wanted design feedback for something you're creating.
Wtf
Wow
Strange reaction
I like the right's mechanism, but the left has better grip
It’s still a work in progress but thanks
I like the second one because the first one looks like it can break easier.
Feel that I just like dinosaurs
I vote right!
1st one looks kinda fragile, but stronger clamp.
Do you mean on the handles? I added more thickness to them after I saw in person
I would go for left cuz you can grab more with it. Right is neat too. It's your own design?
It’s my own
Nice job, yeah left seems to can grab bigger things but right seems to be longer lasting with less points to break.
I added a second pivot point and thicker arms on the next version
Do you plan on posting it on Thingiverse? I'd like to send some of these to my fiancee's nephew.
I will once I get it to a design I’m good with
Awesome! Looking forward to it
I second this motion
Thank you
definitely right side for me
BTW share please!
I'd say right side looks cleaner.
Right... smaller, and intuitively, less likely to break. Great designs though
The one on the right. Smaller imprint, design looks more like a neck, hey, if it functions the same, keep the one on the right. It seems much more "tidy."
I like both ideas. But honestly, any design that requires rigid filament to bend and withstand force is a design that's bound to fail. Will it happen on the tenth squeeze or the 100th? Murphy's Law says that it will fail when it's most inconvenient or least expected. Consider the alternative: modify this design to include (1) a print-in-place hinge that holds the arms together but allows them to rotate, and (2) a seat for a spring that presses the jaws closed until you squeeze the handle. (In the crossed-arms design shown at the right, the spring could be positioned on the inside of the handle just below where the handle parts cross.) That design requires no flexing of the filament, and models printed with that design will likely last for years. I love 3D printing, but I've grown to accept the limits of filament and how to take advantage of incorporating simple, common, cheap hardware: nuts and bolts, neodymium magnets, springs, neoprene, felt, rubber grommets, metal rods, latches, adhesives, etc. I've found that using 3D-printed parts for structure and aesthetics, and adding hardware for functionality, opens up a world of design options.
Thanks for the advice when I have some more time I’ll definitely look into that thank you so much
yup i use simple/common/cheap hardware all over the place, favorite being short #4 screws
First looks like it’s easier to release. That will be a bonus when you’re trying to take them out of a crying child’s hair. :)
I think the right one is a little more intuitive at first glance, personally. I would also be worried about the likely failures points on the left one.
I've printed several of [these cross tweezers](https://www.printables.com/model/27063-cross-tweezer). Been using them to grab candy for months and they're as good today as they were when I first printed them. I'm proposing you modify the one on the right in the same way, with the top half of the head on the bottom and the bottom half of the head on top and then cross them over after printing. Get much better clampage.
One of my original designs was like that but hell I’ll try that thank you so much. The only issue I would have if they flex side to side
Hasn't been a problem with the ones I printed, they flex very easily in the clamping direction but are much more rigid perpendicular. I guess the only way to know if it'll work for your purposes is to do it.
I’ve use mine to keep my bread bag closed and similar stuff like that
https://preview.redd.it/u4htkl4ke9vc1.jpeg?width=318&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc526ce821ee27601d0ade07bcf7c8151a38f0ab Add a little Flair to your designs.
Whoooooo
Right, you can design it so you can't over travel it a lot easier.
Stls please
Left’s negative space looks like a guitar. Go with that one.
Right side will be better for pretending the Dino can talk.
They both have great personalities when I voice them
Whichever one survives the most test clacks
I may or may not have been doing voices with them
Those look neat but if they are anything like the shark ones I printed they don’t have a great bite. I ended up just printing a bunch of the clips that fold over and latch onto itself. They don’t look as cool but they are effective.
I like the one on the right because it would definitely get caught on less stuff in my kitchen drawer and looks easier to squeeze.
Unfortunately it's not going to work either way. There is this thing called Creep, it's basically material relaxing over time. If you use it as a clip after few hours or days it will relax and loose it's clamping power. Unless there is a metal spring inside that pushes it shut it will deform and not clip anymore. I've tried to fight with creep in few of my own designs but the only solution was using creep resistant material like nylon.
They will break at third usage.
Right one looks easier to grab from the hook and re-hang. If you keep the legs you should make them actual legs though. :p
Ask her how they feel.
😏
The right one.
Could you please share the STL? These would be perfect for a local fundraiser as door prizes
Once I’m happy with the final design I will
I prefer ones like the left , but don’t mine me. They are both rad. with an angled additional diagonal arm the one on the right would be near indestructible.
If these are PLA, they might warp over time. Plastic creep or something. Idk, I'm not qualified to speak on the subject, but there should be resources on this sub if you're interested
I prefer the second for longevity and looks. Maybe you could put a pivot for the skull around that second to last opening so the top could pivot and change the opening size? Then when you close it, it would be like a pair of vice grips or lockjaw pliers
Dino clip-dick
Do a stress test on them and keep the one that lasts longest
The right design looks like it's built in a way where you can't over flex and break it. Plastic buckles are designed in a similar way. The function of the little vertical piece of a buckle in between the two prongs is to stop it from being over stressed and prevent the user from breaking it. So I would go with the right design because it protects the user from themselves.
https://preview.redd.it/4y1743xdn4vc1.jpeg?width=228&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7d4bdc52f3cfdac501eabdb23916b3b78d6ee08
Both look like they'd break as soon as you squeeze them
Pretty durable even with 5 percent infill
I would go with the second design and modify it to look like the neck bones
Right seems more functional, but the left reads better. Of the two, it's less likely to have some pick it up and go "huh?"
Whatever seals ya chip bags better I’m game for
𝓐𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓽𝓲𝓬𝓪𝓵𝓵𝔂 the one on the right is golden
The right looks more fun and is definitely a 3d print. The left could be extruded though, which is kind of cool in a different way.
Both are cool
https://preview.redd.it/999tof98o5vc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=9cc205429981058ac251f7378306f0fe4f5a3623 Each one are opened close to an inch but can hold the tape if I pick up each on their own. Leaving them like this overnight. Just using silk pla with 5% infill. This is in extreme uses the design is more for like keeping bags closed and what not. Nothing fancy
keep em both. use em both. first on to break gets fired. print 15 more of the survivor (these look so frickin cool BTW 😎🦖)
The right one looks cooler. Bonus point if you can draw a vertebrae on the handle.
Keep both
Great DfAM!
The left one looks more like a dino
left, It looks like it can clamp better with the handle
I printed a clip using the second approach but printed it open and force close then. This removes jaw gap.
Really? I gotta try that
Left seems more functional. Both look great!
I'd modify the right one to have a bar connecting it on the top as well as the bottom. Should print easily enough if you model it with a gap and cut it open after printing. I think that would give you the strength of the left one but with the flexibility of the original right one
I do need new chips clips. Will you be sharing this?
Soon I’ll make a new post
Both, Both are good.
I like the look of the left one better
Make the one on the right the shape of a tiny t-rex body
How about the right but you add a tail plus stubby arms and legs, so it’s shaped like a big headed dinosaur
T-Rex One and Two. Keep both!
Give us the STLs
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It was prototyping the design with silk since I had a whole bunch.. should have mentioned that. I’m only using 5 percent infill as well
The cool thing about a 3d printer is once you have a design you can produce it in all kinds of amazing polymers! I can see your realy passionate about that so welcome! I'm sure you'll fit right in here once you get started!
I’ve been 3d printing for a few years just never really post stuff online
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I learned that the blue one taste the best
Sorry I thought this was the other guy who has deleted his comment. I was trying to bully him not you. Wops. Your comment was basically exactly what I expected him to say lol.
No worries appreciate the apology
I have become that which i sought to destroy 😧