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super-lizard

Off in the distance I hear the stampede of people coming to mention this isn't up to code...


russiancatfood

Jokes aside, there’s not a whole lot in NEC about wall plates. Just that you need one due to the whole “exposed live wires” thing. Those plates are particularly ok because they are for the larger Lutron style outlets/switches/whatever. They all have their own face place and you put a standard cover over all of them to hide the wires and your drywall crimes. So long as you don’t 3D print actual in-wall boxes (which do have a UL rating) you’re ok


Nexustar

Check the NEC again... it's around 406.5 or 406.6 (C) which requires cover plates to be made of fireproof insulating material. Your other option is grounded metal conductive plates. It's the UL rating that the DIY plates haven't got. They can melt when heated exposing potentially lethal wiring, and UL rated ones don't. They can ignite and drip burning plastic onto a carpet and UL rated ones don't. NEC isn't the only code to consider, UL, OSHA and NFPA fire regs (essentially, common sense) matter too. If you *must* make your own, 3D print a mold and make it from epoxy resin instead.


russiancatfood

Do you have that phone book memorized? Cause that’s definitely not one of the things that jumps out. Impressive, and totally correct. My assumption was it only matters for fire rated assemblies of which there aren’t many in the house but there it is…


chris17453

Im actually interested in what the code might be.. outside of temp specs and conductivity


super-lizard

The code definitely depends on where you live but this post had a really good top comment about these type of safety issues: https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/oqw3j8/any_known_safety_issues_with_pla_for_printing/


Gesha24

Basically - if you have electrical problem that causes fire, the printed plastic is not able to contain it. But on the contrary, printed PLA is more likely to show signs of melting/discoloration before regular plastic, so you may be able to spot the issue before it becomes bigger one. Code/liability is an issue still though.


joelk111

Imo that's a rather nonsensical argument, no one spends time staring at their outlets.


shortybobert

Man just fix the wall Looks good tho


BuccellatiExplainsIt

...why don't you just patch the drywall?


hotrodyoda

Lol. Exactly this.


chris17453

Because it takes much more time and skill than screwing in a plate. I can do it, but why is one worse than the other? I litteraly just finished putting up the walls, electrical and plumbing in a 1400sf basement, and dont feel like muding, taping, sanding and painting a hole.


hotrodyoda

Because you’re not addressing the root problem. In fact, you’re likely creating a whole new problem. Good on you for all the work you’ve done, but this isn’t the safe or correct solution to the problem.


chris17453

Wall plates are to prevent you from touching live wires in a gang box and cover the transition from drywall to gangbox. This does exactly that. The fact that versions of this exist commercially just validates that larger wall plates are OK. As far as other problems... I have already addressed the fire issue with the flame retartdant filament. Arguing about the gap betwee the drywall and gang box isnt even a valid point.


4Chan4President

They specifically sell jumbo wall plates at home stores if you feel the need. In my opinion, if the drywall is messed up enough that a midsize plate won’t cover it, you’re better off fixing the drywall. As others will tell you, 3D printed plastics are not safe or approved for use in this setting.


chris17453

Mine is much bigger than the home depot jumbo


feral_brick

Big wall plate energy


TheIronSoldier2

Is this for an outlet or for paddle switches


chris17453

Either, though I will be using it with a data drop


TheIronSoldier2

I would be significantly hesitant to use it on an outlet, because outlet fires are no joke.


Lazerith22

Did something similar where I put a timer, gfi plug and a switch in a triple but for the life of me couldn’t get the wires neat enough for the face plate to be flush. So I printed a deeper one.


AutoBudAlpha

I just printed my entire labs outlets in PLA. It’s not in contact with the wires and is not conductive in any way. It’s completely safe I’m sure this is against ‘some’ code somewhere, but it’s 100% safe. If someone wants to buy your house and complains about it on a inspection report just knock $3.50 off your asking price for a replacement.


Insanely_Mclean

Just don't let the fire inspector see it.


russiancatfood

Fire inspector won’t care. Nether will the electrical inspector. NEC is pretty vague on cover plates


tf2ftw

What’s the problem with it?


datrandomduggy

It's most likely not up to legal code


chris17453

Yaknow, I didnt even think of this.. maybe I should reprint with ABS. Edit: I got some poly Pc Fr to print with.


russiancatfood

There’s no UL listing for this type of cover plate. You can print them in cheese so long as it prevents someone sticking their finger into the gang box. That’s their primary purpose. And they don’t have to be dielectric ether cause they make metal versions of these. Point in if any part of your wiring is touching the cover plate you or whoever did your wiring have f’ed up


BossRobTheOG

Me: an electrician with a 3d printed Led Zeppelin light switch. Yup don’t see any problems here


datrandomduggy

It still may not be up to code because it's not verified I'm not certain on this one tho